Based purely on statistics, China's military is better than America's.

Based purely on statistics, China's military is better than America's. What factors are there that could tip the balance back in America's favor?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Implessive.

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What factors are there that could tip the balance back in America's favor
    Reality

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >muh reality
      hato propaganda

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did you remember to check under your bed for nafo posters last night?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      So does anybody unironically believe MemeSonic missiles are worth it? Or is it just an elaborate troll?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >So does anybody unironically believe MemeSonic missiles are worth it? Or is it just an elaborate troll?
        They are real and very dangerous. Remember back in early 2022 when Russia destroyed the Ukrainian army with them and conquered Kyiv.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Indeed. That empty farm the Russians blew up with their Kinzahl will be the Hiroshima of the 21st century.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The ballistic missiles with hypersonic glide warheads are somewhat neat, but not really groundbreaking.

        The HAWC/HACM stuff is more interesting, a hypersonic cruise missile, while slower, doesn't have to take a ballistic trajectory. Though it'll be in development for at least another ~5-10 years compared to the hypersonic glide weapon that's going into service next year.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Can't the glide weapon steer?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The short answer is we don't really know, but presumably yes, they can.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Theoretically, but the high speed and altitude as well as the lack of internal propulsion would likely impose some limitations on maneuverability.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The ones developed by the US will work. The chink ones will not.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          its already been developed, if its on the news, we've had them for years. we're just implementing them in more mainstream forms cuz we have something else that gives us the edge now.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        They are only a pipe dream for countries that cannot defeat a CBG. The USA has absolutely no strategic or tactical use for them, but because the adversary ~~*claims*~~ they have the capability, the US Defense Industry has to get billions to prove America has the largest warpeen.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >The USA has absolutely no strategic or tactical use for them
          >The USA, the country with the most advanced airforce in the world
          >The country with two of the three largest airforces in the world
          >The country whose airforce is so deeply enmeshed with its surface operations a serious criticism of its troops is that they are not used to operating without air superiority
          >Has no use for a mobile airbase
          Were you born this retarded or have you had to practice?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>Has no use for a mobile airbase
            >mobile airbase
            Are you high or retarded?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >aircraft
              >aircraft storage facilities
              >crews
              >fuel
              >spare parts and maintenance equipment
              >munitions and armorers
              >runway(s)
              >air traffic control
              Looks like a duck, walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and this duck can swim too.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                WTF does that have anything to do with hypersonic missiles?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Beiing fed targets by what spotting platform? Or just unguided and squinting through its plasma sheathe, being fired randomly across the Pacific until it beats astronomical odds and accidentally deletes a cargo ship?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            a mobile airbase is just a aircraft carrier anon

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >meme it harder
        >China invests billions more into a dead end
        >MIC gets more money
        Candy from a baby.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Might be, might not.
        Better to have it than to not have it.
        Also, if the USA got one and find a way to counter it easily, that would waste 10 to 15 years of efforts from the bugmen and the snow morons.
        Whatever hope these guys have to maybe even the scale with a lucky preemptive strike would evaporate.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Wtf are the point of these? What would make them change the course of a war. ICBM are already hypersonic.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nukes are realistically not an option, the moment you use them you open yourself up to retaliatory nuclear exchange they escalates to a full nuclear war.

        Hypersonic glide missiles allow for a conventional warhead to bypass air defense radars and missile defense systems to hit critical infrastructure or other high value targets.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Logistics

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Experience in battle, corruption no where near the levels of china, a functioning military that doesn't chest thump for attention.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    We deliberately spread their propaganda to our population and wait a few years.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >tfw the boomers were only trained to fear nukes so they wouldn't worry about the MUCH scarier shit that darpa has been brewing

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        True story.
        You know those LRAD things you see mounted on trucks and directed at unruly mobs during protests to disperse them with noise?
        That tech tree originated in the military (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Active_Denial_System) with a version that that make the surface of your skin instantaneously scream in pain for a split second.
        That's on LOW power. On high it will peel the top dermal layer clean off your flesh. Just turn it into pork rinds. During testing there were sometimes apparently indications of second degree burns if subjects stayed in the path of the beam for more than a few seconds.

        There's also apparently a variant reliant on a different wavelength that is said to just immediately rupture your grey matter and internal organs, scrambling you from the inside out.
        Or maybe it's supposed to burst cells or expand water molecules or something? I don't know.
        People poppers. They've got 'em.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Or maybe it's supposed to burst cells or expand water molecules or something? I don't know.
          It literally melts eyeballs, anon. That's why it was never adopted for crowd control use, despite being ways more effective than the ADS.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          its literal microwaves anon, all it does is cook you, and cook you thoroughly, if we went to war, this would be a weapon we would use.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          I can't find the article but a year or so back they used the ADS microwave heat gun on protesters at (Insert whatever black person died) race protest and people's faces and arms were swelling up from severe irritation. It looked like a bunch of people having allergic reactions in a short period of time after the protest.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What's crazy is that because our military R+D is heavily privatized its fucking incentivized in our economy to make us look ill equipped to our own people.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/wfEHTn1.png

        We deliberately spread their propaganda to our population and wait a few years.

        >"When you are weak, appear strong. When you are strong, appear weak."

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Bluffing works until someone calls the bluff. Nations don’t call bluffs too often, especially if nuclear war is on the line. Hence that lines does indeed work as a nation, but pray to God you don’t drink your own koolaid and pull a Ukraine.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >"When you are weak, appear strong. When you are strong, start ass raping all the weak."

          Fixed that for you.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >America builds weapon X
        >brainstorms a weapon Y to kill it
        >develops said weapon and then sells it to us
        >offers upgrade to weapon X to defend against weapon Y
        >develops upgrade to weapon Y to defeat weapon X mark II
        >enemy nations are still trying to figure out how two-decade old weapon V works
        >nice quads

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well it works the same way with lots of industries.

        >cosmetics industry says you're ugly and need them to look good
        >pharmaceutical industry says you're ill and need to take their pills
        >auto industry says your car is shit and you need a new ride

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      There have been times in history where a foreign power successfully fooled the US into thinking they were behind in certain tech.

      This kinda backfires because the US has the capacity to actually build the tech.

      >1936, Japan is rumored to be fielding fast battleships after they rage quit the naval arms treaty. America freaks the fuck out, designs and builds four fast battleship designs to counter by 1942.

      >1955, the USSR successfully convinces the US that they have more bombers than they actually have. America freaks the fuck out and builds 2500 nuclear bombers by to counter less than 150 Soviet bombers.

      >1958, the USSR propaganda successfully convinces the US government that a missile gap exists. The US begins a massive buildup of nuclear missiles and by 1961 had thousands of nuclear warheads capable of delivered to targets in the USSR compared to the few dozen Soviet types that could reliably hit the US.

      >1967, the USSR deploys the MiG-25. America freaks the fuck out and redesigns the F15 into an air superiority fighter, deploying in 1976 and to this day, has not been shot down in air to air combat.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yeah I was going to bring up the missile gap very famous dr Strangelove even lampoons it

        >MR. President we can not allow a mine shaft gap

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        US did pull that Star War program that results in further draining of USSR resource though. Even when US didn't really have the tech to make Star War work either.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >F-16 has zero combat losses
        This fact always makes the video of the f-16 evading 6 Iraqi missiles via maneuvering more impressive and intense
        Imagine just thinking about being the first f-16 shot down in that situation

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Not today I WILL NOT BE THE ONE
          >Bill are you ok it seems like you're pushing that jet past its limits
          >I'M NOT GONNA BE THE ONE

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >F15
        >not a F-14 Tomcat
        GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE COCSUCKA. THIS AIN'T AMATURE HOUR.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      This is why I miss the Germans. They were several generations ahead of the Americans. Imagine the potential.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ahead in what? Missiles? Nerve gas? AFAIK that's about it.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Everything, except heavy bombers, because the Germans didn't have time to complete their 6th generation bomber. Don't be a gay. You lost the war fair and square.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >tank gun stabilizer
            >proximity fuze shells
            just off the top of my head
            not saying Germans didn’t have smart ideas that would later be continued post war, like rockets, rifles, jets and gpmgs. However, many of these technologies weren’t used in large numbers. See: still using large amounts of bolt action rifles in 1945

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >You lost the war fair and square.
            you gays got raped into submission by mongol hordes. cope and seethe.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Please demonstrate a big cat tank driving more than 20km without a new transmission.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Nazis were using horse drawn carriage for most of their logistics and transport need throughout the war. Just because they had a couple “wunderwaffen” (that had no effect on the war) doesn’t make them a technologically superior power.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >This is why I miss the Germans.
        They're still around. All you need is a competent dictator.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They were several generations ahead of the Americans
        lmao no. They were slightly ahead of the Americans in some areas but not in the areas where it mattered most for them.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The Germans would have had the exact same problem the Russians and Chinese have if Hitler hadn't aggroed the entire world, and the Nazi Party remained in power. It's a sickness endemic to authoritarian states.
        >b-but what about [insert historical monarchic state here]
        Had an entire crowd of nobles who could theoretically replace the king, family members to shut him down, and institutions like parliament to keep him in line. Absolute monarchs were exceedingly rare and tended to get deposed, or their dynasty ended a generation or so afterwards as power passed into the hands of a less competent successor who still tried to keep said absolute power.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          More importantly, the reason why historical monarchies didn't have the same problems modern authoritarian states did is because there was literally no democratic alternatives for them to compete with.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Indeed. Consider Charles I. The normal constraint on English monarchs was that there was no established tax, Parliament would vote to award the crown money by passing a specific tax levy. Charles tried to rule without them when they didn't want to fund his wars (despite Parliament wanting those wars until it was time to fork over the cash) then tried to strongarm them, and it ended up very messy for him. The moment Parliament achieved any power, the ability to grant tax, the crown's power was severely curtailed.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ahead in what?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >ahead
        In literally nothing.
        >jets
        Useless, so much so that the Brits banned their jets from flying over Europe.
        >tanks
        US tanks, per ton were much better in quality and effectiveness.
        >rifles
        They couldn't even make a self loading rifle that didn't destroy itself or was a copy.
        >rockets
        The same amount of man-hours and resources that were put into the V1 and V2 programs as the entire US B24 and B29 programs.
        The Germans in WW2 either fought from surprise attacks, or were on the defensive the entire war, any straight on fights the Brits and US often inflicted equal or slightly greater losses, not including POW's.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        The British have always been more impressive than the Germans.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Bruh we nuked japan, the US was generally superior technically to the germans in WW2 they had a few advantages in useless rocketry, and jet engines they couldn't afford.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They were several generations ahead of the Americans
        Anon please, being a Wehraboo does not make you intelligent. It makes you functionally retarded.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >SAY HELLO TO FORD, AND GENERAL FUCKING MOTORS! WHAT WERE YOU THINKING, YOU HAVE HORSES!?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Wolfenstein is just a game

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Call an ambulance
      >But not for me

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chinks vs Hispanics = The LiveLeak War

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Did you know there are three kinds of streamers?
      >Those who seek views.
      >Those who live for clout.
      >And those that can read the tide of trends.

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Based purely on statistics
    > posts no statistics, no sauce
    What did he mean by that?

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am Wang from Ohio Special Administrative Region and I agree with this statement
    China is just too powerful for gweilo America

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Chinese Airforce status: Destroyed in 3 days,
    >Chinese Air Defense status: SEAD'd in a week.
    >Chinese Navy status: Harpooned
    >Industry and logistics status: Paveway
    >Chinese Food supply status: No longer sold to them.
    >American Dollartree status: Empty.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >in a week.
      Huh
      Why would it take so long

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Democrat treachery in the form of Eric Swallwell attempting to get another date with the one woman to ever touch his micropenis.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        When it comes to SEAD thoroughness is more important than speed
        A HARM in time saves nine, as they say

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >American Dollartree status: Empty.
      So America wins the battle and loses the war?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      just like in the ukraine huh

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Statistics can be made up - especially in an authoritarian nation. The proof is in actions.
    America, when facing an actual military, has historically done very well. (When it doesn't, it doesn't, as seen in Afghanistan and Vietnam.)
    Last thing China did was get its shit pushed in when it tried to support the Khmer Rouge against Vietnam. Before that, it could only help Best Korea with massive losses. Need I mention the little islands Taiwan has near the coast?
    America seems worse off, because freedom of the press forces the military to be somewhat honest when the truth comes out. This makes them appear terrible, but also makes them VERY aware of any weaknesses and provides an incentive to fix them.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >(When it doesn't, it doesn't, as seen in Afghanistan and Vietnam.)
      The military was successful in both of these examples as far as combat performance goes

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you fucking retarded or something? From a military perspective, the US did well in both Vietnam and Afghanistan. You can't judge a military's capabilities based on political decisions, and the factors that make someone lose a political war generally go out of the window if we're talking about a war of survival.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >From a military perspective, the US did well in both Vietnam and Afghanistan
        >the US did well in Vietnam
        So well that sandbagging had become routine and that the murder of officers by their own men had become prolific enough that they literally coined the term "fragging" to describe it?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Yes.
          The only problem the US had in Vietnam, was not invading the north, meaning they couldn't win, because their whole strategy relied on the south Vietnamese gays actually doing their job and not being corrupt pieces of shit.
          The Americans literally won every battle.

          I still fucking despise the Americans for being subhuman scum who enabled, and allied, with the commies during WW2, but that doesn't mean they didn't do well against third world shitholes in the post-WW2 world. The Germans were the last people who outfought the Americans to the point of humiliation despite fighting with the broken remnants of their military and 80% of their forces being on the eastern front. But as they tend to do, the Germans ran into that old logistics and attrition wall. It doesn't really matter how many enemies you kill if there's an endless supply of them.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            blame the Germans for chimping out and invading France

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The Germans were the last people who outfought the Americans to the point of humiliation

            That would be the PLA in 1950.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The Germans were the last people who outfought the Americans to the point of humiliation
            When was this?

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              In the minds of Wehraboos. Hitler losing and the Nazis being eliminated as a political force before they could sink into the kind of corruption and degeneracy we see from other authoritarian regimes means they never saw it fail, giving it a sort of King Arthur-esque quality, preserved in a youthful Avalon of "never been sufficiently tried."

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Self-correction, never saw it fail of its own accord. Circumstances allow the Wehraboo to eternally blame the world's perniciousness for the fall of National Socialism rather than noting that the expansionist characteristics of that ideology made the rest of the world banding up against it inevitable.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                So the West and the Soviet Union are like Mordred and Morgana? And Rommel is like Lancelot or something? And the U-boote are Excalibur? Or would the V2 be Excalibur? Who's Merlin? Himmler?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                slow down old man
                you need to use Avengers references, otherwise the young folx won't understand

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Tbf Mussolini did get to rule for 20 years…and cemented himself and Italian fascism as an absolute joke.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Well if we measure things by how the Italians did it the world would have come to the conclusion that tanks are obsolete in the late 30's.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >The Germans were the last people who outfought the Americans to the point of humiliation
            Didn't the Americans kill like 8 Germans for every single American that was killed? And didn't the Americans manage to go all the way from the western coast of France to taking Germany within like...a year? That's not humiliation, that's Germany getting BTFO'd.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            KeK this is Russian tier copium. The Japanese were by far the more dangerous enemy. There are endless accounts of troops being afraid of being sent to the Pacific to face the Japanese. It is well understood by fucking everyone that the western front of WW2 was the literal easiest nicest place to be. The germans humbled nobody but the French.
            Chosin reservoir, and, and the Phillipines are the last times the US suffered a humbling defeat.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            The enemy of my enemies is my friend

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Not that guy but the US consistently raped the NVA and VC in every engagement between the two. The faceraping reached such an extreme degree that the VC basically ceased to exist as a fighting force by 1970.

          The issue was that the NVA could keep trickling down south indefinitely, and the US had no real way to permanently put them out of action without invading the north.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >America, when facing an actual military, has historically done very well. (When it doesn't, it doesn't, as seen in Afghanistan
      The USA stomped Afghanistan flat.

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Paper stats mean nothing Chang

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that China can't project it's military power past its own borders. The Chinese cannot contend with the largest navy in the world, not "purely on statistics" or by any other metric.

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    This post has convince me that China is superpower

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not being Chinese

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    That's pretty sad as far as propaganda goes. I mean, listing off lies, propaganda and irrelevant facts.
    The US is further ahead in hypersonics, but hypersonics are generally a cope weapon that you rely on if you can't develop a technologically advanced missile that can be effective without just "going fast".
    The "drone swarms" argument is based on a fake video, though at least on a general basis, the chinks actually do make decent commercial drones, so this is the argument that's the closest to the truth.
    Also, the number of naval ships doesn't matter. The number of carriers and its aircraft, not to mention the number and quality of the other ships and their weapon systems are what matter, and China usually makes floating dogshit.
    It's the same with the "serving members". Unless there's a massive difference, quality trumps quantity in every case. Russia vs Ukraine is a good example, with Russia being raped up the ass, while Ukraine takes comparatively few losses, despite the Ukrainians having rushed, second-tier European training.
    Lastly, there's the case of experience, and American are retarded gays who love to fight pointless wars instead of dealing with the commie gays, garden gnomes and Black folks destroying their country, so they have plenty of combat experience, and the R&D to back up that experience.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      in the longer version of this video, the female "special" forces operators were conducting room entry without a round in the chamber. They're trained to enter the room first, chamber the first round, and then begin firing. Chinese training is a joke. Worse than russia probably.

      Chang only has experience fighting unarmed peasants and it shows.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Worse, they're arrogant about it. They refuse to learn, because learning means correcting mistakes, correcting mistakes means admitting mistakes, admitting mistakes means losing face, and losing face means a Party member's career is damaged and the Party as a whole is stained. Can't have that, actual military effectiveness matters less to the CCP than keeping an iron grip on their own population. Russia was doing the same until Putin started believing his own propaganda.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        i've never actually seen the full vid, can i get a link?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A-Are those rifles keyholing at distance of like 5 feet?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >American and Russian ammo tumbles to cause damage!
        >you make bullet tumble!
        >1:200 twist rate
        >bullet flips end over end
        >only ever shoot at protesters and dissidents less than 20M
        Why do you think they pack so many grenade launchers?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        not just keyholing, they're keyholing like a fucking champion. SUPERIOR CHINESE TECHNOLOGY!!!!!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Rubber bullets for riot control.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          So? We've had rubber bullets that fly straight for like fifty years.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            he's coping and most likely lying

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      A-Are those rifles keyholing at distance of like 5 feet?

      >not my problem

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    paper tiger 2.0
    American weaponry has been battle tested
    Chinese shit is hyped in propaganda, and never field tested against American tech
    just like Russian shit was
    both are autocratic countries more interested in appearance and projection of strength than true power, and have demonstrated a willingness to cut corners when making their military infrastructure and hardware

    which can be readily observed in what footage we can see of their tech, with tanks that LOOK good... but have their barrel's bounce around like they have St. Vitus' Dance

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Obviously I don’t want any WWIII tier war, but it would be genuinely interesting to see how well Chink hardware holds up in practice. Doubt that they would have anything that would be best in class, no fucking chance, but are they good copies or bad copies?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Obviously I don’t want any WWIII tier war
        Why the fuck wouldn't you? Every day that passes without a civilizational collapse we get more gays and gun laws.

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's going to be fun seeing all that Chinese hardware fall apart because the contractors delivered under spec garbage.

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Based purely on statistics
    After all these months, haven't you learned yet?

  22. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      good to know that they are just like us :´)

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If they masturbate too much they'll have massive forearms. How can the west even compete?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >US cultural victory achieved

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Why must people fight when we have so much in common?
      >all wars are civil wars because all men are brothers

  23. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based on statistics, Russia shouldn't have been getting its fucking ass handed to it by a bunch of Ukrainian volkssturm, yet here we are

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Sure they should. Did you forget the 0.1 vatnik multiplier?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Can someone give me an unbiased summary of the war up to this point and the likelyhood of russia attacking other bordering countries?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia is a kleptocratic autocracy, terrible for creating a competent army
        >Ukraine has been preparing for war since 2014
        >Russia attempts a decapitation strike, fails miserably, forced to completely withdraw
        >They manage to secure the mostly undefended and flat Southern front, notably taking Kherson, Melitopol and Mariupol
        >Offensive stalls because of shit logistics
        >Slowly being pushed back by Ukraine
        And that's about it. Winter is coming in a few weeks and it will be the decisive factor.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Russia has already attacked multiple other bordering countries in its history. No need for the context of this war to recognize this.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      the inverse law of gopnik. one will kill an army like popeye. too many and they just fuck up. die like wet toilet paper.

  24. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Geography. Logistics.

  25. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Wing Loooooooooooong lol
    btw russia is the second military power in the world
    puting could take kiev in 2 weeks if he just wanted to

  26. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Did this dude actually live? I ever followed up on it but I refuse to believe that was survivable.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes. He is permanently paralyzed from the neck down however. So death would have been preferable.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >So death would have been preferable
          Well, he was a dancing Asian ladyboy, so that goes without saying.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          This is why we need to augment our spine. The flesh is weak!

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        He's alive but he has serious nerve and spinal injuries and his recovery is up in the air at this point.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Herro asian 47 for your next target you are to eriminate a member of the band "Mirror"....

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      wtf none of the crowd even reacted...?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Well, first of all, the clip ends too fast to figure out whether they did or not. Unless you saw a longer version of the video or something.
        Second, they're chinksects - if you react, if you help, you're part of the situation, which means you're liable to get sued. Therefore, if you drive over a baby, or have a colleague pinned by industrial machinery - you walk on, because helping will only put you in trouble.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      why do they ALL die like this? and all on camera?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >person gets seriously fucking injured/killed
      >panic emoji face

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've noticed that third-worlders do that a lot
        I'm never sure whether it's because they genuinely don't give a fuck or whether it's because that's how they seriously communicate and they don't see how disrespectful it is.
        I sometimes lean towards the latter, because a lot of middle-aged women in western countries seem to use emojis at inappropriate times too, and I'm pretty sure they don't grasp the idea that emojis are supposed to be jocular.

  27. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What factors are there that could tip the balance back in America's favor?
    Massive investment in shipbuilding, stockpiling munitions, increasing military spending to 20% of GDP according to the defense contractors, their lobbyists and the generals hoping to join the board of a defense contractor after retiring.
    In actuality the US is still light years ahead in everything.

  28. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based purely on statistics my penis is 4000% larger than the average for the sample group

  29. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    ~*~India Superpower 2030~*~

    Source: united states air force

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      https://i.imgur.com/84UqEmO.jpg

      Based purely on statistics, China's military is better than America's. What factors are there that could tip the balance back in America's favor?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      By 2030.... Australia will be easy meat for Indonesia

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >PPP

  30. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What factors are there that could tip the balance back in America's favor?
    The factor of accounting for the fact that China regularly under/over reports statistics to represent itself more favorably on the world stage.

  31. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Based purely on statistics,
    >put out by the CCP
    Its the same bullshit with IQ they say the average Chinese IQ is 108 but its clearly just a giant cope to make up for the fact they lack all ability to make their own shit so they steal it from westerners and claim it as their own

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      They outnumbered them and caught them in a surprise counter-attack that no one saw coming (hence the surprise). Even with the element of surprise, Chinese losses were so atrocious it limited how they long they could keep it up. Take Fox Company’s stand: they inflicted enough casualties on three enemy battalions that Chinese command decided it was more prudent to stop trying to take the hill and just go around it. They very nearly succeeded in surrounding and enclosing US forces with a massive leg up on them, but still failed to stop them from consolidating their forces and successfully performing a fighting retreat.
      If anything, the humiliation was on the Chinese for having the advantage but utterly wasting their chance to decapitate a good chunk of the US forces in Korea.

  32. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    geography
    china's only outlets into the ocean are through narrow chokepoints in SEA, and between Taiwan and Japan
    theyre segregated from south Asia and SEA by the largest mountain range on earth
    seperated from central Asia by a giant and mountainous desert
    and seperated from the north by Mongolia, Russia, and Siberia
    the USA can just blockade 99% of their trade and isolate them lmao

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >USA can just blockade 99%
      A strongly worded fax to ship insurance companies would be enough. Ships don't move without insurance.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Hello Peter

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Based insurance underwriter. a good day to you and yours.

  33. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Reality.

  34. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >US Miltary rated weak/very weak
    >Chinese Military rated very strong/invincible
    Shartbros how do we turn this around?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >air force very weak
      >space weak
      >navy weak
      >marines strong
      What the fuck?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The Heritage Foundation added that its report is based on the ability of the military to defeat two major competitors approximately simultaneously.
        so it assumes that we are in a 2v1, and that it's china and some other country. who the fuck would the other country be that would be strong enough to give us issue while also not being an ally? it can't be russia because obviously they've been exposed.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Iran, North Korea, some South American country I really don't know who else. Maybe the allied country distracts the usa in one area of the world while China goes conquer mode in South East Asia.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Heritage has retarded standards for "weak" vs "strong," if you read what they have to say it's nothing that unreasonable but their metric for an acceptable US military is
        >can the US military win a war on three continents at once?
        if you say "no," then it's automatically marginal
        if you say "no, only one," then it's automatically weak
        their more substantive complaints are as follows,
        >Army: recruiting crisis, gib more money bcoz inflation
        >Navy: hurry the fuck up and renovate your shipyards or rebuild commercial shipbuilding holy shit you're never going to hit the 355 manned hulls you are legally required to
        >Air Force: some valid criticism on the low level of the munitions stockpile mixed in with eternal F-35 butthurt
        >Marines: limited scope allows limited budgets to go further, happy with AVPLAN, also they foist fuckups on Amphibious Ships onto the Navy rating
        >Space Force: still want more launching capability so real-time satellite datalinks are viable for soldiers (air force & artillery), considered to be improving but too slowly
        >Nooks: still angry about all the treaty-related cancellations under Bush n' Obama, also overreacting to "failed tests" that get publicized rampantly
        >Missile Defense: rightfully angry about the lack of missile defense at all levels, less reasonably bitter about the ones that actually exist and work great despite low budget and low procurement
        >Cyber: hackermans are cool (this is one of the worst areas in the US military but inexplicably Heritage thinks they're doing fine)

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Gotcha, so usual case of "America severely overestimates potential opposition, will shortly overcompensate and redefine warfare (again)." Makes sense.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Another trillion dollars in investments for the defense budget, of course.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >China
        To be fair, when you steal/copy everything most of the budget is actual construction costs.

  35. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    who do you guys think will be the MacArthur for the chinese after we glass them in the inevitable upcoming the Strongest Ever Power in History vs the Glass Giant

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Jeb!

  36. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    being the modern military

  37. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Us had hypersonic missiles, deployed and working, since 1975 look up sprint missile. They stopped using them sometimes later when the Russians seemed keen on opening up.

  38. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Anyone have that long multi-post screenshot of how China is nothing but a paper tiger and never will be anything but because it's demographics are shot and the strong peasant farming generations are gone and nothing is left but asthmatic nearsighted dweebs from the hellscapes that are Chinese post-industrial urbanism?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Have a slide about China being a cutting edge space military instead.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >launches less than 10% as much as the US (and dropping lmao)

        lol okay

        call me when you have a launch system that isn't refried soviet trash

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >he doesn't know
          China isn't static anon. They're growing stronger.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >disposable trash based off of 80s Soviet designs
            >meanwhile the US has launch costs dropping by an order of magnitude every decade

            Out of all of the metrics you could have chose to have a dick waving contest about, you chose the absolute worst possible one.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              >official American Space Force powerpoints are "chink dick waving"
              It's fortunate for America you'll never be relevant.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            China will grow larger.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        if only spacex could launch satellites like this thread has launched my sides

  39. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  40. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

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  41. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Even with the completely contrived qualifier of 'based purely on statistics', this is only true if you focus in on shit like total Navy ships and ignore more meaningful statistics like average length of killchain, logistical support and turnaround times, flight hours, PGMs dedicated to training, and size/experience of training cadres.

  42. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >issued actual chinese airshit gear
    I guess it doesn't matter if your guys don't have real body armor and don't have optics if you have twice as many soldiers as the other army.

  43. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Decades of logistics and war experience
    Strong institutional backbone
    International alliances

  44. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The fact that those statistics are complete fabrications certainly helps.

  45. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The last few months has shown to the entire world how absolutely bloated with corruption and scams are Chinese construction firms.
    What assurances are there that the Chinese military-industrial complex isn't exactly the same?

  46. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
  47. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >a technology the US is still developing
    We've had this shit for decades.

  48. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Guys just let them believe it and we'll have another Russia "world's second military" situation in a few years when the war heats up. If anything we benefit from chink delusion

  49. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Air superiority

  50. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >statistics
    >based upon China's admitted figures
    >from the nation that cheats so hard on a endemic level that they get banned from international tournaments
    Oooooooof

  51. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >American published numbers are from real world facts and data
    >Chinese published numbers are pulled from fanfiction
    This will tip the balance.

  52. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based purely on statistics, Puccia should've been fighting in Portugal by now.

  53. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    meh idk, I just have a gut feeling if all out war occurred between China and Anglosphere, China would completely collapse and get rolled and their women would showcase their pussies to us.

  54. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based purely on statistics, Russia has the second most powerful military in the world. In reality, we can see that this isn't the case.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Russia is winning against Ukraine + all the aid the west can spare however
      >muh junkyard tech
      Ukraine got Germany’s IRIS-T air defense system before Germany did

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia is winning against Ukrain
        lol
        lmao even

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      It is the second most powerful but the gap with the first is just so large that the title is meaningless.
      It's not Russia which is punny : it's the USA which are near-invincible

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      in reality russia has second most powerful army in ukraine

  55. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    No it’s not, but I’m sure this brain dead article can usher in another round of fresh funds for the MIC

  56. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    May i see those statistics you speak of ?

  57. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Based purely on statistics
    China won't even release their GDP numbers anymore. They have a huge, competent army, but it's a safe bet they're inflating the fuck out of everything.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >They have a huge, competent army,

  58. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I love propaganda like this. Either this is written by a slant eyed gay who feels the need to posture because of his micro penis or this a piece written by an American journalist who got payed by defense companies to write this shit. China literally hasn't accomplished anything in terms of combat or war.

  59. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Via what statistic? You understand that just counting to a higher number is not a al statistic. The US has a much larger airforce. Larger collection of current generation land vehicles. Larger naval displacement and far more modern submarines and just more aircraft carriers. Sure China has more T72, and untrained infantry. But those are not statistics, just bodies.

  60. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I don't care about which puppet state is strongest.

  61. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What factors are there that could tip the balance back in America's favor?
    East Asians fold under pressure, and generally have horrible emotional stability.
    There's a zero percent chance that any organized Chinese military would be able to withstand the mental woes of combat.
    Remember when the Chinese military got BTFO by Indians over a border dispute? Shameful display.

    Anybody who's played League of Legends knows exactly what I'm talking about. Mental boom. Estrogenic manchildren. Brains not suitable for combat.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      despite me shitting on china here

      I miss the autistic shill who would spam his collection of cope collected from PrepHole and wikipedia about how china USED to be powerful... in order to cope with the fact that the mongols, japanese, and europeans assraped them literally and figuratively
      wonder if he failed to produce results and got fired

      I do wonder how much of that is cultural, because china's culture seems to have evolved down this path, resulting in a lot of problems like you said.
      they DID make some big grandiose thing with their ban on vidya games.
      I am very curious as to what effect that will have on their youngest generation.
      Will it actually have some kind of positive effect?
      Or will their existing system tailored for the corrupt, cheating, and ruthless squash the potential.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I genuinely don't know how a society can continue to exist when everybody fucks each other over that much. The reused gutter oil, the lack of care in the construction industry, the murdering people you accidentally harm because it actually causes you less trouble than letting them live, etc. People tend to be selfish cunts all the time in the west but it seems like the communist chinese take it to another level.
        I wonder how much better their culture would have been if the actual republic prevailed, if it would have actually improved at all.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >I genuinely don't know how a society can continue to exist when everybody fucks each other over that much
          The factory worker peasants generate so much value from their 16 hour shifts, that the business owners can effectively cover up their problems with money.
          >ahh this guy fucked us over?
          >we'll just buy our stuff from somebody else and pay him extra to actually ensure it's high quality
          >instead of complaining and fixing the problem, i'll just mitigate the issue and leave it for somebody else
          Sad state of affairs.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I can't imagine them being successful in combat. Despite their intelligence and technology, you still need to be brave to win, and generations of cheater culture has likely cause irreversible damage to their mental functionality.
        I just can't see enough Chinese men being willing to put themselves in harm's way in order to win a fight, when for their entire lives, they've been taught to always mitigate hard work as much as possible. It's a recipe for disaster. Compare them, to the wild yet selfless white guys who'd willingly sacrifice their own limbs to protect their brothers, or the latino savages who just love violence, and I don't think the individual soldiers in the Chinese military would be able to compare.
        They also have gigantic egos, which would work against them as soon as any negative signs start to emerge.
        But of course, only time will tell. Can't cheat war.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >east asians fold under pressure
      >Vietamese exist
      to say the chinese fold under pressure would be understandable, but comeon anon.

  62. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Based purely on statistics, China's military is better than America's

  63. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Must be some sort of tactical advantage here

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      serbtard you'll have to stop phoneposting sis
      imagine having a cope folder on your fucking phone

  64. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I miss the autistic shill who would spam his collection of cope collected from PrepHole and wikipedia about how china USED to be powerful... in order to cope with the fact that the mongols, japanese, and europeans assraped them literally and figuratively
    wonder if he failed to produce results and got fired

  65. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Based purely on statistics,
    >What factors are there that could tip the balance back in America's favor?
    Lying about capabilities harder. How do you think China did it?

  66. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    PrepHole is truly the easiest to troll board. bro didnt even use bait, he dropped rods from god on us,

  67. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >What factors are there that could tip the balance back in America's favor?
    Hypersonic cruise missile spam from submarines. It's literally a fucking amazing tactic that would be an excellent precursor to air-strikes carried out by carrier fixed-wing aviation, and one which America has been sleeping on for too long.

  68. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based purely on statistics I have pushed 15,000 miles of penis through your mother.

  69. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    When was the last time China fought in a war?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      When they got their asses beaten by Vietnam.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Did the US get their asses beaten by Vietnam?

  70. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Based purely on statistics the average chinese penis is about 30 centimeters long and Jinping doesn't look like Winnie at all. xiexie

  71. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Do Chinese tanks even matter? When is there going to be a land war near China?

  72. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Has china even seen a conflict outside it's own borders before? I was under the impression that their military is largely untested.

  73. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Up time for naval aviators compared to their chinese counterparts. Oh, and about 6 decades of modern blue water navy force projection experience.

  74. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    what happened with quantum radars?

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