How does one start working as a Maritime security operative?

How does one start working as a Maritime security operative? Is it possible to get into this field without prior military experience?

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >how do I get into a field without any relevant experience or connections
    You should check your local classifieds for job postings, or visit a nearby job tree where jobs fall out of the sky

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    you could be police, then do cruise ship security, then edge in that way maybe

    but really the fact is governments are great paid welfare/education facilities that teach things you don't learn anywhere else, if you don't take advantage of it that's on you

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it possible to get into this field without prior military experience?
    If you're going to pay some guy to sit on a boat and guard your shit, would you want someone without prior military experience? What if he was competing for a position against applicants who did have prior military experience?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      shit take, most people in the military that apply for this job have a IQ of 80, any police officer with half a brain (like not joining the military) has a decent chance.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        So what guarantees you're not that moron only worse without the military experience. Why would they want a larper who has more YouTube viewing time than range time?

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    There are some european private schools that teach courses of basic infantry, security, CQB, etc to normal citizens. Quality stuff. Most of these are located in Poland. These private schools have lots of contacts with firms that require private security around the globe.

    It's possible, if you're willing to spend a few grand.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is it feasible to find a job with only those courses as qualification? Does being fluent in more than one language a differential or is it just english that you need? Ive seen some stuff about ukrainian companies on this field, not sure how its going on rn with the war tho

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You'd need a LOT of training to even be considered.
        They're not going to see you taking a weekend course as a qualification.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        An ounce of experience is worth a pound of training

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It would be better to join the Coast Guard or National Guard.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Im not american tho, so thats not really an option

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >coast guard
          Enjoy your 3+ year waitlist

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah I wanted to be an MSRT but I shit you not the waiting list was over a year. Now I'm in the air force and I should've just waited

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              I didn't know that the Village People had updated their look. How interesting.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Last I heard, the Maritime Enforcement billet wait was >1yr.
            Botswain's Mate and Gunner's mate are shorter wait times, and you can still be a boarding team member.

            I also heard that if you volunteer for Bahrain you basically go straight into training.

            I've been thinking about joining the CG since it pays the same as my shit retail job and looks a lot better on a resume.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Correction: <1yr

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Bosuns do more watch and guarding than anybody else lol, "good news bro, ur taking my watch tonight!"

              T..thanks.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      never pay for any training for a PSC career. Ever.

      The field is oversaturated with SOCOM guys, let alone grunts, and any required training would be provided by the contract.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Interesting point you've got there. At first I had that feeling that it might be just a course with a vague promise with the sole purpose of money grabing

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          these "schools" have no accreditation so to speak. The only people who would take such things are weird contracts that pay nothing and hire third worlders that are supervised by people with actual experience. You dont want to work for these companies because they routinely have issues paying you or constantly lose contracts due to compliance issues.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Interesting point you've got there. At first I had that feeling that it might be just a course with a vague promise with the sole purpose of money grabing

            If we're talking about actual skills then yeah. In Private Security in general, I also would agree. But for maritime security specifically, there's some demand for personnel and at least the STCW certification is mandatory. So, overall, if you "don't pay for these schools" then you don't get a job. Even if you're a former navy seal operator (lmao) you need those certifications.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              theyve boiled down STCW classes into a 2 week program in most places. prices vary, and youll also need to get your MMC which takes the coast guard for fricking ever to complete

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Correct me if im wrong, wouldnt those specops with a high level of specialization and training be in jobs more complex? LIke the regular PMC stuff or some security of VIPs and etc. Because for what ive seen and other anons have said in this thread, the MSO job is not really complex and specialized.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Probably, yeah, I'm just saying that even they would need to be certified.
                Usually teams are 4 to 8 people and there's a team leader who is almost exclusively ex military, usually some kind of special forces. Those can make good money (about 3k€ per month, fixed rate regardless of voyages) but they also have various organizational responsibilities even when not aboard.

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it possible to get into this field without prior military experience?
    Yes but you'll need a ton of Armed Security experience

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i hate boats

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      So do people on ships.

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >without prior military experience?
    Probably not. You're going to need connections to get a job if you have no real experience.

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous
  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it possible to get into this field without prior military experience?
    lol
    Black person I know former SF making bank guarding tankers in the Persian Gulf, that's the level of competition you're up against

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's not necessary but it's extremely valued. That said I don't know anyone working without actual military experience.

      Pay is about 200€ a day so I doubt the "making bank" part. You also rarely get to work every day of the month.

      t. actual knower.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Considering that I live in a shithole with a shit currency this is actually a small fortune throughout an year. When you say they are not working everyday of the month, is it at least some regular income that you can count on, like expecting x amount of travels in a year? Could it be that the reason there a not people without military experience in this field the fact that they are simply not attracted or dont even know about it? Is there any other valuable info that you could share anon?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yeah, okay, even by my standards 200€/day is not a small amount of money. It's just not crazy amounts of money.

          >When you say they are not working everyday of the month
          Ships don't have security personnel onboard at all times, only when sailing through dangerous waters. Depending on the company contracts it can be reliable, yes, but the living conditions aboard and the nature of it (you can't have a family/friends/girlfriends and do this for an extended amount of time). This is also the reason why not many people do this.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            oops, forgot a word. Sucks. The living conditions aboard and the nature of it sucks.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            This is exactly why im betting that this would be the "perfect" job for me, cuz I dont have none of the above. My routine without anyone, stuck in a house alone will not be that different from being aboard a ship doing guard shifts. With the plus of a good amount of money, no expenses during said time and being able to shoot some pirate boat now and then.
            Considering the cons of it, would you say that this is a field with a constant rotation of personnel? Making it easier to get into if people are constantly dropping this job.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah people don't do this for too long from what I've seen. Having communal showers with dirty sailors from Bangladesh or the Philippines, pretty bad food, shit living quarters, being away for 3 to 6 months at a time takes a toll on people.
              And while it may seem comparable to serving on a navy ship, it really isn't because other than the money you're not getting a lot of what navies provide.
              If you're European, try some of the Greek maritime security companies.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >European

                Kek. Im brazilian, but Id be able to finance the course and certifications if it had a plausible chance of landing a job. I just dont want to waste the money and end up without the job and with some useless certification and skills that wouldnt be transferable to anything else around here.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Usually the company organizes training/certifications for first timers, at least here (Greece). Not for free, it gets removed from your salary, but it's much easier when they organize everything.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Would you say that this job is like the movie jarhead, where the hardest part is enduring a boring routine with a shitty condition of life and not really the action of it?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah, the majority don't even see action, like ever.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Didnt expect to hear that, but it actually makes a lot of sense. So I guess its not a job so risky afterall.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's just a shit job. But it's not very risky.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                I know a guy who did it and that was his experience, he ended up coming back home and re joined the army again and working up through the ranks. A lot of shitty standing guard, on a shitty ship, looking for some pirates that 99.9% of the time aren't there. But the pirates are around. I suppose he needed a break from the green machine and it was good for that

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        bank enough for people not living in West Europe

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    be gay

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >with flying colors

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      cringe
      we get it, you're a gay, just keep it to yourself

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Is it possible to get into this field without prior military experience?
    no, anyone willing to pay someone with no relevant mil/leo experience to be armed security will be hiring 3rd worlders at commensurate wages

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >3rd worlders
      >Brazilian

      It seems to be a fit then

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Unless you are a SEAL or Force Recon with VBSS experience you will be making around 55k. You still need to be military.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just join the navy?

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