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It's a quasi blockade. During exercises the navy announces the range of their battle space and civilian ships are prevented from entering. China is essentially saying we could expand the scope of the exercises and cut off Taiwanese ports.
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It's a quasi blockade. During exercises the navy announces the range of their battle space and civilian ships are prevented from entering. China is essentially saying we could expand the scope of the exercises and cut off Taiwanese ports.
https://i.imgur.com/3qG0r5n.png
name one cargo ship that will be going through these waters while a live-fire exercise is occurring
I agree with the sentiment that this will amount to nothing, but I still feel like civilian/commercial vessels might choose to avoid going through an active live-fire exercise all the same.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Avoid mountains of wealth because you're scared of plywood junks setting off bottle rockets
Somehow I doubt it.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm team west too anon but calling them plywood junks is just being disingenuous. You can kill someone with a bottle rocket if you're motivated enough, and even if everything they make is tofu it's still packed with explosives. If anything they'll reroute sea traffic. pic rel, I looked it up after typing that last sentence because I assumed they avoided making any official announcements regarding any reroutes while a foreign diplomat was there
2 years ago
Anonymous
I'm half expecting the Biden administration to throw the Taiwanese some weapons too now since they hold far more strategic importance than the Ukraine. >China tries to act tough >US decides to send the Taiwanese some ASHMs, Patriots, and old fighters >CCP just complain about how this hurts the feelings of the Chinese people
2 years ago
Anonymous
China was probably banking on Russia tying NATO resources up significantly.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>cement
ssshhhh don't say that, that causes erecticle dysfunction in the yeng doa shzu
And it won't be. A blockade is an act of war. No different then a bombing run on a city. China is going to kick off WW3 tonight without any troops in position or any other kind of support for the fleet.
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this, it's not even active yet you dumb c**ts
https://i.imgur.com/3qG0r5n.png
name one cargo ship that will be going through these waters while a live-fire exercise is occurring
So we're not even in the 'Is the blockade working?' phase yet? We're still in the 'Are they even going to go through with it?' phase?
So you're saying they still haven't done shit?
I'm team west too anon but calling them plywood junks is just being disingenuous. You can kill someone with a bottle rocket if you're motivated enough, and even if everything they make is tofu it's still packed with explosives. If anything they'll reroute sea traffic. pic rel, I looked it up after typing that last sentence because I assumed they avoided making any official announcements regarding any reroutes while a foreign diplomat was there
no we're in the "you're an uneducated armchair general with no grasp on reality" phase
Nah, It looks like we've move on to the 'Project your insecurities to random people in a Mongolian basket weaving forum' phase.
https://i.imgur.com/UGHEagy.png
I'm team west too anon but calling them plywood junks is just being disingenuous. You can kill someone with a bottle rocket if you're motivated enough, and even if everything they make is tofu it's still packed with explosives. If anything they'll reroute sea traffic. pic rel, I looked it up after typing that last sentence because I assumed they avoided making any official announcements regarding any reroutes while a foreign diplomat was there
>rerouting
It's not much of a blockade if most shit can get through tho is it?
It's a quasi blockade. During exercises the navy announces the range of their battle space and civilian ships are prevented from entering. China is essentially saying we could expand the scope of the exercises and cut off Taiwanese ports.
Trade has to go on. Taiwan will use its airspace and waters as it does everyday.
china will have to purposefully start targeting ships before the Taiwan consider it a blockade and stop all traffic. be we all know how good china is at taking action.
just like what happened to the seawolf last time? "seamount" seems like an adequate cope.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Cope for what? Chinese subs are worse than 1970s-era Soviet boats and never have I once seen anything suggesting that they are competent at ASW. The morons couldn't even build a diesel-electric boat without the engine asphyxiating the entire crew due to poor design.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_submarine_361
Neverserved but I thought due to nature of submarines, the USN opsec is basically no one knows where subs are unless they tell us, upper brass only knows their orders and where they’re going.
sorry mcfarter your going to have to win this one without nukes or disease bombs, because all humanity dies in that scenario.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>sorry mcfarter your going to have to win this one without nukes or disease bombs
Lol >because all humanity dies in that scenario.
Lmao >SDI >Multiple Kill Vehicles >MARAUDER
While the chinks were busy gunning down students at tianamen square DARPA was plucking warheads out of orbit. In the event of a total nuclear exchange (a complete impossiblity) china would be at the complete and utter mercy of the US. The idea that china could even compete the the US, much less beat them, is pure fantasy.
Inb4 >muh quantum tech >muh hypersoooonics >muh trannies/gays/Black folk
Imagine trying to dab on China using a MacArthur meme.....the general historically famous for getting shit canned for being so ass blasted over his UN task force's ass getting kicked 6 ways to Sunday by an unsupported 99% infantry chink army, he wanted to drop 50 nukes on the Chinese
2 years ago
Anonymous
Lol the existence of South Korea and chink death toll states something else Black personnose LOL.
Only communist homosexuals like israelites and other asiatics disagree with mcarthur and are eternally kvetching to paint him in a poor light when all he ever was: was right.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Getting this mad when he's proven wrong he has to resort to a library's worth of buzzwords
Lol. Cool your jets lady.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>We didn't even want to unite Korea and remove a Chinese-Soviet puppet that threatened US positions in Japan!
Cope more, Black person
2 years ago
Anonymous
>North invades south with goal of forceful reunification >Gets their shit raped back to the Chinese border >Barely manages to scrape out a status quo antebellum >Uhh actually the north won!
I hope you realize how little sense this makes
2 years ago
Anonymous
No. A blockade is an officially recognized act of war.
Taiwan is not at war with China.
The most significant aspect of the Korean War is, once again, American wifflewaffling on how to handle the post-conflict politics, which is fricked up beyond repair by allowing North Korea to come into existence
2 years ago
Anonymous
The issue with this is that North Korea was already in existence, the war didn't allow it to come into existence. All the Korean war did was insure the existence of south korea
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/qsmRzWa.gif
>uneducated >muh Educate yourself chud
Calm down, Michael Jackson. I think you're forgetting you're not on Twitter.
the saddest fricking part is i know in a few years morons are gonna be using this same logic about the russia/ukraine war >yeah ukraine still exists as a nation and even reclaimed captured areas in the donbass, but crimea is still russian so that means russia won the war!
2 years ago
Anonymous
The solution to this is simple, we keep shipping weapons to Ukraine until they liberate Crimea
2 years ago
Anonymous
>>We didn't even want to unite Korea and remove a Chinese-Soviet puppet that threatened US positions in Japan!
Black person, keeping the south was the main reason they were there in the first place. MacArthur was even fired for going too far north.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The existence of North Korea is McArthur's biggest failure and he's a pathetic, mewling shitstain on our otherwise glorious military history, you dumb cuckold.
2 years ago
Anonymous
The fact pic related was allowed to happen is a complete embarrassment for MacArthur. Only reason the US forces apart of that offensive didn't get completely annihilated was thanks to airstrikes running around the clock.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>we would have won if we hadn't lost
Ping pong bing bong, sum ting wong to you too, my fine yellow friend.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Only reason the US forces apart of that offensive didn't get completely annihilated was thanks to airstrikes running around the clock.
So the only reason they weren't overran by 1 million chinks was because the Airforce was doing it's job and nullified your manpower advantage? Wow, Chang, it's almost as if the military has multiple branches that support each other.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>They needed 6 Chinks to match just one UN soldier >this is something to brag about
2 years ago
Anonymous
As a person from a shithole that prides itself on "peacekeeping" because we are so unthreatening that nobody has any grudge against us, based chinks. If you want to get blown up by Israelis for being in the way like Cpl Dermot McLaughlin, be my guest.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Worthless cowards as usual. Useless outside piracy like most commies.
2 years ago
Anonymous
You do know they launched the offensive when they did because the weather was too bad to allow air support. So no it wasn't around the clock.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>lose half your men to a retreating army >dont even stop the retreat
Go suck some more micro chink dick you frickin tourist
2 years ago
Anonymous
He's infamous for being shitcanned because Truman and Euros didn't like him. He technically didn't do anything worth shitcanning (he did all orders to a tee, and stretched it but never violating anything) except not giving a shit what the president has to say with his Europe-First policies because he saw the communist Asian threat to be more pressing. He is quite literally the definition of "didn't do anything wrong." > The Joint Chiefs agreed that there was "little evidence that General MacArthur had ever failed to carry out a direct order of the Joint Chiefs, or acted in opposition to an order". "In point of fact", Bradley insisted, "MacArthur had stretched but not legally violated any JCS directives. He had violated the President's 6 December directive [not to make public statements on policy matters], relayed to him by the JCS, but this did not constitute violation of a JCS order."[368] Truman ordered MacArthur's relief by Ridgway, and the order went out on 10 April with Bradley's signature.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the MacArthur in that chink flick about the battle of Chosin is fricking hilarious, it's worth the entire movie just for that dude
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Wouldn't is a strong word in politics
[...] >will go through just fine
Why would civilian ships knowingly enter a live fire area? To make some point?
>Why would
They wont. They never do. They are more likely to collide with another US tincan destroyer than enter the waters when they are blocked off. Its just the usual feel good rethoric because lying on the internet is cheap when mods are feds.
The Dragon lady is packed with some of the best spy gear you can get. They also use it as a high speed data relay between the F-35 and F-22 so the systems can talk to each other. I don't think it's going anywhere. Imagine each pod(and the nose) as a spy sat, but flying at 70kft. It's much cheaper, has longer on station time, and flexibility than the spy sats.
>"The six zones were chosen for their importance in a potential campaign to seal off Taiwan and thwart foreign intervention," said Major General Meng Xiangqing in an interview on Chinese state television. "The zone near Kaohsiung in southern Taiwan, where there are crucial bases, creates conditions to bolt the door and beat the dog."
Do you have the one of that chink closing that industrial blast door thing on his friend? Think it was in a lab or something, they were both in full body suits but you knew it was China from the moonrunes on the labels around the place and on their suits.
>Did...did
Please stop this fricking reddit-tier posting of pretending you are at a loss of words of whatever it is supposed to be. It looks gayer than shit.
It doesn't really matter that much if China is in a position to shoot down Pelosi's plane, since they're not going to do it even if it took a detour over Beijing
>The Taiwanese government said it was studying whether air and sea routes needed to be adjusted because of the PLA drills to ensure safety. >There have not been any announcements of flight or cargo ship cancellations.
The anon was responding to a post that said no cargo ship will be affected. I said trade would go on as usual
>To make some point?
Trade has to go on. Taiwan will use its airspace and waters as it does everyday.
china will have to purposefully start targeting ships before the Taiwan consider it a blockade and stop all traffic. be we all know how good china is at taking action.
Anon look at the scale in the bottom right, and look at the gap near Japan and the part that says "Phillipine Sea"
There's like a good 100 miles where you'd be far off course
Bit late for that innit? The Speaker already landed in Taiwan, so what are they gonna do now, keep her there? Ha, talk about your "Take my wife, please!" But even that's impossible. The old witch has important shit to do; brooms to ride, cauldrons to boil, freshman reps to turn into frogs.
>“[Between 1958 and 1964,] they issued over 900 "final warnings" to the United States for their fighter manoeuvres in the Taiwan Strait, albeit with no real consequences. Thus, it is a common sentiment in Russia that Chinese warnings are merely warnings without consequences.”
You know you've done something wrong when even the Russians make fun of your threats.
You know, some of those boxes look like they infringe on Taiwans territorial waters, I'm pretty sure that means any PLAN vessels entering them will be fired upon, assuming they enter Tiawanese waters in the process
Nah homie, one of the chink PT boats will hop a dozen or so yards into Taiwanese waters and pop out again and then the CCP will proudly tell their citizens that an entire Chinese battlegroup sailed within spitting distance of the shore and the collective populations of Taiwan and America trembled at the might of the Chinese Dragon.
oh, no they don't.
The old adage of buyer beware is live and running wild in China and they essentially don't care. Remember- >its your responsibility not to get fricked!
2 years ago
Anonymous
I would try to get out of that building in haste and that guy just keep poking at it
Welcome to 90% of new residential builds in the West as well.
Apparently in China they've been cracking down on this a lot, but everywhere has absolute dogshit building and material quality now. Friend just bought a house on a new estate, less than 6 months, slab is cracked and uneven and the ceiling is cracking and this is in Leafanada.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I've lived in some shitty apartments and never seen construction anywhere near that bad.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>leafanada
You mean the chink Latrine formerly known as leahomosexualland
2 years ago
Anonymous
European here. My house is built of solid brick with armed cement foundation.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Welcome to 90% of new residential builds in the West as well.
projection
>Leafanada.
Import Chinese, become Chinese
2 years ago
Anonymous
Maybe in the USA bit certainly not in the rest of the west xD
2 years ago
Anonymous
Maybe in the USA bit certainly not in the rest of the west xD
nice attempts at demoralization posts
2 years ago
Anonymous
at least some birbs are going to have a new home
2 years ago
Anonymous
It is only small layer, not problem.
Meanwhile in America
https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/millennium-tower-san-francisco-leaning
2 years ago
Anonymous
>It is only small layer, not problem.
You aren't kidding anyone here, now get fricked
2 years ago
Anonymous
How much does this actually matter? Isnt it the steel rebar that actually supports the load?
2 years ago
Anonymous
You'd love to see a bit of thick rebar wouldn't you, dirty little bawd
>engineering fact for the day, no its not the rebar holding it up >Concrete holds things up because it has massive amounts of compressive strength >Rebar works with tensile strength, movement, twisting, vibration etc, which concrete is bad at
2 years ago
Anonymous
You'd love to see a bit of thick rebar wouldn't you, dirty little bawd
>engineering fact for the day, no its not the rebar holding it up >Concrete holds things up because it has massive amounts of compressive strength >Rebar works with tensile strength, movement, twisting, vibration etc, which concrete is bad at
This guy rebars.
The concrete supports the building, the rebar prevents the concrete from breaking apart. Even when the concrete cracks, the rebar holds the chunks together so that they don't fall out of alignment. Think of it as a composite like epoxy-plus-fiberglass.
Western sources are starting to say ~18 months until invasion. We all know how accurate the West was about Russia's intentions were in Ukraine.
Looks like war's coming. Not going to be at all easy for China. The longer the plan and buildup prior to invasion, the more they get noticed - If they just one day decide to go and try to surprise, it means they couldn't fully prepare. In any scenario it is going to be a bloody battle and it's going to go from zero to a hundred real fricking quick before any boots even try to hit the beaches. Imagine Jutland, The Battle of Britain, Pearl Harbor, and D-Day all happening at once. China needs to simultaneously win all of them to succeed.
>Western sources are starting to say ~18 months until invasion. We all know how accurate the West was about Russia's intentions were in Ukraine.
At this point that just means China is planning, but then again they're ALWAYS "planning".
Western intel was reasonably accurate (but early) about Russia because Russia was visibly mobilizing and preparing. Not to mention that the CIA was apparently listening to every phone call that Russian generals were making to each other about it.
Still, wouldn't be surprising if Xi tries something before Biden gets voted out. Even better for China if the cackling prostitute has replaced Biden as "president" by then.
>Western sources are starting to say ~18 months until invasion.
Enough time for Taiwan to get a nuke and drop them on China in case a buildup actually happens.
>Enough time for Taiwan to get a nuke
Won't happen. Crazy cat lady doesn't like nuclear.
>Government tells building department to build and gives them money >Building department picks the cheapest builder so they can pocket most of the money
And this sort of corruption happens at every stage. Eventually a 5 billion dollar airport becomes a $200.54 tofu dreg wonder box.
This is precisely why the Chinese vehicles and boats will be the same way. Their steel won't be the right grade, their electronics will be COTS and not hardened, their rocket motors will be mystery meat compositions that can expire, etc.
Its the same fricking thing because Chinese corruption is not any better than Russian corruption. It is just as rife, its just more organized.
Thats like a horror action movie. >be new guy on job site >lots of weird shit constantly happening >even the seasoned grunts are wondering wtf is going on >walk on a platform at the top of the structure looking around >see a hole in some of the material >take a peek at it >yfw
Then start showing the entire structure just fall apart after a rain storm or whatever, and everyone has to work their way down as its imploding. Maybe call it something cheesy like Escape From Shang-High or something.
Chinese. Cheat, steal, swindle, lie.
On top of that the Chinese won't care if they are caught doing all aforementioned.
This is THE NATIONAL MOTTO of China.
If things go hot then I expect a very quick Chinese bombardment. One which causes a lot of damage and deaths, but does not suppress defenses. From that point the Chinese will begin taking heavy naval losses and any invasion force will have a bad time. And that's all within the first few hours, it only goes worse for China when other nations go "What the hell is wrong with you?" and mobilizes. With what happened to Putin in Ukraine, it would take a special kind of idiot to start a shooting war in the Pacific.
>guys I totally dont know this is a regular Chinese exercise ahead of an anual aniversary making Amerimutts seethe every year a....am I still coping about China?
Why are Amerimutt bugmen like this?
glowies would know if china was about to invade you would hear endless screeching for weeks before the invasion happens. any invasion does just happen overnight. it takes lot of preparation and mobilisaton.
this is just china being china. china hasn't done anything in 75 years and they will do absolutely nothing in 2 weeks
glowies would know if china was about to invade you would hear endless screeching for weeks before the invasion happens. any invasion does just happen overnight. it takes lot of preparation and mobilisaton.
this is just china being china. china hasn't done anything in 75 years and they will do absolutely nothing in 2 weeks
Well, the problem is usually US is not that open about sharing information like this, almost a years of warming in case of Ukraine was something unusual. But yeah probably they would also do that in case of Taiwan
The dragon empire rises!
China is still not ready for a war, but at the same time they are loosing ground (economically and by allying with Russia). So this actually maye be the best moment for them to attack
No, but they're practicing for when they blockade Taiwan.
Honestly I think people are being too dismissive of the the Chinese response to Pelosi's visit. While it was definitely humiliating that they weren't able to stop Pelosi from visiting, and ordinary Chinese are currently seething at the CCP, the response is still unprecedented.
The live fire areas in red on the map in pic related are all right by major Taiwanese ports. Just compare them to where the live fire exercises were in 1996.This really is a practice run for blockading Taiwan, which is something they've never seriously drilled for before. It's also the first time the live fire areas are all across the median line and within Taiwan's territorial waters. So it'll probably set a precedent where the PLA will now completely disregard's Taiwan's territorial waters, like they do in the South China Sea towards other nations.
Sorta but not really.
Showing that they could do so at any time, but aren't going to now (or rather probably can't do so right now).
Basically its a way for them to try and have their cake and eat it too. Show they could blockade the Taiwanese without actually doing it, while still fricking with their port system.
The israelite shills have already come up with a cover story for the war. Fact is, America is fricked but will secretly be within the Soviet axis of power by 2027, and things will be more or less the same.
Why are you gays obsessed with China?
If you had two braincells to rub together you'd know they can't fight the US navy, that the malacca straight is a bottleneck for all their impot and export.
It's all show and understandbly too. At least wait a few years until they build all those oil and gas pipeline through pakistan and russia to secure their economy before you think they'll declare war to conquer taiwan.
If anything they'll subdue the island by infiltrating the governement and having a majority vote from the population to join the mainland peacefully, lol.
I know this board is very american centric, but man this is dumb premise day after day is getting stale.
>Why are you gays obsessed with China?
These threads are like a pro-Russian Telegram channel, except instead of seething obsessively about America, it's Americans seething obsessively about China. It's a mix of existential fear and insecurity. Russians know they're inferior to America, and Americans know they're inferior to the Chinese. These threads, like vatBlack person "USA bad" threads, exist as copium. That's literally it. It's just a way to deal with your fears and anxieties.
why isn't a permaban handed to every moron that makes an ITS HAPPENING thread every time territorial air and waters are tested
it's no coincidence that it only happens on slow news days when tabloid rags wheel out the BEAR FOUGHT OFF BY BRAVE BRITISH TYPHOONS or CHINA GEARS UP FOR INVASION WITH WEEKLY AIRSPACE PROBING LIKE EVERYONE DOES
Posting in a thread to say you shitskins will never be human and will die in droves again. This time nuclear fire will De-louse the Eurasian continent. gays and israelites will be euthanized for trying to stop it.
Hail Hitler
Hail McArthur
Remember those favourite films of yours that you watched as a child. Remember your favourite super heroes. What would they say of you now? Do you think they’re impressed?
I wonder what all the good souls and spirits you idolize are saying to you right now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I only idolize myself and Stirner.
I can tell you’re weird as hell and your posting style is reminiscent of some /x/ schizo, so take your meds and get the frick off my board.
2 years ago
Anonymous
What does the voice of Moses and the israeli people say to you right now, israelite?
I know you want to be loved and for your people to be loved. And there are good ways to be loved.
>Remember those favourite films of yours that you watched as a child. Remember your favourite super heroes. What would they say of you now? Do you think they’re impressed
Go to reddit, you'll find those moronic homosexuals there.
Have you ever believed in god?
Have you ever prayed?
Have you ever believed in a better world?
Have you ever had dreams infinitely greater than the ones you are having now?
What would your friends say?
What would your lovers say?
What would your family say?
If they see you right now.
2 years ago
Anonymous
the cheap photoshopped pics go hand in hand with the shallow philosophical babbling
2 years ago
Anonymous
If we’re just babbling then come and shoot us in the head.
Come shoot the Americans while you’re at it for not loving you.
Shoot the Europeans for not accepting israel as their god and choosing love as their god instead
Kill countless children and yell out! “All babbling! Schizos!” As you shout them and burn down their homes
Have you ever believed in god?
Have you ever prayed?
Have you ever believed in a better world?
Have you ever had dreams infinitely greater than the ones you are having now?
What would your friends say?
What would your lovers say?
What would your family say?
If they see you right now.
https://i.imgur.com/9wfRemq.jpg
The only god is love.
The only motive is love.
The only moral is love.
The only way is love.
The heart of all feelings is love.
https://i.imgur.com/LsvenqX.jpg
Never.
This world isn’t a toy.
What do you think god thinks of you right now.
Remember those favourite films of yours that you watched as a child. Remember your favourite super heroes. What would they say of you now? Do you think they’re impressed?
Korea is the ONE conflict involving the US over the last 100 years in which it can be said the US did not win. It was a stalemate — comically in favor of the US, but still a stalemate. It’s the one war the 3rd-world brown and yellow diaspora have to cling to when desperately coping over America’s super dominance in war.
Yes. Lack of response by US will lead to further escalation from China. If you give an inch, they take a mile. They've done this since the 90s and now they're doing effective blockades.
Xi wouldn't have set a deadline of 2049 if he were planning on doing this any time soon. This is all just posturing and it will be posturing for another 10 years at least. We can stop having these threads freaking out every time he postures. Putin did similar shit for decades with Ukraine before he finally pulled the trigger.
Wrong. Things have changed. Covid is exposing the party for being incompetent. They are still trying to quarantine people and there are protests/riots all over the place.
Now add the Evergrande crisis, where an entire generation of young professionals already paid for a house and that money is gone.
Now add Xi trying to change the "rules" by essentially removing the 2 term/10 year limit on being the PM and making himself the defacto Supreme Leader of China.
China is running out of time, and has a ticking time bomb in the form of a surplus of 100 million me to women.
China isnt waiting till 2049 and youd be an idiot to think so. China will go for Taiwan within the decade.
The US is facing a major class war resulting in either a Civil war, or a military junta coup.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>The US is facing a major class war
That's got nothing to do with China though, and all it takes for the US to kill China are two destroyers in the Strait of Hormuz.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Well if you werent a victim of the US public school system, you could probably reread my original response and realize that I never said China would beat the US in a war. I merely claimed that the US would eventually balkanize, since a generation of battle-hardened soldiers returning home from China, would probably not be content with the state of US politics.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>I merely claimed that the US would eventually balkanize,
No: >The war with China will balkanize the USA silly.
Didn't even read the rest, moron.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>No: >Didn't even read the rest, moron.
Well, you should. You might learn something.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Oh yeah, those crewmen on those two destroyers are really going to do a number once they're home. You are a waste of time and effort, mate.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>You are a waste of time and effort, mate.
Irony, thy name is "well beat China in 2 weeks". Schools out, dont (you) me again.
2 years ago
Anonymous
Nah, it's gonna take a year. By then 500 million Chinese have died due to famine because they could neither import food nor agricultural products. But keep coping and seething, Mao.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>posting zeihan unironically
oof
2 years ago
Anonymous
Not an argument, CSD.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>posting zeihan unironically
oof
I don't know if you guys noticed, but Taiwan imports (much) more of its food than China does.
I'd thought it was only about 33% but that chart says 50%-75%. That may be because Taiwan exports a lot of food also, so 33% would be the net.
2 years ago
Anonymous
It's also assumed that Taiwan would be on the Ukraine side of the equation as in "entire industrialized world lined up to suck up to them"
2 years ago
Anonymous
After all, Taiwan is the place with the advanced semiconductor manufacturing, so if you want your new iPhones GPUs. . . .
2 years ago
Anonymous
Hope that Taiwan's got enough reserves, because they won't get any supplies. The Chinese are not capable of protecting their oil supplies, but they have no issues reaching Taiwan and beyond.
2 years ago
Anonymous
I have doubts the Chinese could actually blockade the Phillipine-facing side of the island
2 years ago
Anonymous
I don't. The Chinese navy isn't blue-water capable since their ships only have a reach of about 300 miles in war times, but that's enough for Taiwan, which has its closest distance to China at 70 miles. And the Chinese got a *lot* of them.
2 years ago
Anonymous
>Produce nothing but beef milk and butter >Most food insecure country in Europe
Potato-bros...We got too wienery
2 years ago
Anonymous
Protein-based calories take up lots of plant-based ones.
>Implying that's not a bad thing
If the patriot-tards want to fight for a country that hates their own people, that's on them and they will pay for their sins.
So far I've seen the January 6th rioters being uncomfortably reasonable, as opposed to "becoming unreasonable". >a.k.a. they won't do shit because they're pussies
2 years ago
Anonymous
>expecting conservatives to be reactionaries
lol
2 years ago
Anonymous
The Republican party is changing, and I wouldn't even call them conservatives anymore. Notices how the national security community is actively being branded as traitorous by them? How the business community is completely abandoned? Populists took over with Trump, but so far I've only ever seen them LARPing. The tree of liberty is parched.
>Now add Xi trying to change the "rules" by essentially removing the 2 term/10 year limit on being the PM and making himself the defacto Supreme Leader of China.
He already did that. He's on his third term now.
Western sources are starting to say ~18 months until invasion. We all know how accurate the West was about Russia's intentions were in Ukraine.
Looks like war's coming. Not going to be at all easy for China. The longer the plan and buildup prior to invasion, the more they get noticed - If they just one day decide to go and try to surprise, it means they couldn't fully prepare. In any scenario it is going to be a bloody battle and it's going to go from zero to a hundred real fricking quick before any boots even try to hit the beaches. Imagine Jutland, The Battle of Britain, Pearl Harbor, and D-Day all happening at once. China needs to simultaneously win all of them to succeed.
>Western sources are starting to say ~18 months until invasion.
Enough time for Taiwan to get a nuke and drop them on China in case a buildup actually happens.
Keep in mind the island has been fortifying for decades. Even if some defenses are older, they work.
Now is the time for the Taiwanese to practice how they will fight. Endure heavy initial bombardment, disperse concentrations of forces, have a way to quickly rally and respond. Much like the Ukrainians did.
>18 months
They realistically need a bare minimum 10 years even assuming the US doesn't intervene (it will). Two "rivals" humiliated in three years, without even firing a shot, how does the USA keep doing it bros?
Doubtful. They know they need a better nuclear deterrent which is why they're going all-out on increasing their arsenal. They'll need a few years to crank themselves up to 1000 warheads. At that point they'll have convincing MAD and their conventional forces will be freed.
I dunno. If there's one thing different between chinks and Vatniks it's that China can bide its time, try to covertly choke it's opposition and be so integral to other countries that the concept of a world without them is harder to swallow than a world at peace. Russia also has to contend with demographic collapse, crippling brain drain and economic stagnation. China will probably run into all these problems in the future but they have a good chance of figuring out some rational plan rather than chimping out and invading it's neighbour. They also (possibly) won't feed their people into a meat grinder like they could in the old days. Even if they did do it . Chips are valuable, and we can afford to sanction Russia forever, not China.
>Russia also has to contend with demographic collapse, crippling brain drain and economic stagnation. China will probably run into all these problems in the future
They're running into them already. The Chinese real estate sector is imploding, millions of citizens are already refusing to pay their mortgages for properties that have ceased construction, banks are failing, and corruption is making it all worse. As far as the demographic collapse, do you remember that leak of one billion police records a month or so back? The hacker posted a quarter of a million random records online as a free sample, and they show that China is already in population decline. Zeihan remarked that the leaked data shows that things are even worse than his worst-case estimate.
https://i.imgur.com/kV7oK8b.jpg
>China can bide its time
Not really. The yellow bars don't exist.
Yep, that was Zeihan's "worst case" chart. And the Shanghai police data leak shows that the birth rate has been falsified significantly more than even that. IIRC it was about a 30% shortfall below his worst-case estimate.
China already blew its chance to gradually/peacefully takeover. Their harsh words and treatment of places like Hong Kong showed what the reality of CCP rule would be.
No one wants to live under that. And even if many are reluctant to fight, when facing actual war (and no way to get off the island) then I think you would see many take up arms.
No, they'll lob some round in the ocean and call it a win.
They are literally blocking all of the important Taiwanese ports with war ships firing live rounds is everyone here moronic lmao
Least delusional chicom bugs
kek
Wow such a blockade!
this, it's not even active yet you dumb c**ts
They won't do shit, mainland chinks are weak homosexuals. That are all bluster, moron "wolf warrior" homosexualry.
I agree with the sentiment that this will amount to nothing, but I still feel like civilian/commercial vessels might choose to avoid going through an active live-fire exercise all the same.
>Avoid mountains of wealth because you're scared of plywood junks setting off bottle rockets
Somehow I doubt it.
I'm team west too anon but calling them plywood junks is just being disingenuous. You can kill someone with a bottle rocket if you're motivated enough, and even if everything they make is tofu it's still packed with explosives. If anything they'll reroute sea traffic. pic rel, I looked it up after typing that last sentence because I assumed they avoided making any official announcements regarding any reroutes while a foreign diplomat was there
I'm half expecting the Biden administration to throw the Taiwanese some weapons too now since they hold far more strategic importance than the Ukraine.
>China tries to act tough
>US decides to send the Taiwanese some ASHMs, Patriots, and old fighters
>CCP just complain about how this hurts the feelings of the Chinese people
China was probably banking on Russia tying NATO resources up significantly.
>cement
ssshhhh don't say that, that causes erecticle dysfunction in the yeng doa shzu
And it won't be. A blockade is an act of war. No different then a bombing run on a city. China is going to kick off WW3 tonight without any troops in position or any other kind of support for the fleet.
So we're not even in the 'Is the blockade working?' phase yet? We're still in the 'Are they even going to go through with it?' phase?
So you're saying they still haven't done shit?
no we're in the "you're an uneducated armchair general with no grasp on reality" phase
Nah, It looks like we've move on to the 'Project your insecurities to random people in a Mongolian basket weaving forum' phase.
>rerouting
It's not much of a blockade if most shit can get through tho is it?
>uneducated
>muh Educate yourself chud
Calm down, Michael Jackson. I think you're forgetting you're not on Twitter.
>important
>Taiwanese
pick one
you don't know what a blockade means do you?
It's a quasi blockade. During exercises the navy announces the range of their battle space and civilian ships are prevented from entering. China is essentially saying we could expand the scope of the exercises and cut off Taiwanese ports.
>we could
famous last words
Wouldn't is a strong word in politics
>will go through just fine
Why would civilian ships knowingly enter a live fire area? To make some point?
>To make some point?
Trade has to go on. Taiwan will use its airspace and waters as it does everyday.
china will have to purposefully start targeting ships before the Taiwan consider it a blockade and stop all traffic. be we all know how good china is at taking action.
They could but they won't
>battle space and civilian ships are prevented from entering
civilian ships and planes will go throguh just fine and china won't do anything. this isn't the first time their doing this
Anon I…
>south china sea
>US Navy SUBPAC immediately denies all involvement in some undisclosed incident
>3 hours later, news breaks that a Chinese CSG has gone missing
more like 1 week later, USN announced that they have lost contact with all submarines in the pacific.
Best to lose contact immediately after the changs try something stupid to avoid culpability.
just like what happened to the seawolf last time? "seamount" seems like an adequate cope.
Cope for what? Chinese subs are worse than 1970s-era Soviet boats and never have I once seen anything suggesting that they are competent at ASW. The morons couldn't even build a diesel-electric boat without the engine asphyxiating the entire crew due to poor design.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_submarine_361
Neverserved but I thought due to nature of submarines, the USN opsec is basically no one knows where subs are unless they tell us, upper brass only knows their orders and where they’re going.
US Navy SUBPAC have spent the last 80 years gaping asiatic ass from sea to shining fricking sea
Good luck.
sorry mcfarter your going to have to win this one without nukes or disease bombs, because all humanity dies in that scenario.
>sorry mcfarter your going to have to win this one without nukes or disease bombs
Lol
>because all humanity dies in that scenario.
Lmao
>SDI
>Multiple Kill Vehicles
>MARAUDER
While the chinks were busy gunning down students at tianamen square DARPA was plucking warheads out of orbit. In the event of a total nuclear exchange (a complete impossiblity) china would be at the complete and utter mercy of the US. The idea that china could even compete the the US, much less beat them, is pure fantasy.
Inb4
>muh quantum tech
>muh hypersoooonics
>muh trannies/gays/Black folk
Imagine trying to dab on China using a MacArthur meme.....the general historically famous for getting shit canned for being so ass blasted over his UN task force's ass getting kicked 6 ways to Sunday by an unsupported 99% infantry chink army, he wanted to drop 50 nukes on the Chinese
Lol the existence of South Korea and chink death toll states something else Black personnose LOL.
Only communist homosexuals like israelites and other asiatics disagree with mcarthur and are eternally kvetching to paint him in a poor light when all he ever was: was right.
>Getting this mad when he's proven wrong he has to resort to a library's worth of buzzwords
Lol. Cool your jets lady.
>We didn't even want to unite Korea and remove a Chinese-Soviet puppet that threatened US positions in Japan!
Cope more, Black person
>North invades south with goal of forceful reunification
>Gets their shit raped back to the Chinese border
>Barely manages to scrape out a status quo antebellum
>Uhh actually the north won!
I hope you realize how little sense this makes
No. A blockade is an officially recognized act of war.
Taiwan is not at war with China.
The most significant aspect of the Korean War is, once again, American wifflewaffling on how to handle the post-conflict politics, which is fricked up beyond repair by allowing North Korea to come into existence
The issue with this is that North Korea was already in existence, the war didn't allow it to come into existence. All the Korean war did was insure the existence of south korea
the saddest fricking part is i know in a few years morons are gonna be using this same logic about the russia/ukraine war
>yeah ukraine still exists as a nation and even reclaimed captured areas in the donbass, but crimea is still russian so that means russia won the war!
The solution to this is simple, we keep shipping weapons to Ukraine until they liberate Crimea
>>We didn't even want to unite Korea and remove a Chinese-Soviet puppet that threatened US positions in Japan!
Black person, keeping the south was the main reason they were there in the first place. MacArthur was even fired for going too far north.
The existence of North Korea is McArthur's biggest failure and he's a pathetic, mewling shitstain on our otherwise glorious military history, you dumb cuckold.
The fact pic related was allowed to happen is a complete embarrassment for MacArthur. Only reason the US forces apart of that offensive didn't get completely annihilated was thanks to airstrikes running around the clock.
>we would have won if we hadn't lost
Ping pong bing bong, sum ting wong to you too, my fine yellow friend.
>Only reason the US forces apart of that offensive didn't get completely annihilated was thanks to airstrikes running around the clock.
So the only reason they weren't overran by 1 million chinks was because the Airforce was doing it's job and nullified your manpower advantage? Wow, Chang, it's almost as if the military has multiple branches that support each other.
>They needed 6 Chinks to match just one UN soldier
>this is something to brag about
As a person from a shithole that prides itself on "peacekeeping" because we are so unthreatening that nobody has any grudge against us, based chinks. If you want to get blown up by Israelis for being in the way like Cpl Dermot McLaughlin, be my guest.
Worthless cowards as usual. Useless outside piracy like most commies.
You do know they launched the offensive when they did because the weather was too bad to allow air support. So no it wasn't around the clock.
>lose half your men to a retreating army
>dont even stop the retreat
Go suck some more micro chink dick you frickin tourist
He's infamous for being shitcanned because Truman and Euros didn't like him. He technically didn't do anything worth shitcanning (he did all orders to a tee, and stretched it but never violating anything) except not giving a shit what the president has to say with his Europe-First policies because he saw the communist Asian threat to be more pressing. He is quite literally the definition of "didn't do anything wrong."
> The Joint Chiefs agreed that there was "little evidence that General MacArthur had ever failed to carry out a direct order of the Joint Chiefs, or acted in opposition to an order". "In point of fact", Bradley insisted, "MacArthur had stretched but not legally violated any JCS directives. He had violated the President's 6 December directive [not to make public statements on policy matters], relayed to him by the JCS, but this did not constitute violation of a JCS order."[368] Truman ordered MacArthur's relief by Ridgway, and the order went out on 10 April with Bradley's signature.
the MacArthur in that chink flick about the battle of Chosin is fricking hilarious, it's worth the entire movie just for that dude
>It's a quasi blockade
Its a recurring exercise.
>Why would
They wont. They never do. They are more likely to collide with another US tincan destroyer than enter the waters when they are blocked off. Its just the usual feel good rethoric because lying on the internet is cheap when mods are feds.
>prevented from entering
No,no
Don't you fly there!
This is
My No-fly square!
We need a smug pepe U2 with a seething chinese wojak
We also need a monke Xi meme, like monke Putin.
I actually didn't even know it was still in service what the frick
The Dragon lady is packed with some of the best spy gear you can get. They also use it as a high speed data relay between the F-35 and F-22 so the systems can talk to each other. I don't think it's going anywhere. Imagine each pod(and the nose) as a spy sat, but flying at 70kft. It's much cheaper, has longer on station time, and flexibility than the spy sats.
It was recently upgraded with the f35's sensor suite so now it can even do AWACS shit in addition to all its other capabilities
Turns out that building something before miniaturization means you can fit a lot of miniaturized components into it.
Reconnaissance =/= espionage, and idiot journalists should know this.
This. They'll kill a bunch of fish and call it a glorious victory of the communist party over Taiwan.
Are.. are you just moronic?
they are just regaining face pls understand
The wok is being covered
The duck is simmering
the doggo is in the wok
The poodle is being skinned
Kitty is on the hotplate
the bat is being eaten
The kid is being beaten
The kid is being seasoned
The tso has entered the general
Fricking memes coming to life again
>"The six zones were chosen for their importance in a potential campaign to seal off Taiwan and thwart foreign intervention," said Major General Meng Xiangqing in an interview on Chinese state television. "The zone near Kaohsiung in southern Taiwan, where there are crucial bases, creates conditions to bolt the door and beat the dog."
In just two weeks the door will be bolted and the dog will be beaten.
>Dog will be eaten*
The duck is being pekinged
The leg is in the escalator
The hand is in the lathe
Do you have the one of that chink closing that industrial blast door thing on his friend? Think it was in a lab or something, they were both in full body suits but you knew it was China from the moonrunes on the labels around the place and on their suits.
The dog is frying
But this is a
This is a
NO FRY ZONE.
The van is self combusting
The LiveLeak logo is appearing
>gloves
In American Factory the Chinese workers don't even wear gloves handling broken glass.
The Oil is getting guttered.
The dim sum is inside the steamer basket.
The chinsect is being flattened by his own forklift.
The fleet is sinking. HORY SHEET. THE FLEET IS SINKING!
The nerve gas is leaking.
The Girders are bending.
The roadkill child is being ignored
The infant girl is taken to the river.
The pedestrian has been run over
>The gutter oil is being drained
The cat is being chopped
The sparrows are being eliminated.
The protesters are being flattened
Nothing is happening in Tianamen square
No, there's plenty of space between those red squares to sneak Pelosi in and out.
>Did...did
Please stop this fricking reddit-tier posting of pretending you are at a loss of words of whatever it is supposed to be. It looks gayer than shit.
pwease daddy don't be angwyy :3 UwU
No
Do something about it
Spacing
China's entire navy will be disabled in about 1 hour and 22 minutes
China is going to learn a very long and very hard lesson.
Which one? The republic or the one on the occupied mainland?
The dragon empire rises!
It doesn't really matter that much if China is in a position to shoot down Pelosi's plane, since they're not going to do it even if it took a detour over Beijing
The rice cooker is closing
No, they drew some lines on a fricking map
The hoisin is pouring.
china is putting the food down and issuing the last warming
no.
name one cargo ship that's affected.
name one cargo ship that will be going through these waters while a live-fire exercise is occurring
The USNS Twinkie.
Chinese live fire, the only thing on fire will be their ships, swimming scrapyard that they call fleet.
>The Taiwanese government said it was studying whether air and sea routes needed to be adjusted because of the PLA drills to ensure safety.
>There have not been any announcements of flight or cargo ship cancellations.
Heckuva blockade Jinpingy
Such a blockade!
may be more effective when the exersize goes live at 0400 utc
why name one
it looks like they diverted around it perfectly which is exactly what that anon was saying so I don't get your point
The anon was responding to a post that said no cargo ship will be affected. I said trade would go on as usual
and that this was not a blockade
Anon look at the scale in the bottom right, and look at the gap near Japan and the part that says "Phillipine Sea"
There's like a good 100 miles where you'd be far off course
the cat is in the wok
The pp is putting into coke
Strange. Doesn’t seem blockaded to me.
The dog is being boiled (alive)
Bit late for that innit? The Speaker already landed in Taiwan, so what are they gonna do now, keep her there? Ha, talk about your "Take my wife, please!" But even that's impossible. The old witch has important shit to do; brooms to ride, cauldrons to boil, freshman reps to turn into frogs.
it's their final warning
>“[Between 1958 and 1964,] they issued over 900 "final warnings" to the United States for their fighter manoeuvres in the Taiwan Strait, albeit with no real consequences. Thus, it is a common sentiment in Russia that Chinese warnings are merely warnings without consequences.”
You know you've done something wrong when even the Russians make fun of your threats.
Oof
The first Russian bant?
You know, some of those boxes look like they infringe on Taiwans territorial waters, I'm pretty sure that means any PLAN vessels entering them will be fired upon, assuming they enter Tiawanese waters in the process
Nah homie, one of the chink PT boats will hop a dozen or so yards into Taiwanese waters and pop out again and then the CCP will proudly tell their citizens that an entire Chinese battlegroup sailed within spitting distance of the shore and the collective populations of Taiwan and America trembled at the might of the Chinese Dragon.
The cement is being packed (with rice)
No use rice, its plastic anyway
Use cardboard
what the frick...
How did you think China was able to build so much infrastructure so quickly?
they sell that shit to neighbors and use the actual good (comparatively) shit for themselves
The building collapses in China suggest otherwise
hence
>(comparatively)
oh, no they don't.
The old adage of buyer beware is live and running wild in China and they essentially don't care. Remember-
>its your responsibility not to get fricked!
I would try to get out of that building in haste and that guy just keep poking at it
I love this kind of shit
Whoah, whoah, whoa. Careful there, Chang. That's load bearing corncrete.
>corncrete
>cobcrete
cobity warr insuration
Welcome to 90% of new residential builds in the West as well.
Apparently in China they've been cracking down on this a lot, but everywhere has absolute dogshit building and material quality now. Friend just bought a house on a new estate, less than 6 months, slab is cracked and uneven and the ceiling is cracking and this is in Leafanada.
I've lived in some shitty apartments and never seen construction anywhere near that bad.
>leafanada
You mean the chink Latrine formerly known as leahomosexualland
European here. My house is built of solid brick with armed cement foundation.
>Welcome to 90% of new residential builds in the West as well.
projection
>Leafanada.
Import Chinese, become Chinese
Maybe in the USA bit certainly not in the rest of the west xD
nice attempts at demoralization posts
at least some birbs are going to have a new home
It is only small layer, not problem.
Meanwhile in America
https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/millennium-tower-san-francisco-leaning
>It is only small layer, not problem.
You aren't kidding anyone here, now get fricked
How much does this actually matter? Isnt it the steel rebar that actually supports the load?
You'd love to see a bit of thick rebar wouldn't you, dirty little bawd
>engineering fact for the day, no its not the rebar holding it up
>Concrete holds things up because it has massive amounts of compressive strength
>Rebar works with tensile strength, movement, twisting, vibration etc, which concrete is bad at
This guy rebars.
The concrete supports the building, the rebar prevents the concrete from breaking apart. Even when the concrete cracks, the rebar holds the chunks together so that they don't fall out of alignment. Think of it as a composite like epoxy-plus-fiberglass.
>Western sources are starting to say ~18 months until invasion. We all know how accurate the West was about Russia's intentions were in Ukraine.
At this point that just means China is planning, but then again they're ALWAYS "planning".
Western intel was reasonably accurate (but early) about Russia because Russia was visibly mobilizing and preparing. Not to mention that the CIA was apparently listening to every phone call that Russian generals were making to each other about it.
Still, wouldn't be surprising if Xi tries something before Biden gets voted out. Even better for China if the cackling prostitute has replaced Biden as "president" by then.
>Enough time for Taiwan to get a nuke
Won't happen. Crazy cat lady doesn't like nuclear.
didn't pay the bribes
>Government tells building department to build and gives them money
>Building department picks the cheapest builder so they can pocket most of the money
And this sort of corruption happens at every stage. Eventually a 5 billion dollar airport becomes a $200.54 tofu dreg wonder box.
This is precisely why the Chinese vehicles and boats will be the same way. Their steel won't be the right grade, their electronics will be COTS and not hardened, their rocket motors will be mystery meat compositions that can expire, etc.
Its the same fricking thing because Chinese corruption is not any better than Russian corruption. It is just as rife, its just more organized.
Wake up babe new tofu-dreg video just dropped
Thats like a horror action movie.
>be new guy on job site
>lots of weird shit constantly happening
>even the seasoned grunts are wondering wtf is going on
>walk on a platform at the top of the structure looking around
>see a hole in some of the material
>take a peek at it
>yfw
Then start showing the entire structure just fall apart after a rain storm or whatever, and everyone has to work their way down as its imploding. Maybe call it something cheesy like Escape From Shang-High or something.
Shanghai Rise
I dunno, maybe
>30 Story Tofu
>Towah of Twubble
>An Investment property too far
Were these intentional demolitions or "oh frick the new building we put up just collapsed"?
From memory, they're intentional but just done extremely badly enough to cause enough chaos and trauma as possible
Why they do it? Doesn't make sense.
If a man pays you to build a concrete building, and you buy cardboard that looks like concrete, you make more money.
Shit, homie, concrete is expensive.
this is from 2020 when they were putting up all those fake hospitals
Chinese. Cheat, steal, swindle, lie.
On top of that the Chinese won't care if they are caught doing all aforementioned.
This is THE NATIONAL MOTTO of China.
Wake up already.
I've been holding off buying new PC parts and a mouse and stuff for a year now, think I should go ahead and pull the trigger before the Chinese do?
Yes
holy shit yes, it was bad enough with the chip shortage but now its gonna be russia v2
thank god Mao is dead and a pussy is in power now
If things go hot then I expect a very quick Chinese bombardment. One which causes a lot of damage and deaths, but does not suppress defenses. From that point the Chinese will begin taking heavy naval losses and any invasion force will have a bad time. And that's all within the first few hours, it only goes worse for China when other nations go "What the hell is wrong with you?" and mobilizes. With what happened to Putin in Ukraine, it would take a special kind of idiot to start a shooting war in the Pacific.
yeah I'm sure the chinese are utterly terrified of winning.
>guys I totally dont know this is a regular Chinese exercise ahead of an anual aniversary making Amerimutts seethe every year a....am I still coping about China?
Why are Amerimutt bugmen like this?
Just like how February was a totally normal annual Russian exercise... right?
glowies would know if china was about to invade you would hear endless screeching for weeks before the invasion happens. any invasion does just happen overnight. it takes lot of preparation and mobilisaton.
this is just china being china. china hasn't done anything in 75 years and they will do absolutely nothing in 2 weeks
Right, look at how much the US told everyone what was happening in December-February. Every reason to guess that there’d be similar forewarning.
Well, the problem is usually US is not that open about sharing information like this, almost a years of warming in case of Ukraine was something unusual. But yeah probably they would also do that in case of Taiwan
China is still not ready for a war, but at the same time they are loosing ground (economically and by allying with Russia). So this actually maye be the best moment for them to attack
why would you blockade part of your own country chang?
No, but they're practicing for when they blockade Taiwan.
Honestly I think people are being too dismissive of the the Chinese response to Pelosi's visit. While it was definitely humiliating that they weren't able to stop Pelosi from visiting, and ordinary Chinese are currently seething at the CCP, the response is still unprecedented.
The live fire areas in red on the map in pic related are all right by major Taiwanese ports. Just compare them to where the live fire exercises were in 1996.This really is a practice run for blockading Taiwan, which is something they've never seriously drilled for before. It's also the first time the live fire areas are all across the median line and within Taiwan's territorial waters. So it'll probably set a precedent where the PLA will now completely disregard's Taiwan's territorial waters, like they do in the South China Sea towards other nations.
9km can be watched from a Taiwan beach
Sorta but not really.
Showing that they could do so at any time, but aren't going to now (or rather probably can't do so right now).
Basically its a way for them to try and have their cake and eat it too. Show they could blockade the Taiwanese without actually doing it, while still fricking with their port system.
The israelite shills have already come up with a cover story for the war. Fact is, America is fricked but will secretly be within the Soviet axis of power by 2027, and things will be more or less the same.
They are war gaming and training for blockade but not actually doing it.
Why are you gays obsessed with China?
If you had two braincells to rub together you'd know they can't fight the US navy, that the malacca straight is a bottleneck for all their impot and export.
It's all show and understandbly too. At least wait a few years until they build all those oil and gas pipeline through pakistan and russia to secure their economy before you think they'll declare war to conquer taiwan.
If anything they'll subdue the island by infiltrating the governement and having a majority vote from the population to join the mainland peacefully, lol.
I know this board is very american centric, but man this is dumb premise day after day is getting stale.
>Why are you gays obsessed with China?
These threads are like a pro-Russian Telegram channel, except instead of seething obsessively about America, it's Americans seething obsessively about China. It's a mix of existential fear and insecurity. Russians know they're inferior to America, and Americans know they're inferior to the Chinese. These threads, like vatBlack person "USA bad" threads, exist as copium. That's literally it. It's just a way to deal with your fears and anxieties.
uh huh
why isn't a permaban handed to every moron that makes an ITS HAPPENING thread every time territorial air and waters are tested
it's no coincidence that it only happens on slow news days when tabloid rags wheel out the BEAR FOUGHT OFF BY BRAVE BRITISH TYPHOONS or CHINA GEARS UP FOR INVASION WITH WEEKLY AIRSPACE PROBING LIKE EVERYONE DOES
I love China.
Now this is the kind of propaganda I can appreciate
Dance in the wind with me, sweet summer child.
The white populists are now rising everywhere too.
And it is good.
Why doesn't Taiwan just sink any CCP ship that enters their territorial waters?
If you have to ask, you're literally too fricking stupid to have even a kindergarten level discussion about geopolitics.
They absolutely will do that if it happens, which is why no chink ships will enter their waters
POPULISTS
PATRIOTS
LOVERS
DREAMERS
TAKE YOUR COUNTRIES
EVERYONE IS UNITED
tfw too old to claim chink war bride in Sino-American war
The world shall never fall!
The story has only just begun!
Lets dance!
Dance over the dead ends!
The Immortality War!
For real progress!
For innovation!
For your souls!
For your people!
And your true society!
Believe in an ever better world!
Scarcity isn’t real!
We give you all!
We are true love!
Rise forever!
Other way around, namegay.
Posting in a thread to say you shitskins will never be human and will die in droves again. This time nuclear fire will De-louse the Eurasian continent. gays and israelites will be euthanized for trying to stop it.
Hail Hitler
Hail McArthur
You’re obviously Israeli.
Everyone knows.
Get a life. No war is happening.
>it's afraid
HELP /k/
I'M MOVING TO TAWIAN TOMORROW
Can I join the US military reserves if I take a plane down to Okinawa every month for training?
So that's where all the new sunken ship reefs will go? It's good for the fish.
I love Chinese.
Me too, I fricked a young chinese prostitute for 50 bucks once, pretty good, she was tight af.
where do you find them so cheap?
Chinese give me high elf sort of vibes
Did it happen yet or are they still making threats.
Kill the chinks sino war now!!!
Are you making a moral choice?
Are you making a choice that god loves?
I feel for American and European populists who wish for real progress. For the true soul of their nations and people.
Besides, why should Taiwan be subject to any force that behaves in such a way.
Do Americans want their current government to govern others?
There is something called “do unto others “
Frick off homosexual.
Never.
This world isn’t a toy.
What do you think god thinks of you right now.
Remember those favourite films of yours that you watched as a child. Remember your favourite super heroes. What would they say of you now? Do you think they’re impressed?
If we go to war with China I’m going to sign up to be an 11B just for the chance to shoot some chinks.
I wonder what all the good souls and spirits you idolize are saying to you right now.
I only idolize myself and Stirner.
I can tell you’re weird as hell and your posting style is reminiscent of some /x/ schizo, so take your meds and get the frick off my board.
What does the voice of Moses and the israeli people say to you right now, israelite?
I know you want to be loved and for your people to be loved. And there are good ways to be loved.
It says you're gay
>Remember those favourite films of yours that you watched as a child. Remember your favourite super heroes. What would they say of you now? Do you think they’re impressed
Go to reddit, you'll find those moronic homosexuals there.
Have you ever believed in god?
Have you ever prayed?
Have you ever believed in a better world?
Have you ever had dreams infinitely greater than the ones you are having now?
What would your friends say?
What would your lovers say?
What would your family say?
If they see you right now.
the cheap photoshopped pics go hand in hand with the shallow philosophical babbling
If we’re just babbling then come and shoot us in the head.
Come shoot the Americans while you’re at it for not loving you.
Shoot the Europeans for not accepting israel as their god and choosing love as their god instead
Kill countless children and yell out! “All babbling! Schizos!” As you shout them and burn down their homes
My oh my
Do you impress yourself?
The only god is love.
The only motive is love.
The only moral is love.
The only way is love.
The heart of all feelings is love.
>this dude again
I really hope it's just someone having a laugh.
If you are so deep in your convictions state to the thread:
“GOD AND LOVE IS A LIE!”
If you do not give this reply, then all shall know the truth about you.
You got any of these b***hes naked?
well we know he's got none without plastic surgery and them b***hes have a LOT of it
are these all male?
Korea is the ONE conflict involving the US over the last 100 years in which it can be said the US did not win. It was a stalemate — comically in favor of the US, but still a stalemate. It’s the one war the 3rd-world brown and yellow diaspora have to cling to when desperately coping over America’s super dominance in war.
And another thing. When you post images of Asian women you’re actually outing yourself as a non-white.
Yes. Lack of response by US will lead to further escalation from China. If you give an inch, they take a mile. They've done this since the 90s and now they're doing effective blockades.
Xi wouldn't have set a deadline of 2049 if he were planning on doing this any time soon. This is all just posturing and it will be posturing for another 10 years at least. We can stop having these threads freaking out every time he postures. Putin did similar shit for decades with Ukraine before he finally pulled the trigger.
Wrong. Things have changed. Covid is exposing the party for being incompetent. They are still trying to quarantine people and there are protests/riots all over the place.
Now add the Evergrande crisis, where an entire generation of young professionals already paid for a house and that money is gone.
Now add Xi trying to change the "rules" by essentially removing the 2 term/10 year limit on being the PM and making himself the defacto Supreme Leader of China.
China is running out of time, and has a ticking time bomb in the form of a surplus of 100 million me to women.
China isnt waiting till 2049 and youd be an idiot to think so. China will go for Taiwan within the decade.
And when they do America must crush them completely. Force a regime change. Maybe even forcibly balkanize them.
The war with China will balkanize the USA silly.
Why would it? China will lose energy and agricultural inputs, and the US will gain low-income jobs.
The US is facing a major class war resulting in either a Civil war, or a military junta coup.
>The US is facing a major class war
That's got nothing to do with China though, and all it takes for the US to kill China are two destroyers in the Strait of Hormuz.
Well if you werent a victim of the US public school system, you could probably reread my original response and realize that I never said China would beat the US in a war. I merely claimed that the US would eventually balkanize, since a generation of battle-hardened soldiers returning home from China, would probably not be content with the state of US politics.
>I merely claimed that the US would eventually balkanize,
No:
>The war with China will balkanize the USA silly.
Didn't even read the rest, moron.
>No:
>Didn't even read the rest, moron.
Well, you should. You might learn something.
Oh yeah, those crewmen on those two destroyers are really going to do a number once they're home. You are a waste of time and effort, mate.
>You are a waste of time and effort, mate.
Irony, thy name is "well beat China in 2 weeks". Schools out, dont (you) me again.
Nah, it's gonna take a year. By then 500 million Chinese have died due to famine because they could neither import food nor agricultural products. But keep coping and seething, Mao.
>posting zeihan unironically
oof
Not an argument, CSD.
I don't know if you guys noticed, but Taiwan imports (much) more of its food than China does.
I'd thought it was only about 33% but that chart says 50%-75%. That may be because Taiwan exports a lot of food also, so 33% would be the net.
It's also assumed that Taiwan would be on the Ukraine side of the equation as in "entire industrialized world lined up to suck up to them"
After all, Taiwan is the place with the advanced semiconductor manufacturing, so if you want your new iPhones GPUs. . . .
Hope that Taiwan's got enough reserves, because they won't get any supplies. The Chinese are not capable of protecting their oil supplies, but they have no issues reaching Taiwan and beyond.
I have doubts the Chinese could actually blockade the Phillipine-facing side of the island
I don't. The Chinese navy isn't blue-water capable since their ships only have a reach of about 300 miles in war times, but that's enough for Taiwan, which has its closest distance to China at 70 miles. And the Chinese got a *lot* of them.
>Produce nothing but beef milk and butter
>Most food insecure country in Europe
Potato-bros...We got too wienery
Protein-based calories take up lots of plant-based ones.
>Implying that's not a bad thing
If the patriot-tards want to fight for a country that hates their own people, that's on them and they will pay for their sins.
So far I've seen the January 6th rioters being uncomfortably reasonable, as opposed to "becoming unreasonable".
>a.k.a. they won't do shit because they're pussies
>expecting conservatives to be reactionaries
lol
The Republican party is changing, and I wouldn't even call them conservatives anymore. Notices how the national security community is actively being branded as traitorous by them? How the business community is completely abandoned? Populists took over with Trump, but so far I've only ever seen them LARPing. The tree of liberty is parched.
>Unironically using the National File
>Now add Xi trying to change the "rules" by essentially removing the 2 term/10 year limit on being the PM and making himself the defacto Supreme Leader of China.
He already did that. He's on his third term now.
>Showing America your strategy
There are huge gaps between the red areas.
Western sources are starting to say ~18 months until invasion. We all know how accurate the West was about Russia's intentions were in Ukraine.
Looks like war's coming. Not going to be at all easy for China. The longer the plan and buildup prior to invasion, the more they get noticed - If they just one day decide to go and try to surprise, it means they couldn't fully prepare. In any scenario it is going to be a bloody battle and it's going to go from zero to a hundred real fricking quick before any boots even try to hit the beaches. Imagine Jutland, The Battle of Britain, Pearl Harbor, and D-Day all happening at once. China needs to simultaneously win all of them to succeed.
>Western sources are starting to say ~18 months until invasion.
Enough time for Taiwan to get a nuke and drop them on China in case a buildup actually happens.
Keep in mind the island has been fortifying for decades. Even if some defenses are older, they work.
Now is the time for the Taiwanese to practice how they will fight. Endure heavy initial bombardment, disperse concentrations of forces, have a way to quickly rally and respond. Much like the Ukrainians did.
>18 months
They realistically need a bare minimum 10 years even assuming the US doesn't intervene (it will). Two "rivals" humiliated in three years, without even firing a shot, how does the USA keep doing it bros?
Doubtful. They know they need a better nuclear deterrent which is why they're going all-out on increasing their arsenal. They'll need a few years to crank themselves up to 1000 warheads. At that point they'll have convincing MAD and their conventional forces will be freed.
I dunno. If there's one thing different between chinks and Vatniks it's that China can bide its time, try to covertly choke it's opposition and be so integral to other countries that the concept of a world without them is harder to swallow than a world at peace. Russia also has to contend with demographic collapse, crippling brain drain and economic stagnation. China will probably run into all these problems in the future but they have a good chance of figuring out some rational plan rather than chimping out and invading it's neighbour. They also (possibly) won't feed their people into a meat grinder like they could in the old days. Even if they did do it . Chips are valuable, and we can afford to sanction Russia forever, not China.
>China can bide its time
Not really. The yellow bars don't exist.
>yellow bars dont exist
u wot
what are they supposed to represent? aborted chinks?
picrel is what we thought the demographics looked like last year. The yellow bars are the difference between this and the newest data.
They're overcounts/fake numbers the Chinese used to pad their numbers trying to hide their falling population numbers
>Russia also has to contend with demographic collapse, crippling brain drain and economic stagnation. China will probably run into all these problems in the future
They're running into them already. The Chinese real estate sector is imploding, millions of citizens are already refusing to pay their mortgages for properties that have ceased construction, banks are failing, and corruption is making it all worse. As far as the demographic collapse, do you remember that leak of one billion police records a month or so back? The hacker posted a quarter of a million random records online as a free sample, and they show that China is already in population decline. Zeihan remarked that the leaked data shows that things are even worse than his worst-case estimate.
Yep, that was Zeihan's "worst case" chart. And the Shanghai police data leak shows that the birth rate has been falsified significantly more than even that. IIRC it was about a 30% shortfall below his worst-case estimate.
China already blew its chance to gradually/peacefully takeover. Their harsh words and treatment of places like Hong Kong showed what the reality of CCP rule would be.
No one wants to live under that. And even if many are reluctant to fight, when facing actual war (and no way to get off the island) then I think you would see many take up arms.
are there no pics or video of the exercises?
>China has conducted ballistic missile tests with 16 missiles.
>They landed in three closure areas to Taiwan's northeast, east, and southeast.
https://twitter.com/fravel/status/1555181655136112641
Sink them
>episode 1: the Chinese menace
>attack of the clones
>the return of the Xi