Has anyone made their own AP ammo with Chinese tungsten fishing weights put inside of bullet casts and will it work against Boston Dynamics robots and...

Has anyone made their own AP ammo with Chinese tungsten fishing weights put inside of bullet casts and will it work against Boston Dynamics robots and level IV armor?

Asking for a friend.

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    You know, they make tungsten and tubgsten nickle iron magnum shotgun loads. Those would damage numerous systems, wires, sensors, etc.
    >would thermite shotgun shells/slugs be better?
    Recommending as a friend,

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Must have been a blast to be a 40k artist in the early days

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Congratulations OP you have succeeded in getting me to click on your thread.

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I see what you did there.

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There's easier way of dealing with Boston Dynamics robots

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      they should program kung fu or Bruce Lee's moves into one of them and then fight it

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >tungsten fishing weights
    >not tunsten TIG electrodes, which at least one /k/ommando put a couple months into developing a .308 load for
    Shameful display.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      It was a few months, but this more or less happened over a year ago.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Hey I have uploaded ap anons work to a mega. Sry it took a while. The pdf was on another phone

      https://mega DOT nz/file/ETdhhQ6D#DE69XBtabHiyX8cyaV2o-S7WkuVlM3aj7YcPgaWxp5Y

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        God I love this place. Thank you for your service.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        thanks for posting, fun to read about efforts even if I'll never do 'em

        Yes, it's legal with a type 10 ffl. And we've had a few good AP ammo threads in the last year. Although the last AP anon working with tungsten was I think using cylinders intended for pen tip parts and such and the cutting/grinding them himself.

        Last thread we tried to consider possibilities that would be "AP" but not violate the GCA. Turns out the GCA defines what is legally AP ammo in a badly precise way based on stuff Congress thought of at the time. Definition:
        >(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
        >(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.
        It doesn't do it by Mohs hardness or something. This leaves a lot of interesting stuff on the periodic table accessible. Tantalum is a promising candidate for example, as well as various advanced ceramics. It's easy to avoid the jacket weight thing with a high density core and then using polymer or aluminum or the like. Congress wasn't thinking digital CNC and ordering anything from alibaba back in 1968.

        So if you don't want to go get a license to make AP ammo using restricted materials but are serious, look into non-restricted materials that we have available now but not back then. In 30 cal that should do it.

        as guide points out there is the "handgun" bit too though that's pretty arbitrary. there is brass ammo sold open in .416 for example so clearly some stuff can get away, 50bmg too probably, stuff that literally has never had a functional handgun ever made.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Meganz will report you to the feds when they delete your stuff

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >phone
        gay

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    There is literally a small group of autists who did exactly that, OP.

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Post more cushioned, sire.

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I really need me some robot loads for the upcoming war.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Using robot loads for the upcoming war
      >Not robot babies

      Mfw

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

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        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

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        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

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          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Isshou Sukitte Yutta jan

            is the MC a cuck, because he turned down pussy.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >is the MC a cuck
              The girl he liked went and fricked all his friends because of this pussy comment so yes.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >ntr

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                How is it NTR if the guy himself 'rejected' her?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                he didn't reject her, he just had a gamer moment and lost his chance to score. now the b***h fricked other people.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                homie, you don't insult someone dick or pussy and get away with it. That guy deserves everything he got.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Imagine being heartbroken over a prostitute.
                Lmfao

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yes, it's legal with a type 10 ffl. And we've had a few good AP ammo threads in the last year. Although the last AP anon working with tungsten was I think using cylinders intended for pen tip parts and such and the cutting/grinding them himself.

    Last thread we tried to consider possibilities that would be "AP" but not violate the GCA. Turns out the GCA defines what is legally AP ammo in a badly precise way based on stuff Congress thought of at the time. Definition:
    >(i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper, or depleted uranium; or
    >(ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile.
    It doesn't do it by Mohs hardness or something. This leaves a lot of interesting stuff on the periodic table accessible. Tantalum is a promising candidate for example, as well as various advanced ceramics. It's easy to avoid the jacket weight thing with a high density core and then using polymer or aluminum or the like. Congress wasn't thinking digital CNC and ordering anything from alibaba back in 1968.

    So if you don't want to go get a license to make AP ammo using restricted materials but are serious, look into non-restricted materials that we have available now but not back then. In 30 cal that should do it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Hey I have uploaded ap anons work to a mega. Sry it took a while. The pdf was on another phone

      https://mega DOT nz/file/ETdhhQ6D#DE69XBtabHiyX8cyaV2o-S7WkuVlM3aj7YcPgaWxp5Y

      Are you him? I just posted the mega link for the 1.0 pdf. Have updates dropped? Haven't seen an ap thread in a bit.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >Are you him? I just posted the mega link for the 1.0 pdf.
        No, just another contributor/enjoyer not the main AP anon. I've only barely started experimenting with non-regulated materials.
        >Have updates dropped? Haven't seen an ap thread in a bit.
        Last good thread was, I want to say, a few weeks ago maybe? I could have sworn I saved it but now I can't find it. If you search archive though for "tantalum" should get you there, that word doesn't show up very much on /k/. Very promising physical properties and density, though of course hard to shape. Pricing actually isn't terrible either (by AP ammo standards). If there was another PDF in that thread I don't remember either sadly, thanks for posting that one since I don't have it on this computer either.

        The main point of interest for unregulated materials would be to just flat out do handgun ammo, or at least do rifle ammo and not let the ATF screw around with "well actually 308 could be a handgun round" BS. A real company could get into more exotic carbides and custom ceramic composites with dense metal foundation (18k maybe) but while I know the theory that's beyond straight forward home usage. There are custom makers for higher in china but min order size is significant.

        Anyway, fun niche area to play with. Though I'd never really thought about the drone angle, that could actually become a real issue in my life, fug.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          King reply.
          I'm just really passionate about global commerce, marking scribes, and unstoppable signals.
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    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >in a badly precise way based on stuff Congress thought of at the time
      Pedantically, that language was written by NRA, not Congress.
      Congress was originally contemplating language to the effect of "any ammunition that pierces police body armor", which would've included pretty much every rifle cartridge and all FMJ/solid loadings in magnum handgun cartridges.

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Just get a .460 Weatherby Mag and handload .45-70 bullets. A 300gr copper solid moving 3000 FPS is going to shatter ribs with backface deformation and will break sensitive electronics with the shock even if the armor blocks the hit.

  11. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Yeah, haven't seen AP anon in a while, hopefully he wasn't v&

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      how does this effect accuracy? are the lead and tungsten close enough in weight not to matter

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Read the mega ITT and find out for yourself.

      • 2 years ago
        APAnon

        That method was pretty shit for accuracy. Newer methods are 1MOA or better.

        What kinda tungsten did you use? I’m too lazy and paranoid to download the stuff

        Just read the guide. It's on Odysee if you want to preview it on their without saving it to your pc. Just look up APAnon.

        Yeah, haven't seen AP anon in a while, hopefully he wasn't v&

        Still kickin'

    • 2 years ago
      APAnon

      Both of the main APAnons are fine. There's a lot of us. Development is still in the works. Things just keep getting in the way, though. The new design is pretty fricking effective, way outclassing what the 1.0 guide had. One of the guys is in AWCY and working on their sabot project as well as the main apanon project.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        What kinda tungsten did you use? I’m too lazy and paranoid to download the stuff

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    What are these types of pictures called and where do I get more

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Stable diffusion or something, the op pic is an edit of AK12 from GFL and some guy in PrepHole spams vidya butts threads made a bunch of the edits

      As a disclaimer to the custodians I am not the original poster(s)

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I want to make some, fricking love them. Have like 3 nicocadoAvocado ones saved lol

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        oh THAT'S what it's meant to be. I thought it was meant to be like those penis awe pics

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          VB poster is a hero

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Man has two hobbies
            >Posting VB
            >Resetting router

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              router
              I don’t do that

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                The hero we need but don’t deserve

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

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              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

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          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            the AI generated images are close enough to the real ones, that you can reverse image search them.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    you know hardness doesn't mean anything if there is no extra power behind it?

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >but if it’s not kosher for him to sell it then I won’t ask for anti robot rounds.
    If it's legally AP then no, he can make it for himself but only sell it to military/LEA. There is one small loophole wherein agencies themselves can sell stuff so a trickle or civilian legal AP rounds have appeared but for like $50-100 per ROUND or something utterly moronic like that. That's how a few have been tested in youtube and the like.

    A civilian legal enhanced penetration round would be a challenging but interesting product.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

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    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

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