>According to Ukrainian defense minister: Ukraine wants one million soldiers.

>According to Ukrainian defense minister: Ukraine wants one million soldiers.
>https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62118953.amp
>According to KYIV : Ukraine has deployed 750k soldiers.
>https://kyivindependent.com/national/russias-chaotic-mobilization-unlikely-to-change-ukraine-wars-course
>According to the West: Russia had at the beginning of the invasion 200k.
>https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2022/10/16/world/europe/russia-draft-ukraine.amp.html
>According to Pentagon: Russia has lost 80k soldiers
>https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2022/08/08/pentagon-says-russian-casualties-in-ukraine-up-to-80-000_5992916_4.html

>Russia has 120k soldiers distributed throughout Ukraine.
>Russia now has 6 times less soldiers than Ukrainians, according to Ukraine and the West.

So, can someone explain this data? The West is lying ? How is it possible that Russia is still fighting with such numerical inferiority ?

  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Look at this fat vatnik puke trying to mental gymnastics into winning the war. How embarrassing, I feel sorry for his parents.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine being so mentally deficient you have to communicate with wojaks.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ukrainian and western media are lying? Answer the question gay, how is it possible that 120k can hold the front.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            are you merely pretending to be retarded? Even taking everything you posted at face value does not take into account all the moobilized suckers that have been funneled into the special needs operation by the putler cabal since its start. Not to mention all those poor sods press ganged into meatshields for rashists in the fake republics, and fagner penal battalions.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              Jesus christ anon, try false flagging a bit more genuinely. Nobody talk (outside of vatnik caricature) like that. Moobilised putler cabal, special needs operation, fagner? Seriously?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I assure you I choose my words with exceptional care, and it costs me some effort to rein in the contempt I hold for russian invaders and force myself to remember that despite it all, as processed and warped and perverted they are by the state machinery, they are deep down still human beings in desperate need of redemption.
                I'm not moderate, btw, I'm a pacifist.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                This place has become another r/ukraine. There's no real discussion about the war at all. Just endless torrent of mindless Russian hate. My post will be responded to by people calling me a vatnik and who knows what else, but it's the fucking truth. The Ukraine War has turned PrepHole into an absolute shithole flooded with American media outlet and Ukraine MoD talking points mixed with some Russian cope which is probably 50% fake anyway. I hope the war ends soon and that most of the tourists leave instead of sticking around and continuing to ruin this board.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                well you choose to ignore all legit answers and focus on the name calling and shittiest posts, fuck you for arguing in bad faith

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I'm not arguing in bad faith. Every thread is flooded with this shit. There's even been threads not related to the current war at all where people make bot-like Russia hate posts.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Russian cope which is probably 50% fake
                I doubt there's single Russian here, it's just east euros and west euros fucking with them pretending to be ruskies.
                Over euro night it's burger board with the poorest of the poor burgers discussing cheap guns.
                I would say this is saddest place of all 4ch which is really something.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah I can't wait for the war to end too, but not for the same reason. Secret stuff will be unearthed then, and the REALLY interesting discussions can start to happen. We were all speculating while it was happening, then we will have the conclusions, and see how we arrived there.
                Its gonna be amazing

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                go on, don't be coy
                give us some dirt

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                If you had been on PrepHole longer than 8 months, you'd know that this war is every PrepHoleommando's wet fucking dream. Fuck you.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Of course it is, but the level of "discussion" is abysmal even by PrepHole standards.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                I support this anon. PrepHole has become "fuck off vatnik" and "TRANNIES TRANNIES TRANNIES GLOBOHOMO"
                It's like Reddit vs 4chan at the moment

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's just the vatniks. There aren't two sides, it's just the Russians that are trying to shill and then the actual board making fun of them.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nah. 4chan have become their own asexually transmitted disease, like the virgin equivalent of AIDS. The actual russian spam is pasted word for word, and is written in a sort of snarky half formal English that uses 70 bong vernacular that you can usually spot. And it's true that even normal steering of the conversation towards reality ends up getting "fuck off vatnik" responses. I do enjoy the actual military threads looking at the movements on the front and the weapons and gear deployed, but half the foaming at the mouth Ukraine fans have no idea what they are looking at, they can't identify aircraft or military vehicles, uniforms, ordinance, it's just obvious they aren't from here. Anyway I'll stop fucking whining

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >ordinance
                And which one would that be, officer?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Nobody gives a fuck about Russia or Ukraine no matter how hard you try to shill.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Russia has no propaganda*~~)
                Look at facebook boomer meme*~~

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Again, if you had been here longer than 8 months you'd know that isn't true.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Sorry, but 4chan turned me against Russia. I was just watching 2 countries at war until /chug/ came along and converted the whole board. Now I fucking hate Russia and 4chan and hope they both get nuked

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Now I fucking hate Russia and 4chan
                4chan actually won over east euro globohomo shills and they made retreat to PrepHole, that's why this board is so shit, you're mostly talking to polaks and other morons of EU.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous
              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >This place has become another r/ukraine
                PrepHole is just cringe at this point

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                my god how much better 2ch is than 4ch. actual shit that is not just reddit and twitter reposts. what a pity it's all in slavic runes.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's beautiful

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                What is it with all these flare videos? I'm out of the loop

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Russians proudly documenting their warcrimes.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Russians proudly documenting their warcrimes.
                So, chemical weapon?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Incendiaries.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                White phosphorous. Not really NBC or even illegal, although normally it would be used against a legitimate military target instead of against civilians.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                It's thermite, aluminum+iron oxide.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/h2prjhw.jpg

                >This place has become another r/ukraine
                PrepHole is just cringe at this point

                >Russian cope which is probably 50% fake
                I doubt there's single Russian here, it's just east euros and west euros fucking with them pretending to be ruskies.
                Over euro night it's burger board with the poorest of the poor burgers discussing cheap guns.
                I would say this is saddest place of all 4ch which is really something.

                This place has become another r/ukraine. There's no real discussion about the war at all. Just endless torrent of mindless Russian hate. My post will be responded to by people calling me a vatnik and who knows what else, but it's the fucking truth. The Ukraine War has turned PrepHole into an absolute shithole flooded with American media outlet and Ukraine MoD talking points mixed with some Russian cope which is probably 50% fake anyway. I hope the war ends soon and that most of the tourists leave instead of sticking around and continuing to ruin this board.

                >Why... WHY WON'T YOU JUST STOP ARGUING!? DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND IF WE DON'T WIN ON PrepHole WE GET SENT TO UKRAINE!?
                Lmao, not my problem.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                the hell happened there?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Vatniks used a rocket-delivered line charge meant for mine-clearing to explode a rooftop. That video was from like 6 months or so ago.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Vattan, you've completely shit up 2ch as well.
                Who do you think you're fooling?

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >hee hee le failed comedienne based for the win
                That's just great, very nice.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >cringe
                says all we need about the value of your opinion.

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Russian cope which is probably 50% fake
                I doubt there's single Russian here, it's just east euros and west euros fucking with them pretending to be ruskies.
                Over euro night it's burger board with the poorest of the poor burgers discussing cheap guns.
                I would say this is saddest place of all 4ch which is really something.

                https://i.imgur.com/h2prjhw.jpg

                >This place has become another r/ukraine
                PrepHole is just cringe at this point

                my god how much better 2ch is than 4ch. actual shit that is not just reddit and twitter reposts. what a pity it's all in slavic runes.

                rusfags mad as fuck that nobody is buying the astroturfing

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Off to the front cumrade

              • 2 months ago
                Anonymous

                Off to fagner you complete gay.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            >how is it possible
            Wars tend to be pretty slow because people are hesitant to die

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous
        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          It's beautiful

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Nice avatarfagging.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Ukrainian and western media are lying? Answer the question gay, how is it possible that 120k can hold the front.

        very odd but remember you have been seeing on the news that Russians have been having youth drives and sending their disabled bodies and elderly alike to the meat grinder

  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia had at the beginning of the invasion 200k
    Since then they deployed every soldier except skeleton crews from everywhere, including as far as Sakhalin. They conscripted every breathing male in LDNR regions (about 200k). They scraped everyone who would take insane for Russian standards money to join the fight. Then they put under the gun every single prisoner in the country that would agree to join the fight, hoping to earn freedom. That's a lot, A LOT more than the initial 200k.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      are you merely pretending to be retarded? Even taking everything you posted at face value does not take into account all the moobilized suckers that have been funneled into the special needs operation by the putler cabal since its start. Not to mention all those poor sods press ganged into meatshields for rashists in the fake republics, and fagner penal battalions.

      So Russia magically solved its logistical problems and was able to recruit another 200,000 in its puppet republics? Do you have any Western sources to confirm those figures? I find it hard to believe that Russia was able to mobilize that.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >So Russia magically solved its logistical problems
        Oh heavens no, pressganging donbabweans anr luwandans isn't much of a logistical problem as such, especially considering their low end gear

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >So Russia magically solved its logistical problems
          Who said that? These people were fighting with mosint nagants, in uniforms that they found in their grandparents' graves and ate dirt until most of them perished.

          Half of Russia's separatist force dead or wounded - UK
          https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61891462.amp

          Well, 100k for the Russians. That leaves us with 220k at most, bearing in mind that the militias fight in Dombass and not on the other fronts, this leaves us at 120k or a bit more. The figure is still very screwed for the Russians, they have lost 80k of their professional army and 100k of the militias.

          That is unsustainable

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            hence why they are losing territory

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >So Russia magically solved its logistical problems
        Who said that? These people were fighting with mosint nagants, in uniforms that they found in their grandparents' graves and ate dirt until most of them perished.

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    In some places like Bakhmut the Russians outnumber the Ukrainians, in some places the Ukrainians outnumber the Russians. In most places Russians still have an artillery advantage. This is more important than simply having more troops on the ground. Also a very large amount of those Ukrainian troops are guarding places without Russians like Odessa and the Belarussian border and lot of them are just there for logistics and support roles. So in the end it kinda evens out.

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    did you forget the part where there are already dead russian conscriptovic in ukraine. so its more then 120k

    Also, using superior numbers saves lives. why wouldn't they use them. Good part of them is in training or rotation anyway. or area local defense and useless in offensive operations

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're an idiot. It's 750,000 throughout the entire country, not on 'the front'. If you're counting the entire country (which has other borders to defend) why are you not including Russia's soldiers in their territory in the numbers, which would mean Russia has 1,530,000.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Funny how it turned from
      >we will take Kiev in 3 days
      to
      >we're taking your land 0.001km per week!
      to
      >you're only taking back 5km per week, we still have some of your land
      to
      >haha we are still holding the line! take that!

      as said, you are carefully omitting information to suit a narrative despite that information being vital to the discussion.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >discussion
        I'm sure he made this thread to discuss the topic. I've seen the "answer the question! answer the question!" spam today a lot.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        Separatists with ruskies help are doing miracle with such disproportion in manpower no to mention how many containers of money Biden printed and sent to Kyiv hunta plus making every nato vassal state send even more money and gear. It's the Ruskies alone against whole globohomo.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >haha we are still holding the line! take that!

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          >hunta
          Хyй бyдeшь?

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          We would spell it "junta" in English, just an fyi my Russian friend. Surely the north Korea artillery and Iranian drones are sufficiently quality arms to counter the NATO support?

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Damn morons. It's Kiev junta but it's Kyiv hunta because it's in Ukrainian.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              No one cares, you're still a russhit.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      lets also not forget how ukraine has to station troops on the entire russian and belarussian border

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >So, can someone explain this data? The West is lying ? How is it possible that Russia is still fighting with such numerical inferiority ?
    Let me guess, you're from a French-speaking African country.

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    > ?
    > ?
    subhuman fr*nchoid detected, post discarded

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Reinforcements from the Central African Republic.

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Tell me how do I know that you're a brown thirdworlder?

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Lol, do you think the 200,000 deployed to Ukraine are all the military personell Russia involves in their operation? Do you think the other soldiers in Russia are just twiddling their thumbs while the army that moved into Ukraine is a self contained group that organizes, manages and supplies itself?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >200,000 deployed to Ukraine are all
      Yes I do, other half are Ukrainians like in not all Ukrainians are fighting for Zelensky and his wife despite narrative in western media that Kiev govt is whole Ukraine. It's not.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >narrative in western media that Kiev govt is whole Ukraine.
        Пoвтopяю, хyй бyдeшь?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      The same could be said of the Ukrainians. Russia has lost 80k of its professional army, practically 50% of the deployment in Ukraine. The militias have lost 100k, more than 50% of their army.

      These figures are astronomical. Ukraine should be able to crush the Russians without difficulty, at the very least they should have twice as many troops at the front.

      >According to the West: Russia had at the beginning of the invasion 200k
      >According to Pentagon: Russia has lost 80k soldiers
      >Russia has 120k soldiers
      So lets ignore the fact that
      1. Russia constantly recruited extra soldiers from reservists
      2. Russia redirected more and more troops, like sailors, that were not part of initial invasion, to Ukraine
      3. Prigozhin constantly recruiting from 500k big prison population to attack Bakhmut
      4. LDNR recruiting every single male age 14-90 to fight
      5. extra 220-300k Puccia recruitied AND ALREADY started shipping them to frontline(dead new mobiks found in Luhansk), mobiks making video about getting shipped to Kherson with zero days of training)

      Russia has nowhere to scrape anymore, half of the militias are dead or wounded. They have 100k militia soldiers left, and they can only use it in the Dombass.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Russia has nowhere to scrape anymore
        which is why they drafted 300k+ mobiks to fill up holes.
        > Ukraine should be able to crush the Russians without difficulty
        You mean like they did in Izum, Lyman and Northern Kherson?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        War goes in bursts. Big offensive, followed by much wound licking, sorting of logistics issues and supply lines, replenishment of casualties, sorting out fresh equipment, digging in to hold what you have... then enemy counterattacks, etc. You can attack once you have the strenth and supply in palce.
        Ukraine have had some devestating pushes in recent weeks, and it's likely more are to come, but there's probably going to be a while where things slow down

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The same could be said of the Ukrainians.
        Except the Ukrainians also has to secure the rest of Ukraine away from the front lines, including all borders with Russia, Belarus and Transnistria, and point defense around any strategically important objectives and infrastructure, as well as Air Defense, Engineer troops deployed to maintain, repair and rebuild and logistics supplying not only the front lines but also all defensive units, aiding civil defense and critical civilian infrastructure like hospitals and power.
        Meanwhile Russia is the largest country on earth that is mostly outside Ukrainian reach excepts for the absolute border region.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    YES it is known fact counties give their battle plans trough public media. saged. reported. die of aids, gay.

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia has 120k soldiers distributed throughout Ukraine.

    lmao sure

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >According to the West: Russia had at the beginning of the invasion 200k
    >According to Pentagon: Russia has lost 80k soldiers
    >Russia has 120k soldiers
    So lets ignore the fact that
    1. Russia constantly recruited extra soldiers from reservists
    2. Russia redirected more and more troops, like sailors, that were not part of initial invasion, to Ukraine
    3. Prigozhin constantly recruiting from 500k big prison population to attack Bakhmut
    4. LDNR recruiting every single male age 14-90 to fight
    5. extra 220-300k Puccia recruitied AND ALREADY started shipping them to frontline(dead new mobiks found in Luhansk), mobiks making video about getting shipped to Kherson with zero days of training)

  13. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You should assume that both sides are full of absolute shit and the only concrete fact is that thousands of people are dying

  14. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine wants one million soldiers

    I want 1 million $$$

    I want 1 million gunz <--- woo hoo

    I want 1 million free hookers

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      If they're free then are they really hookers?

  15. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    You're an absolute cretin. You're comparing the total number of Ukrainian military personnel, including reserves and those in training, with what Russia has at the frontline.
    Russia has over a million military personnel in total, compared to the 750k Ukraine claims to have in total. Ukraine does not have near 750k people at the front. And that's not taking into account how a huge number of the Ukrainian force is in the national guard, with limited uses.
    Those numbers are really bad for an attacking force but Russia still has numerical superiority. And, most importantly, the ability to replace losses with a near-limitless amount of draftees. Even if it means they'll have near-zero training,

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Are you retarded? Russia just mobilized, explain to us how the hell a 120k army resisted all last month the Ukrainian army. Ukraine has numerical superiority because it was able to fully mobilize, it should be able to launch major offensives and totally destroy the Russians. If Russia and Ukraine had started with 200k each, right now Ukraine would have 80k soldiers advantage, because they refreshed the front, while Russia did not for months.

      Ukraine has spent 7 months mobilizing, training and replenishing its dead soldiers at the front, while Russia has not. The numerical advantage must be great, and yet the Ukrainians could not break the Russians for example last month. There are only three possible explanations:
      >The Ukrainians are incompetent and did not take advantage of their numerical advantage.
      >The Russian casualty figures are much lower, that explains why the Russians can hold the front.
      >The Ukrainian death toll is much higher than the Russian one, and that is why the numerical advantage has no effect.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >There are only three possible explanations
        There is a fourth one: you're a russhit.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >The numerical advantage must be great, and yet the Ukrainians could not break the Russians for example last month
        I love this new "we are not losing quick enough therefore we are winning" cope.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a 120k army
        >plus thousands of Wagner mercs and penal troopers
        >plus tens of thousands of "seperatist" puppet militia

        And the Ukrianians are breaking the Russians, every single day. Attrittion is continously favouring them and the Russians have been continously and massively losing ground over the last months.

        So what we arrive at is the fourth explanation: That you're contionously proving yourself a disingenious vatmoron by trying to pretend nothing of this is happening.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >there are only 3 explanations
        anon who told you that? Ukraine don't have 750K soldiers parked on the front. You can have 750K personnel IN TOTAL but they are rotated through deployments, training, rear guard, frontline, yadda yadda. There's not just a massive herd of soldiers milling around

  16. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    to make full post about how every question Vatniks ask can be answered without having to present 60k pic of dead Russian soldiers.
    >Ukraine has 750k soldiers and Puccia only had 200k, it's clear Puccia fights uphill battle with 4:1 disadvantage
    Ukrainian numbers include all the troops maintaining supply, training in UK, guarding Belarus, chudstria and Russian border. Russian number is only their ground forces send to Ukraine at the start, it doesn't count: railtroops that work daily to send supply from Siberia to Ukraine(28k), Naval power of black sea fleet(25k soldiers), Russian border guards(up to 170k, probably no more than 25% of that number though), Russian air force (280K). Oh look I've managed to find 400k Russian soldiers engaged in one way or another in war with Ukraine
    >but if Puccia suffered such horrendous they should get rolled over on a field
    that's exactly what happened on Kharkiv front
    >b-but if they had such big losses they would need something to replace that
    Exactly why they are planning to modernize 800 T-62 and are drafting 300k-1,2M men, they are out of tanks and soldiers.
    Reminder that it was predicted that Puccia had 3k working tanks of T-72, T-80 and T-90 type. If they are down to stealing Indian T-90S and modernizing T-62 it means they lost majority of their modern tanks.

    Look and what Puccia does and make conclusions from it

  17. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think Russia is really in a 'lions lead by donkeys' type situations.
    Where the average soldier is competent possibly even as good as everyone expected them to be before the war, but their command and government above them is incompetent and wastes their lives in battles that they shouldn't be fighting or by depriving them of supplies through logistical fuck ups.

  18. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Ukraine wants one million soldiers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Lel

  19. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    How many more days until they reach Kyiv?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      it's

  20. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Are russians on the frontline really THAT hungry?

  21. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >750k on the front
    >ukraine

    complete bullshit.

    I'd expect 100k with 150k on reserve or in low intensity positions ie belaruse border

    There simply isn't enough material on either side to field these meme numbers.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Ukraine's entire current mobilisation wave is up to 750k.
      Like you said, most of those people are working in the rear. And some of them are still in training.
      Also noteworthy, it doesn't even include all reservists, because there isn't enough kit for everyone and because volunteers are given priority over reservists.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I'd expect 100k with 150k on reserve or in low intensity positions ie belaruse border
      There is no point in spending those troops on the border, Russia does not have a significant number of troops to launch an offensive from Belarus. U.S. intelligence would detect any real attempt at an offensive and warn the Ukrainians.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >There is no point in spending those troops on the border,
        Border would be minimal relative to the rest.

        mil personnel in any conflict that is not on active combat gets divided between:

        active duty soldiers on rotation
        reserves
        recruits on training
        non-hot area supply runners
        border garrisons
        military police
        sam, cruise missile, etc manteinance and opertaion
        and more i'm probably forgetting.

        I'd expect at least the same number of people doing important stuff (tm) outside the frontline as there's people inside the frontline, all of whom went through mil recruitment and basic.

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