>Belarus is preparing to join the war, warns Polish military intelligence

>Belarus is preparing to join the war, warns Polish military intelligence

Can Ukraine withstand two pronged assault?

  1. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Right guy's legs are making me uncomfortable

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      he has that anime highschool girl stance

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      That's just the battalion twink

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      possibly talipes

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      people that stand like that irl are always the biggest pussies kek every time

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      It is the ballet fourth position for foot exercise.
      https://blog.balletaz.org/ballet-101-the-5-basic-positions/

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Probably just tired of standing around

  2. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukies warned months in advance
    >gave ammo, gear and vehicles to russia
    >still internal opposition
    I say about two more weeks

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Plus side they can just watch high end livefeeds and sensor data from NATO aircraft.

  3. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Now is the time for Poland to liberate Belarus

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If Poland gets involved, it's to take Lviv back. Poles aren't retarded enough to start WWIII for Banderites

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah, if Poland gets involved, it will be to mog Belarus while Belarus is trying to jack Ukraine.

        Poland could flip the script on Pussolini by declaring it an SMO to re-establish Polish clay and call all ethnic Poles into Warsaw's fold.

        Monke's ass would clench so tightly that his eyeballs would pop out of his fuckin' head, but as long as Poland made it clear that their beef was ONLY with his Potato , what's he gonna do?

        And this kinda shit could easily spread eastwards...I mean how carefully drawn were the borders between the Uzbeks and the Tadjiks and the Kyrgyz?

        Within a few weeks or months, Pussolini looks out any window of the Kremlin and sees his border regions and buffer states all in fire.

        Moscow was nicknamed "The Center" because that's where all the spiderwebs holding the jailhouse of nations together ran from, and now the center is weakened...

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Poland did nothing when Ukrainians bombed their farmers and chief of police

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You will never have a blonde, white gf, Sanjay.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Good thing "Banderites" are Russian propaganda then.

  4. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    fuck ya mudda

  5. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Can Lukashenko withstand losing his only safety measure keeping the people from overthrowing him?

    Belarus army would be slaughtered, at best they're a distraction to pull Ukraine resources from donbas

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >Belarus army would be slaughtered

      Wrong.

      They wouldn't even bother leaving their barracks.

      Every Belarussian conscript has had 11th months to watch the infinitely better-armed, better-funded, and better-equipped Russian Army get slaughtered and have their deaths gloated at by Ukrainians in the field and their supporters online. And unlike Russia, Belarus has no Z-Culture to drown out the overwhelming domestic opposition of Belarussian mothers and wives to having their sons and husbands sent to the slaughter. There is absolutely no reason why a single Belarussian should give his life fighting Ukraine on Russia's behalf.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Belarus has no Z-Culture
        They do.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          May I see it?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            They forced a plane to land in their territory to abduct a "terrorist"

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              That was the government

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Which is elected by the population

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                ???

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Considering Luka has a 3% approval rating I'm pretty sure his govt wasn't actually elected by the people

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Are you retarded perhaps?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Maybe Ukraine it's not the most popular country in Belarus but i really doubt anyone would want to go to war with them, especially considering there are no contested lands between the two countries

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >there are no contested lands between the two countries
                eh, depends on how deep you are willing to go

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >depends on how deep you are willing to go
                Indeed.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >had to bring in CSTO troops to put down an attempted revolt
                ??????

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Literally invited foreign troops to save his regime from popular revolt
                ishdygidd

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Hahaha good joke, american.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            No.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Belacucks will not resist. There will be no uprising. I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          The ones that would have resisted have hopped the border and are fighting in Ukraine or are in prisons still from the protests a while back.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Oh no fuck no it whould be worse the army whould do a military coup due the officers fucking hate lukoshenka ass he only has loyal is the omon (as long as they geting payed) and prob some of the speznaz and vdv (a fuck of them left after last year election shitshow happend)

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >There is absolutely no reason why a single Belarussian should give his life fighting Ukraine on Russia's behalf.
        There is absolutely no reason why a single American should have given his life fighting on Israel's behalf, but here we are.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Is 'your Belarussian seargeant will shoot you in the face if you don't get out of the barracks' a good reason?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The army isn't really pro-Luka.
      Which is among the many reasons why he might send them off to die.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The army is the reason he is protected. He also has thousands of Russian soldiers protecting him. They don't do shit to Luka on the understanding he doesn't do shit back to them. Therefore why would soldiers who aren't pro-Luka be willing to go die in a war that doesn't involve them directly?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The Army made it clear that if Luka tries to send them off, he'll be hanging from his balls in short order instead. The only reason Luka has managed to hang on for as long as he has is part Russia acting as a bouncer and part him being smart enough to understand that he is only allowed to rule as long as a rebellion/coupe would be too much of a pain in the ass.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      He killed all the glowmorons, who's gonna rise up?

  6. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    isn't the Belarusian military against joining or was that something else?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      their defense minister was, he represented the more pro west faction in Lukas govt. He got whacked by FSB late last year

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Any source of that? The current defense minister assumed office in 2020 and is as anti-western as any other goon in Luka's government

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          He means the Foreign Minister, Vladimir Makei.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        That's complete nonsense. 3% of Belarusians supported joining the war when Russia was blyatzkrieging. Literally nobody (not a single soldier or general) supports Belarus going in.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          So what happens if Putin forces Luka to send them in to the theatre?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            A. Luka tells Putin to fuck off.

            B. The Belarussian Army tells Luka to fuck off.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              i would love to see any of these scenarios play out.
              >putin becomes butthurt and invades belarus
              i would laugh until my lungs stopped working.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            What is Putin going to do if Luka says no? Invade Belarus? Try and whack Luka? He whacks Luka, then what? Assumes control because 'muh union'? Okay and what happens if the Belarusian military decides they don't want Putin charge? Or decide they don't want to be part of Russia? Or decide they don't want to invade Ukraine? Or the population doesn't?

            Leave the man to peel his potatoes.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              If Russia invades Belarus, I'm pretty sure that's a red line that results in NATO immediately starting airstrikes on Kaliningrad and in Ukraine itself. At the very least, Polish-speaking soldiers will start showing up on the streets of Minsk.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Why interrupt when your enemy is making a mistake?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Why would NATO get involved? In one wargame, when NATO decided that Russia would use nukes to destroy aircraft carrier groups in the Baltic sea the agreed response was not to nuke Russia but to nuke Belarus. The West wouldn't step in to help Belarus unless Belarus asked for help. If they did, then the West might in it meant flipping Belarus to the West... but they could also just go 'Nah lol' and let Russia fuck itself more and show the world that Russia is a rabid dog that needs to be put down or left to starve. Sadly India (despite Russia stealing tanks from them) and China are cucked and will gladly buy from them. Plus the mighty North Korea and Eritrea.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >In one wargame, when NATO decided that Russia would use nukes to destroy aircraft carrier groups in the Baltic sea the agreed response was not to nuke Russia but to nuke Belarus.

                I'm pretty sure they've thrown out all of the pre-2022 war-games and that the current NATO response to any Russian use of nuclear weapons would be massive retaliation. Russia at that point would essentially be a rogue state and the only means of guaranteeing that they won't launch a First Strike on NATO out of desperation is to beat them to the punch.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                My point wasn't about nuclear weapons, it was more a joke on how NATO doesn't give a shit about Belarus. That even in a theoretical wargame where Russia uses nukes, the response is to nuke Belarus, an unrelated (in the context of the wargame) party.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Well Belarus houses Russian military bases so the attack would most likely be on one of those rather than just glassing Minsk for the lulz. NATO still gets to kill thousands of Russian soldiers in retaliation, but not on Russian soil, so there might be room for them to back down.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Wasn't that a plan hatched by Obama/his administration?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                not really a plan, just one response in a wargame series that was ran under obama. the actual result of the wargames was the realization that the US doesn't have to use nukes to achieve nuclear-scale economic damage anymore thanks to its huge stockpile of PGMs, so the US's response to a nuke being used went from nukes-means-nukes to maybe we'll just treat you like iraq (part 1).

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >and China are cucked and will gladly buy from them
                I'm not so sure about that, they've already been way less supportive of Russia than expected and if it comes down to it they can afford to lose Russian trade a lot more than they can afford to lose NATO and whoever else goes along with sanctions etc.

                Invading Belarus might also be the last straw that causes some of the Stans to tell the Russians to fuck off, a lot are already barely under their control, and losing the ability to send trade through them might fuck things up pretty badly in terms of India.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                You kidding me? Belarus and Ukraine would immediately join forces

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Oh, I am pretty sure there will be a lot of Polish- and Ukrainian-backed troops fighting for Belarus. That's Poland's endgame. To make Belarus a part of intermarium, together with Ukraine and the Baltics.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Belarus is on a live support and without Russian money they will fold.
              https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-postpone-14-bln-belarus-debt-payments-10-years-2022-11-15/

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Belarus' government would likely be put in immediate danger of collapse if they joined Russia in invading Ukraine anyway so I don't really see how this can be used to coerce them.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                The west wouldn't think twice of waiving belarus denbts to cuck russia. What can russia do realistically against western/globohomo finance if they said "you don't have to pay your denbts to puccia, belarusball, all you have to do is peel potatoes quietly in the corner"

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                oh look less than Ukranaine gets every month
                if it costs only that to cuck the russians it's a fucking steal

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                So, all Luka has to do is sit back and wait a few years for Russia to collapse and he's suddenly free from all the debts and becomes the senior partner in their alliance?
                Sounds like doing absolutely nothing but whispering sweet nothings into Put-Put's ear is an excellent idea from their point of view.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Two more weeks will happen.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          he never claimed the opposite

  7. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Belarus is preparing to join the war
    >for the 11th consecutive month now

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder if all the people spamming that gif in mid Feb apologised.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I wonder if all the people spamming that gif in mid Feb apologised.

      Nothing wrong with the updated version

  8. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    thats a big walkie talkie

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      For you.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        haa you said the thing!

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >[DEDELEEDEE DEDELEEDEE DEDELEEDEE-DEE]
      >HELLO?!!
      >WHAT??!!
      >YEAH, I'M IN SOLEDAR!!!
      >YEAH, THE OFFENSIVE!!!
      >WHAT?? NO, BAKHMUT'S FUCKED!!!
      >NO, IT'S RUBBISH!!!!

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        > DA DA I AM SPEAKING ON A NEW WALKIE-TALKIE TALKIE1!! WHAT I CANT HEAR YOU BLYAAAT

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I understood this reference.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >I CAN'T TALK RIGHT NOW I'M IN AN AMBUSH!!!
        >NO I GOTTA BE QUIENT I'M IN AN AMBUSH!!
        >I'M IN AN AMBUSH!!!!

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        kek the 90s were the best

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Or was it early 00s? Either way based.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        CIAO!

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        hahaha

        Or was it early 00s? Either way based.

        90s

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
  9. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >polish
    >intelligence

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Never have I heard such a pollen ball joke since pollen ball.

  10. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm curious how many "Ukrainian separatists" are left.
    They used them as meat shields earlier in the war and we assume most are now dead, and they conscripted basically every male Ukrainian that was of fighting age in the Donbas, so why are there no longer a ton of videos from them?
    Are they all dead? Did Russia systematically genocide eastern Ukraine of all it's men by forcing them into the military even if most of them were never proper separatists?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >so why are there no longer a ton of videos from them
      How do you know which videos are from whom?

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Generally the accents, but for the most part they have unit patches in the corner of the videos.
        Or "had" I should say, since most are dead or being used as "police" kek.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Do you follow their Telegram accounts?

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I did.
            Most are dead unless they were commanders.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              I mean the accounts of the battalions or whoever. Obviously the meatshields are dying rapidly, but the battalions are putting out fresh content last I checked.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                That's what I mean by commanders.
                Idk, they just aren't posting anywhere near as much.
                I get the feeling that the war is mostly Russian now.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah? Which ones?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Which ones homie?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              You going to show us, or are you full of shit like most of the hoholshills?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Poor, brown hands typed this post.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Guess we got our answer then.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Patrushev still shows up on interviews occasionally. Mostly to ramble about the goold old Soviet days, how we need more totalitarianism, how they really are separatists and not KGB plants and btw Russia should rule all.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        If they look like particularly poorly equipped soldiers from the red army in '44, they're militia

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They are lurking in the Ukraine-controlled cities and giving ziggers coordinates for missile strikes.

  11. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    It depends on the quality of the troops involved

  12. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    if Belarus was to join it would have done so at the very start.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      At this point, I think it's more likely that Belarus will switch sides and join Ukraine than invade it.

      Let's say the Monke gets so assmad that Luka won't join him in his NATO-assisted suicide that he orders Luka be deposed and a more compliant leader installed. Assuming they could even kill Luka (which I highly doubt, he's very cunning the way that Tito was), all this would result in is the Belarussian Army mutinying and refusing recognize the new Russian puppet leader as legitimate and being able to count on their own population to support them. If the Russians try to invade Belarus to force it to join the war, NATO decides that they can't afford to sit on the sidelines any longer or else Russian chimpery is going to spread everywhere and airstrikes on Moscow start immediately afterward.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I don't see NATO intervening directly in a Belarus-Russia fallout unless it truly spills over into Poland. There could be a scramble to offer aid and intel to Minsk, but it would be pretty haphazard since unlike Ukraine there hasn't been an established process for it and one would be hard to set up in a warzone.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >I don't see NATO intervening directly in a Belarus-Russia fallout unless it truly spills over into Poland.

          There is absolutely ZERO possibility that it's not going to spill over into Poland and it would be a waste of time (and morally inexcusable) trying to contain it, so I'm pretty sure attacking Belarus would itself be a red line. It would be a demonstration that Putin is completely out of control, that no one in his own government is able or willing to rein him in, and that the only way to stop him is to completely destroy Russia's conventional military capability for good (and launch a First Strike if the Russians try to resort to using nukes to forestall defeat).

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Or it chould be a legit exit strategy for Luka fake his death blame russians get all the money and assets to some offshore accounts change your face a bit and fuck off to south America for a well earned rest and he whould avoid the hauge and the whole world prob whould think he died
        Btw if any of the KGB is reading this do this only way out of this shitshow alive and not being you know dragged and lynched by your own pepole

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        At this point the average Belarussian security service employee is looking at retribution and persecution if not execution when the revolution comes. Given their news intake, where a Russian stalemate or win looks at least possible, what do they have to lose by going that route?

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >when the revolution comes
          > "when"
          This is something that I've come to understand as inevitable necessity. The revolution in Belarus must happen, it our responsibility to help it.

          Ukraine must win. But, there will be no pause as that win comes to pass. The fighting and revolution must continue into Belarus and free Belarus. This is a marathon that the entire West must realize. No matter what happens to russia as part of the Ukrainian conflict, russia must continue to be defeated and crushed out of existence until Belarus is also free.

          Keep that in mind, folks, as this war continues. It's not over with only Ukraine becoming free. It will be a pyrrhic victory if Belarus is not also free.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            "Free" to do what? Become yet another immigrant infested hellhole, just like Pooland, Sweden, and the Baltics? "Free" to be beaten down by a colonial history they never had? "Free" to be a slave to the petrodollar and America's endless war machine?
            No thanks.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              see much immigrants in poland or baltics retarded pajeet? did you get deported cause youre useless shit and youre salty now?

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous
            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >somebody's anus clenched up and squirted shit down his pants leg
              We can smell your fear, even over the stench of having shat yourself. Thanks for confirming just how necessary a free Belarus is that can join the EU and NATO.

              Once Colonel Potato is peeled & boiled. russia is over, motherfucker.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >the Baltics
              what

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                his Wolt Food application did not get redeemed or something I bet

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Become yet another immigrant infested hellhole like the Baltics
              They're fighting Russia to prevent that, retard-kun. Smelly dumb vatnik scum are indistinguishable from morons.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >They're fighting Russia to prevent that, retard-kun. Smelly dumb vatnik scum are indistinguishable from morons.
                is that detroit?

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >is that detroit?

                >Become yet another immigrant infested hellhole like the Baltics
                They're fighting Russia to prevent that, retard-kun. Smelly dumb vatnik scum are indistinguishable from morons.

                Notice the sign in the background. It's "Rimi," a supermarket chain in Eastern and Northern Europe. The Baltics, Poland not sure where else. Could also be Finland, Sweden, Germany ... possibly Belarus/Russia/Ukraine & elsewhere for alI know. I lived in Latvia & Lithuania for a few years and it was the number one store I would shop at for cost-effective general groceries & dry goods. They were everywhere, so sometimes there just wasn't another store nearby.

                Whichever country that is, it's definitely a vatmoron falling in his own piss. The entire region is rotten with them and that sort of display is about as likely as not on any given day, depending which section of a city you happen to be walking through.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >It's "Rimi,"
                >cost-effective
                Since fucking when it is cost effective there? One of the more expensive chains.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              >Become yet another immigrant infested hellhole, just like Pooland,
              What? I've yet to see any immigrant in Poland.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Don't speak in place of Belarusians, shitskin.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            Personally I think the only way to truly win this whole thing is for Russia to end up under complete NATO control and governance, the way Germany and Japan were after WWII. I'm not confident that'll ever happen though, more likely Putin will be out one way or another after this whole Ukraine thing is over and we'll get another prolonged cold war with a weakened and less aggressive than now but still dangerous Russia.

  13. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Russia really wants Belarus to throw their troops in because they're still desperate for manpower. Ironically I think Belarus as a fleet in being is successfully keeping Ukrainian forces pinned at the northern border anyway. Russia would be gambling the manpower/divided attention would divert more resources from other fronts. Which it might, but it wouldn't be to Belarus' benefit.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Also it would give the distraction a set time limit as the Belarusian military would get assraped. By posturing on the border, they can posture forever

  14. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The attack from Belarus will be a distraction/attempt to tie up the Ukrainian forces.

  15. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The final potato has been peeled and now the West will see!

  16. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Honest question but if Belarus (a third party) directly gets involved in a Russo-Ukrainian conflict then what's exactly preventing say Poland from getting involved as well? Or NATO to strike targets in Belarus?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The same reason why they're not getting directly involved now. They don't want to feel the wrath of the bear.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        AHAHAHAHAHA

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing. No NATO nation has to have NATO approval to do anything. Any nation can make a unilateral decision to do something. But in most cases people don't want war and don't want their population killed and want the moral high ground. So it is unlikely anybody would get involved.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Nothing, but if you take aggressive action, you'll have a much harder time justifying Article 5 if someone hits you back, and Ukraine is willing to do the bleeding if the West pays the money, which is a pure political win unlike if soldiers start coming home in body bags in the West.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >you'll have a much harder time justifying Article 5 if someone hits you back
        You flat out cannot use Article 5 if you're the aggressor. Also Article 5 isn't a 'entire force of NATO attack + moves to the enemy capital' anyway. PrepHole needs to actually read what Article 5 says.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Russia couldn't really afford to retaliate against Poland because there are currently tens of thousands of American, German, British, French and miscellaneous other NATO member state troops currently in-country. Say you're Russia and you launch a series of airstrikes on military targets all over Poland, chances are you're going to kill a few hundred Americans and the American public will be so enraged that they will demand war as a matter of national honor, Article 5 or no Article 5.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          And you don't understand that there are levels between helpless bystander and sending the entire military over the border to rape and pillage, which is where politics come into it. We already see this with how NATO is supplying free arms to Ukraine, which is certainly a provocative action even if Russia and the USSR have certainly done worse. Say Poland limits it's involvement to agreeing to provide a no fly zone or conducting a bombing campaign. Is that enough of an aggressive action to completely nullify Article 5 if Russia sends some missiles at their airbase? How about if Russia tries their terrorbombing tactics of striking civilian infrastructure in Poland? What sort of NATO response is justified if they do decide that it's not an overly aggressive action on Poland's part? Article 5's wording is left intentionally vague to allow wiggle room on things and let the diplomats solve issues like this.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You're forgetting that there are 100,000 US soldiers stationed in Poland. Any Russian attack on military targets there is going to wind up killing US soldiers and at that point, Article 5 will be completely irrelevant because the American people will be the ones out for blood.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous
          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            I am perfectly aware of the situation. As I stated, if Poland gets involved via a unilateral decision then they cannot invoke Article 5 if they get attacked. End of. Because NATO exists to maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. If Poland is the one to 'breach' that security by doing an aggressive action, they can't then call on NATO to help. Even if something did attack Poland, there is no obligation for NATO to launch a full scale response. Lets say that missile that hit Poland was actually Russian - there is no clause in Article 5 to get the entire NATO force to go attack Russia. Military is the 'up to' part of the treaty. They could do more sanctions, donate AA systems (which has precedent when Turkey got hit by Syrian missiles but shhh facts are bad, stop knowing things!) or whatever to 'maintain the security of the North Atlantic area'.

            Article 5 isn't vague at all. It states if a member is attacked it is up to the member states of NATO to do what is needed to maintain the stability and security of the area which includes - as I already said - 'up to' military action. If Poland tries to enforce a no-fly zone, they are doing a unilateral offensive action and if Russia shoots down one of their aircraft they cannot call Article 5 on it.

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Amazing how you're able to draw the line in the sand so clearly on one hand, while actually demonstrating an understanding of the sliding scale of responses on the other. Is shipping material to Ukraine an aggressive action? How about letting Ukraine base planes on Polish air bases? What about using Polish troops to escort supplies into Ukraine? At what point does it become unilateral aggressive action while being perfectly fine beforehand? Is Russia allowed to strike at Ukrainian forces being trained in a NATO country if they magically were able to avoid hitting any NATO soldiers? If Poland uses it's SAM batteries to enforce a no fly zone, is Russia allowed to hit those but nothing else? There's not a clear piece of police tape that you can tiptoe up to without concern nor is there a lack of context for actions that might be deemed aggressive.

              >Article 5 isn't vague at all
              >do what is needed to maintain the stability and security of the area
              I'm impressed you're able to read without actually being able to understand the words you're typing, especially when you list examples of how mutable it is just a few sentences earlier. Article 5 is very concrete in that 'something' will be done, but is very vague as to what exactly that something can and will be, which allows flexibility to be proportional and responsive to the provocation, which once again is where the diplomats come in.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >Is shipping material to Ukraine an aggressive action?
                no
                >How about letting Ukraine base planes on Polish air bases?
                they don't, but it is less than Moscow basing fighters north of the Yalu during the Korean War
                >What about using Polish troops to escort supplies into Ukraine?
                to Ukraine is fine, convoying inside Ukraine is riskier but why is Moscow concerned about 'aggression'?
                >At what point does it become unilateral aggressive action while being perfectly fine beforehand?
                FAFO
                >Is Russia allowed to strike at Ukrainian forces being trained in a NATO country if they magically were able to avoid hitting any NATO soldiers?
                no
                >If Poland uses it's SAM batteries to enforce a no fly zone, is Russia allowed to hit those but nothing else?
                yes but that won't happen

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Poland can get involved on its own, but NATO will not help them.

  17. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If USA savagely attacks Belarus after things kick off and Russia cannot do anything, that would be a big wake up call

  18. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    as per Geneva convention, it could be argued that they joined the war already the moment they let Russians invade from their side of the border.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      100% but no one wants this mess to spill out so they're getting away with it for now.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Russia regularly launches missiles into Ukraine from Belarus. There is no possible way to argue that Belarus is not part of the war.

  19. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    As soon as they're done peeling these potatoes.

  20. 1 week ago
    Anonymous
  21. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Let's say Luka or a powerful enough cabal in the government actually refuses to mobilise and declare war. Could Russia successfully invade Belarus to install a puppet government? I mean, they're basically mini-Russia, but without any combat experience or war production. How much a challenge could they actually pose is Putin decided to place the Ukrainian invasion in a holding pattern to free up the manpower necessary?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >and declare war
      Please list the countries that have already "declared war." Take your time, be thorough.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        Fucking pedant.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      If russia puts Ukraine on a holding pattern to pull out troops for an invasion of Belarus, the ukies will be in Mariupol before they can pull together a full division. It would also turn a country they're currently using for airbases, supplies and training grounds hostile. And even if russia somehow manages to pull it off without losing everything, then what? They will have shot up most usable belarusian equipment in the process and will then have to deal with an active insurgency

  22. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    yes we can

  23. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The poles must be itching to get stuck in and fuck up the russians
    If they do they'd better withdraw from nato beforehand so retards don't start nuking each other

  24. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The obvious point to be made is that Belarus and Luka have NOTHING to gain from joining Russia and putting their genitals into the Ukie meat grinder.

    Conversely, they have a lot to lose by doing so.

    Gotta hand it Luka, he’s holding shitty cards, but he’s played them well.
    Now what does He and Belarus have to gain if Russia ends up defeating Ukraine?

    Russia is going to be even more of a pariah and is going to be a badly weakened one.
    Things don’t look too good if Russia is defeated, but I think everyone understands that Luka hasn’t had a lot of room to tell the Kremlin to FOAD and not allowing BelaRus turf to be used by the Russian Army.

    So far, Luka is playing at Franco and Sweden during WW2 levels. He hasn’t pissed off either side too badly, and just might come out of this thing intact.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      What options dies Luka have left at this point? A defeated Russia leaves him vulnerable to either a military coup or another popular uprising. A "victorious" russia ties him to a rotting corpse of a nation. The best bet for him might be to book a one way ticket to Argentina or something.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        At this point, his only option is to do what he’s been doing, which is slow-belling everything that Pussolini has asked of him while loudly proclaiming his love and support for MonkeyBoi.

        Thing is though, when the smoke clears and a bunch of Belarus guys aren’t fertilizing sunflowers in Ukraine or in shallow graves in the Chernobyl Dead Zone, and Belarus cities still have electricity and running water, that’s going to count for a lot, I think.

        Franco rode his play in WW2 into the 1970s. So did Sweden.

        When everything around you is in ruins but your shit still works, that is a credit to your statesmanship.

        I don’t envy Luka at all, but like I said, he’s played his hand well.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >he’s holding shitty cards
      completely his own fault
      >but he’s played them well
      meh. if his goal is to stay in power, then yes
      >He hasn’t pissed off either side too badly
      he's literally second on the hit list. he will fall as soon as (if, when, etc.) russia does, his only hope not to get a knife-in-anus is russia
      brilliant strategist Lukashenka took his country to the brink of assimilation into russia

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >brilliant strategist Lukashenka took his country to the brink of assimilation into russia
        To be fair, his goal was to become president of Russia anyway. Belarus was just a stepping stone.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      I have a feeling that Luka may get Gaddafi'd by populusafter the smoke clears, there will be a lot of veterans coming back from Ukraine back into Belarus and those veterans may tip the scales for forceful removal of his regime

  25. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I'm surprised they havent attacked Baltics yet.The public opinion of them is very dim, I very doubt western europe and usa would risk a nuclear war over countries they barely know and respect.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      (You) should write a strongly-worded letter to your monke and tell him
      To.
      Fucking.
      Do.
      It.
      Vatmoron.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Thats why there are NATO troops there so the moment Russia invade, the first casualties are French, British, Spanish and so on soldiers, forcing the reality of war.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      muh noooooks

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      The first actual resistance they would meet is NATO VJTF, and seconds later their entire invasion force disintegrates while we make Desert Storm look like a training exercise. Also, russian tanks don't drive. They don't have a single warhead that wouldn't fizzle

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      because then they attack nato soldiers AND those nations are tiny and dont matter.

      Ukraine matters.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Sure, monkes supreme army logistics vs stationed NATO troops all around

  26. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    I think the Ukrainian actually hope the russians are dumb enough to launch an attack

  27. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    The potatoes are almost peeled.

  28. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    i dont think belarus will join unless russia has a very strong advantage. right now they tie up ukrainian forces and their resources (tanks/food/hospitals) are eaten up by the russians.

    not to mention the army might just refuse to fight.

  29. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Surely it's time for the West to groqw a pair and send troops to guard the Belarus boarder west of the Dnipro.

  30. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    on which side are they going to fight?

  31. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Belarus of all things providing some of the dumbest takes in k history. I wouldnt have known

  32. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Binkov did an analysis on Belarussian involvement.
    Tldr: Belarus‘ military is about 2 cocks and an onion strong, Potatoman can‘t use any of his few troops because that would leave him vuneranle for a violent revolution at home.
    Belarus is mostly used as a staging and training ground for russians and is better off that way.

  33. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How retarded would you have to be to join an endless unwinnable quagmire

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >join on the side of Ukraine
      >all of Ukraine's logistics problems regarding dwindling Soviet stockpiles solved
      >West does a u-turn and starts praising Belarus as a defender of democracy
      >Luka redemption arc begins

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        >Luka, being the 6'2" Chad that he is, chokes manlet Putin to death on live tv

  34. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Can Ukraine withstand two pronged assault?
    Belarus does not even have to attack - its enough if they pose real threat - then Ukr will have to send equivalent force 1000 km from real frontline - those units will be for all purposes tied and unable to be used for anything else
    - if Ukies dare to ignore them then they will attack for real and disrupt supply lines from the west
    - and thats not an option as Ukr is not self sustainable now.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      They can get aid from their southern borders, and an equivalent force would mean at most 1/3rd of the soldiers Belarus is sending due to the technological superiority of Ukraine's army.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        well Russia has tens of thousands Wagnerites that its willing to sacrifice,
        plus 300k recently mobilized mobiks (they sent around 100k to Donbas already) with rumoured second wave consisting of 500k) AND 200k conscripts from normal yearly draft that can be used in similar fashion

        that's around 400k of new soldiers that will be available this spring (not counting this rumoured 500k part as it wont be ready before summer)

        Russia lost many assets last year but they seem to offset that with numbers - more than doubling last years force - if they get their logistics running next spring will be hard and summer even harder for Ukrainians as their losses are also substantial and their industry struggling under constant drone and missile attacks(unlike Russian one that is only mildly impacted by sanctions)
        - west will have to send substantially more and higher quality than now to offset that or Ukraine will have to accept some territorial losses and sue for peace...

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          do civilians not hear this breakdown? if americans were told to be optimistic that only a few hundred thousand soldiers were dead and it will only take another half million potential deaths to win, they'd lose their minds

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            You need to understand rushit slave mentality. It's a subject of many books. You either fuck or fucked

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              i'm aware, it's just that we aren't in the 20th century anymore, you'd think russian civilians would be accustomed to a higher standard of living by now. i guess we'll have to wait for the next battleship potemkin to mutiny

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                >you'd think russian civilians would be accustomed to a higher standard of living by now
                They aren't. That's your mistake here.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                they never had a higher standard of living. things have arguably gotten worse since the USSR.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Russians oomers maybe, but Soviet nostalgic boomers will gladly sacrifice those for the glory of Puccia

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                *zoomers

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          >Putin will win after a million casualties
          >country will be economically isolated like North Korea and you will never receive a useful transistor again
          The future is grim for vatmorons but every russian casualty is a blessing from God, the more dead russians the closer we get to heaven on Earth.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          You're forgetting that Ukraine has already fortified the border with Belarus specifically because of the risk of another invasion from that direction, can reactivate any TDF that have been stood down, has significantly larger stocks of modern gear and trained forces than the first time Russia invaded from Belarus, and is getting mainlined NATO intelligence 24/7. A second invasion from Belarus would be marching against an already entrenched and fortified enemy equipped with superior materiel. On top of that Ukraine enjoys a superiority in long-range precision munitions. You're talking about a primarily infantry assault through lousy terrain into areas with minefields and obstacles to assault a prepared enemy backed by artillery who has been getting a bird's eye view of your positions and movement since before you even started.

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            >russians really can't be THAT retarded
            everybody keeps saying that.

            > and then ...

            • 1 week ago
              Anonymous

              Yeah, but I'd imagine the Belarusians would be less retarded.

              • 1 week ago
                Anonymous

                Don't worry.
                They'll dig more fortifications in the Red Forest.

  35. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Get ready Polish dipshits, your up next to "DEFEND DEMOCRACY" for TheBigGuy™
    >thank you for your service

  36. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    this shit is a psyop, belarus is not joining at all

  37. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    More boy who cries wolf bullshit?

  38. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    How many times have they been preparing to join the war now?

  39. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Can Ukraine withstand two pronged assault?
    I don't know but I found out last night your mom can

  40. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Trenches in the red forest. God damn. Every time I remember it's just.
    Trenches.
    The the red forest.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Imagine how fucking surreal it must have been to be a STALKER fan and then find yourself in actual combat in the Zone. There must have been a few guys that happened to, it's a Ukrainian game after all and I think we've seen some Uke soldiers with STALKER morale patches and stuff.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        The creator of Stalker died on the front line

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          He was just one of the devs, not the original creator or any thing.

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        I just love how the camera of the drone just zooms out towards the nuclear reactor as to say " They where digging trenches IN THE FUCKING RED FOREST"

  41. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Belarus is a distraction. Making them join would make them into liability.

  42. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Ukraine would love to bomb the shit out of Belarus' air bases. This invasion would finally give them the perfect excuse.

  43. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    Belarussian paramilitary forces are larger than the actual military, if this doesn't tell you enough of its capabilities, you're rarted.

    it's seen no reform, it's experience is limited to an Su-25 squadron doing bombing missions in West Africa and then getting fucked by the French, and the population is broadly sympathetic to Ukraine. material wise it's just old Soviet vehicles and some decent infantry equipment.

  44. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Can Ukraine withstand two pronged assault?

    they withstood a 4 pronged assault at the start of the war, the thing is, if belarus suffers the same kind of crippling losses as russia, it might be the end of the line for luka

  45. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    can anyone tell me why ukie-nato doesnt attack belarus when kiev got attacked via belarus?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Belarus letting Russians invade Ukraine through their territory sucks.

      Belarus letting Russians invade Ukraine through their territory as well as sending in their own troops as well sucks more.

      Also there's a lot of fears of escalation, because Ukraine is one country, and Russia has nukes. Keeping the fighting limited to Ukraine (bar the occasional commando raid into Russia) seems thus far to keep the war limited to 'nobody is using nukes' which is what everyone wants.

      • 1 week ago
        Anonymous

        But I want to use nukes. I want Russia turned into radioactive glass and the loss of a few civilized cities is absolutely acceptable to me. Even if I'm in one of those cities I will die happily knowing that the extermination of the Russian people has begun and nothing will stop it.

        • 1 week ago
          Anonymous

          Dude just give it a few years, and they'll collapse.

          WW1 - 2 1917 revolutions collapse the Russian Empire
          1991 - Collapse of the USSR

          • 1 week ago
            Anonymous

            the seeds of imperial russia's collapse were planted all the way back in 1905, though, and only because all aspects of society from the peasants to the navy were sick of the wartime status quo, it all kind of depends on whether or not they'll hit rock bottom

  46. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    If Belarus joins in then Poland, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia and Finland are all within reason to join the war citing Belarus' entry and a very real threat to their borders if Ukraine loses, the war might get a lot bigger but not in the way Russia wants

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      Too bad that most of us are unwilling to do so on the political level

  47. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    >Can Ukraine withstand two pronged assault?
    They did it at the beginning and now they've had an almost full year of being fed Western top tier weaponry, volunteers and training. They can and will do it again

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      >had an almost full year of being fed Western top tier weaponry,
      The hilarious part is this ISN'T the top tier. This is just old shit from the nineties that was sitting a warehouse gathering dust.
      The actual "top tier" is shit so advanced even our own allies don't even know about.
      Sorry, anon, but you don't have a high enough security clearance to see any of that stuff.

      But, here, apropos of nothing, is a vid
      [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWu9g_IRUbw[/youtube]

  48. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    if russia can have allied countries join the fight why can't ukraine?

    • 1 week ago
      Anonymous

      because russia is weak and nato does whatever it likes

  49. 1 week ago
    Anonymous

    it already has ya dumb cunt

    Belarus doesn't even have a military kek

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