I'm no expert but for the most part plates come in either ceramic or steel. Avoid steel it's useless. ceramic probably does not degrade if you store it away from sunlight and don't abuse it but I haven't done much research. Ceramic is going to be much better then steel in every way, the biggest difference in terms of protection is that ceramic "catches" bullets while steel plates simply causes the bullet to explode when it hits them, that's why you need a anti spalling coat applied to them.
>what are they made of?
Ceramic strikeface glued to a backer. Backer is usually kevlar or polyethylene, fiberglass if you are RMA.
Most common ceramic is Alumina Oxide due to its extremely low cost and ease of manufacture. Boron Carbide is the lightest and most expensive, close to 50% less dense than alumina, but gets its ass handed to it under hypervelocity impacts OR high load scenarios like tungsten carbide hits, its no silver bullet till inexpensive doping strategies can mitigate its fragility.
Silicon Carbide is the middle child cost/weight wise, nowadays only about triple aluminas cost, while providing marked density reductions and better damage tolerance against tungsten rounds.
There are a metric shitload of minor variants that Im not gonna sperg about but thats the lay of the land.
>I've seen shelf life of ceramic plates mentioned before. What exactly degrades in the plate?
Provided the plate isnt using something like Zylon, and provided its stored in reasonable conditions, first thing liable to go is shitty glue. I have an XSAPI that basically separated out due to a shit batch of glue. If the glue doesnt suck, expect a properly stored plate to be an heirloom you can give your grandchildren, expiration is a complete meme if you arent a trogolodyte with your gear.
lmao. Go home, Apex, you're drunk
Basically, "Apex" is full of shit and unironically recommends the most shit-tier armor plates (RMA 1155 single curve) because he gets a kickback from them. Nothing he ever wrote is original and he is known to plagiarize from other sources without attribution. Like /bag/ for instance.
Hey frickface, dude is looking for info. It doesnt matter if the info is stolen or what fricking ever info is info and that fricker has it so im telling him to go steal it from him if you will. Notice you didn't provide shit but talk shit fricking thanks for nothing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Hi John. You asiatic homosexual.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Lol rent free huh. Feel free to suggest alternate sources of body armor knowledge. homosexual.
1 year ago
Anonymous
John, why do you recommend RMA? Is it just the money? Also, have you apologized to Hesco yet?
1 year ago
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Me, for one. I have no reputation to maintain, and no conflicts of interest besides selling sets of plates I am not using. Or, the archives here are a treasure-trove of useful information. Or, self directed study of the field from the ground-up reading research papers from the last 60 years. Plenty of options rather than "shut down your brain, slurp the reddit advice teat and go back to sleep".
In line with that, frick most armor makers on the planet, most are making plates qualitatively worse than their counterparts 20 years ago. Cercom was selling a 5.2lb boron carbide IV for 850 back in 2004 through Diamondback tactical. Cercom was also selling 4lb SAPIs explicitly 10-hit rated at a 1" shot spacing
1 year ago
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The Reddit advice is objectively shit and usually plagiarized from here, anyway. Sometimes word-for-word. It's absolutely pathetic, and that "John Sun" homosexual has literally zero integrity.
1 year ago
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Is the info he israelited legit or not though?
1 year ago
Anonymous
There are a million better sources for the same info. And you can also ask your questions here. Frick that plagiarist/shill piece of shit.
>"3+ ceramic" is a fricking all-poly plate (decent weight tho)
>"3++" only rated to stop M855
I think the other guy is right that they are rebranded Hescos, so they are fine for what they are specc'ed for. I think they are taking liberties with calling that RF2 plate a III++ as thats what I would call a BZ-API or M61 plate.
Agolite is an Israeli company so take of that information what you will
>"3+ ceramic" is a fricking all-poly plate (decent weight tho)
>"3++" only rated to stop M855
I think the other guy is right that they are rebranded Hescos, so they are fine for what they are specc'ed for. I think they are taking liberties with calling that RF2 plate a III++ as thats what I would call a BZ-API or M61 plate.
Sort of a moronic question, but are shooter/swimmer plates arguably better than sapi plates for civilians, primarily due to the increased mobility in the shoulders?
Its down to personal preference which cut you prefer, I haven't really noticed much difference in shoulder mobility between the two cuts.
The main thing to watch out for with shooters cut is some companies give you a really cope cut to crow about their "10x12" weight. Highcoms shooter-cut 4s17m is an entire pound lighter than the Sapi M cut. Check out this homosexual cut in pic related, its hilarious. Not an issue if you aren't looking on the commercial market, but something to bear in mind.
A proper Swimmer cut shouldn't really have a narrower top edge than a SAPI cut, just a steeper shoulder angle
Cause I'm a moron and just threw the mags in the APC for the pic lol. The utility pouch on the JPC is for my NODs and the JSTA is for snacks when larping
Does anyone have this? I don't know how to adjust it properly and it feels like it isn't doing anything at all to lift the front plate bag off my chest. Is there a limit as to how heavy the front has to be?
Gorkas are fine if you treat them with a proper repellent like nikwax, but are far from the best option compared to a softshell or level 5 system. Cotton soaks in water really badly and freezes.
Well, do you know any alternatives to a gorka then? Again: I'm traveling across Canada, so I'll need something good to withstand virtually all elements.
Nice
Nocturn Industries just dropped the DAISHO bridge monday. Ill be ordering it soon after seeing some reviews. Ive got two tantos so I have been waiting a WHILE.
>4k MINIMUM
Ehhh you can get a great 14 for around $2500-3000. Like an elbit xlsh. I mean I took this through my $3000 pvs14 with an elbit xlsh I paid under $3000 for.
Another 1k always has to come at the cost of something else, since 99.99% of people who are into this don't have frick you money. It's not like Elbit tubes are bad, they're very modern Gen 3 devices with slightly lower specs than L3 tubes. Spending another 1.5k for only moderate benefit will always come at the cost of something else you'll need.
I'm looking for a rest for my guns when I'm cleaning / inspecting them on my work bench and I would like something like this from metro Exodus, it would let you tilt and rotate the rifle around instead of it being stuck in one place. Does anyone know of something that will work in a similiar way? Best I could find are some gun vices
mystery ranch makes the best backpacks in all the categories:
>EDC
2dap
>assault pack
3dap/komodo dragon
>ruck
SATL/beartooth 80
>big sustainment ruck
6500
for the assault pack category they have high prices, but for the big ruck category all packs are expensive so there's not much of an opportunity cost, anyway in general they're more expensive yes
I thin military surplus is a good option. Used US Army ACU pattern packs and gear is very cheap because no one likes the ACU camouflage. I bought some textile dye from Hobby Lobby for $5 and dyed the gear I bought.
The ACU pattern dyed dark green works great in Appalachistan.
i think you can get away with just 2, a big 3dap and a giga ruck, if you fill them less just sinch them down.
I'd also add an EDC pack that's separate for the fact that it's easier to manage but otherwise you can just do 2.
for example I got a 6500 but you can compress and close the sleeping bag compartment and it becomes a SATL basically.
but since I'm a pack consoomer I was thinking about buying a mid ruck, i just cant decide which, I like the satl, but the ones i find are old gen and have the small chip belt, that concerns me as it seems it may be shit at load bearing, unless you buy a new gen from varuste but it's too expensive , otherwise there's the beartooth 80 which is a very good general purpose pack and has a cool design with the 270 zipper, but it's super expensive too so I might wait a bit before buying. I also like the kifaru 357.
has anyone tried the old gen satl? is the small belt really a problem?
btw my 6500 is old gen and has the internal frame instead of the external pike the new gen, is there much of a difference.
I understand that the cut is slightly different, but how different? I want something that won't be tight in the dick and ass while I'm hiking in the field etc and I dont really care about knee pads.
About 1/2 way done building out the AOR1 h-harness, finding a matching map pack has been elusive. My buttpack came in and I noticed the coloring is a lot less warm than the harness itself. DOM on the buttpack is ‘07 (along with most of the pouches) whereas the rig was made in 2013, everything is Eagle.
Is this just a byproduct of variations in manufacturing over the years? Or did they deliberately play with the colors as production went on? Doesn’t bother me at all, just curious on the history.
aor1 is homosexual
GBRS are gays Y?N? Both in terms of products and media
About 1/2 way done building out the AOR1 h-harness, finding a matching map pack has been elusive. My buttpack came in and I noticed the coloring is a lot less warm than the harness itself. DOM on the buttpack is ‘07 (along with most of the pouches) whereas the rig was made in 2013, everything is Eagle.
Is this just a byproduct of variations in manufacturing over the years? Or did they deliberately play with the colors as production went on? Doesn’t bother me at all, just curious on the history.
There's definitely some variation to AOR1 depending on when it was produced, plus if it's used or stored in the open it will fade eventually. I wouldn't worry about it.
the kneepads make a world of difference
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huge gays on all fronts
>aor1 is homosexual
It's nice as long as you're not role playing as a SEAL. It's AORfun but there's also BaeOR2 for more practical camo outside of a desert.
Why are most geargays absolute fricking autistic cringelords?
Like, I see dudes out here running super duper lightweight setups because "they're gonna be in the field for 20-40 hours" or some shit
Oh now I get it
Maybe I'll get some loose "totally not lycra" ""tactical"" wear for the range then, usually I just go for plainclothes styles like jeans and shit
>running super duper lightweight setups
How light we talking? There's validity to lightweight plate carriers and belts since sustainment and such should be in a pack
In all my time in the army (I joined in 2013), I have never once seen someone wear the deltoid protectors or crotch flap, even deployed to the sandbox. I've only worn the crotch flap when doing FTX's in places with cactus. The only extra bits I've seen someone wear was a cherry officer wearing the neck flap and tramp stamp protector, and we bullied him into removing those.
See but in actual boot shit where you're doing 4 hour foot patrols with a combat load, that extra stuff is patently moronic
I'm talking for the civvies who wanna play army at the range
Even if you do urban exploration with your funs and gear, you're much more likely to get tetanus from a bare nail than catch a bullet. My anger is directed towards those wannabes who act like they're in or are still in, when civvies have entirely different operating requirements
Honestly we should have worn every piece, seeing as how soft armor is mainly in response to shrapnel and explosives were a much higher threat in theater to us, but man frick it was too hot for that shit. Even though we were mounted (broke dick humvee AC almost never worked too). Took a good amount of fire but none of us were ever hurt.
Should wear it normally too, given the amount of artillery and stuff you'd see in LSCO, but I'd probably only wear it in trenches (and I pray I never have to do trench warfare)
See but in actual boot shit where you're doing 4 hour foot patrols with a combat load, that extra stuff is patently moronic
I'm talking for the civvies who wanna play army at the range
Even if you do urban exploration with your funs and gear, you're much more likely to get tetanus from a bare nail than catch a bullet. My anger is directed towards those wannabes who act like they're in or are still in, when civvies have entirely different operating requirements
Fair enough, I feel not a lot of people understand what's important to know in order:
1.) Defend a structure/area (house, land, etc.)
2.) Shoot and maneuver in a vehicle/Evasive driving
3.) Protection and sustainment when having to move on foot (guaranteed death for most people)
Anyone got any tips for bringing a P83 chest rig to a local tailor for modification? They've altered pants and stuff for me before but they barely speak English. Should I provide technical drawings with what I want?
Better yet does anyone have recommendations for someone that will modify a P83 chest rig online? > H harness >replace GP pouches with molle >Sew in hook and loop between rear admin pocket and chest rig for dangler
online might be a better bet, or finding a local tailor that speaks better english. I'm not a sewing machine autist but there might be specific shit that they need on the machine
I've discovered a lot of really small gear makers via Instagram. Some of these guys are making really nice stuff, and they're often open to letting you request certain customizations and tailor made stuff. You might have to wait a month or two for them to make it, but I find that preferable to playing the old "which product from which company meets the requirements I have for X piece of gear I need" game.
What do you guys put on the dominant side on the cummerbund of your plate carrier?
I'm wondering if I should put a small admin pouch there or leave it naked
I use an elastic cummerbund with magazine cells. On my dominant side, I tend to stuff small cases or bags with tools and other odds and ends. Stuff like a range kit with a small bottle of lube, bore snake, microfiber clothes, etc. Also my "boo-boo" kit with mundane medical stuff like band-aids and eye drops since my eyes get dry in certain conditions.
If you mount a GP/admin pouch on your dominant side, make sure it's low profile enough so that your arm isn't constantly making contact with it. That gets annoying.
>I tend to stuff small cases or bags with tools and other odds and ends
That's what I was thinking, leathermen, etc
I was thinking maybe cleaning stuff like lube but would it be better ot put that in a pack I can easily access?
I guess it depends on what you want to carry on-body. I don't put a lot of stuff on my chest rigs or PC since I'm not doing recon type stuff or whatever. I tend to keep stuff like a multitool, batteries, chemlights and my headlamp in small cases stuffed into elastic cells or pouches.
I do have a chest rig with an HSGI Mini MAP V2 mounted onto the front of an Unobtanium SLEDS placard. It's a pretty nifty GP pouch, and the only one I could find that mounts using 5 MOLLE columns, since that's what the SLEDS provides. I'm typically not a fan of mounting pouches onto the front of placards since a lot of them are pretty deep and add to the overall thickness of the rig up front. I like to keep my setups as slim as possible, which is why I typically prefer storing stuff on my sides.
I know here we’re almost all larpers but I find airsoft guys very cringe, the main reason is they buy gear just to be lookalikes of real units instead of utility, and they dress up with American flags and unit patches and shit even tho they’re not American (at least where I am), and they don’t know shit about small unit tactics and gear, in fact they often have stuff set up in absurd ways.
Anyway whatever I’m not mad at them they can do whatever but I find them cringe
Every hobby including airsoft starts off "just for fun" until people get caught up buying tons of bullshit, terrified at every turn what people will think of them for it, and then of course have to defend their choices vehemently against the slightest criticism.
Sound familiar?
>terrified what people think
Why would one care?
Plus I don’t tell people about my interests because I know they’re not muh socially acceptable (guns, gear, military tactics and strategy, vehicles, logistics and operations etc), especially at work, I only do that if I get a feel that the person is the right type, but anyway I never found anyone that was actually interested in this stuff, at most they owned guns but they were fudd tier mentality even if young, like muh cops should shoot him in the hands to make him drop the pistol
There are cringe airsofters out there but your median milsimer is far better for actual combat than most of the Instagram range drill fans, because at least they have some practice with maneuvering and communicating.
I've never seen milsimgays do any kind of worthwhile maneuvering, every video I've seen is them doing shit that would get them killed irl. If any of my soldiers showed me that and said it looked good I'd haze them into oblivion.
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They are absolutely idiots when Maxpedition is having bogo pocket bags.
Maxpedition is also shit
What balaclava that looks similar to pic related?
balaclava is balaclava bro they're not that different and nobody is going to care about a slight difference for your shitty cosplay
>Maxpedition is also shit
I have found every Maxpedition sample superior to every Condor sample I own. You have no credibility if you are just regurgitating negativity without hands-on experience. But I think we are all to familiar with that behavior on /k/. But sure, buy your $50 mesh panty baggie.
Maxpedition dump pouches are absolute brick shit houses compared to the fricking flaming blue falcon gear dump pouches that feel like they're made of cheap womens underwear.
>I have found every Maxpedition sample superior to every Condor sample I own >this turd is less stinky than this other turd
dont buy condor or maxpedition moron >You have no credibility if you are just regurgitating negativity without hands-on experience
used to have one and it shit the bed after a week in the field
Maxpedition dump pouches are absolute brick shit houses compared to the fricking flaming blue falcon gear dump pouches that feel like they're made of cheap womens underwear.
I do want to get the lads together and just use airshit with our regular gear, but it's proving difficult to get a good number of adults to 1: have free time that all lines up
2: have the same training based mentality for it
Like, yes, we are out here for fun, but we are also out here to practice shooting eachother.
Multicam doesn't really work where I live during the warmer months, too much tan that it sticks out too much. Wish OCP/Scorpion or whatever it's called was more prevalent as it would be perfect imo
Damn, almost up to three gorillion fake reviews.
The latest version of the 6094, which is a carrier widely used by SOCOM and other SOF operatives, has... 9 reviews.
https://lbtinc.com/products/6094g3
Agilite are so obviously scummy, it's unreal.
I own one. The feature list is pretty nice. But its kinda heavy, holds water like a sponge. It also retains heat pretty bad. I mean if you're looking for a fall/ winter JPC I'd say it's pretty good.
Want to buy a slim chest rig a la dank robber or dino boy for range use. Any other suggestions or should i just flip a coin. Im considering the haley so i can have it take ak mags too but i'd like to keep it minimalist and slim. Tyia
What are your thoughts on the LBT 6094/lbx 0300? From everything I have gathered while it's heavier than say a JPC or the FCPC 5, it supposedly is bombproof and good at carrying weight.
I intend to run 6-10 rifle mags, ifak, a 3L camelbak, comms, and possibly a small back mounted pack panel as well. I'm not sure of the lighter carriers are ideal for that sort of load. As it is I already have a Ferro slickster I run with LBE if I want something lighter and more breathable
Have both.
6094 and the LBX 0300 have similar/identical platebag cuts. The cummerbund on the LBX 0300 is super floppy, doesn't have accommodations for side plates, soft armor, or a 152. Also, no kangaroo pouch. Most noticable difference is the lack of rigidity in the cummerbund, as noted, which worsens it's load-bearing capability. Shoulder pads and stitching seem identical. With what you intend the carry, go 6094.
I see. So the cummerbund is what makes the difference in terms of how the load sits, and not so much the shoulder straps (beyond just width and padding ofc)? I've seen many claim the 3AC from Ferro is top notch in that regard.
That sounds heavy. Get the lbt 6094 its what a tank like you needs. Its only "oldschool/antiquated" if youre a trend hopping micro rig 3 mags only fanboy.
So the micro rigs are worse for heavy weight overall?
The stiffer cummerbund helps transfers weight to the hips which makes it more comfortable. The 0300 isn't bad by any means and I prefer it over insta-tier "minimalist" carriers. I generally just just it as a fitness vest. Makes my back hurt after bit with 20 lbs plates.
Imagine making a cummerbund out of floss compared to chain. Chain will transfer the weight better instead of flopping about.
Thanks man, you've been a good help. It's hard to get that sort of info without firsthand experience and this stuff gets expensive fricking fast when you don't know what to buy. Not sure what you meant by "I use an lbx for fitness because it hurts my back after a while" but the rest made a lot of sense. Cheers
No problem. Been at this for awhile and I get sick of hostile posts shitting up the thread without spreading knowledge. I like a comfy /gq/.
I wore an IBA on my first deployment, so all the shit is gucci and most of the "you'll die without the latest nylon" is just consumerist parroting.
Eagle MBAV used to be a steal on eBay for $100 and is still a great PC, although prices are up. CIRAS was originally built and used by SOCOM (particularly NSW/SBT). Not a bad carrier and I was impressed the first time I was issued it. Small boat units are still using it in some places. If you aren't interested in a full BALCS-cut soft armor wrap (you likely aren't), won't be what you want. It's not trash, though.
A workout can last like 45 minutes maybe an hour, real use or a range day can last several hours.
Yup, exactly. The 0300 works fine, but I'd keep it light. It's ostensibly an "airsoft" carrier but is keeping the two 10 lbs steel plates in place just fine. If you wanted something to drop in two 5-6 lbs ballistic plates, a row of mags, and a TQ? Ok. You'll appreciate the stiffer cummerbund of the 6094 if you expect to be in kit longer than an hour or two.
I have a ton of both LBT and LBX stuff. Some things I wouldn't bother buying LBT (blowout pouch). Some things have a large delta in design (6094/0300). I will say, I've had zero QA problems with LBX, but a few with LBT. They'll make it right if you contact them.
1 year ago
Anonymous
For what it's worth the first carrier I had was a surplus ACU IBA (didn't know better). I dyed it green, got some cheap acu pouches to boot. Only to realize it bounced around like a Hooters waitress's rack when running and was utterly unbearable in summer.
Here in leaf land a 0300 is about 250 to 300 our money (sold locally) and an 6094 is about a grand with exchange rate (import only). I'm honestly half tempted to by an 0300 and just swap out the cummerbund for something more rigid like one of the fcpc's rigid cummerbund. That'd still be less than half the price. It's basically the same plate bags minus the velcro for soft armour and the kangaroo pouch.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh, the IBA is actually trash. Pretty much everything that came after it is decent enough (except IOTV).
So... for that many leafbucks, I'd get the 0300. The 6094 is better, but not 700 whatever dollarydoos better. If you can get a decent velcro cummerbund you'll be set.
That sounds heavy. Get the lbt 6094 its what a tank like you needs. Its only "oldschool/antiquated" if youre a trend hopping micro rig 3 mags only fanboy.
>kit this thing out /gq/ >no I won't tell you anything else or even what guns I own
Cover it in grenade pouches to store heated pool balls in that you can insert into your anus.
Now you're just being weird. I own guns that take mags, I like water and seeing in the dark with lights and cutting things with a knife and carrying a smoke grenade for signaling extraction. See? You are superfluous, but compassionate me, I was trying to give you a feeling of self worth and inclusion. What a wasted moment for you.
Not him, but does it matter? I figure he was fishing for suggestions for general layout, not specific brands of pouch.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>does it matter
No. Seriously, if someone has a specific mag they will select ak, ar or man size. Where a Blackhawk radio pouch may be better than USGI surp does matter.
1 year ago
Anonymous
It matters for general layout, without even getting into brands. If you have an AK, but buy AR mag pouches, they're not going to fit, and you're shit out of luck. Even cartridge size can determine layout.
He likes water, great. Canteens or camelback? or just water bottles? Different methods of carrying each one, and that impacts setup and pouches.
Being specific with what you have and what your needs are is very important so you dont wind up with a setup unfit for you.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>If you have an AK, but buy AR mag pouches, they're not going to fit,
Venture Surplus video w/Lucas shows this flat wrong. Did you even try it before making blanket statements?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Venture Surplus video w/Lucas shows this flat wrong
What?
And yes guy, I can assure you that AK mags do not fit in AR pouches. The only exception I have found is that a single AK mag will fit in a USGI double mag pouch.
Try putting 2 AK mags in an esstac double mag made for AR mags.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I can assure you that AK mags do not fit in AR pouches >a single AK mag will fit in a USGI double mag pouch
Why do I bother when you contradict yourself? It's hilarious.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I stated that there was a single exception, and it's not very good when you have to used a double mag pouch to fit a single mag. That's fricking moronic, and you're a contrarian homosexual.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>contradicts self >you are a contrarian
What ev, stay mad homosexual. Your rant started because I said people would know what mag pouches to get and you didn't accept that.
1 year ago
Anonymous
THE EXCEPTION DOES NOT MAKE THE RULE YOU FRICKING IMBECILE
If you want cheap Propper is an actual .mil supplier of uniforms so at least they won't spontaneously self -disassemble due to chink QC standards. Or just buy a good heavy-duty pair of jeans/khakis in a somewhat baggy cut
My cammies were hot fricking garbage when I was in. Crotch tears, popped belt loops, and pretty much every button has to be sewn back on at least once before it would stay permanently.
bros, what is the most stereotypical operator boot? I've narrowed it down to either the Lowa Zephyr or Salomon Forces, but there are like six different models of Salomon Forces it could be.
The Salomon 4D Quest boot has been "le operator shoe" for the last decade.
Lowa Zephyr became pretty popular in militaries which still required a boot with their uniform.
Not him, but it does really depend on how light you move/camp, and the season. I've done 4 day backpacking trips in summer with only a 30L assault pack, but I would definitely need more in winter
Looking at battle belts. Have it between the 5.11 Maverick and the G-Code Contact Series Operator.
What's the purpose/function of the d-ring on the front just to the side of the cobra buckle on some belts? is it just to give that last bit of tightness/fit?
The 5.11 doesn't have and it's an option on the G-Code. Just curious if there was any pro's to the d-ring that make it a go-to, must have option to sway my decision.
Sort of a moronic question, but are shooter/swimmer plates arguably better than sapi plates for civilians, primarily due to the increased mobility in the shoulders?
Dumb fricking question from me, but I'll dare asking it anyway: Why did you go for this piece of canvas instead of the US style polymer one? It's lighter, doesn't need to be impregnated to repell water, and is easier to find. I ask because it's weird that you westerners bought them all from down here for some reason and they get stupidly pricey for what is a straigh up downgrade from a cheaper and more modern thing.
Dumb fricking question from me, but I'll dare asking it anyway: Why did you go for this piece of canvas instead of the US style polymer one? It's lighter, doesn't need to be impregnated to repell water, and is easier to find. I ask because it's weird that you westerners bought them all from down here for some reason and they get stupidly pricey for what is a straigh up downgrade from a cheaper and more modern thing.
Style and remember this is larpfashion not go-to-war gear.
Fashionistas don't have to be concerned with soldiers load because they're not soldiers. For street wear a bath of Scotchgard (works great, I used to use two cans on my M-65 field jackets I wore oversize for the three liners I could layer inside) would make it acceptably waterproof.
I was thinking they were outdoor research but I didn't see anything on their site (at least when I looked) that resembled these. Unless he got something they're prototyping.
They're OR. Appears to be the USGI nomex gloves that replaced the flyers. https://www.ebay.com/itm/394588141561?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=AtZq7wprTNu&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=xggkmTl8Q8-&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Is there a placard/PC mag pouch list?
I’m trying to decide between a 3 mag setup and being able to carry more. It seems like for civil unrest the 3mag placards are plenty, but for hard use it seems like I’m gonna want more mags. I just want a general use carrier. What are y’all’s thought? What about placard vs just a bunch of mag pouches?Is there a list?
always lean on the side of more mags, nobody ever regretted having more ammo in a gunfight, but plenty of dead dudes didn't have enough
Oh, the IBA is actually trash. Pretty much everything that came after it is decent enough (except IOTV).
So... for that many leafbucks, I'd get the 0300. The 6094 is better, but not 700 whatever dollarydoos better. If you can get a decent velcro cummerbund you'll be set.
iotv gen 4 isnt terrible for what it is (but I would still take plate carrier all day every day over it)
LBT constantly runs 50% off sales so you can get them for cheaper, but honestly LBT has been slipping on quality lately
New wardrobe
Yes I'm autistic and desire to wear the same thing every day
>3XL >44x32
When the government moves to ban bodyarmor the only possible reason is they want you to be easier to kill
all gun control is designed to apply to muh mass shooters despite the fact that they're all suicidal and usually plan out their attacks long in advance.
this isnt mature lmao. youre gonna look like those 40 something guys with oakleys and caps with velcro panels on them. a walking 5.11 commercial. cringe.
not from america either, i see dudes like that all the time. i bet 95% dont even own guns which makes it even more cringe. dress like a normal person, keep the tacticool shit for your range dressup session. or at least terrorwave it. never go full tacticool moron.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Is there anywhere in Europe that's best for buying gear (within EU). I'm struggling to find a decent IFAK pouch among other things. All the gear I have has been put together piecemeal from second hand buys. I have a lot of warrior assault stuff which seems decent, but any advice would be sweet.
Or just tell me to frick off if you want, that's fair I just saw your post was recent.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Perunika.org has some ok stuff, they just started stocking Agilite (oy vey). Honestly you're kinda stuck with Direct Action or importing from the USA for the most part. Most of my stuff (its not much because I dont play dressup, I just have the bare minimum needed for training) is made by Direct Action and its pretty good.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Thanks, already more helpful than the abject homosexuals on reddit (but that's on me for going there).
I'm much in the same boat, need a small amount of stuff, I'm not interested in LARPing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
UFPRO and CZ 4M are decent alternatives to american made clothing if you are in need of clothes. Dont be afraid of Tasmanian Tiger either, most of their gear is perfectly ok.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Thanks, have a uf pro delta 2 jacket for day to day wear and its pretty good, very warm, although it's broken a zipper which annoyed me.
1 year ago
Anonymous
the brits have a very decent surplus ifak pouch for cheap. You can get them on ebay.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Excellent rec, thank you.
1 year ago
Anonymous
if that is not enough get the snigel pouch sale.
while the vest is okay and can be made into a chest rig the set is worth it for the pouches alone:
>terrorwave it
Based. I get so tired of seeing all the "I'm a SOF operator" larp get-ups I see posted on IG (and even here sometimes). What's the point of dressing up like SEALs when shooting at the range? I can't take those guys seriously. I have more respect for airsofters, because at least they know they're playing make-believe.
1 year ago
Anonymous
the only bit of "tactical" clothes i ever wear is a pair of crye pants because the pockets actually come in handy (makeshift dump pouch in left cargo, phone in front thigh pocket etc). otherwise i just shoot in vans and adidas. tacticool multicam shit is beyond cringe.
not from america either, i see dudes like that all the time. i bet 95% dont even own guns which makes it even more cringe. dress like a normal person, keep the tacticool shit for your range dressup session. or at least terrorwave it. never go full tacticool moron.
homosexual foreigners get off my board
1 year ago
Anonymous
i have more guns than you and i can buy suppressors without sucking atf dick. hows that make you feel?
1 year ago
Anonymous
>i have more guns than you
I doubt it
1 year ago
Anonymous
>i have more guns than you
>i have more guns than you
I doubt it
>I doubt it
State numbers, I'm in the mood for a lame dick measuring contest.
>What exactly do you mean
A plate carrier is basically a customizable rig that you can add body armor to
Why would you go for a rig then? They cost about the same
Dedicated gear will always be better than modular jack of all trades designs. I thought the same as you for a while, but using an empty jpc as a chest rig sucks. Either you need plates for what you're doing or you don't and you leave home dressed for the occasion, this notion of scaling up and down on the fly isn't a real circumstance.
>random frag grenade pouch on the far right with no grenade >canteen making the whole rig lopsided >meme spiritus JSTA pouch with an exposed multitool >baofeng
I genuinely don't understand how you can be so colossally ignorant of even the basics of load carriage that you would post this picture in any context other than bait. Literally take everything off this abomination except for the magazine pouches and start again. Water doesn't go on one side of a fricking chest rig and small losable tools don't live exposed on your gear.
Theres basically no redundancy there. Its the appropriate amount of gauze. Those ifaks with one packet of gauze make me laugh and I can instantly tell its a LARPer that never even dealt with a bigger cut much less any sort of real trauma.
I'd probably drop the israeli and NPA (pretty pointless item, just recovery position the victim or at least test the size if it even fits you). Stellar IFAK otherwise.
Tourniquet, cpr and knowing how to use an AED. you can use a shirt for gauze / bandage but carrying a packet of gauze isnt that difficult and comes in handy for a multitude of reasons. Last packet I busted into was to wipe my babies butt.
Any good websites for Asia? Specifically Japan. homosexual pussies on ebay wont sell shit to me because muh ITAR even when the shits not even ITAR. I can even buy holosun on Amazon despite the fact its being made like 3 hours away from me. Fricking morons
i was visiting my girlfriends parents in korea and saw airsoft stores selling official GBRS stuff, Blue Alpha etc. theyre really into it over there. might be worth investigating.
i was visiting my girlfriends parents in korea and saw airsoft stores selling official GBRS stuff, Blue Alpha etc. theyre really into it over there. might be worth investigating.
>can't own guns >land of the free
That said, I really gotta give props to the dude who greased Shinzo Abe. Very clever guy. A real case of "where there's a will, there's a way."
Honestly I think he did it the hard way
I'm sure I could build a decent quality firearm here
Just fly to America, buy a barrel and some springs
Smuggle that into Japan in my luggage (ezy)
Then 3D print the rest
He just overcomplicated the priming system. You can make primers out of strike anywhere matches. You don't need a fancy electronic rig to light black powder on fire.
I need a belt pad thingamajingy that velcros onto a two piece belt and makes it like a over the clothes kinda warbelt, any recommendations? My belt has loop on it so I need hook on the pad. Preferably <$50.
While we're melting down over chest rig setups, are elastic back straps worth it? The ones I'm aware of are made by JTACtical, Tracer Tactical and T.REX Arms. The JTAC and Tracer straps appear to be essentially the same, while the T.REX one has some extra quick adjustability feature.
I don't carry a ton of stuff on my rig, but if these elastic back straps are actually a useful upgrade to keep things nice and tight to my body while still allowing for good freedom of movement, I'll grab one.
Also, since I mentioned Tracer Tactical, does anyone have any experience with their H harness? It looks kind of nice, but I'm not sure it's worth $80. >https://tracer-tactical.com/products/h-harness
I'm thinking the YMi ASH harness would be the better buy for $65. >https://ymitactical.com/products/chest-rig-shoulder-harness-pre-order
If anyone has any experience with this stuff, let me know what you think. I'd rather not ask r/TacticalGear.
If you buy from Defense Mechanisms be sure to use code KINETIC for 10% off.
Of course elastic has a lifespan. That's a given. However, the elastic back straps are only $15. Depending on how long it takes for the elastic to wear out, you could probably buy a few elastic back straps and be set for quite a long time.
Elastic is used in an ton of gear these days. I've not heard anybody complain about its lifespan.
Gonna ask here since /meg/ is dead atm, would a arm fracture resulting in a plate being installed prevent me from going to airborne school/any training?
How tight should your chest rig be? It's tight everywhere but the shoulder straps... Adjustments maxed out already.
personal preference, I like to have mine a little looser so I can put on more layers if I need to and still have the chest rig on over those
Hit the gym
Your shoulders should be the most promiment feature on your body, not your breasts.
Not if I'm on estrogen, anon.
I have a couple of questions about armor plates
>What materials are they made out of?
>I've seen shelf life of ceramic plates mentioned before. What exactly degrades in the plate?
I'm no expert but for the most part plates come in either ceramic or steel. Avoid steel it's useless. ceramic probably does not degrade if you store it away from sunlight and don't abuse it but I haven't done much research. Ceramic is going to be much better then steel in every way, the biggest difference in terms of protection is that ceramic "catches" bullets while steel plates simply causes the bullet to explode when it hits them, that's why you need a anti spalling coat applied to them.
>what are they made of?
Ceramic strikeface glued to a backer. Backer is usually kevlar or polyethylene, fiberglass if you are RMA.
Most common ceramic is Alumina Oxide due to its extremely low cost and ease of manufacture. Boron Carbide is the lightest and most expensive, close to 50% less dense than alumina, but gets its ass handed to it under hypervelocity impacts OR high load scenarios like tungsten carbide hits, its no silver bullet till inexpensive doping strategies can mitigate its fragility.
Silicon Carbide is the middle child cost/weight wise, nowadays only about triple aluminas cost, while providing marked density reductions and better damage tolerance against tungsten rounds.
There are a metric shitload of minor variants that Im not gonna sperg about but thats the lay of the land.
>I've seen shelf life of ceramic plates mentioned before. What exactly degrades in the plate?
Provided the plate isnt using something like Zylon, and provided its stored in reasonable conditions, first thing liable to go is shitty glue. I have an XSAPI that basically separated out due to a shit batch of glue. If the glue doesnt suck, expect a properly stored plate to be an heirloom you can give your grandchildren, expiration is a complete meme if you arent a trogolodyte with your gear.
give some sauce on where to learn the technicals of armor like the stuff you're saying, I already know the basics but want more
Apexarmorsolutions. Google that. Read everything he's written posted or linked on Facebook, reddit, and his website.
lmao. Go home, Apex, you're drunk
Basically, "Apex" is full of shit and unironically recommends the most shit-tier armor plates (RMA 1155 single curve) because he gets a kickback from them. Nothing he ever wrote is original and he is known to plagiarize from other sources without attribution. Like /bag/ for instance.
>Go home, Apex, you're drunk
HELL YEAH
I miss /bag/, they did great research while it was around. Im starting to update the spookplate chart, but it feels like a hollow undertaking nowadays
Hey frickface, dude is looking for info. It doesnt matter if the info is stolen or what fricking ever info is info and that fricker has it so im telling him to go steal it from him if you will. Notice you didn't provide shit but talk shit fricking thanks for nothing.
Hi John. You asiatic homosexual.
Lol rent free huh. Feel free to suggest alternate sources of body armor knowledge. homosexual.
John, why do you recommend RMA? Is it just the money? Also, have you apologized to Hesco yet?
Me, for one. I have no reputation to maintain, and no conflicts of interest besides selling sets of plates I am not using. Or, the archives here are a treasure-trove of useful information. Or, self directed study of the field from the ground-up reading research papers from the last 60 years. Plenty of options rather than "shut down your brain, slurp the reddit advice teat and go back to sleep".
In line with that, frick most armor makers on the planet, most are making plates qualitatively worse than their counterparts 20 years ago. Cercom was selling a 5.2lb boron carbide IV for 850 back in 2004 through Diamondback tactical. Cercom was also selling 4lb SAPIs explicitly 10-hit rated at a 1" shot spacing
The Reddit advice is objectively shit and usually plagiarized from here, anyway. Sometimes word-for-word. It's absolutely pathetic, and that "John Sun" homosexual has literally zero integrity.
Is the info he israelited legit or not though?
There are a million better sources for the same info. And you can also ask your questions here. Frick that plagiarist/shill piece of shit.
What's the Blackbeard ebay store?
This listing is the one.
My man. Thanks.
I was looking at plate carriers from Agilite the other day
Why are their plates so much more expensive than these?
Pic related
>why do israelites israelite people
Those are rebranded Hesco plates with a hefty markup. They're ackshually not bad plates, but you save money by going directly with Hesco.
Agolite is an Israeli company so take of that information what you will
>"3+ ceramic" is a fricking all-poly plate (decent weight tho)
>"3++" only rated to stop M855
I think the other guy is right that they are rebranded Hescos, so they are fine for what they are specc'ed for. I think they are taking liberties with calling that RF2 plate a III++ as thats what I would call a BZ-API or M61 plate.
>"3+ ceramic" is a fricking all-poly plate (decent weight tho)
It's a Hesco 3800. "Ceramic." They're moronic.
>moronic Israelis
repeating yourself bro
Its down to personal preference which cut you prefer, I haven't really noticed much difference in shoulder mobility between the two cuts.
The main thing to watch out for with shooters cut is some companies give you a really cope cut to crow about their "10x12" weight. Highcoms shooter-cut 4s17m is an entire pound lighter than the Sapi M cut. Check out this homosexual cut in pic related, its hilarious. Not an issue if you aren't looking on the commercial market, but something to bear in mind.
A proper Swimmer cut shouldn't really have a narrower top edge than a SAPI cut, just a steeper shoulder angle
Need to take an updated picture. Have field shirts for both set ups now. Plus some more shit for the M81 pc like shoulder pads
Why are your mags facing different directions? Why are there shithuge pouches on your side cumberbunds? What do they contain?
Cause I'm a moron and just threw the mags in the APC for the pic lol. The utility pouch on the JPC is for my NODs and the JSTA is for snacks when larping
moronic larper, not a single cum stain on anything
>two of everything
>even two hydration bladders
>one set of plates
At least go all in paypig
ooooo very nice
This is just dress-up at this point.
Orly?
Does anyone have this? I don't know how to adjust it properly and it feels like it isn't doing anything at all to lift the front plate bag off my chest. Is there a limit as to how heavy the front has to be?
what carrier are you running it in? i use it with a jpc 2.0 and it works great to get weight off shoulders. let me eat bfast and ill get a picture
Why are gorkas bad and why does cotton kill?
Gorkas are fine if you treat them with a proper repellent like nikwax, but are far from the best option compared to a softshell or level 5 system. Cotton soaks in water really badly and freezes.
Well, do you know any alternatives to a gorka then? Again: I'm traveling across Canada, so I'll need something good to withstand virtually all elements.
take your frickin ass to REI or any outdoors store ever
how do you morons not know how to dress to survive outside
How do you accomplish picrel?
Have you never been to the fair homie?
I get that he's doing it one one of those centripetal force rides, I'm just not sure how you would get into a standing position
It's pretty much the same as getting up off the floor.
TRIANGULAR SHAPEDHOLE
They aren't bad they're excellent at what they're designed to do. Which is be a windproof top layer for arid mountain environments.
If you're using them for anything else they're bad tho.
AWS is having a BOGO on their discontinued ACU pouches.
You thought I forgot
I don't see many NV enjoyers here.
What gives?
Nods are a meme, my holosun with thermal is way better
>laughs in retina melting perst-3
Because we're on /nvg/ instead
???
Ok. I got a new mount that just started being made coming to review hopefully it doesn't break.
Nice
Nocturn Industries just dropped the DAISHO bridge monday. Ill be ordering it soon after seeing some reviews. Ive got two tantos so I have been waiting a WHILE.
Fat
Because /nvg/ is less gay and moronic
Need a steal his look meme. Garand thumb always dresses in style.
>be 6'2 250lbs of muscle
>put any clothes on
>look good
What can I get cheaper but still good quality, night vision goggles or a thermal scope?
>cheaper
>NV / Thermal
Don't do that to yourself bro. $4k MINIMUM for a mono NV or therm optic or you will be disappointed.
>4k MINIMUM
Ehhh you can get a great 14 for around $2500-3000. Like an elbit xlsh. I mean I took this through my $3000 pvs14 with an elbit xlsh I paid under $3000 for.
Not saying you're wrong or anything but we can see the giant fricking moon in your image.
Ok but that is a very clean photo through my budget PVS14 you dont need L3 tubes for a 14.
How much does a lap band surgery cost?
Not remotely true, you can get very good options for both for 2500. 4k is only needed for the absolutely best monocular you can buy, with an L3 tube.
Buy once , cry once.
Is another $1k that unobtainable to get the good shit?
Another 1k always has to come at the cost of something else, since 99.99% of people who are into this don't have frick you money. It's not like Elbit tubes are bad, they're very modern Gen 3 devices with slightly lower specs than L3 tubes. Spending another 1.5k for only moderate benefit will always come at the cost of something else you'll need.
Ask on /nvg/, you'll actually get an answer there.
I'm looking for a rest for my guns when I'm cleaning / inspecting them on my work bench and I would like something like this from metro Exodus, it would let you tilt and rotate the rifle around instead of it being stuck in one place. Does anyone know of something that will work in a similiar way? Best I could find are some gun vices
This is probably the dumbest shit I've seen today. What's wrong with tossing it on the table and cleaning it?
If I'm just cleaning it that's fine but I would like to display a gun or just manipulate it easier. A gun rest would work they are just stationary
You're gonna need to shell out for a precision rifle style tripod and mount.
What are you supposed to keep in these behind the back/butt pockets some tacticool jackets have?
pic also related
That's for my boyfriend
Is your boyfriend small enough to fit in one of those?
A map, some papers, string, odds and ends. Maybe some medical supplies.
Cool rocks that you find during movement
correct answer
dead birb or wabbits
They are called poacher pockets
I will leave it at that
My 14 was hand selected....
And ya could have got the best shit available on the civi market for just $1k more...
by normal hands or your fat hands
Your gym membership should be hand selected too.
mystery ranch makes the best backpacks in all the categories:
>EDC
2dap
>assault pack
3dap/komodo dragon
>ruck
SATL/beartooth 80
>big sustainment ruck
6500
for the assault pack category they have high prices, but for the big ruck category all packs are expensive so there's not much of an opportunity cost, anyway in general they're more expensive yes
change my mind
I thin military surplus is a good option. Used US Army ACU pattern packs and gear is very cheap because no one likes the ACU camouflage. I bought some textile dye from Hobby Lobby for $5 and dyed the gear I bought.
The ACU pattern dyed dark green works great in Appalachistan.
I know I had a MOLLE 2 ruck in acu and also an ILBE main, I sold them both for a prooofit and bought the 6500
i think you can get away with just 2, a big 3dap and a giga ruck, if you fill them less just sinch them down.
I'd also add an EDC pack that's separate for the fact that it's easier to manage but otherwise you can just do 2.
for example I got a 6500 but you can compress and close the sleeping bag compartment and it becomes a SATL basically.
but since I'm a pack consoomer I was thinking about buying a mid ruck, i just cant decide which, I like the satl, but the ones i find are old gen and have the small chip belt, that concerns me as it seems it may be shit at load bearing, unless you buy a new gen from varuste but it's too expensive , otherwise there's the beartooth 80 which is a very good general purpose pack and has a cool design with the 270 zipper, but it's super expensive too so I might wait a bit before buying. I also like the kifaru 357.
has anyone tried the old gen satl? is the small belt really a problem?
btw my 6500 is old gen and has the internal frame instead of the external pike the new gen, is there much of a difference.
None of those are Hill People Gear so none of them can be the best
is HPG IR compliant?
Yes, just tested it
Thanks, which color?
The ranger green + khaki one
Their stuff is generally made with actual 500D Cordura so I'd say so
Crye combat pants or field pants?
(Or UF Pro?)
I understand that the cut is slightly different, but how different? I want something that won't be tight in the dick and ass while I'm hiking in the field etc and I dont really care about knee pads.
just get the combats and tuck the knee pad entirely in the pocket so they don't catch and rip out as easily
I like exposed knee pads because it's easier to replace worn out knee pads than wearing a hole through the fabric of internal knee pads
the kneepads make a world of difference
aor1 is homosexual
huge gays on all fronts
About 1/2 way done building out the AOR1 h-harness, finding a matching map pack has been elusive. My buttpack came in and I noticed the coloring is a lot less warm than the harness itself. DOM on the buttpack is ‘07 (along with most of the pouches) whereas the rig was made in 2013, everything is Eagle.
Is this just a byproduct of variations in manufacturing over the years? Or did they deliberately play with the colors as production went on? Doesn’t bother me at all, just curious on the history.
There's definitely some variation to AOR1 depending on when it was produced, plus if it's used or stored in the open it will fade eventually. I wouldn't worry about it.
>aor1 is homosexual
It's nice as long as you're not role playing as a SEAL. It's AORfun but there's also BaeOR2 for more practical camo outside of a desert.
I made one of these too but didn't get the butt pack
GBRS are gays Y?N? Both in terms of products and media
Y
gigagays
Very homosexual, but if you want one of their products, Chang has your back.
Why are most geargays absolute fricking autistic cringelords?
Like, I see dudes out here running super duper lightweight setups because "they're gonna be in the field for 20-40 hours" or some shit
It's just fashion anon. Hansel, so hot right now. Hanseeel.
Oh now I get it
Maybe I'll get some loose "totally not lycra" ""tactical"" wear for the range then, usually I just go for plainclothes styles like jeans and shit
>Why are people on PrepHole absolute fricking autistic cringelords?
gee bud wonder why
>running super duper lightweight setups
How light we talking? There's validity to lightweight plate carriers and belts since sustainment and such should be in a pack
Mainly just hearing people shit talk crotch and deltoid protection because apparently everyone hikes 30 miles a day in their plate carrier
In all my time in the army (I joined in 2013), I have never once seen someone wear the deltoid protectors or crotch flap, even deployed to the sandbox. I've only worn the crotch flap when doing FTX's in places with cactus. The only extra bits I've seen someone wear was a cherry officer wearing the neck flap and tramp stamp protector, and we bullied him into removing those.
See but in actual boot shit where you're doing 4 hour foot patrols with a combat load, that extra stuff is patently moronic
I'm talking for the civvies who wanna play army at the range
Even if you do urban exploration with your funs and gear, you're much more likely to get tetanus from a bare nail than catch a bullet. My anger is directed towards those wannabes who act like they're in or are still in, when civvies have entirely different operating requirements
Honestly we should have worn every piece, seeing as how soft armor is mainly in response to shrapnel and explosives were a much higher threat in theater to us, but man frick it was too hot for that shit. Even though we were mounted (broke dick humvee AC almost never worked too). Took a good amount of fire but none of us were ever hurt.
Should wear it normally too, given the amount of artillery and stuff you'd see in LSCO, but I'd probably only wear it in trenches (and I pray I never have to do trench warfare)
Fair enough, I feel not a lot of people understand what's important to know in order:
1.) Defend a structure/area (house, land, etc.)
2.) Shoot and maneuver in a vehicle/Evasive driving
3.) Protection and sustainment when having to move on foot (guaranteed death for most people)
Anyone got any tips for bringing a P83 chest rig to a local tailor for modification? They've altered pants and stuff for me before but they barely speak English. Should I provide technical drawings with what I want?
Better yet does anyone have recommendations for someone that will modify a P83 chest rig online?
> H harness
>replace GP pouches with molle
>Sew in hook and loop between rear admin pocket and chest rig for dangler
online might be a better bet, or finding a local tailor that speaks better english. I'm not a sewing machine autist but there might be specific shit that they need on the machine
I've discovered a lot of really small gear makers via Instagram. Some of these guys are making really nice stuff, and they're often open to letting you request certain customizations and tailor made stuff. You might have to wait a month or two for them to make it, but I find that preferable to playing the old "which product from which company meets the requirements I have for X piece of gear I need" game.
What do you guys put on the dominant side on the cummerbund of your plate carrier?
I'm wondering if I should put a small admin pouch there or leave it naked
I use an elastic cummerbund with magazine cells. On my dominant side, I tend to stuff small cases or bags with tools and other odds and ends. Stuff like a range kit with a small bottle of lube, bore snake, microfiber clothes, etc. Also my "boo-boo" kit with mundane medical stuff like band-aids and eye drops since my eyes get dry in certain conditions.
If you mount a GP/admin pouch on your dominant side, make sure it's low profile enough so that your arm isn't constantly making contact with it. That gets annoying.
>I tend to stuff small cases or bags with tools and other odds and ends
That's what I was thinking, leathermen, etc
I was thinking maybe cleaning stuff like lube but would it be better ot put that in a pack I can easily access?
I guess it depends on what you want to carry on-body. I don't put a lot of stuff on my chest rigs or PC since I'm not doing recon type stuff or whatever. I tend to keep stuff like a multitool, batteries, chemlights and my headlamp in small cases stuffed into elastic cells or pouches.
I do have a chest rig with an HSGI Mini MAP V2 mounted onto the front of an Unobtanium SLEDS placard. It's a pretty nifty GP pouch, and the only one I could find that mounts using 5 MOLLE columns, since that's what the SLEDS provides. I'm typically not a fan of mounting pouches onto the front of placards since a lot of them are pretty deep and add to the overall thickness of the rig up front. I like to keep my setups as slim as possible, which is why I typically prefer storing stuff on my sides.
What are some good organizational pouches to put inside my ruck?
That’s what I’d use them for:
>spare socks
Osprey dry bag 3L
>spare clothes (spare base shirt mainly)
Same bag as the socks
>hygene kit
Helicon Tex small med pouch seems good, otherwise kifaru 500d pull out bag
>first aid kit
Same as hygiene kit
>water filter and dirty water bag
Mesh bag
>food
Idk, a big cordura bag or a waterproof bag
>small stuff like ferro rod lighter tape etc
Magpul daka see through or another kifaru cordura bag
>empty mesh bag
To hang stuff to dry either in my pack or at camp
Defense Mechanisms sells a mesh organizer bag. >https://defensemechanisms.com/mesh-organizer-bag/
$50 for a little mesh bag are you out of your fricking mind
Lbx has really nice organizers that are more worth the money. Look at the titan pack organizer sacks.
I wasn't the guy asking but thanks anyways.
I've been a long time LBT simp but lately I've found that their quality has taken a nosedive
They are absolutely idiots when Maxpedition is having bogo pocket bags.
I know here we’re almost all larpers but I find airsoft guys very cringe, the main reason is they buy gear just to be lookalikes of real units instead of utility, and they dress up with American flags and unit patches and shit even tho they’re not American (at least where I am), and they don’t know shit about small unit tactics and gear, in fact they often have stuff set up in absurd ways.
Anyway whatever I’m not mad at them they can do whatever but I find them cringe
Every hobby including airsoft starts off "just for fun" until people get caught up buying tons of bullshit, terrified at every turn what people will think of them for it, and then of course have to defend their choices vehemently against the slightest criticism.
Sound familiar?
>terrified what people think
Why would one care?
Plus I don’t tell people about my interests because I know they’re not muh socially acceptable (guns, gear, military tactics and strategy, vehicles, logistics and operations etc), especially at work, I only do that if I get a feel that the person is the right type, but anyway I never found anyone that was actually interested in this stuff, at most they owned guns but they were fudd tier mentality even if young, like muh cops should shoot him in the hands to make him drop the pistol
This is why I larp as an insurgent, im barely qualified to act as such
There are cringe airsofters out there but your median milsimer is far better for actual combat than most of the Instagram range drill fans, because at least they have some practice with maneuvering and communicating.
I've never seen milsimgays do any kind of worthwhile maneuvering, every video I've seen is them doing shit that would get them killed irl. If any of my soldiers showed me that and said it looked good I'd haze them into oblivion.
Maxpedition is also shit
balaclava is balaclava bro they're not that different and nobody is going to care about a slight difference for your shitty cosplay
>Maxpedition is also shit
I have found every Maxpedition sample superior to every Condor sample I own. You have no credibility if you are just regurgitating negativity without hands-on experience. But I think we are all to familiar with that behavior on /k/. But sure, buy your $50 mesh panty baggie.
Maxpedition dump pouches are absolute brick shit houses compared to the fricking flaming blue falcon gear dump pouches that feel like they're made of cheap womens underwear.
>I have found every Maxpedition sample superior to every Condor sample I own
>this turd is less stinky than this other turd
dont buy condor or maxpedition moron
>You have no credibility if you are just regurgitating negativity without hands-on experience
used to have one and it shit the bed after a week in the field
bfg dumps are also shit, yes
>Gee Billy, 10 mags?
more ammo more based
I do want to get the lads together and just use airshit with our regular gear, but it's proving difficult to get a good number of adults to 1: have free time that all lines up
2: have the same training based mentality for it
Like, yes, we are out here for fun, but we are also out here to practice shooting eachother.
This is why paintball is superior, all of the fun with none of the larping.
>love woodland
>acknowledge multicam is better
Frick me. I don't want to but it really can be used anywhere
Multicam doesn't really work where I live during the warmer months, too much tan that it sticks out too much. Wish OCP/Scorpion or whatever it's called was more prevalent as it would be perfect imo
Being a leaf, most places near me are boreal forest, for which darker greens like say M81 tend to work better.
get fricked glowie
I hope nobody's stupid enough to fall for this
if you join that discord you get a free Daniel Defense rifle and map to local synagogues and black churches
Is Agalite K19 worth it?
I bought mine originally a year ago and never looked back, probably best carrier (even better from JPC)
Lmao
Damn, almost up to three gorillion fake reviews.
The latest version of the 6094, which is a carrier widely used by SOCOM and other SOF operatives, has... 9 reviews.
https://lbtinc.com/products/6094g3
Agilite are so obviously scummy, it's unreal.
This sounds like a really great endorsement! Kinda reminds me of Space Marine space armor, it must be really good.
I own one. The feature list is pretty nice. But its kinda heavy, holds water like a sponge. It also retains heat pretty bad. I mean if you're looking for a fall/ winter JPC I'd say it's pretty good.
The only plate carriers that don't retain water are the ones you can only wear for an 2 hours
It's highly recommended by ThinLineDefese, so no.
Want to buy a slim chest rig a la dank robber or dino boy for range use. Any other suggestions or should i just flip a coin. Im considering the haley so i can have it take ak mags too but i'd like to keep it minimalist and slim. Tyia
Ready Rig sucks ass. Get a Brave Castle BCR-1. It's basically what the Ready Rig should have been.
Best fanny / chest carry option for a G19 with an x300? As its a Glock it needs a holster of some kind mountable inside (velcro?).
Post her fanny and or chest and I'll tell you.
What balaclava that looks similar to pic related?
What are your thoughts on the LBT 6094/lbx 0300? From everything I have gathered while it's heavier than say a JPC or the FCPC 5, it supposedly is bombproof and good at carrying weight.
I intend to run 6-10 rifle mags, ifak, a 3L camelbak, comms, and possibly a small back mounted pack panel as well. I'm not sure of the lighter carriers are ideal for that sort of load. As it is I already have a Ferro slickster I run with LBE if I want something lighter and more breathable
>6
Okay
>10
Gee Billy, 10 mags?
Well 6 most likely, the point was more that I intend to load the frick out of it an possibly up to 10
10 is light. 12 is standard really, more like 20 is what you want for irregular shit
Have both.
6094 and the LBX 0300 have similar/identical platebag cuts. The cummerbund on the LBX 0300 is super floppy, doesn't have accommodations for side plates, soft armor, or a 152. Also, no kangaroo pouch. Most noticable difference is the lack of rigidity in the cummerbund, as noted, which worsens it's load-bearing capability. Shoulder pads and stitching seem identical. With what you intend the carry, go 6094.
I see. So the cummerbund is what makes the difference in terms of how the load sits, and not so much the shoulder straps (beyond just width and padding ofc)? I've seen many claim the 3AC from Ferro is top notch in that regard.
So the micro rigs are worse for heavy weight overall?
The stiffer cummerbund helps transfers weight to the hips which makes it more comfortable. The 0300 isn't bad by any means and I prefer it over insta-tier "minimalist" carriers. I generally just just it as a fitness vest. Makes my back hurt after bit with 20 lbs plates.
Imagine making a cummerbund out of floss compared to chain. Chain will transfer the weight better instead of flopping about.
Thanks man, you've been a good help. It's hard to get that sort of info without firsthand experience and this stuff gets expensive fricking fast when you don't know what to buy. Not sure what you meant by "I use an lbx for fitness because it hurts my back after a while" but the rest made a lot of sense. Cheers
A workout can last like 45 minutes maybe an hour, real use or a range day can last several hours.
No problem. Been at this for awhile and I get sick of hostile posts shitting up the thread without spreading knowledge. I like a comfy /gq/.
I wore an IBA on my first deployment, so all the shit is gucci and most of the "you'll die without the latest nylon" is just consumerist parroting.
Eagle MBAV used to be a steal on eBay for $100 and is still a great PC, although prices are up. CIRAS was originally built and used by SOCOM (particularly NSW/SBT). Not a bad carrier and I was impressed the first time I was issued it. Small boat units are still using it in some places. If you aren't interested in a full BALCS-cut soft armor wrap (you likely aren't), won't be what you want. It's not trash, though.
Yup, exactly. The 0300 works fine, but I'd keep it light. It's ostensibly an "airsoft" carrier but is keeping the two 10 lbs steel plates in place just fine. If you wanted something to drop in two 5-6 lbs ballistic plates, a row of mags, and a TQ? Ok. You'll appreciate the stiffer cummerbund of the 6094 if you expect to be in kit longer than an hour or two.
I have a ton of both LBT and LBX stuff. Some things I wouldn't bother buying LBT (blowout pouch). Some things have a large delta in design (6094/0300). I will say, I've had zero QA problems with LBX, but a few with LBT. They'll make it right if you contact them.
For what it's worth the first carrier I had was a surplus ACU IBA (didn't know better). I dyed it green, got some cheap acu pouches to boot. Only to realize it bounced around like a Hooters waitress's rack when running and was utterly unbearable in summer.
Here in leaf land a 0300 is about 250 to 300 our money (sold locally) and an 6094 is about a grand with exchange rate (import only). I'm honestly half tempted to by an 0300 and just swap out the cummerbund for something more rigid like one of the fcpc's rigid cummerbund. That'd still be less than half the price. It's basically the same plate bags minus the velcro for soft armour and the kangaroo pouch.
Oh, the IBA is actually trash. Pretty much everything that came after it is decent enough (except IOTV).
So... for that many leafbucks, I'd get the 0300. The 6094 is better, but not 700 whatever dollarydoos better. If you can get a decent velcro cummerbund you'll be set.
That sounds heavy. Get the lbt 6094 its what a tank like you needs. Its only "oldschool/antiquated" if youre a trend hopping micro rig 3 mags only fanboy.
Unissued FLC in RG. Rig it out boys, after market ok. If you fail, I'll just stick on every spare nonmatching pouch I have.
>ABU
>UCP
>khaki
>coyote
Ok, I'll just mash it up with we. Thx guys.
>kit this thing out /gq/
>no I won't tell you anything else or even what guns I own
Cover it in grenade pouches to store heated pool balls in that you can insert into your anus.
Now you're just being weird. I own guns that take mags, I like water and seeing in the dark with lights and cutting things with a knife and carrying a smoke grenade for signaling extraction. See? You are superfluous, but compassionate me, I was trying to give you a feeling of self worth and inclusion. What a wasted moment for you.
No anon, he's right. Real oper8tors always fight whilst having things up their butts
Can I just use a Sharpie or 6? Then I can draw dicks on faces of dead enemy combatants. Dual use is always my paradigm.
>I own guns that take mags
shockingly, pouches made for 5.56 mags will not fit .308 mags
narrow it down moron
Not him, but does it matter? I figure he was fishing for suggestions for general layout, not specific brands of pouch.
>does it matter
No. Seriously, if someone has a specific mag they will select ak, ar or man size. Where a Blackhawk radio pouch may be better than USGI surp does matter.
It matters for general layout, without even getting into brands. If you have an AK, but buy AR mag pouches, they're not going to fit, and you're shit out of luck. Even cartridge size can determine layout.
He likes water, great. Canteens or camelback? or just water bottles? Different methods of carrying each one, and that impacts setup and pouches.
Being specific with what you have and what your needs are is very important so you dont wind up with a setup unfit for you.
>If you have an AK, but buy AR mag pouches, they're not going to fit,
Venture Surplus video w/Lucas shows this flat wrong. Did you even try it before making blanket statements?
>Venture Surplus video w/Lucas shows this flat wrong
What?
And yes guy, I can assure you that AK mags do not fit in AR pouches. The only exception I have found is that a single AK mag will fit in a USGI double mag pouch.
Try putting 2 AK mags in an esstac double mag made for AR mags.
>I can assure you that AK mags do not fit in AR pouches
>a single AK mag will fit in a USGI double mag pouch
Why do I bother when you contradict yourself? It's hilarious.
I stated that there was a single exception, and it's not very good when you have to used a double mag pouch to fit a single mag. That's fricking moronic, and you're a contrarian homosexual.
>contradicts self
>you are a contrarian
What ev, stay mad homosexual. Your rant started because I said people would know what mag pouches to get and you didn't accept that.
THE EXCEPTION DOES NOT MAKE THE RULE YOU FRICKING IMBECILE
>still backpedaling
Go girl.
>you totally missed an opportunity to spoon-feed me just so I can ignore all advice and do whatever I want anyway
I'll live.
Thankfully, I don't want to be remembered as your dream crusher.
What was the brand of those sub $30 slings that were gtg? I just remember the website looks like its from the 90's.
pls help
>contrast cranked
>saturation cranked
>highlights cranked
Who took this photo? It looks like a deep fried ypt meme video
What are some good tactical pants?
Need to be fricking durable, like jeans
I bought a bunch of m65 pants and they wore out really fast
Whatever carpenter pant is in stock at your local Costco.
If you want cheap Propper is an actual .mil supplier of uniforms so at least they won't spontaneously self -disassemble due to chink QC standards. Or just buy a good heavy-duty pair of jeans/khakis in a somewhat baggy cut
My cammies were hot fricking garbage when I was in. Crotch tears, popped belt loops, and pretty much every button has to be sewn back on at least once before it would stay permanently.
bros, what is the most stereotypical operator boot? I've narrowed it down to either the Lowa Zephyr or Salomon Forces, but there are like six different models of Salomon Forces it could be.
Really? I would have said the MOAB without a second thought. Is that not a popular boot anymore?
The Salomon 4D Quest boot has been "le operator shoe" for the last decade.
Lowa Zephyr became pretty popular in militaries which still required a boot with their uniform.
Salomon Quests is what a bunch of people used.
Frick buying boots
If the shit hits the fan imma just wear my motorcycle boots
It's too fricking hard finding good boots in size 15 and larger
How many liters should your backpack be for 3 days I am overwhelmed by choices
50L if you know the area, the terrain isn't very rugged, and the weather is temperate.
60L+ otherwise.
For a 3 day pack??? Bruh, 30-40L is more than enough
Idiot
Not him, but it does really depend on how light you move/camp, and the season. I've done 4 day backpacking trips in summer with only a 30L assault pack, but I would definitely need more in winter
Dude, youre almost bringing a ruck for a 3 day pack? Youre the idiot.
1 extra shirt
1 extra pair of pants
1 bivvie
Food
Aquatabs
Looking at battle belts. Have it between the 5.11 Maverick and the G-Code Contact Series Operator.
What's the purpose/function of the d-ring on the front just to the side of the cobra buckle on some belts? is it just to give that last bit of tightness/fit?
The 5.11 doesn't have and it's an option on the G-Code. Just curious if there was any pro's to the d-ring that make it a go-to, must have option to sway my decision.
Sort of a moronic question, but are shooter/swimmer plates arguably better than sapi plates for civilians, primarily due to the increased mobility in the shoulders?
i ordered 2 plash palatka´s pretty excited, anyone have any experience with them?
Yes, gets heavy as shit in heavy rain but will keep you dry and works great as a tent
Dumb fricking question from me, but I'll dare asking it anyway: Why did you go for this piece of canvas instead of the US style polymer one? It's lighter, doesn't need to be impregnated to repell water, and is easier to find. I ask because it's weird that you westerners bought them all from down here for some reason and they get stupidly pricey for what is a straigh up downgrade from a cheaper and more modern thing.
old shit brings cool factor
canvas is better around fire and i like the color better, it will mostly be for warmth, not rain, also polymer gives you cancer
>also polymer gives you cancer
Don't eat the fricking thing then.
Style and remember this is larpfashion not go-to-war gear.
Fashionistas don't have to be concerned with soldiers load because they're not soldiers. For street wear a bath of Scotchgard (works great, I used to use two cans on my M-65 field jackets I wore oversize for the three liners I could layer inside) would make it acceptably waterproof.
Brother almost everything in this hobby gives you cancer
including this board
Esp.
Could anyone identify what gloves Mike was using in one of these videos? Looking at other similar gloves and want to compare.
Knowing Mike, outdoor research most likely
I was thinking they were outdoor research but I didn't see anything on their site (at least when I looked) that resembled these. Unless he got something they're prototyping.
They're OR. Appears to be the USGI nomex gloves that replaced the flyers. https://www.ebay.com/itm/394588141561?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=AtZq7wprTNu&sssrc=2047675&ssuid=xggkmTl8Q8-&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Disregard they're different. Oops lol
No problem, that DOES look similar.
Hey lads, I'm thinking of buying a pair of crye combat pants finally. Should I go with the g3 or g4s and is Cryes website the best place to buy em?
Is there a placard/PC mag pouch list?
I’m trying to decide between a 3 mag setup and being able to carry more. It seems like for civil unrest the 3mag placards are plenty, but for hard use it seems like I’m gonna want more mags. I just want a general use carrier. What are y’all’s thought? What about placard vs just a bunch of mag pouches?Is there a list?
always lean on the side of more mags, nobody ever regretted having more ammo in a gunfight, but plenty of dead dudes didn't have enough
iotv gen 4 isnt terrible for what it is (but I would still take plate carrier all day every day over it)
LBT constantly runs 50% off sales so you can get them for cheaper, but honestly LBT has been slipping on quality lately
pic rel
>3XL
>44x32
all gun control is designed to apply to muh mass shooters despite the fact that they're all suicidal and usually plan out their attacks long in advance.
Turns out some people are taller than 5"9'
New wardrobe
Yes I'm autistic and desire to wear the same thing every day
>polos
I fricking hate polos so much.
What site
https://www.propper.com/
le grayman look is so fricking cringe. buy jeans or an adidas tracksuit you dolt.
I already wear jeans and a tshirt every day
I'm looking to start dressing more mature
this isnt mature lmao. youre gonna look like those 40 something guys with oakleys and caps with velcro panels on them. a walking 5.11 commercial. cringe.
I'm ok with that.
I don't live in America so such stereotypes aren't really a thing here
not from america either, i see dudes like that all the time. i bet 95% dont even own guns which makes it even more cringe. dress like a normal person, keep the tacticool shit for your range dressup session. or at least terrorwave it. never go full tacticool moron.
Is there anywhere in Europe that's best for buying gear (within EU). I'm struggling to find a decent IFAK pouch among other things. All the gear I have has been put together piecemeal from second hand buys. I have a lot of warrior assault stuff which seems decent, but any advice would be sweet.
Or just tell me to frick off if you want, that's fair I just saw your post was recent.
Perunika.org has some ok stuff, they just started stocking Agilite (oy vey). Honestly you're kinda stuck with Direct Action or importing from the USA for the most part. Most of my stuff (its not much because I dont play dressup, I just have the bare minimum needed for training) is made by Direct Action and its pretty good.
Thanks, already more helpful than the abject homosexuals on reddit (but that's on me for going there).
I'm much in the same boat, need a small amount of stuff, I'm not interested in LARPing.
UFPRO and CZ 4M are decent alternatives to american made clothing if you are in need of clothes. Dont be afraid of Tasmanian Tiger either, most of their gear is perfectly ok.
Thanks, have a uf pro delta 2 jacket for day to day wear and its pretty good, very warm, although it's broken a zipper which annoyed me.
the brits have a very decent surplus ifak pouch for cheap. You can get them on ebay.
Excellent rec, thank you.
if that is not enough get the snigel pouch sale.
while the vest is okay and can be made into a chest rig the set is worth it for the pouches alone:
https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/swedish-svs-12-combat-vest-with-pouches-green-surplus/63460
Yeah that's a lot of gear for the money, cheers.
>terrorwave it
Based. I get so tired of seeing all the "I'm a SOF operator" larp get-ups I see posted on IG (and even here sometimes). What's the point of dressing up like SEALs when shooting at the range? I can't take those guys seriously. I have more respect for airsofters, because at least they know they're playing make-believe.
the only bit of "tactical" clothes i ever wear is a pair of crye pants because the pockets actually come in handy (makeshift dump pouch in left cargo, phone in front thigh pocket etc). otherwise i just shoot in vans and adidas. tacticool multicam shit is beyond cringe.
homosexual foreigners get off my board
i have more guns than you and i can buy suppressors without sucking atf dick. hows that make you feel?
>i have more guns than you
I doubt it
>i have more guns than you
>I doubt it
State numbers, I'm in the mood for a lame dick measuring contest.
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Post rigs
I don't get why people go for rigs rather than modular plate carriers
Isn't it just better to have the option of adding plates?
What exactly do you mean
taps still based
>What exactly do you mean
A plate carrier is basically a customizable rig that you can add body armor to
Why would you go for a rig then? They cost about the same
Dedicated gear will always be better than modular jack of all trades designs. I thought the same as you for a while, but using an empty jpc as a chest rig sucks. Either you need plates for what you're doing or you don't and you leave home dressed for the occasion, this notion of scaling up and down on the fly isn't a real circumstance.
giving me ptsd of wearing a taps
>random frag grenade pouch on the far right with no grenade
>canteen making the whole rig lopsided
>meme spiritus JSTA pouch with an exposed multitool
>baofeng
I genuinely don't understand how you can be so colossally ignorant of even the basics of load carriage that you would post this picture in any context other than bait. Literally take everything off this abomination except for the magazine pouches and start again. Water doesn't go on one side of a fricking chest rig and small losable tools don't live exposed on your gear.
Picrel is my ifak. Haven't found a better solution so sticking with the fanny pack for now
There's nothing wrong with redundancy, but you might be better served splitting it up into a "self service" and "spare."
Theres basically no redundancy there. Its the appropriate amount of gauze. Those ifaks with one packet of gauze make me laugh and I can instantly tell its a LARPer that never even dealt with a bigger cut much less any sort of real trauma.
I'd probably drop the israeli and NPA (pretty pointless item, just recovery position the victim or at least test the size if it even fits you). Stellar IFAK otherwise.
What about for EDC within immediate response of an ambulance?
Tourniquet, cpr and knowing how to use an AED. you can use a shirt for gauze / bandage but carrying a packet of gauze isnt that difficult and comes in handy for a multitude of reasons. Last packet I busted into was to wipe my babies butt.
I always carry some small gauze pads and medical tape too, takes care of scrapes/cuts. Some Ibuprofen too, its easily the most used item outta my kit.
You're gonna wish you didn't bring that nussy knocker, when somebody put that shit up your nasal canal with no water based lube
Any suggestions for hot weather balaclavas?
The point of balaclavas is to keep your head warm. So I guess just get a bandana or something if you're concerned about hiding your face.
Plenty of rigs and PCs..
Are there any decent vests around? I'm trying to wrangle a very unique setup for a unique problem and no chest rig or PC will accommodate my needs.
Any good websites for Asia? Specifically Japan. homosexual pussies on ebay wont sell shit to me because muh ITAR even when the shits not even ITAR. I can even buy holosun on Amazon despite the fact its being made like 3 hours away from me. Fricking morons
i was visiting my girlfriends parents in korea and saw airsoft stores selling official GBRS stuff, Blue Alpha etc. theyre really into it over there. might be worth investigating.
This is a weapons board
>Live in Japan
>Guns are incredibly hard to get
>All kinds of bodyarmor are totally legal tho
>America
>Trying to outlaw bodyarmor
Kek. Japan is the new land of the free
>can't own guns
>land of the free
That said, I really gotta give props to the dude who greased Shinzo Abe. Very clever guy. A real case of "where there's a will, there's a way."
Honestly I think he did it the hard way
I'm sure I could build a decent quality firearm here
Just fly to America, buy a barrel and some springs
Smuggle that into Japan in my luggage (ezy)
Then 3D print the rest
He just overcomplicated the priming system. You can make primers out of strike anywhere matches. You don't need a fancy electronic rig to light black powder on fire.
to outlaw bodyarmor
yeah this isn't happening
Already happened in NY, and likely to happen in CA and other states. Might even happen federally.
It's totally absurd and moronic, but there ya go.
When the government moves to ban bodyarmor the only possible reason is they want you to be easier to kill
I bought mine with the Buffalo thing for thus reason.
I need a belt pad thingamajingy that velcros onto a two piece belt and makes it like a over the clothes kinda warbelt, any recommendations? My belt has loop on it so I need hook on the pad. Preferably <$50.
Off the top of my head, AWS and Defense Mechanisms.
>https://awsin.com/54051-padded-inner-belt/
>https://defensemechanisms.com/mech-belt-pad/
While we're melting down over chest rig setups, are elastic back straps worth it? The ones I'm aware of are made by JTACtical, Tracer Tactical and T.REX Arms. The JTAC and Tracer straps appear to be essentially the same, while the T.REX one has some extra quick adjustability feature.
>https://www.jtacticalsolutions.com/collections/frontpage/products/elastic-back-strap
>https://tracer-tactical.com/products/elastic-back-strap
>https://www.trex-arms.com/store/T-REX-Back-Strap/
I don't carry a ton of stuff on my rig, but if these elastic back straps are actually a useful upgrade to keep things nice and tight to my body while still allowing for good freedom of movement, I'll grab one.
Also, since I mentioned Tracer Tactical, does anyone have any experience with their H harness? It looks kind of nice, but I'm not sure it's worth $80.
>https://tracer-tactical.com/products/h-harness
I'm thinking the YMi ASH harness would be the better buy for $65.
>https://ymitactical.com/products/chest-rig-shoulder-harness-pre-order
If anyone has any experience with this stuff, let me know what you think. I'd rather not ask r/TacticalGear.
If you buy from Defense Mechanisms be sure to use code KINETIC for 10% off.
Elastic has a life span. It also suffers over time from heat and weather much more than traditional nylon webbing.
Of course elastic has a lifespan. That's a given. However, the elastic back straps are only $15. Depending on how long it takes for the elastic to wear out, you could probably buy a few elastic back straps and be set for quite a long time.
Elastic is used in an ton of gear these days. I've not heard anybody complain about its lifespan.
>looks northern European
>not a drop of Sami blood
>obvious epicanthic fold
Why are her eyes so squinky? Also, would.
Shes atlantean
thats a korean without a shit ton of plastic surgery. they can look quite good when they dont decide to chop half their face off.
>>not a drop of Sami blood
At least I was right, I take a vain pride in genetic profiling.
Anyone able to buy stuff from P1G tac?
Gonna ask here since /meg/ is dead atm, would a arm fracture resulting in a plate being installed prevent me from going to airborne school/any training?
Military only accepts purebloods
No androids allowed
Damn for real? If so that sucks I was considering trying out for Pararescue.
Jumps are hard on your body. If it's already fricked up it's only going to be worse.
Fair enough. Guess I'll stick to civilian life and train on my own.
Truly the pinnacle of warfare
Never know when an android will get hacked and go FUBAR
next OP