Building an ar15
What are recommended scopes 1k-1500
Preferably something I can use up close and far range so variable
Should I go with holo and magnifier?
Acog?
Doesn’t have to be 1k+ but could use some help deciding
I’ve never shot past 800 yards and figure if I need to defend myself it’s close to medium range
I gotchu senpai
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Idk if you’re fucking with me or not because I’m not at all learned on sights
he's fucking with you
if you're looking for good firearms advice, this is not the board to do it on, I asked where to get ammo online and it was 100+ replies before I got an answer
this place is mostly controlled by glow morons shilling for Ukraine and leftists trying to disrupt right-wing spaces
almost no real help here.
whats your build? What ranges are you shooting at? worry about fancy optics later. Spend extra money on ammo
bruh do you not have google? if youre trying to find ammo online thats piss easy
>bruh do you not have google? if youre trying to find ammo online thats piss easy
can't even into past tense
problem is solved
I needed a company that delivered to my pozzed ass state
i understand that you solved it i was just calling you stupid
yeah I would suggest a dedicated rifle if youre going into long range.
If you're just rocking a 14-16" build you can't go wrong with an LPVO. I don't have a lot of experience with them (or the type of eye surgery you're talking abt I have a high astigmatism but I don't really suffer from eye strain issues per se) I'd consult YT for some reviews. Brassfacts and Hoplopheil had quite a lot of videos reviewing various ones I'd look there
>i understand that you solved it i was just calling you stupid
no you didn't.
>bruh do you not have google?
present tense
>if youre trying to find ammo online thats piss easy
present tense
are you an esl? You sure sound like one
Phone posting right now so I can’t give a detailed list but pretty much a lmt upper and lower except for buffer
I need a sight because I had prk eye surgery and while I can see 20/20 my eyes can strain when I focus too hard; as well give slight halos when focused
So I’d rather just buy the sight or sights
My eyes not being strained as well having a quality sight is important to me
Though I understand your main point and will drop a considerable amount on ammo too
Also only indoor shooting with my handgun and an occasional out door range
I’ve really wanted to get into long range shooting but no gun for that yet
Might just find a dedicated rifle for it like someone else mentioned
>use up close and far range so variable
look into a magnifier, eotech g45 magnifier and an aimpoint t2 is one of the best setups available for close range and can reach out and touch someone a ways out
(PS: make sure your optic mount is the same height as your magnifier, or else it won't be aligned)
ACOGS are good for medium range but suck at close range, so I'd pick a magnifier
how can one be so cringe yet so based
ey b0ss, welcome to the fold
>ACOGS are good for medium range but suck at close range
You aren't wrong, but ACOGS are so phenomenally good at what they do, they still warrant consideration.
This is why after using every setup conceivable, for the target result OP wants an ACOG with a piggyback or offset is amazing to use. LPVOs are good for, let say, "hitting targets" or DMR type roles, (imo the new SAI 1-6 is the best on the market and priced fairly), but for actual fighting or defensive use the ability to have two static, unchanging sights for close/far is unbeatable.
TLDR; TA110 or TA02 with forward mount fully enclosed red dot (holo 509t or acro p2) for example in my opinion is the meta for what you want.
The problems with a magnifier/red dot setup are simply you have to manually activate them and they ad a ton of bulk and width to your rifle, they get annoying when running and gunning FAST. I suppose it works if you train hard with it, but I just don't see it as the meta that proponents claim it to be.
To simplify everything and have everything you want in one item, the Primary Arms 1x (the new one) and 2x are great options to consider. If you have good vision, the advantages of the Primary Arms 1x prism is the fact the reticle is much sharper and finer than a traditional red dot, allowing you to take precise shots and longer ranges, while still being 1x, and ultra-light. Not to mention having an etched reticle means the reticle wont disappear when using a light.
(in b4 poormary arms reeee)
Why does everyone recommend the acog versions with battery power?
Is the fiber that bad?
Or is it solely for the multiple settings?
>can put rds on front of acog instead of back if you ever decide to piggyback (good for night vision as it gives space to put goggles behind the red dot)
That's really it. Normally all you need is the etched reticle and one can argue that the battery one's electronics will outlast tritium. The battery one is heavier though unfortunately and I wouldn't shit on someone going with the tritium with that in mind.
Thank you
Best for 11-16" barrel ar15
>acog ta02
>canted or piggyback acro
Otherwise just acog and figure out on your own that pointing and shooting a rifle inside 5 yards is ridiculously easy without aiming down a sight.
For typical Ar15 use I would use a dot and magnifier of good quality. For 0-300m
Longer shots for things that bleed I would use rifle with better terminal ballistics like an ar10
Trijicon Accupoint
Eotech Vudu
These look pretty good, do you have a suggestion between the two?
The accupoint seems nice with the simplicity
I figured but thought he was trying to be nice with a budget sight
How is shooting with the sight on top of the acog?
Get the one with the reticle you like most. The accupoint has a ton of options.
>How is shooting with the sight on top of the acog?
Personally, I dislike piggyback repositioning my face. It's doable but shooting quickly gets a bit harder. Some people like it though. Canted problem is that it makes for a wider gun and easier to snag/break optic but it's faster and easier to use while shooting quickly in my opinion.
I had the ACOG ECOS model. Shifting to a chinweld is not difficult, I fail to see how this is a problem. What I don't like is the height of the rifle and scope with the RMR banging around and snagging at times, this is alleviated by training.
If you're not concerned with long range, a 16" or a 14.5" with a pinned muzzle device would do just fine.
As for optics, I'm a fan of the Primary Arms prism sights. Probably a 3x or 4x for what you're describing. It's like an ACOG, but doesn't cost $1200+
My personal build is basically an Aero A4 clone with a Primary Arms 5x
This is horrific advice that reeks of poorfag. OP just needs either an ACOG or something like a Viper PST or similar LVPO.
What does an ACOG offer that a PA doesn't? Tritium?
>LPVO
Which LARP-Tuber told you that?
In what circumstance is someone using the magnifications levels between 1x and the maximum magnification? Do these niche circumstances justify an extra $700?
OP's building something practical, not gucci'd-out eye candy for Instagram.
If you're spending more on scopes and lasers than ammo, you're doing it wrong.
>What does an ACOG offer that a PA doesn't?
Glass clarity, Massive field of view, both of which are highly important on magnified optics. Tritium I couldn’t give a shit about. I own both and while the PA is nice for the money the acog pisses in its eyes every day of the week
Keep it simple and get an ACOG. It's retard proof, drop proof, 80 proof, waterproof, simple to use and most of all high quality. I recommend the chevron reticle and greatly detest the crosshair reticle. It's way too much information that will bloom into a smudge anyways even with tape over the fiber.
I do enjoy retard proof and the chevron looks good
Ok thanks for the product names I’ll look into them
Ive read a bit about how getting used to acogs up close can be difficult
I don’t have instagram nor will I be sharing pictures with anyone
I want to make sure as long as I’m getting something it will last and I’ll be satisfied
Even getting names of products is difficult without sorting through 5 different blogs trying to sell me their advertised products
Google and ddg are terrible for gun searching
I misread the OP, I thought the whole build was $1k-1.5k, not just the optic.
Yeah, if you have money to spare, go with an ACOG, but I don't, so I use a Primary Arms
Allow me to set up a flowchart for you
Fukken saved
I’ve learned a lot in this thread but it’s up to me to do a majority of the sorting
Product names alone is immense
The modularity of the ar platform has led to extreme Judaism in firearms business practices. Allow me to explain.
>Buy complete lower
>Buy complete upper
>"Complete" upper does not include bolt carrier group
>Charging handle also sold separately
>Rifle does not come with iron sights
>even boomer rifles with the fsp do not come with a rear sight
>Buy irons
>Fuck it, I got all this empty rail might as well put some glass on there too
>you gotta have a sling bro.webm
>Rifle does not come with a sling, but this is reasonable
>I would not expect a sling to come with a rifle any more than a pair of pants to come with a belt
>Buy sling
>Literally $40 for 8¢ of nylon webbing
>Sling only mounts to butt stock, you need a fucking adapter to mount the forward end.
>Buy quick disconnector
>Buy quick disconnector female end that mounts to the rail
>No wml? Ngmi
>$250 for white light flashlight
>At this point 30% of the total cost of your gun has been shipping fees
>gun now weighs 24lbs
>shoots beefed up 22 caliber ammunition
what about the ELCAN SPECTER DR THE MOST CHAD OPTIC and honestly I think 4x is good even at 500yards, it wont be a big target like 10x but you're not doing precision shooting, and with that you can still get on target easily while also having optimal magnification for the other non limit ranges.
lpvos are a bit of a meme, I think they're good for DMR ar10 in 8x or 10x
acog