I assume they work like regular reserves, but with more standards in regards to how physically fit they had to be. They are meant to be reserve to fill up any positions that are short handed in terms of army SOF.
you're laboring under the idea that "special forces" means "UBER ELITE UNKILLABLE SUPERMEN" instead of just "gets the shit jobs nobody else wants/jobs we can't trust actual moronic fricking Black folk to do because they are actual moronic fricking Black folk", probably because you yourself are a Black person and anything beyond your comprehension is Literally Superman shit
I believe they go to the same Q course and schools as full timers to earn the same qualification, then go on part time once they have the long tab and get to their unit. Supposedly plenty of oppo to go on deployments/activations in that world.
My brother knew a guy who was one and he said it's basically full time even when they're done with intial training. The only real difference is that they weren't assigned to a particular army base. They had orders to live in some city and would work out and train full time, I guess on land the unit leased or something although they would go to normal military bases to do stuff there as well. They did travel a lot for training.
I wanna say he said they were "stationed" in Austin, TX, but I could be miss remembering. That's where my brother was living at the time so it would make sense. There's also a fair amount of spook stuff in Austin (my brother is a desk jockey type spook).
>They might recruit from former SOF guys
Not really. They work like any other Reserve unit, they train and deploy when called up. If you are in a Reserve SF Group, you can also volunteer to deploy in support of other active duty SF Groups on a TDY basis.
sir, you got the wrong directive, in this place you are supposed to call them trannies and ZOGbots, the nazi line is for left leaning spaces, thanks for the needful
Dont know about the US army, but in the UK the special forces reserve units are pretty much impossible to work around a normal job around them due to the training and deployment expectations. My old boss tried to join the reserve Parachute regiment unit which arent special forces but have a higher standard of training and attendance than most. While he said he was passing everything he needed to do, he couldn't keep up with the time commitment between his normal job and family life.
I knew one guy who was reserve SF and worked as a defense contractor, he was high speed for sure, had a bunch of active tours under his belt with 3rd Group as I recall. Really cool guy, owned his own security business. Super friendly, definitely kind of a psychopath. He told me “you’re going to love war.” When I was graduating AIT and he was in the WOC course. He was moving to the reserves and went intel when he got tired of the life and wanted the maintained TS clearance. He’s still in as a Warrant I think.
From what he said the unit was (this was like 2018) comprised of Iraq/Afghanistan SF vets with a touch of high speed national guard guys, they did deploy.
That's a funny way to say giving up. Only winners cross the finish line
>muh iraq
The iraqis got demolished >muh Afghanistan
Taliban got demolished. Afghanistan specifically wasn't an issue of tactics, but more of an issue to how stable to Afghan republic is. The U.S. withdraw support and it instantly collapsed. With iraq taking a few years and the U.S. was willing to go back tp iraq to prevent the collapse of the iraqi government.
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[...] >muh iraq
The iraqis got demolished >muh Afghanistan
Taliban got demolished. Afghanistan specifically wasn't an issue of tactics, but more of an issue to how stable to Afghan republic is. The U.S. withdraw support and it instantly collapsed. With iraq taking a few years and the U.S. was willing to go back tp iraq to prevent the collapse of the iraqi government.
The Taliban took back Afghanistan - they won. No moving the goal posts will change this. End of story.
Iraq had no WMDs and we failed to install a friendly pro-Western democracy. Our forces were largely unsuccessful in containing the insurgency and we were forced to spend large amounts of money buying off Sunni Tribes and making deals with local Shia leaders to leave without the entire thing falling apart. Today Iran has by far the most influence in Iraq and our misadventure there expanded Tehran's influence in the region.
No amount of "cope" or "seethe" will change those facts.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>The Taliban took back Afghanistan - they won
Against the Afghan government, whose forces were either composed of 70 IQ inbreds or people who wanted to fight but had no ammo or rations because all the money got pocketed by corrupt officials.
Basically the Taliban won against an alternate Russia if oil wasn't profitable. >Iraq had no WMDs
They absolutely fricking did. After they were found the US servicemen who had their lives ruined due to exposure to nerve agent were told to shut the frick up or else Al Qaeda would start an easter egg hunt for them.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Iraq had no WMDs
They did. For some reason morons don't count chemical weapons as WMDs.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>The Taliban took back Afghanistan - they won
Against the Afghan government, whose forces were either composed of 70 IQ inbreds or people who wanted to fight but had no ammo or rations because all the money got pocketed by corrupt officials.
Basically the Taliban won against an alternate Russia if oil wasn't profitable. >Iraq had no WMDs
They absolutely fricking did. After they were found the US servicemen who had their lives ruined due to exposure to nerve agent were told to shut the frick up or else Al Qaeda would start an easter egg hunt for them.
t.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Thay had jack shit. Nothing that justified the lies told about Iraq pretending to attack other countries with WMD or nukes and all that bullshit.
Even the fricking CIA was against it and was effectlively forced to comply by the Neocons (unlike the turdworlders that can't shut up about muh CIA believe)
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Iraq pretending to attack other countries with WMD
They used chemicals weapons on coalition troops over a hundred times. That's why they were wearing chemical protection suits.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Read achilles trap. Saddam got rid of his stuff around gulf war I but intentionally misrepresented his capabilities
1 month ago
Anonymous
>They used chemicals weapons on coalition troops over a hundred times.
I swear GWOT die hard defenders are just like tankies. Just lies and lies to not admit losing face and be exposed as useful idiots and the whole thing being a gigantic failure except in very loose geostrategic terms being very generous.
>In all, American troops secretly reported finding roughly 5,000 chemical warheads, shells or aviation bombs
no wmdz guise
1 month ago
Anonymous
>from "They used chemicals weapons on coalition troops over a hundred times." to "they found useless chemical bombs left over gassing the kurds"
I accept your concession. There was nothing relevant to justify the made up hysteria in the US and the UK about Iraq going to gas western countries or Saudi Arabia.
It's time to let it go: You were duped if you believed the neocons and everybody knew it at the time, they just didn't gave a frick.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Not him, but many american troops suffered from injuries related to chemical attacks.
Are you seriously pretending that a bunch of GIs fricking around and finding out with abandoned chem munitions is the same as being targeted by deliberate chem attacks that NEVER happened?
This is just grasping at straws. Those "WMD" were pathetic left overs more dangerous to iraqis than anybody else, and in no way justified the invasion, which had not even sound geostrategic reasons about oil control, and in the end was more about american hysteria after 9/11 and buttholes wanting to cash in from it.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>moving goal post >they did have WMDS >T-those were just old munitions
You're moving goal post here. Another note: why the frick did iraq have chemical weapons despite supposedly destroying them under "UN" supervision? Seems like saddam was planning to use them later on just like he did a few years prior on the kurds. He didn't have a WMD program, which was main issue rather than him actually having the weapon itself. You're believing media bullshit from that time.
1 month ago
Anonymous
The bullshit came from the "media" that parrot the claim that they never had WMDs and taking certain context to fit whatever narrative they are trying to portray. Specifically a Anti war narrative. I forgot where it originally came from, but i remember it parroted by the media without much research.
>in some ways
In Iraq's case, they weren't supposed to have WMDs in the first place. They supposedly had their "stockpile" destroyed under un supervision.
Iraq never had Weapons of Mass Destruction that could really threaten its neighbours nevermind Europe or the UK like the propaganda of the era tried to peddle. That's a fact, and the "ackshually they had a few rotting gas bombs and artillery shells" is just cope and butthurt for being the neocon's useful idiots.
It's time to let it go.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>that could threaten
My Black person, ISIS literally found stockpiles and rained hell on a big region of the middle east. Iraq never had a program, but they did had a sizable WMDs that they were supposed to dispose, not stockpile/hiding from UN oversight.
1 month ago
Anonymous
We used to have Iran-Iraq war threads on /k/ and the pictures of the chemical attack victims were gruesome.
>rotting gas bombs and artillery
Lets ignore those weapons still had an effect on people despite being old, moron.
You keep trying to dodge the central point of those "WMD"s in no way being enough to justify the invasion (not to mention the long list of thirdie countries which also had and have those). Specially since both the US and the UK had no idea about it and instead made up a bunch of bullshit about nukes and nervous gas to stir up voters, even forcing their own intelligence agencies to comply and follow the narrative they wanted. Because nobody would have supported it otherwise just because a few left overs from the Iran-Iraq war.
Still talking unironically about WMDs twenty years after the invasion is fricking moronic. No, the GIs that got poisoned do not count. You got duped, deal with it and move on.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>yeah they had WMDs >but you guys actually didn't know about it >and you uhh got duped because they didn't have the WMDs they had because you didn't know about it and you forced your intelligence to believe they did
1 month ago
Anonymous
>central point >[...] >iraq had no WMDs.
>buck broken by neocon propaganda
I'm old enough to remember that "WMD" became a propaganda term because NBQ sounded too nerdy and technical.Countries with chem weapons are a dime a dozen, but Iraq got singled out for different reasons that went back to the 90s and oil trade.
It's also noticeable how the bullshit about Iraq supporting "islamofascist" terrorists was memoryholed after the war.
1 month ago
Anonymous
The media back then hopped on the "no WMD story" despite that not even being true. Aside from that, saddam was suspicious of helping out terrorists, which made the U.S. paranoid after what happened in 9/11.
1 month ago
Anonymous
All the islamic terrorist groups also fricking hated Saddam, even with him larping as a fedayeen just before the invasion. Nobody but morons bought it, and that's the reason Bush had to create a "Coalion of the Willing" with only the UK and z-tier countries after the rest of NATO told him to frick off (another fact usually memoryholed by tankies)
1 month ago
Anonymous
>hated saddam
Not all of them. Some of them were hand to hand with saddam in terms of fundings and what not. Especially in the 2000s when saddam wanted to get back at the U.S.. aside from that, the most notable one that didn't do the invasion is German and france. Which saddam had contacts with before and was confident in the germans/french not letting America do the invasion. Overall, the prelude of the invasion of iraq was riddled with moronation, especially from germany, france and iraq. If iraq wasn't playing footies with the UN, the U.S. wouldn't have had much justifications. They were also moronic in trusting the germans and french of all people.
1 month ago
Anonymous
The frogs and the krauts were right and what happened later proved it. 99% of the moronation came from the US and the UK, with the rest of the world being opportunists.
And unlike moronic american propaganda, it had nothing to do with "cowardice" when those countries supported and were part of Afghanistan's invasion and occupation.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>were right
No, they weren't lmao. The one thing the frogs and kraut did was unironically helped saddam and then abandoning him when the U.S. was about to smack them in. Never trust the germans/french. The germans also did the same thing with Ukraine in 2009 by refusing to let them into NATO and basically kicked off Russia's plans to invade ukraine a few years later.
1 month ago
Anonymous
France and Germany told the US that Iraq was going to be a moronic mess for no gain and they were right. QED.
>we have to let the genocidal tyrant stay in power because if we don't the locals might fight over who gets to be genocidal tyrant next!
nah, it was cowardice pure and simple. They've justified it ex post facto, but it was perfectly apparent at the time that the population of those countries was fine with genocide as long as it was nimby.
tyrants and dictatorships are a dime a dozen and the US is friendly with them unless they frick with international trade, which was Saddam's real sin. Nobody really gave a frick about his death toll unless westerners could be targets. Which is why the neocons made up the WMD bullshit to imply that he could harm western countries.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>France and Germany are perfectly okay supplying rogue nations which frick with international trade, which was Saddam's real sin.
least dishonest Fr*nchman
1 month ago
Anonymous
>we have to let the genocidal tyrant stay in power because if we don't the locals might fight over who gets to be genocidal tyrant next!
nah, it was cowardice pure and simple. They've justified it ex post facto, but it was perfectly apparent at the time that the population of those countries was fine with genocide as long as it was nimby.
1 month ago
Anonymous
I feel bad you didn't get another reply to your shitty bait, so have a pity (You)
1 month ago
Anonymous
>central point >
https://i.imgur.com/sRSWlgC.gif
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The Taliban took back Afghanistan - they won. No moving the goal posts will change this. End of story.
Iraq had no WMDs and we failed to install a friendly pro-Western democracy. Our forces were largely unsuccessful in containing the insurgency and we were forced to spend large amounts of money buying off Sunni Tribes and making deals with local Shia leaders to leave without the entire thing falling apart. Today Iran has by far the most influence in Iraq and our misadventure there expanded Tehran's influence in the region.
No amount of "cope" or "seethe" will change those facts. >iraq had no WMDs.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>You keep trying to dodge the central point of those "WMD"s in no way being enough to justify the invasion
I never said it was. I was merely stating that they did have WMDs.
1 month ago
Anonymous
We used to have Iran-Iraq war threads on /k/ and the pictures of the chemical attack victims were gruesome.
1 month ago
Anonymous
nta, but do you have any links to these threads? sounds pretty interesting.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>rotting gas bombs and artillery
Lets ignore those weapons still had an effect on people despite being old, moron.
1 month ago
Anonymous
If you look at both links they both say it's classified. There are people that talk about it, but finding it is hard since google is so shit now. I'm not talking out of my ass. I read this shit years ago.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>american hysteria after 9/11 and buttholes wanting to cash in from it.
that's a weird way of saying zionists wanting to bump off Israel's biggest enemies.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Nah, nothing to do with that. Its mainly the hysteria and the fact that saddam was being shady as frick when it comes to him having a WMD program. Being a madman goes both ways when it comes to deterrence. Either you deter any enemy in the region or the enemy will come to the conclusion that you need to be dealt with fast.
1 month ago
Anonymous
1 month ago
Anonymous
oh and a classic
https://archive.org/details/DancingIsraelisFBIReport/fbi%20report%20section%201/page/n31/mode/2up
1 month ago
Anonymous
>muh dancing Israelis
Lets ignore al-Qaeda taking full responsibility of the attack and getting mad at iran for calling it a false flag. That incident is not really a indication of anything.
1 month ago
Anonymous
oh and a classic
https://archive.org/details/DancingIsraelisFBIReport/fbi%20report%20section%201/page/n31/mode/2up
It still has nothing to do with that lol. Schizos are morons that always takes things at face value. They prance around about being nuance, but yet take every single source that fits with their bias without doubts.
1 month ago
Anonymous
ironic
>muh dancing Israelis
Lets ignore al-Qaeda taking full responsibility of the attack and getting mad at iran for calling it a false flag. That incident is not really a indication of anything.
totally missing the point, the point is Mossad knew about the attacks well and advance and was monitoring the people who did it, but did nothing to warn the US, because they wanted it to happen.
That's moving the goalposts.
Almost any reasonable person will understand that Iraq's WMDs did not fit the claims of a working WMD program.
But what irks me is that "reasonable people" will believe statements like "Iraq had no WMDs" even though they absolutely fricking did. Turdworlders still go "found those WMDs yet?" and yeah we fricking did.
Sure the mobile labs were Azovstal Cum Pits tier of delusion, but we're not talking about retroactively justifying the Iraq war, just the cold hard fact that WMDs were found and the evil US empire actually hid it instead of taking a victory lap.
1 month ago
Anonymous
The bullshit came from the "media" that parrot the claim that they never had WMDs and taking certain context to fit whatever narrative they are trying to portray. Specifically a Anti war narrative. I forgot where it originally came from, but i remember it parroted by the media without much research.
1 month ago
Anonymous
The real "moving the goalposts" is pretending Iraq was about a few WMD chem munitions that almost all countries have in some way, instead of the 24/7 fearmonguering propaganda about Saddam wanting to bring the apocalypse with WMD that was widespread in the US/UK media at the time. >we're not talking about retroactively justifying the Iraq war
That's exactly what people try to do peddling the "ackshually there were WMDs" bullshit. It's just playing semantics to avoid acknowledging that it was all lies.
Like ziggers and tankies using Azov football hooligans to justify "denazifying" Ukraine.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>in some ways
In Iraq's case, they weren't supposed to have WMDs in the first place. They supposedly had their "stockpile" destroyed under un supervision.
1 month ago
Anonymous
They.
Did.
Not.
Have.
WMDs.
1 month ago
Anonymous
You write like a tumblrina that claps in between every word she says.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Are you stupid? Why are you repeating this stupid narrative?
1 month ago
Anonymous
As someone old enough to remember what happened, the entire justification of the war was focused on cherry picked (and wrong) information about Saddam's supposed nuclear program.
They found nothing to support that.
What they did find was leftover chemical and nerve agents that were supposed to have been disposed of, and that was publicized, but it wasn't the justification for the war so people didn't care.
So yes they found "WMDs", but not the nuclear ones.
1 month ago
Anonymous
Shut the frick up, I need to shill the next intervention here and you're making it hard for me.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Iraq is currently a stable(ish) government with a population motivated enough to have a competent military (by arab standards) with a procurement process functional enough to mass non-American equipment like the vhs-2 with very hands off support from the U.S.
Don’t get me wrong Iraq is 100% run off the idea that things are corrupt and shitty but rocking the boat will only make things worse but its a functional state at the least. Meanwhile iran’s government shenanigans are undermined my severe civil unrest because everyone in the country fricking hates the government
1 month ago
Anonymous
>The Taliban took back Afghanistan - they won. No moving the goal posts will change this. End of story.
Doesn't matter. The U.S. original goal wasn't to fight the taliban, but the clients they were protecting. In 2020, the doha agreement pretty much had the taliban agreed to not support al Qaeda anymore and a complete ceasefire/cease of support for the ANA when it comes to air support. The Afghan government lost on their own. >Iraq had no WMDs and we failed to install a friendly pro-Western democracy. Our forces were largely unsuccessful in containing the insurgency and we were forced to spend large amounts of money buying off Sunni Tribes and making deals with local Shia leaders to leave without the entire thing falling apart. Today Iran has by far the most influence in Iraq and our misadventure there expanded Tehran's influence in the region.
Iraq did have WMDs and the iran cope is funny when they INVITED American troops back to the country after asking them to leave in 2010. If iraq was truly an Iranian puppet, they wouldn't be willing to ask for Iran's main enemy to park behind their yard.
1 month ago
Anonymous
>Today Iran has by far the most influence in Iraq
I wish more people knew about how most deaths in Iraq were caused by Iranian meddling and starting a civil war, and not the US invasion, and which unironically wanted to declare victory and leave since fricking 2004.
Today it seems that only iraqis know about it.
I think it's something like 100 days minimum for 21/23 SAS, and you are expected to deploy at least once a year.
Basically everyone in it is self employed or unemployed. 21/23 SAS are the only group outside regular army allowed to attend selection for 22. So a fair few guys in the reserves are trying to speed run their way into 22 without ever needing to learn drill or shave.
Although also quite a lot of climbing instructors, farmers and the like.
https://i.imgur.com/nhwiMx8.jpg
the 20th SFG is part of the National Guard. Do they take a months training and put it into 2 days?
They won't be fully comparable to regular SF. I'm not familiar with them but would imagine they specialise in a narrower range of operations/skills.
What they represent is a pool of SF capable men who could be made fully competent in a relatively short amount of time through pre deployment training.
If the unit was based in South Carolina, the patch would make some sense.
Too many people get bent out of shape over stuff like this. The totenkopf, like the swastika, pre-dates the nazis, so a none issue.
>Too many people get bent out of shape over stuff like this. The totenkopf, like the swastika, pre-dates the nazis, so a none issue.
Who cares if it's a nazi symbol anyways? It's 2024, we can admit there were no bad guys in WW2 other than the USSR, and that it was just a power struggle like all wars.
>but muh holoc-
Shut the frick up. israelites' lives aren't magically worth more than other people's lives. Genghis Khan's conquests caused over 40 million deaths and nobody freaks out about that.
>just a power struggle
The people who started these bloody power struggles were bad, wehraboo
>Jews' lives aren't magically worth more than other people's lives
Not worth less either. No one complains about Khan because it all happened thousands of years ago. WW2 isn't even a century old and there are still survivors alive today. Don't apologize for them
>The people who started these bloody power struggles were bad, wehraboo
Either Stalin took over Europe or Hitler did. Lord knows the bongs wouldn't care about the Soviets knocking on their doorstep, all they cared about was fricking over the Germans because of Great War grudges (can't blame 'em, but they're still side-picking b***hes)
Well, there are thousands of Green Berets, and at minimum a few hundred Aussie SOF, and between those two groups you've produced a whopping 2 Nazi larp images. I could unironically find more SOF supporting Hilary Clinton which is absolutely not what most of them do.
>thinking c**ts on deployment flying swastikas on LRRP vics for shits and giggles during 8 month deployments makes them nazis somehow
you're not fooling anyone Black person
1 month ago
Anonymous
there is a decidedly higher concentration of nationalists in sf than anywhere else in the military
this is a fact
and i do not see it as a negative, as you frame it as
1 month ago
Anonymous
It's still cringe as frick to larp as a bunch of weak losers defeated by your own country 2 generations ago.
At least the viking larpers have a point about those guys having achieved something.
1 month ago
Anonymous
nobody is larping as germans
they are carrying on a philosophy which has developed into something more than you presently understand
1 month ago
Anonymous
>muh philosophy
Lol, they're just edgy morons and you another one clinging to a bunch of weak deviant losers and their self-serving we wuz kangs/dindu nuffin bullshit which was nothing but a dead end and a turd in the path of western civilization.
1 month ago
Anonymous
yeah so that's not what national socialism is
or even was
at any point
???
did you think i was shitting on them for this you utter moron?
>thinking c**ts on deployment flying swastikas on LRRP vics for shits and giggles during 8 month deployments makes them nazis somehow
you're not fooling anyone Black person
Lmao this is a great example of why these homosexuals always degenerate >I agree with you >You can't fool me, israelite Black person REEEEE
"special" might mean they train for things normal troops are not trained to do - not necessarily as an extra but instead of some things - "special purpose" does not mean "elite"
In that sense, literally every MOS even in wartime is just a support role, and the distinction of 'support role' is meaningless. 18 series have spent way, way more time shooting people than their 11 series peers in the last decade.
Reservist here.
They are either reservists that treated it seriously or they are people who did their time then went into reserve. >What they do
Everything auxiliary to SF basically morons but we have to maintain OPSEC crewing Vehicles to medical support. I have a PPL (I'm not a pilot it's just something I did for shits and giggles) so every few months I fly around and make sure I'm up to scratch. If there was some le epic special operations shit that's not at war time they use their own guys but in wartime we are expected to fill the role.
I think the only SF guard units are 1 in Utah and 1 in Georgia and they have to complete the same training and have the same qualifications. Usually guys with a college degree speak at least 1 non-english language etc etc. once training is done they have whatever work schedule 1 weekend a month + annual training and get deployed whenever the israelites want you to be deployed.
I would add it makes sense to have one in Utah because people here usually are smart, speak more than 1 language and have clean criminal history. Of course now it’s becoming a new San Francisco
They do 6 month rotations and pull a lot of reservist and guard units as support from Alabama and neighboring states. Additionally, 80% of the Alabama guard budget is allocated to them and they blanket reserve a ton of training locations which creates issues for units within the state. >T. AL weekend warrior and half my unit has 20th deployment patches
My friend is in the Special Forces reserves in Massachusetts, basically they go through Q course, spend about a year and a half on active duty, and then only get about 20 solid training days a year. When he's not doing that, he works as a tandem skydiver instructor
20th SFG has elements in a few different states' NG. The 19th SFG is the other reserve component group which is also NG, no SFG in the army reserves. As with any other MOS or unit, they have to meet the same standards and go through the same training pipelines as their active counterparts.
I have known people in 20th SFG and have a buddy in the Q course right now who enlisted as an 18X (SF candidate). 20th SFG is made up of guys coming off active duty SFG that want to still serve part time, guys that are already in the guard and go to SFAS and Q-course, as well as people like my friend known as "SF babies" who enlist as 18X. The pipeline for that is infantry OSUT 22 weeks at Benning, then Airborne school, then SFAS, then Q-course, then to your specific unit.
The training schedules vary from unit to unit but all units will typically do at least a 2 day drill once a month (known as a MUTA 4) but as with other guard units they can do 3 (MUTA 6) or 4 day (MUTA 8) drills on occasion.
In 20th and 19th SFG I am sure they probably do a little more than the typical 2 or 3 day drill one weekend a month, but they are also frequently going to schools and deploying for foreign internal defense (FID) missions which is one of the original purposes of SF or going on combat deployments.
I wish I could give more information about it but I never served in an SFG, I was an 11B in the FLARNG for 6 years so like I said I just know people who have been in 20th and got a buddy at the Q-course now.
I have never heard anything bad about NG SF components, and to the contrary, Bob Keller spoke very highly of his unit in 20th SFG. TLDR Bob was a Ranger pre-9/11 and re-enlisted with an SF contract following 9/11 with the FLARNG going into 20th Group and deployed with them early in GWOT, and said he would put that team against any other SF unit in the army he felt so highly of them. He retired from CAG a few years ago.
Ran out of room but I believe this was the podcast with Bob Keller where he says 20th SFG was switched on and squared away but he talks about his whole career.
He's from my hometown here in SWFL and retired to here and runs a training company for civis and local LE, few of my coworkers at my old department had an opportunity to train with him and were very impressed and it was good training. Been a year or so since I watched this video but he may go into more detail about what NG SF is like I just don't remember, and take it with a grain of salt because that was early 00's and a lot can change in 20 years. Hope this helps OP!
Heck yea homie, FLARNG? I enlisted into the 2/124 scout plt in HHC back in 08 (split op) so when I finished infantry school in 09 we were going straight to pre-deployment and got thrown into D Co., opted to stay in D Co. after deployment. I had nothing but fantastic NCO's and leadership at the platoon level the whole time I was in. My PSG from the scout plt who stayed as our PSG when we got attached to D Co. was muhreen force recon in the 1st gulf war. Super knowledgeable and hard mofo. I think he's an E-9 in the SFAB now. Very fortunate and many fond memories. Got out in 14.
From talking to the guys from 19th, they train quarterly instead of monthly, and their AT is almost always more than 2 weeks. You are expected to remain physically and tactically fit on your own time. Some of these guys are TX Rangers and so forth.
High speed natty guard guys are pretty much just full time except they get to pick and choose deployments. There is even a certain type of "rotation rider" who does nothing but bounce from rotation to school house back to rotation so they can just be full time reservists. Like texas has an airborne national guard unit and those guys are all chads who spend 8 months in Kosovo so they dont have to go back to their real jobs, come home do some jumps, go to ntc, hop on another rotation to some shit hole so they can get AD pay, hazard pay, and just hang out and lift weights.
they go on JCET missions to spy on brown people and guard bum it, or they do porn on the side, become alcoholics, try to sell guns to chinese nationals, air marshalls, fbi, retail sales associates. everything but emulate the quiet professionals that preceded them
I assume they work like regular reserves, but with more standards in regards to how physically fit they had to be. They are meant to be reserve to fill up any positions that are short handed in terms of army SOF.
>le ebil nazi
So they not gay and/or israelites?
Black person there is no swastika there. Only the dead head.
Ok but I really want that patch. Where do you get it?
Never mind, its not a afrikankorps logo. It looks similar, but its a palm tree patch with a skull. The USMC has a similar logo.
The USMC doesn't, but I made one to wear on my flak
Some marines already had thst idea
>African Corps
its just an afrika korps logo with the swastika replaced with an SS symbol. I would like to know where he got it though.
The skull is known as the totenkopf. Its probably an afrikakorps patch that replaced the swatsika with a totenkopf
you're laboring under the idea that "special forces" means "UBER ELITE UNKILLABLE SUPERMEN" instead of just "gets the shit jobs nobody else wants/jobs we can't trust actual moronic fricking Black folk to do because they are actual moronic fricking Black folk", probably because you yourself are a Black person and anything beyond your comprehension is Literally Superman shit
I believe they go to the same Q course and schools as full timers to earn the same qualification, then go on part time once they have the long tab and get to their unit. Supposedly plenty of oppo to go on deployments/activations in that world.
>Supposedly plenty of oppo to go on deployments/activations in that world.
They were one of the first troops that went to Iraq and Afghanistan.
the ODA yea, in the same way not ever SEAL is in DEVGRU
My brother knew a guy who was one and he said it's basically full time even when they're done with intial training. The only real difference is that they weren't assigned to a particular army base. They had orders to live in some city and would work out and train full time, I guess on land the unit leased or something although they would go to normal military bases to do stuff there as well. They did travel a lot for training.
I wanna say he said they were "stationed" in Austin, TX, but I could be miss remembering. That's where my brother was living at the time so it would make sense. There's also a fair amount of spook stuff in Austin (my brother is a desk jockey type spook).
They might recruit from former SOF guys who still want to serve in some capacity but their knees are too shot for full time.
Or it's just part of a brainwashing op to create the ultimate zogbots in your backyard.
>They might recruit from former SOF guys
Not really. They work like any other Reserve unit, they train and deploy when called up. If you are in a Reserve SF Group, you can also volunteer to deploy in support of other active duty SF Groups on a TDY basis.
sir, you got the wrong directive, in this place you are supposed to call them trannies and ZOGbots, the nazi line is for left leaning spaces, thanks for the needful
Dont know about the US army, but in the UK the special forces reserve units are pretty much impossible to work around a normal job around them due to the training and deployment expectations. My old boss tried to join the reserve Parachute regiment unit which arent special forces but have a higher standard of training and attendance than most. While he said he was passing everything he needed to do, he couldn't keep up with the time commitment between his normal job and family life.
usually these are filled to the brim with ex-SF, most of them self employed
>these are filled to the brim with ex-SF
They are SF
I knew one guy who was reserve SF and worked as a defense contractor, he was high speed for sure, had a bunch of active tours under his belt with 3rd Group as I recall. Really cool guy, owned his own security business. Super friendly, definitely kind of a psychopath. He told me “you’re going to love war.” When I was graduating AIT and he was in the WOC course. He was moving to the reserves and went intel when he got tired of the life and wanted the maintained TS clearance. He’s still in as a Warrant I think.
From what he said the unit was (this was like 2018) comprised of Iraq/Afghanistan SF vets with a touch of high speed national guard guys, they did deploy.
I said in my above post he was reserve SF, he was not, he was NG SF transferring to the reserves to do intel.
There is no Reserve SF, just National Guard.
I know I corrected myself…
how did the Taliban and IRGC win if we had such badass high speed guys with security camera install franchises like that?
Die a lot in humiliating ways. Then have your grandkids and Indians claim victory when the white males go home.
t. cope.
Taliban won btw
That's a funny way to say giving up. Only winners cross the finish line
>IRGC
>Muh Iraq is an Iranian puppet because they aren't getting gassed like the Iran-Iraq war
homie what
>muh iraq
The iraqis got demolished
>muh Afghanistan
Taliban got demolished. Afghanistan specifically wasn't an issue of tactics, but more of an issue to how stable to Afghan republic is. The U.S. withdraw support and it instantly collapsed. With iraq taking a few years and the U.S. was willing to go back tp iraq to prevent the collapse of the iraqi government.
>IRGC
According to who? They didn't win shit.
>According to who?
That one cartoon from /misc/
The Taliban took back Afghanistan - they won. No moving the goal posts will change this. End of story.
Iraq had no WMDs and we failed to install a friendly pro-Western democracy. Our forces were largely unsuccessful in containing the insurgency and we were forced to spend large amounts of money buying off Sunni Tribes and making deals with local Shia leaders to leave without the entire thing falling apart. Today Iran has by far the most influence in Iraq and our misadventure there expanded Tehran's influence in the region.
No amount of "cope" or "seethe" will change those facts.
>The Taliban took back Afghanistan - they won
Against the Afghan government, whose forces were either composed of 70 IQ inbreds or people who wanted to fight but had no ammo or rations because all the money got pocketed by corrupt officials.
Basically the Taliban won against an alternate Russia if oil wasn't profitable.
>Iraq had no WMDs
They absolutely fricking did. After they were found the US servicemen who had their lives ruined due to exposure to nerve agent were told to shut the frick up or else Al Qaeda would start an easter egg hunt for them.
>Iraq had no WMDs
They did. For some reason morons don't count chemical weapons as WMDs.
t.
Thay had jack shit. Nothing that justified the lies told about Iraq pretending to attack other countries with WMD or nukes and all that bullshit.
Even the fricking CIA was against it and was effectlively forced to comply by the Neocons (unlike the turdworlders that can't shut up about muh CIA believe)
>Iraq pretending to attack other countries with WMD
They used chemicals weapons on coalition troops over a hundred times. That's why they were wearing chemical protection suits.
Read achilles trap. Saddam got rid of his stuff around gulf war I but intentionally misrepresented his capabilities
>They used chemicals weapons on coalition troops over a hundred times.
I swear GWOT die hard defenders are just like tankies. Just lies and lies to not admit losing face and be exposed as useful idiots and the whole thing being a gigantic failure except in very loose geostrategic terms being very generous.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2014/10/15/356360949/pentagon-reportedly-hushed-up-chemical-weapons-finds-in-iraq
>In all, American troops secretly reported finding roughly 5,000 chemical warheads, shells or aviation bombs
no wmdz guise
>from "They used chemicals weapons on coalition troops over a hundred times." to "they found useless chemical bombs left over gassing the kurds"
I accept your concession. There was nothing relevant to justify the made up hysteria in the US and the UK about Iraq going to gas western countries or Saudi Arabia.
It's time to let it go: You were duped if you believed the neocons and everybody knew it at the time, they just didn't gave a frick.
Not him, but many american troops suffered from injuries related to chemical attacks.
Are you seriously pretending that a bunch of GIs fricking around and finding out with abandoned chem munitions is the same as being targeted by deliberate chem attacks that NEVER happened?
This is just grasping at straws. Those "WMD" were pathetic left overs more dangerous to iraqis than anybody else, and in no way justified the invasion, which had not even sound geostrategic reasons about oil control, and in the end was more about american hysteria after 9/11 and buttholes wanting to cash in from it.
>moving goal post
>they did have WMDS
>T-those were just old munitions
You're moving goal post here. Another note: why the frick did iraq have chemical weapons despite supposedly destroying them under "UN" supervision? Seems like saddam was planning to use them later on just like he did a few years prior on the kurds. He didn't have a WMD program, which was main issue rather than him actually having the weapon itself. You're believing media bullshit from that time.
Iraq never had Weapons of Mass Destruction that could really threaten its neighbours nevermind Europe or the UK like the propaganda of the era tried to peddle. That's a fact, and the "ackshually they had a few rotting gas bombs and artillery shells" is just cope and butthurt for being the neocon's useful idiots.
It's time to let it go.
>that could threaten
My Black person, ISIS literally found stockpiles and rained hell on a big region of the middle east. Iraq never had a program, but they did had a sizable WMDs that they were supposed to dispose, not stockpile/hiding from UN oversight.
You keep trying to dodge the central point of those "WMD"s in no way being enough to justify the invasion (not to mention the long list of thirdie countries which also had and have those). Specially since both the US and the UK had no idea about it and instead made up a bunch of bullshit about nukes and nervous gas to stir up voters, even forcing their own intelligence agencies to comply and follow the narrative they wanted. Because nobody would have supported it otherwise just because a few left overs from the Iran-Iraq war.
Still talking unironically about WMDs twenty years after the invasion is fricking moronic. No, the GIs that got poisoned do not count. You got duped, deal with it and move on.
>yeah they had WMDs
>but you guys actually didn't know about it
>and you uhh got duped because they didn't have the WMDs they had because you didn't know about it and you forced your intelligence to believe they did
>buck broken by neocon propaganda
I'm old enough to remember that "WMD" became a propaganda term because NBQ sounded too nerdy and technical.Countries with chem weapons are a dime a dozen, but Iraq got singled out for different reasons that went back to the 90s and oil trade.
It's also noticeable how the bullshit about Iraq supporting "islamofascist" terrorists was memoryholed after the war.
The media back then hopped on the "no WMD story" despite that not even being true. Aside from that, saddam was suspicious of helping out terrorists, which made the U.S. paranoid after what happened in 9/11.
All the islamic terrorist groups also fricking hated Saddam, even with him larping as a fedayeen just before the invasion. Nobody but morons bought it, and that's the reason Bush had to create a "Coalion of the Willing" with only the UK and z-tier countries after the rest of NATO told him to frick off (another fact usually memoryholed by tankies)
>hated saddam
Not all of them. Some of them were hand to hand with saddam in terms of fundings and what not. Especially in the 2000s when saddam wanted to get back at the U.S.. aside from that, the most notable one that didn't do the invasion is German and france. Which saddam had contacts with before and was confident in the germans/french not letting America do the invasion. Overall, the prelude of the invasion of iraq was riddled with moronation, especially from germany, france and iraq. If iraq wasn't playing footies with the UN, the U.S. wouldn't have had much justifications. They were also moronic in trusting the germans and french of all people.
The frogs and the krauts were right and what happened later proved it. 99% of the moronation came from the US and the UK, with the rest of the world being opportunists.
And unlike moronic american propaganda, it had nothing to do with "cowardice" when those countries supported and were part of Afghanistan's invasion and occupation.
>were right
No, they weren't lmao. The one thing the frogs and kraut did was unironically helped saddam and then abandoning him when the U.S. was about to smack them in. Never trust the germans/french. The germans also did the same thing with Ukraine in 2009 by refusing to let them into NATO and basically kicked off Russia's plans to invade ukraine a few years later.
France and Germany told the US that Iraq was going to be a moronic mess for no gain and they were right. QED.
tyrants and dictatorships are a dime a dozen and the US is friendly with them unless they frick with international trade, which was Saddam's real sin. Nobody really gave a frick about his death toll unless westerners could be targets. Which is why the neocons made up the WMD bullshit to imply that he could harm western countries.
>France and Germany are perfectly okay supplying rogue nations which frick with international trade, which was Saddam's real sin.
least dishonest Fr*nchman
>we have to let the genocidal tyrant stay in power because if we don't the locals might fight over who gets to be genocidal tyrant next!
nah, it was cowardice pure and simple. They've justified it ex post facto, but it was perfectly apparent at the time that the population of those countries was fine with genocide as long as it was nimby.
I feel bad you didn't get another reply to your shitty bait, so have a pity (You)
>central point
>
[...]
The Taliban took back Afghanistan - they won. No moving the goal posts will change this. End of story.
Iraq had no WMDs and we failed to install a friendly pro-Western democracy. Our forces were largely unsuccessful in containing the insurgency and we were forced to spend large amounts of money buying off Sunni Tribes and making deals with local Shia leaders to leave without the entire thing falling apart. Today Iran has by far the most influence in Iraq and our misadventure there expanded Tehran's influence in the region.
No amount of "cope" or "seethe" will change those facts.
>iraq had no WMDs.
>You keep trying to dodge the central point of those "WMD"s in no way being enough to justify the invasion
I never said it was. I was merely stating that they did have WMDs.
We used to have Iran-Iraq war threads on /k/ and the pictures of the chemical attack victims were gruesome.
nta, but do you have any links to these threads? sounds pretty interesting.
>rotting gas bombs and artillery
Lets ignore those weapons still had an effect on people despite being old, moron.
If you look at both links they both say it's classified. There are people that talk about it, but finding it is hard since google is so shit now. I'm not talking out of my ass. I read this shit years ago.
>american hysteria after 9/11 and buttholes wanting to cash in from it.
that's a weird way of saying zionists wanting to bump off Israel's biggest enemies.
Nah, nothing to do with that. Its mainly the hysteria and the fact that saddam was being shady as frick when it comes to him having a WMD program. Being a madman goes both ways when it comes to deterrence. Either you deter any enemy in the region or the enemy will come to the conclusion that you need to be dealt with fast.
oh and a classic
https://archive.org/details/DancingIsraelisFBIReport/fbi%20report%20section%201/page/n31/mode/2up
>muh dancing Israelis
Lets ignore al-Qaeda taking full responsibility of the attack and getting mad at iran for calling it a false flag. That incident is not really a indication of anything.
It still has nothing to do with that lol. Schizos are morons that always takes things at face value. They prance around about being nuance, but yet take every single source that fits with their bias without doubts.
ironic
totally missing the point, the point is Mossad knew about the attacks well and advance and was monitoring the people who did it, but did nothing to warn the US, because they wanted it to happen.
If you want victims.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
That's moving the goalposts.
Almost any reasonable person will understand that Iraq's WMDs did not fit the claims of a working WMD program.
But what irks me is that "reasonable people" will believe statements like "Iraq had no WMDs" even though they absolutely fricking did. Turdworlders still go "found those WMDs yet?" and yeah we fricking did.
Sure the mobile labs were Azovstal Cum Pits tier of delusion, but we're not talking about retroactively justifying the Iraq war, just the cold hard fact that WMDs were found and the evil US empire actually hid it instead of taking a victory lap.
The bullshit came from the "media" that parrot the claim that they never had WMDs and taking certain context to fit whatever narrative they are trying to portray. Specifically a Anti war narrative. I forgot where it originally came from, but i remember it parroted by the media without much research.
The real "moving the goalposts" is pretending Iraq was about a few WMD chem munitions that almost all countries have in some way, instead of the 24/7 fearmonguering propaganda about Saddam wanting to bring the apocalypse with WMD that was widespread in the US/UK media at the time.
>we're not talking about retroactively justifying the Iraq war
That's exactly what people try to do peddling the "ackshually there were WMDs" bullshit. It's just playing semantics to avoid acknowledging that it was all lies.
Like ziggers and tankies using Azov football hooligans to justify "denazifying" Ukraine.
>in some ways
In Iraq's case, they weren't supposed to have WMDs in the first place. They supposedly had their "stockpile" destroyed under un supervision.
They.
Did.
Not.
Have.
WMDs.
You write like a tumblrina that claps in between every word she says.
Are you stupid? Why are you repeating this stupid narrative?
As someone old enough to remember what happened, the entire justification of the war was focused on cherry picked (and wrong) information about Saddam's supposed nuclear program.
They found nothing to support that.
What they did find was leftover chemical and nerve agents that were supposed to have been disposed of, and that was publicized, but it wasn't the justification for the war so people didn't care.
So yes they found "WMDs", but not the nuclear ones.
Shut the frick up, I need to shill the next intervention here and you're making it hard for me.
>Iraq is currently a stable(ish) government with a population motivated enough to have a competent military (by arab standards) with a procurement process functional enough to mass non-American equipment like the vhs-2 with very hands off support from the U.S.
Don’t get me wrong Iraq is 100% run off the idea that things are corrupt and shitty but rocking the boat will only make things worse but its a functional state at the least. Meanwhile iran’s government shenanigans are undermined my severe civil unrest because everyone in the country fricking hates the government
>The Taliban took back Afghanistan - they won. No moving the goal posts will change this. End of story.
Doesn't matter. The U.S. original goal wasn't to fight the taliban, but the clients they were protecting. In 2020, the doha agreement pretty much had the taliban agreed to not support al Qaeda anymore and a complete ceasefire/cease of support for the ANA when it comes to air support. The Afghan government lost on their own.
>Iraq had no WMDs and we failed to install a friendly pro-Western democracy. Our forces were largely unsuccessful in containing the insurgency and we were forced to spend large amounts of money buying off Sunni Tribes and making deals with local Shia leaders to leave without the entire thing falling apart. Today Iran has by far the most influence in Iraq and our misadventure there expanded Tehran's influence in the region.
Iraq did have WMDs and the iran cope is funny when they INVITED American troops back to the country after asking them to leave in 2010. If iraq was truly an Iranian puppet, they wouldn't be willing to ask for Iran's main enemy to park behind their yard.
>Today Iran has by far the most influence in Iraq
I wish more people knew about how most deaths in Iraq were caused by Iranian meddling and starting a civil war, and not the US invasion, and which unironically wanted to declare victory and leave since fricking 2004.
Today it seems that only iraqis know about it.
>they hated him because he spoke the truth
>we
post passport, Ranjesh
>badass high speed guys with security camera install franchise
That's pretty smart honestly, he probably made a frick ton more money then an active duty SF. Also had a direct line to hire people to his company.
I think it's something like 100 days minimum for 21/23 SAS, and you are expected to deploy at least once a year.
Basically everyone in it is self employed or unemployed. 21/23 SAS are the only group outside regular army allowed to attend selection for 22. So a fair few guys in the reserves are trying to speed run their way into 22 without ever needing to learn drill or shave.
Although also quite a lot of climbing instructors, farmers and the like.
They won't be fully comparable to regular SF. I'm not familiar with them but would imagine they specialise in a narrower range of operations/skills.
What they represent is a pool of SF capable men who could be made fully competent in a relatively short amount of time through pre deployment training.
Holy shit guise, notsees in the US army
What I've been told is that they do a six month training rotation and the rest of the year they chill at home.
If the unit was based in South Carolina, the patch would make some sense.
Too many people get bent out of shape over stuff like this. The totenkopf, like the swastika, pre-dates the nazis, so a none issue.
>ignores the thread topic and focuses on the swastika
Rabbi, shut the frick up. We're tired of you and your ilk
OP pic focuses on swastika
>Too many people get bent out of shape over stuff like this. The totenkopf, like the swastika, pre-dates the nazis, so a none issue.
Who cares if it's a nazi symbol anyways? It's 2024, we can admit there were no bad guys in WW2 other than the USSR, and that it was just a power struggle like all wars.
>but muh holoc-
Shut the frick up. israelites' lives aren't magically worth more than other people's lives. Genghis Khan's conquests caused over 40 million deaths and nobody freaks out about that.
>nobody freaks out about that
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/14/china-insists-genghis-khan-exhibit-not-use-words-genghis-khan
some butts are still hurt 800 years later
>Genghis Khan's conquests caused over 40 million deaths and nobody freaks out about that.
My Chinese professor is still butthurt about it. He won't let you mention the Mongols without including all the people they massacred.
>just a power struggle
The people who started these bloody power struggles were bad, wehraboo
>Jews' lives aren't magically worth more than other people's lives
Not worth less either. No one complains about Khan because it all happened thousands of years ago. WW2 isn't even a century old and there are still survivors alive today. Don't apologize for them
No one complains about the annual holocaust worth of deaths Britain caused in India, in fact Britain are still labelled the good guys of WW2.
They frankly didn't go far enough
We could be free of the vast majority of Russian shills and phone scammers if the Bongs had just done the needful.
can't we just arm the moderate toilet witches?
>The people who started these bloody power struggles were bad, wehraboo
Either Stalin took over Europe or Hitler did. Lord knows the bongs wouldn't care about the Soviets knocking on their doorstep, all they cared about was fricking over the Germans because of Great War grudges (can't blame 'em, but they're still side-picking b***hes)
>we can admit there were no bad guys in WW2
Go back to Stormfront, wehraboo.
No Black person, frick you. The Nazis weren't le heckin' good guys, they were absolute shit stains.
>revealing you're completely fine with genocide and then wondering in the same minute why people don't like your ideology
How is that all the elite military forces are full of nazis?
>full of nazis
>literally one homie with a gay patch
lol
>literally one
Aussies were the most based SF group.
Well, there are thousands of Green Berets, and at minimum a few hundred Aussie SOF, and between those two groups you've produced a whopping 2 Nazi larp images. I could unironically find more SOF supporting Hilary Clinton which is absolutely not what most of them do.
Please stop man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Day_X_plot
Like please
>a correlation between meritocratic male-dominated warfighting organisations and meritocratic in-group bias?
>bullshit i don't buy it
>meritocratic
stay mad brownie
???
did you think i was shitting on them for this you utter moron?
>thinking c**ts on deployment flying swastikas on LRRP vics for shits and giggles during 8 month deployments makes them nazis somehow
you're not fooling anyone Black person
there is a decidedly higher concentration of nationalists in sf than anywhere else in the military
this is a fact
and i do not see it as a negative, as you frame it as
It's still cringe as frick to larp as a bunch of weak losers defeated by your own country 2 generations ago.
At least the viking larpers have a point about those guys having achieved something.
nobody is larping as germans
they are carrying on a philosophy which has developed into something more than you presently understand
>muh philosophy
Lol, they're just edgy morons and you another one clinging to a bunch of weak deviant losers and their self-serving we wuz kangs/dindu nuffin bullshit which was nothing but a dead end and a turd in the path of western civilization.
yeah so that's not what national socialism is
or even was
at any point
Lmao this is a great example of why these homosexuals always degenerate
>I agree with you
>You can't fool me, israelite Black person REEEEE
"special" might mean they train for things normal troops are not trained to do - not necessarily as an extra but instead of some things - "special purpose" does not mean "elite"
SF qualified just means you passed the Q course and are certified for a certain mission set. 18 series are technically a support role you know...
here's your support role badge
you know im right and we dont have to have the ensuing discussion about how SF is mostly doing things that aren't direct action anyway
In that sense, literally every MOS even in wartime is just a support role, and the distinction of 'support role' is meaningless. 18 series have spent way, way more time shooting people than their 11 series peers in the last decade.
Indeed, someone had to kill the hundred thousand civilians in Iraq alone, it sure isn't a conventional task
Lmao of course this is a shill thread because of the power plant in Russia being bombed today.
good. i don't wanna hear your nonsense.
why does his hairline look like that
Because he's wearing a toupee.
>t. non-select
Do they let you be in the secret fort bragg drug ring if your national guard or do you have to be mainline sf
Reservist here.
They are either reservists that treated it seriously or they are people who did their time then went into reserve.
>What they do
Everything auxiliary to SF basically morons but we have to maintain OPSEC crewing Vehicles to medical support. I have a PPL (I'm not a pilot it's just something I did for shits and giggles) so every few months I fly around and make sure I'm up to scratch. If there was some le epic special operations shit that's not at war time they use their own guys but in wartime we are expected to fill the role.
>20th SFG
99.99% chance the guy is Hispanic.
Mi reina
Thats a roman salute its traditional
>some radical right/left organization
>paid prostitute to attract losers
>RT logo
this is bingo
>We live in world were there's more nazi beaners than white nazis
Yes, that should tell you all you need to know about nazis and beaners
i love light colored latinas they have cute faces and fiery personalities
I think the only SF guard units are 1 in Utah and 1 in Georgia and they have to complete the same training and have the same qualifications. Usually guys with a college degree speak at least 1 non-english language etc etc. once training is done they have whatever work schedule 1 weekend a month + annual training and get deployed whenever the israelites want you to be deployed.
I would add it makes sense to have one in Utah because people here usually are smart, speak more than 1 language and have clean criminal history. Of course now it’s becoming a new San Francisco
the DoD language school is in California lol. homosexual.
Utah is full of Mormons many are fluent in other languages because of missionary work by age 20
Oh it’s Alabama not Georgia
They do 6 month rotations and pull a lot of reservist and guard units as support from Alabama and neighboring states. Additionally, 80% of the Alabama guard budget is allocated to them and they blanket reserve a ton of training locations which creates issues for units within the state.
>T. AL weekend warrior and half my unit has 20th deployment patches
My friend is in the Special Forces reserves in Massachusetts, basically they go through Q course, spend about a year and a half on active duty, and then only get about 20 solid training days a year. When he's not doing that, he works as a tandem skydiver instructor
To answer OP's question:
20th SFG has elements in a few different states' NG. The 19th SFG is the other reserve component group which is also NG, no SFG in the army reserves. As with any other MOS or unit, they have to meet the same standards and go through the same training pipelines as their active counterparts.
I have known people in 20th SFG and have a buddy in the Q course right now who enlisted as an 18X (SF candidate). 20th SFG is made up of guys coming off active duty SFG that want to still serve part time, guys that are already in the guard and go to SFAS and Q-course, as well as people like my friend known as "SF babies" who enlist as 18X. The pipeline for that is infantry OSUT 22 weeks at Benning, then Airborne school, then SFAS, then Q-course, then to your specific unit.
The training schedules vary from unit to unit but all units will typically do at least a 2 day drill once a month (known as a MUTA 4) but as with other guard units they can do 3 (MUTA 6) or 4 day (MUTA 8) drills on occasion.
In 20th and 19th SFG I am sure they probably do a little more than the typical 2 or 3 day drill one weekend a month, but they are also frequently going to schools and deploying for foreign internal defense (FID) missions which is one of the original purposes of SF or going on combat deployments.
I wish I could give more information about it but I never served in an SFG, I was an 11B in the FLARNG for 6 years so like I said I just know people who have been in 20th and got a buddy at the Q-course now.
I have never heard anything bad about NG SF components, and to the contrary, Bob Keller spoke very highly of his unit in 20th SFG. TLDR Bob was a Ranger pre-9/11 and re-enlisted with an SF contract following 9/11 with the FLARNG going into 20th Group and deployed with them early in GWOT, and said he would put that team against any other SF unit in the army he felt so highly of them. He retired from CAG a few years ago.
Ran out of room but I believe this was the podcast with Bob Keller where he says 20th SFG was switched on and squared away but he talks about his whole career.
He's from my hometown here in SWFL and retired to here and runs a training company for civis and local LE, few of my coworkers at my old department had an opportunity to train with him and were very impressed and it was good training. Been a year or so since I watched this video but he may go into more detail about what NG SF is like I just don't remember, and take it with a grain of salt because that was early 00's and a lot can change in 20 years. Hope this helps OP!
My PSG is former 20th and he’s a baller, easily the best nco in the company’s leadership.
Heck yea homie, FLARNG? I enlisted into the 2/124 scout plt in HHC back in 08 (split op) so when I finished infantry school in 09 we were going straight to pre-deployment and got thrown into D Co., opted to stay in D Co. after deployment. I had nothing but fantastic NCO's and leadership at the platoon level the whole time I was in. My PSG from the scout plt who stayed as our PSG when we got attached to D Co. was muhreen force recon in the 1st gulf war. Super knowledgeable and hard mofo. I think he's an E-9 in the SFAB now. Very fortunate and many fond memories. Got out in 14.
From talking to the guys from 19th, they train quarterly instead of monthly, and their AT is almost always more than 2 weeks. You are expected to remain physically and tactically fit on your own time. Some of these guys are TX Rangers and so forth.
High speed natty guard guys are pretty much just full time except they get to pick and choose deployments. There is even a certain type of "rotation rider" who does nothing but bounce from rotation to school house back to rotation so they can just be full time reservists. Like texas has an airborne national guard unit and those guys are all chads who spend 8 months in Kosovo so they dont have to go back to their real jobs, come home do some jumps, go to ntc, hop on another rotation to some shit hole so they can get AD pay, hazard pay, and just hang out and lift weights.
they go on JCET missions to spy on brown people and guard bum it, or they do porn on the side, become alcoholics, try to sell guns to chinese nationals, air marshalls, fbi, retail sales associates. everything but emulate the quiet professionals that preceded them
This unit is headquarted in Birmingham, Alabama with Eglin AFB (with F-35s) down in the Florida Panhandle.