full size carry

if you're going to carry a full size pistol why not make it a 5.7?

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I just like it

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What brand of 911 is that?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Turkoid. Surprisingly well built and reliable, but it had a gnarly trigger and super tight slide fit. I understand why people want high end ones tho

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      When did you get your green card? How is life here compared to Mexico?

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because name just 1 full steel pistol chambered in 5.7 ill wait
    now show us your 5.7 noguns bet you don't have one

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Who said anything about steel?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        all 5.7 guns are plastic shit i like metal guns
        still waiting for you to post just 1 of your guns fag

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          I’m not the OP.

          Metal frames are obsolete now, retard. Polymer is king. Why carry heavy things when you can carry light things?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Why carry heavy things when you can carry light things?
            Microplastics

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Spoken like a true manlet.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Imbecile, the colt delta elites frames stretch out and die if you actually use them, you know what guns can take fullpowered loads on the dsily? Glock, hk's polymer frames that flex you fucking no shoots stupid fuck

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          plastic guns are fine
          I agree that steel guns are cool (I own a CZ-75B for duty 9mm cool purposes) but plastic guns are fine

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Call me when reliable ammo hits 50 cpr. I don't even feed my ps90 a regular diet because it's roughly the equivalent of two tanks of gas for me.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >didnt buy a ps90 because without selectfire capability its a major meme
      >find out FN products are barely semiauto and converting a ps90 to selectfire is as simply as die grinding the tab on the selector switch, cutting notch a cm lower on the hammer for auto sear to engage, then plastic welding ears on the disconnector.
      Behold, selectfire p90.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Dude fuck you youre so out of the loop and stupid youre not bringing back with us. Btw palmetto ammo factory is rolling and putting out quality shit get wrecked also even the fn has you know what nah fuck you

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous
  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >60cpr for shitty ball
    >70cpr-$1 per round depending on the political climate for anything actually useful
    >it only comes in polymer shit or weird ass guns that aren't practical
    >weird ass guns usually have limited aftermarket so you're stuck with the stock model
    only good 5.7x28 i'd actually consider the the diamondback DBX, too bad the price is way too high for what it is

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >70cpr-$1 per round depending on the political climate for anything actually useful
      Just factor in the cost of 6 mags of hollow points, ie 120 rounds, into the cost of the gun; congrats, your gun is now 1020 bucks, no problem, it’s not like self defense ammo is something you have to constantly go through
      Also, the M&P exists in 5.7 now, totally normal and comfortable

      https://i.imgur.com/kVPQgzJ.jpg

      all 5.7 guns are plastic shit i like metal guns
      still waiting for you to post just 1 of your guns fag

      ITT: Europeans who don’t carry every day

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Dude all you have to do is post a gun pal, it’s that easy

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nice antique, I’m not the same guy you were talking to before

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Sick airsoft gun bro.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's a really bad attempt at bait m8. That's clearly carbon buildup. 9/10 I replied.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            thats carbon i thought the flashlight housing was melted from firing

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              It's an X300, made of metal. Although I don't know how it doesn't bother the shit out of him. Any sort of fouling on my light and I wipe it immediately.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                I leave it on cause I think it’s funny, it also happens every week or so when I did clean it so I no longer bother

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nice grandpas gat, either that piece of shit was a handmedown or 300 dollars from an auction who cares

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        no, i've seen gold dot 5.7 fail to drop a 100lb hog, i doubt it would stop a drug crazed hoodrat at self defense distance

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Does 9mm work against hogs? I would think it wouldn’t

          Sick airsoft gun bro.

          Thanks man yeah that’s uh CO2 buildup on the muzzle

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Funny you say that because if there were one area I'd say 5.7 is a clear winner, it would be as a survival round. Something to replace .17HMR or .22 magnum as it's safe to say it beats those, but not safe to say it beats 9mm or other well established handghn calibers at doing habdgun defensive stuff.

          It's definitely adequate if not overkill against varmints and very small game, that's one application I'd put it to work in. But the cost is certainly not justified since a plinking/varmint round should be cheap enough for you to stock up on enough to ride out the apocalypse and always be able to put rabbits on the table. Shooting a hog with it though, even I don't have the balls to do this, the hog will get pissed and rip yours off. Might as well shoot it with a .17HMR or .22mag...

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            This is exactly why we need to shill all these retards into buying defensively useless .22 handguns, so the ammo becomes cheap enough that we can actually just use it as a .22 replacement.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >it’s not like self defense ammo is something you have to constantly go through
        this moron doesnt train with self defense ammo

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because I’m not gay.
    Fo’ Five or nuthin

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    whats with the uptick in 5.7 posting lately. is there a new pistol again.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Several over the past couple years, and some at shot show.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      FN and Federal shills

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      S&W came out with a 5.7 M&P that's gas-operated (not gas delayed like the P7 series) instead of blowback. I'll probably pick one up, the gas op should make the special plastic coating on the case unnecessary, and minimise neck stretch making reloading practicable.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The case lube was never for the handguns, its for P90 magazines.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          no the case coating is to prevent the cases from sticking in the chamber and ripping apart due to the retarded blowback action.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            No, this is brainlet myth no different from fuddlore endlessly regurgitated in gun shops. FN's original FiveseveN handgun does not need specially coated brass the function. The coating mostly burns up after 1-2 firings and the cases can be reloaded 3 times easily before you loose too much material trimming the necks back down. They function and eject exactly the same without it.
            Stop regurgitating unsourced myths.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              no you are simply a contrarian retard who is incapable of understanding that what you just wrote proves my claim

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >hurr durr
                >the fact that cases don't need the coating to fire and eject normally in a handgun proves they're needed for da handgun!
                Yeah, typical retard. Go back to your oookrain thread.
                5.7 brass had a dry lube coating before the FiveseveN handgun existed.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >nooo you can't use the fact that the cases stretch and separate as soon as the coating wears off to prove that the coating is needed to prevent the cases from stretching and separating
                fortunately you are too stupid to breathe, so you won't be bothering us much longer.

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >this stupid high school drop out thinks lacquer on a case prevents it from needed a trim after firing
                LMFAO you straw grasping muttoid retard

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because I prefer to use pistol cartridges in my pistols and not PDW cartridges in my not-PDWs.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    [email protected]

    I'll bite, I've been researching it and I'm not buying this round unless it becomes very cheap. Cheaper than 9mm, because it underperforms 9mm in areas that matter more than the areas it beats it in.

    Pros:
    >flatter shooting at longer distance
    >2-4 more rounds per mag
    >lower recoil

    Cons:
    >barrier penetration SUCKS, when shot say at a windshield or a .5" sheet of aluminum, 9mm is more likely to go through due to having more mass (I'll post vid of it sucking at barrier penetration)
    >hollowpoints are useless, inherent unreliable expansion (maybe 1 in 5 actually expand and they don't even become that wide), relies on fragmentation and tumbling which require ideal circumstances (range, barrel length) and target density. Expansion is a KNOWN RELIABLE wounding mechanism for handgun rounds, fragmentation and tumbling are not known reliable wounding mechanisms for handgun rounds.
    >loud as shit, needs to generate high velocity to work properly
    >requires a 5" barrel minimum, compacts and subcompacts aren't viable, you won't have ammo commonality between it and other smaller handguns you carry
    >does good at soft armor penetration but doesn't do as much damage past the armor as copper 9mm rounds that rape through the armor and continue to rape and penetrate deep
    >penetration in ballistics gel often does not meet the 12-18" minimum requirement

    • 2 weeks ago
      [email protected]

      >I'll post vid of it sucking at barrier penetration

      Notice these are out of 8" barrels too so the 5.7 should have enough of the velocity that it relies on. 9mm pushes through the piece of aluminum, 5.7 does not, barely dents it. If you're having to shoot through a hardened windshield or any barrier this is an area where it's going to perform poorly. Two comparisons would be .223 getting thrown off course by twigs and bouncing off barriers at range vs .30 cals punching through brush and barriers. Also one thing .40 cal still does better than 9mm is punches through light barriers like windshields better without diverting course as much. It just has more mass. You're losing a lot of mass going from a 9mm 90-147gr projectile to a 5.7mm 40gr-55gr projectile, and the 9mm projectile is ALREADY on the lower end of mass for a handgun round. We have shit like 10mm, .45, .40, etc. If you ask me 5.7 is cutting it too light, and depending too much on things that it can't achieve reliably (adequate velocity out of a 5" barrel, fragmentation, and tumbling).

      I want to like it, but it's not the most practical for a handgun round. It underperforms 9 in critical areas.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >I'll post vid of it sucking at barrier penetration

      Notice these are out of 8" barrels too so the 5.7 should have enough of the velocity that it relies on. 9mm pushes through the piece of aluminum, 5.7 does not, barely dents it. If you're having to shoot through a hardened windshield or any barrier this is an area where it's going to perform poorly. Two comparisons would be .223 getting thrown off course by twigs and bouncing off barriers at range vs .30 cals punching through brush and barriers. Also one thing .40 cal still does better than 9mm is punches through light barriers like windshields better without diverting course as much. It just has more mass. You're losing a lot of mass going from a 9mm 90-147gr projectile to a 5.7mm 40gr-55gr projectile, and the 9mm projectile is ALREADY on the lower end of mass for a handgun round. We have shit like 10mm, .45, .40, etc. If you ask me 5.7 is cutting it too light, and depending too much on things that it can't achieve reliably (adequate velocity out of a 5" barrel, fragmentation, and tumbling).

      I want to like it, but it's not the most practical for a handgun round. It underperforms 9 in critical areas.

      ALL of those considered, if you really want those pros that 5.7 has (achieving high velocity for a handgun round, shooting flatter, and penetrating soft armor) what you should be looking into is copper 9mm bullets. Copper is lighter than lead so the bullets are lighter, and achieve higher velocities. Copper also deforms much less than lead, so they can punch through barriers like armor and have the benefit of leaving a bigger hole than 5.7 once they're through. I haven't seen any tests on light barriers like windshields or car doors, I'm not sure I'd they divert more or less than a heavier lead 9mm bullet. But overall those copper bois perform pretty good. I think you end up with a more versatile weapon that's much cheaper to train with than 5.7. The cheapest ammo is 4x the cost of cheap 9mm. I'd invest in some copper rounds and wait on 5.7 to see if it's going to be adopted or if they fix the areas where it's inadequate.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous
    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >2-4 more rounds per mag
      4-7 more rounds, Rock mags have 23 rounds

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Good because 5.7 needed another 3 shots to make them viable carry guns. cant kill the assailant with just 20

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    because 9mm is better to me. but if you like 5.7 that's good too.

    also didnt u just do this thread yesterday? why not make a 5.7 general?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because they're not paying him to do that.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >why not make it a 5.7?

    Because there is no 5.7 revolver.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because it performs the same, or worse than 9mm

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why should I not just carry a PPQ like I already do when full size is acceptable? Only variations I have in ccw is going down to a smaller gun, not a different full size gun.

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The special coating on 5.7 exists so you can easily insert those suppositories in your ass.

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    if you're going to carry a full size pistol why not make it a 357?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      small bullet... funny
      there is no point to carrying a gun that doesn't have hilariously tiny bullets or humorously large bullets

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I would if I didn't live in grizzly/moose country. So I choose 10mm. If I lived urban id probably still carry 10mm with some 1800fps defenders since I am so used to it. Definitely getting the PSA 5.7 for my wife though. Such a dope pistol and I plan on shooting it alllll the time for fun.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    I don't know dick about much of anything but doesn't a subsonic round in this caliber defeat the best feature of the round?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      5.7 subsonic is a very sophisticated 22LR

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        60gr Aguila SSS can't beat a IIIA soft armor vest, but 55gr SB193 5.7 can
        To be entirely fully honest though, I'd rather shoot 50 rounds of Aguila. Its more fun..

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