https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1677281861628833792
>Decide blowing up a NPP is your best bet at stopping an "invasion of your native land."
>Place explosives on roof and resivo-
>"AYO DEY GONNA BLOW DA PLANT!"
>Bumblerfrick a response about nuclear-waste-carrying missiles
>Build your own fortifications, machine gun nests, and watchtowers on the NPP.
>Blow the plant claiming it was incoming artillery strikes on your position.
So THIS is the power of a Tactical Advantage?
Russians really aren’t human, are they?
They're gonna fricking blow it aren't they. Goddamn Russians.
Ukraine Intelligence says the risk is aflling
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-spy-chief-says-nuclear-threat-zaporizhzhia-plant-subsiding-2023-07-06/
Whenever I see something like "Russia blew up the dam" or "Russia is about to blow the ZNP" I think to myself "Russia can't be that moronic, right?". But then I remember that, when the US said that Russia will invade Ukraine back in February 2022, I also thought "Russia can't be that moronic, right?". This war is just one big "Yes, Russia is actually that moronic."
>I think to myself "Russia can't be that moronic, right?".
Dam, son.
if they do it NATO will probably respond, they already said they would, what happens after that, who the frick knows
What do you think the response would be? My money is on massive DEAD followed by a pure air campaign to destroy every piece of armor and artillery inside the borders of Ukraine. I wouldn't be surprised if they took Crimea too.
I wish a homie would.
Massive cruise missile strike on the Kerch bridge that destroys it in multiple places, which NATO claims is the result of Ukrainian shelling.
And when the time comes you will still not post proofs.
I hope it's like the first Gulf War kek
Fricking amazing. Cutting all communications within the country in minutes? Insane.
I read this book “The Presidents Gardens” by al-Ramli. One of the characters in it fought in the Iran-Iraq war for all nine years. Same character fought the Americans. He described that one day as worse than all the days of fighting Iran combined.
Air strikes, tanks crushing his neighbors, running away through the desert for a week. They had no idea they were under attack until the tanks rolled over their trenches. It was brutal beyond our capacity to imagine.
This video gives me a huge patriot boner when I think about how cracked a NATO coalition military is against a conventional opponent.
It was basically all the blue-balling of the Cold War unleashed upon someone that couldn't just wave the nuke card. Art in motion.
The ultimate mercy nut that didn't end in post-nut clarity but instead set the stage for 3 decades of instability in the entire region.
sinking of Russian navy ships in several locations around the world
sends the message that we will frick you up without immediately committing to getting involved in Ukraine
If NATO gets directly involved I could seriously see them sinking the Black Sea fleet just because they can.
>blow up the plant
>NATO intervenes
>frick off back to Russia
>Putin's regime survives because now he can keep blaming NATO for basically everything, including the failure of the invasion
It all makes sense when you consider that Putin doesn't care about anyone other than the people within his inner circle.
Like this guy-
Its crazy, but so was Trump 2016 and the Red Sox winning the Finals. So it logically will happen.
>NATO intervenes
>Putin's regime survives
lol
lmao even
That is the likely outcome.
Putin has a much lower chance of survival by losing to Ukraine alone, especially after Prigozhin. If Nato joins in he can just pull the plug and create a new stabbed in the back mythology legitimized by Nato.
He could spin all he wants, it does not matter.
NATO intervening in this context would be under unprecedented circumstances: a state conducting a nuclear terrorist attack. It would involve denouncing Russia at a global scale, even China would have to denounce Russia if they want to keep up their charade. No regime is gonna survive this. This is some 40k win condition type shit.
That's why they would keep denying it, just like with MH17. And China, facing pressure over the Taiwan issue, would go along with them. They're already paying shills to spread the belief that Ukraine is responsible for this crisis. And let's not forget, for Putin, it doesn't really matter what people outside of Russia believe. You can't overthrow him from within the country. The only realistic way to topple him is by funding and training rebels through Ukraine.
Nuclear terrorism is not some airliner going down. China is already barely aligned with Putin, only remaining so because it doesn't have to do anything right now and still hoping the moron can call it quits. They would never in a million years board the sinking ship if it was lit on fire. China has been shitting their pants ever since they found out their ally is the biggest dud in history. I'd say their Taiwan plans are on indefinite hold. They could try and sneak on in if NATO is busy with Russia but they would never align with Russia under this scenario and it's not even clear how busy NATO would be in the first place.
It matters if what people think is "let's kill this c**t". Like all dictators, he shits himself every day at the prospect of ceasing to exist.
More likely, while Russia will milk everything it can out of the plant as a defensive position, in practice they probably expect it to be lost eventually. I don't think they will actually try to use it as a dirty bomb, but they will definitely try to leave it damaged and force Ukraine to spend the next few years trying to repair the damage that was caused. Anything to waste more of their opponent's time and funds. This won't actually affect anything in regards to the war's outcome, as the consequences will take years to manifest. It's just pure spite, to leave as much broken shit behind as possible and make any peacetime Ukraine can get in the future miserable.
I sincerely hope this is correct. The alternative is another nuclear-flavoured clusterfrick caused directly by russian scum.
Problem is, they're genuinely moronic. As was amply proven when they blew up the dam.
They only wanted to destroy a few sluice gates, but the whole fricking thing washed away.
So, it stands to reason that, if they try some sort of limited demolition, it'll spiral into a massive shitshow.
They realise the easiest way to convince the largest number of gullible morons is to wait until shells are flying anyway before blowing the plant. As long as Ukraine is at least in the area it becomes much easier for them to blame Ukraine for it.
Except Ukraine is unlikely to have another go at the plant. They'd very much rather envelop the area and force the vatniks out, or slowly grind them down with drone drops.
They will probably blow it on accident. The dam, red Forest, vdv. It's the Russians
They have about 150 billion rupees they can do anything with from this year alone. Or roughly 40-50% of their entire export profit can't be spent.
>rupees
Let me tell you again. The rouble is collapsing in value on international markets. Do you understand Y/N
Huh? That's a big reason why the Russian currency is collapsing. They can't spend 40-50% of their export profits because they have 150 billion in rupees stuck in Russia. No one wants it.
>hey have about 150 billion rupees
I'm not watching YouTube for economic news. That's just moronic.
Oh you really should watch that link its really about the billions of rupees and its value. Explains the value clearly. Rupees can be used to buy things form India. Like beads. Quite literally Indians biggest exports are israeliteellery and Gemstones (mostly fake)
Exports The top exports of India are Refined Petroleum ($49B), Diamonds ($26.3B), Packaged Medicaments ($19.2B), israeliteellery ($10.7B), and Rice ($10B), exporting mostly to United States ($71.2B), United Arab Emirates ($25.4B), China ($23.1B), Bangladesh ($14.1B), and Hong Kong ($11.2B).
The Russians because of restrictions can't spend them fast enough and the glut pile keeps growing at a relative rate of around a 1.5 to 2 billion a week.throw in inflation, loss of any profit, the currenies both falling compared to the rest of the world and compounding interests on debts overseas they can pay it's around 4 billon a week at current.
It's a china syndrome. It won't be fast and it won't stop.
>Packaged Medicaments
Watch them spend it all on codeine to turn into krokodil
>150 billion rupees
this is fricking pocket change for an entire country
150 billon in USD. The Russians can't spend half their export profits from this year alone.
>150 billon in USD
Then why did you keep saying 150B rupees you moron
>>150 billon in USD
>Then why did you keep saying 150B rupees you moron
He's lying, its not that simple at all.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-06-01/russia-s-rupee-trap-is-adding-to-147-billion-hoard-stuck-abroad
But with imports from India stagnating, Russia is ending up with an excess of rupees, which its companies have trouble repatriating because of local currency restrictions. Deadlock over a solution has left Russia expecting the surplus to rise further, according to people familiar with the negotiations.
Every quarter, the imbalance will likely generate the equivalent of $2 billion to $3 billion that Russia can’t use, according to Bloomberg Economics. The amount would add to an estimated $147 billion in net foreign assets built up abroad over the course of 2022.
>russians get stuck with poo currency
>they cannot redeem it
life imitates art
get stuck with poo currency
>>they cannot redeem it
>life imitates art
kek
>russians get stuck with poo currency
>they cannot redeem it
pottery
Shouldn’t have redeemed those T-90s
>150b Rupees
>Can't buy bombs, arrows, or lamp oil
Sorry Vatnink, I can’t GIVE credit.
Come back when you’re…
HMMMMMM
Not a zigger!
rare gentoo W
>>SAR!
>> You cannot redeem!
they should just make rupee's legal tender in russia for 3 years then use it to pay their people
lol like peg the ruble to the rupee lmfao
Why don't they use it to buy some benchod from India?
They are going to bomb it the second they lose it. They aren't trying to hold the land long term.
The war has turned into collective suicidd
It's going to be their own Forex reserves being spent on fixing it, so...
Is this the actual single situation where chemical weapons would actually be useful? (Ignoring the political dimension of Russia then using it as an excuse to fire back with whatever and at whatever they think they could get away with)
so let's lay it out:
advantages of blowing up plant:
1. makes ukraine waste assloads of resources
2. denies area
3. denies massive and important piece of infrastructure (remember they've been blowing up power plants since fall)
4. all the russia simp homosexuals would believe it was ukraine
5. all the pussy homosexuals in europe would be "muh nuclear disaster please stop this war"
6. creates another propaganda piece to show fetal alcohol brainlets in russia about how evil ukraine nazis are
7. nato already did nothing when the dam was blown up and will probably do nothing again
disadvantages of blowing up plant:
1. some radioactive shit (which is way overblown in the media) might drift towards crimea or whatever. Not that they care about crimea, they blew the dam up remember
2. nato will call them war criminals again
of course there's always the chance nato says enough is enough and decides to delete everything north of crimea with "operation assfrick" and russians will whine like b***hes for weeks before impotently giving up because it isn't worth a large scale war
>of course there's always the chance nato says enough is enough and decides to delete everything north of crimea with "operation assfrick" and russians will whine like b***hes for weeks before impotently giving up because it isn't worth a large scale war
I want this but I know it's not gonna happen
>will probably do nothing again
Based moron equating a dam bursting to a radiological disaster
NATO has stated that blowing the plant is a red line. Unlike Russian red lines, NATO ones don't only exist on paper.
>Unlike Russian red lines
>NATO ones don't only exist on paper
>NATO ones don't move
>NATO ones are only stated once
>NATO is capable of acting on theirs
Gay marriage is non-negotiable
I think Russia was going to blow the plant thinking they could blame Ukraine, but then Ukraine(probably with NATO intelligence) blew the lid saying that their was clear signs of explosives being placed on it, so now they are having to turn it into a defensive nest so that the can do rather than blow it. the intent to ruin Ukraine's economy for the future is clear as Putin is quickly approaching a situation where he needs to claim that Russia won so he can pull out
>they will definitely try to leave it damaged and force Ukraine to spend the next few years trying to repair the damage that was caused
Didn't they attempted something similar with the Nova Kakhovka dam but instead of leaving the dam reasonably-damaged-but-not-catastrophic, they ended up bursting the whole fricking thing? What are the chances their scorched earth tactic will go bonkers this time as well?
I think the Russian ruble is about to collapse by the way. Just saying.
Haven't people been saying this for a while now? Source etc.
>Haven't people been saying this for a while now? Source etc.
>say what you mean
I don't think they ill blow it because I think Ukrainian Intelligence is good and they think the risk has declined. I think the Ruble collapsing IS NOT related to the Wagner antics but sanctions and that its collapse it mathematically inevitable at this point. I expect to see Russia screaming about nuclear war as the ruble collapses because otherwise they have to tell the Russian public that the sanctions have killed Russia. The kremlin is fully circling the drain economically and militarily now. Diplomatically is already kill.
>Haven't people been saying this for a while now? Source etc.
My source is the chart for the rouble Vs the dollar for the last six months.
While I want to believe, and this sounds plausible, the phrase "russian financial collapse" has been repeated too often, and it's difficult to see evidence of it actually happening.
inb4 clarksonbrown.gif
> the phrase "russian financial collapse" has been repeated too often, and it's difficult to see evidence of it actually happening
petroleum revenue is down by half and ruble value is devalued to about 70% compared to prewar, expenses outstripped the yearly budget one quarter in and the economy is purely based on printing. i guess if you literally just don't want to see something it is pretty hard to find it
Ahem. This is not some maybe thing. Russia is done. You have to understand how small its economy is and how much trouble they are in. Putin had buffered the economy from shock for a year with savings for a rainy war. A years worth, He's been raiding companies like Gazprom with windfall taxes and cannibalising the Russian economy internally to stave off the inevitable but he has run out of options because oil and gas prices have stabilised, the EU has new suppliers and no one wants to do business with Russia as a supplier unless its heavily discounted one offs because Russia is fricking crazy and Russia just burnt the EU trying to use its gas supply as political leverage. No one wants a supplier like that on a long term basis. Even the Indians are only buying for floor rates but they are not going to make themselves subject to blackmail from Russia over the little oil that can be shipped to them from Russia. The Rouble is dying. Its going to plummet soon. Watch.
>Its going to plummet soon
We've been hearing that for a year and a half now. How soon is "soon"? Half a month? A fortnight?
Argentinian anon here, this exact shit we've seen from people who say russian economy is alright is the same shit that the people here said (and still do) when we were starting to get into our latest economic crisis
>I get paid in pesos/rubles, what do i care about the dollar!
>The exchange rate is the same or almost the same, things are alright! (ignoring that currency controls mean you can only realistically exchange your money at an awful rate, oh, and also can't buy foreign made shit with less than a 50% tax )
>what is inertia
>biggest country on earth falling has the exact same speed as a house of cards falling
Its like watching a bus with no brakes and no steering slowly rolling on a long, gentle slope toward a ravine.
Its slow and not very exciting, but if you dont stop it right away, it will (slowly) keep gaining speed, and here's the thing - you will not be able to actually notice the exact moment where its too late to do anything. And even then the bus will keep on rolling relatively slowly, and things won't seem much different at a glance - but people inside will already be beyond saving. And even then it still wont look exciting or spectacular for a while, right up until the point where it reaches the edge and flies over and only then theres noise and screams and explosion and body parts flying around.
2 more weeks and Russia will lose, I promise, zelensky will take back Crimea with a new offensive. We just need some more money and bradleys
Still trying to ape the meme, ziggie? Still under the delusion that it's not the Ukrainians who have all the advantages in a long war? LMAO.
Anon, going from
>Kiev in 2 days
>Warsaw in 3 days
>Berlin in a week
>Paris in two weeks
>London in a month
To
>Hahaha you've not taken Crimea yet!
Is not really the 'own' you think it is.
Projecting really is in the vatBlack person DNA. I've seen it countless times. Take thing that was said about them and repeat it back.
>day 497 of 2 week special needs operation
>take nuclear plant hostage and rig it to blow when time to abandoon
All I want is nuclear winter in Moscow and TZD. How many times can the world allow zigzogs to threaten everyone else?
>t. moderate
Russians will not give it up intact, the question is if they will just make it inoperable or destroy it completely
We haven't had a good old nuclear meltdown in a donkeys age, and Russia looks desperate enough to do such a thing to stem any possible advance from Ukraine.
>Russia looks desperate enough to do such a thing to stem any possible advance from
>I think the Russian ruble is about to collapse by the way.
>>I think the Russian ruble is about to collapse by the way.
https://www.ft.com/content/5742c586-e786-4466-b29e-5d96827f45ef
>paywall
can someone offer up that anti paywall website again
archive.ph?
12ft.io ?
Doesn't work for this article tho...
>not using esc key to by pass paywall the moment it is loading in
>FT Paywall
Take a look at this pimp. Post the text if you have it
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The rouble sank to its lowest level against the dollar since the aftermath of Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine on Thursday, as the repercussions of Wagner’s aborted insurrection heap further pressure on a currency already groaning under the weight of western sanctions.
The Russian currency has lost a third of its value since December, trading at more than 90Rbs per US dollar on Thursday.
Yevgeny Prigozhin’s failed mutiny accelerated the drop of the rouble, which fell by over six per cent in just two weeks. But the decline had started months prior, as western sanctions continue to squeeze the Russian economy.
“Last weekend’s political crisis prompted cash outflow from rouble to dollar and to foreign banks,” said Natalia Lavrova, chief economist at BCS Global Markets. She said that on the day of the mutiny, Russians withdrew some Rbs100bn, an amount of withdrawals comparable to when the Kremlin announced a mass mobilisation in September.
The Kremlin acknowledged the drop and blamed it on a “significant amount of speculation” while seeking to reassure the public that such fluctuations have happened before and that the currency rebounded.
The decline reflected changes in the balance of trade, with imports rebounding and exports falling, said Alexandra Prokopenko, a non-resident scholar at Carnegie Russia Eurasia centre. “The rouble’s share in those imports is rising, resulting in fewer dollars entering the country,” she said.
“The flow of money into Russia is drying up, and the outflow of capital is increasing. All this is a direct consequence of the sanctions,” Prokopenko said.
In the first quarter of 2023, Russia’s trade balance contracted by more than three times year-on-year, the Russian Central Bank data shows.
Revenues from Russia’s main exports, oil and gas, fell by a quarter year on year in June. Total energy revenues accumulated since the beginning of 2023 decreased by almost a half to Rbs3.38tn ($37.3bn), the Russian finance ministry said in an update on Wednesday.
This marks the lowest half-year result in the past five years, excluding the Covid-19 pandemic in 2020. It reflects both the impact of western sanctions and Russia’s inability to compensate for the loss of the European gas market.
Capital outflows have also increased since the February 2022 invasion of Ukraine, with Russians moving more than $40bn in deposits outside the country, according to the central bank.
>Capital outflows have also increased since the February 2022 invasion of Ukraine, with Russians moving more than $40bn in deposits outside the country, according to the central bank.
Its actually amazing to me that Russia hasn't put some sort of limit on moving assets out of the country yet. Probably because it would be taken as a massive sign of market weakness.
>Its actually amazing to me that Russia hasn't put some sort of limit on moving assets out of the country yet.
They did on people who fled last year, even seizing their property and selling it, now there is a special tax to get out of Russia (if you can)
Sanctions act more like a sleeper hold than anything else. It's kind of interesting that it took about a year before it really began to bleed the Russian economy. However even if the sanctions were lifted today I think the Russian economy is completely fricked.
All fair points anon but the fact is that Russia can't move dollars and is now Running a budget deficit and has already been raiding the swear jar and looking under the couch. Putins used up his emergency money and the wheels are coming off.
>the price at which the budget can get some relief is close to 140 per USD.
The rouble does not have a bottom. Anyone who holds it beyond the time it takes to convert it into a real currency is brain damaged. See this thread.
Putin can still just print money. Like I said, he might even be able to patch the budget if the ruble hits 140-200 per dollar, because then he'd get more rubles per barrel of oil.
>but standards of living will collapse! but imports will collapse!
Imports of everything technological have already collapsed outside of smuggling of spare parts and weapon components. Further devaluation of the currency will be very painful for the population, but the serfs will bear it.
>just reinstate a feudal system in the modern era
the whole reason they're in their current position is because they failed to transition out of serfdom as fast as the west, do you think reversing course is really a positive for anyone involved?
Id compare it to heavy metal poisons it takes time to build up and symptoms to show and keeps inflicting damage for a long time after due to very long biological half lives.
The creeping nature is what makes it dangrous becuase you dont relize how bad it is until much later.
Thx anon. Appreciated
hearing rumours that Russia is trying to pull another reactor from cold to hot shutdown
oh, and in case anyone asks about muh gas, prices are crashing because the European storage is filling up too fast atm
https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/europes-gas-storage-is-filling-too-fast-kemp-2023-07-06/
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>https://www.ft.com/content/5742c586-e786-4466-b29e-5d96827f45ef
lol, gay
That's not a collapse, that's the budget finally getting tight enough that the financial advisor finally got through Putin's thick monke skull and convinced him to let her stop propping the Ruble at such a ridiculous rate.
The real price of the Ruble is close to 200 per USD and the price at which the budget can get some relief is close to 140 per USD.
I expect them to try and freeze it at 100 or 120 this time.
That sounds completely made up
Nah, many thirdies have been doing that for a while. It's why Egypt's economy is crashing atm
Nope, that's how shit work. Import orriented economies want a strong currency so the imports are cheap. Export orriented one want the opposite for the econmic boost. Weaker Rouble means Monke can stretch the Dollars he's getting from selling oil and gas. Get the greenbacks, convert them into depreciated local currency and pay off your serfs on the cheap. Ofcourse the plebs are getting fricked by inflation, but who give a frick about them, especially in Russia.
say what you mean
>resivo-
What word could this possibly have been
Reservoir. As in the cooling water reservoir for the reactor[s] still getting cooled.
The single avenue Russians have to reach the Western domestic audiences is amplifying fears of a nuclear disaster, every single time tactical or nuclear weapons are mentioned by the Russians or they try to stir shit up to keep ZNPP in the news it is an attempt to erode popular support for arming Ukraine in the West.
Russia wants Westerners to think they are unpredictable and more comfortable with using nuclear weapons/disasters than they are, they no longer have the economic or diplomatic resources to discourage Western states from committing to Ukraine and so they are using the democratic nature of Western states to try to change policy from the bottom up.
The nuke-threats last summer got shut down when Putin was informed we are tracking every inch of his movements, both in buildings AND in bunkers underground.
"If you try a nuke, we won't nuke Moscow. We will nuke YOU, just you."
The war is going to shit if he and his staff are bringing it up again.
Let's not forget that China and India also warned Putin against use of WMDs.
And while the Indians were obviously lying, Xi actually might have been sincere - China needs the global market to remain in place for now, and for nukes to remain taboo for as long as possible.
Nuking the president, that is in moscow is literally no different to nuking moscow wtf?
You also think that won't start full scale ww3?
It absolutely would.
Biden is a piece of shit, but if the whitehouse got nuked, you can bet your ass that every single nuke would be deployed instantly in retaliation.
Why would the US nuke them first? It's Putin that's doing all the threatening. All they did was just remind him that he will be the first causality in their retaliation if he nukes first
>Why would the US nuke them first?
>It would be so funny
It would be fricking hilarious if NATO nuked Russia
Are you genuinely incapable of differentiating posts from each other, or just pretending to be THAT moronic?
I try to read the IAEA press releases, they say from the parts they have access to there are no signs of explosives etc, but they need access to parts of reactor units 3 and 4, 4 is the one Ukraine seems to be pointing to with things on the roof etc so still some mystery over things.
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/update-172-iaea-director-general-statement-on-situation-in-ukraine
If you're a Russian soldier, how do you just quietly go about your day following orders to install and man machine gun nests on a fricking nuclear power plant?
Does the question of "what the frick are we doing" not cross their mind? I think even the muttiest of the mutt moronic USMC marine would eventually ask that question if they were in the same situation.
nuclear disaster is a favorite soviet/post soviet passtime. what they feel is nostalgia and a deepseated desire to feel the warmth of an artificial sun which makes itself known in cryptic whispers just beyond comprehension.
your first problem is assuming that these mobiks from eastern siberia that have never seen a toilet in their entire life would know what the frick a nuclear power plant even is
remember when they dug up trenches in the red forest? The soldiers that did it didn't even fricking knew what happened at Chernobyl
>remember when they dug up trenches in the red forest?
I am still in shock from that, it’s something that happened less than a century ago, PEOPLE ARE STILL ALIVE WHO WITNESSED IT, how did they memory hole it so completely?
You underestimate just how remote regions of Siberia are. We're talking a village with 1 train a week contact with the outside world and like 5 commie blocks that are half abandoned.
>We're talking a village with 1 train a week contact with the outside world and like 5 commie blocks that are half abandoned.
you mentioned an interesting recurring problem in post-soviet countries (that didn't get their shit together) here: abandoned towns. Russia really has to be the most depressing of them all, there's no shortage of completely and partially abandoned towns there, it looks like some shit out of a post apocalyptic eork of fiction but completely real.
That's true everywhere though, urbanization is a b***h.
You have to remember that these are the kinds of morons who get anthraxed by a maintenance accident at a secret biological weapons lab next door, the government admits that it was a secret illegal biological weapons lab, and then the locals promptly ignore that admission and pretend that nothing happened and there isn't a still-operating illegal biological weapons lab next door.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sverdlovsk_anthrax_leak
Because Russians are actually subhuman. There's some part of them that's missing or broken and they don't have the desire for the truth that propels the rest of humanity forward.
Your job is to dig, not think.
why is uh... why is the video all fuzzy and discolored??
Just have some vodka, you'll be fine
>why is uh... why is the video all fuzzy and discolored??
I wouldn't worry about it. Have you been taking your iodine pills?
Well, that and the VP8 codec has been known to do that when compressing video as hard as it possibly can.
This entire war would be considered complete shlock if it was a book or movie, completely unbelievable
They're not informed. To them, it's just a building. If it gets damaged/destroyed, oh well.
>what the frick are we doing
Those that voice those concerns get punitive rape
To them, it is an important position and is easy to defend. That's it. The fact Ukraine seems to want it makes it even more important. The exact nature of the building doesn't matter.
They really are not not like normal people.
They are something a bit less than people, you might say.
Like, below people.
I don't know why,l but I somehow feel like we should have known all along.
But what do they even think they'll accomplish by blowing up the ZNPP? Hasn't it been made obvious to them by now that the West isn't backing down from supporting Ukraine? Do they not realize that it will only result in their country being absolutely decimated in every way possible?
I just don't understand how the puccian mind works.
accomplish?
same thing they get by bombing and shelling ukrainian cities every day
it's irrational cruelty
It's not irrational, to them it makes perfect sense: If I can't have it, you can't have it, either.
attacking civilian targets is part of a willful campaign to make Ukraine a failed state if they can't conquer and absorb it, I think it was Peskov who mentioned Russia will not tolerate a Western aligned functional Ukrainian state on their borders and if they can't remove the Western aligned or state portion of the equation (which on some level they seem to understand they can't) then they will ruin the country's economy, create a refugee crisis, destroy as much infrastructureas possible, and pull shit like destroying the Kakhovka dam to ruin Ukrainian agriculture for years to come so that Ukraine will not be able to function without foreign support
it is cruel but there is a rationale to it, even if it grossly underestimates how willing Western countries would be to rebuild Ukraine (humanitarian aid is wildly popular and most of Europe has been trying to lean in that direction vs sending arms from the beginning) and how much PR damage this will do to Russia in the global south once grain exports collapse and the global south starts to go hungry. Russia, much like China and the West, underestimate the global south's agency and try to browbeat them into signing onto their ideological missions despite the global south just being out for themselves and fairly clear eyed about things even if they are dysfunctional autocratic basketcases
Why should the world be allowed to exist if Russia cannot rule it?
I love the way Russia thinks is still a superpower. Its so cute. Nuke Russia please. It would be so funny
>Nuke Russia please. It would be so funny
No please, the only fallout I like is the game. And I'd rather see modern NATO aviation dogpile everything in the Pidoran Federation that looks remotely military.
Why should the world be allowed to exist if Zimbabwe cannot rule it?
>But what do they even think they'll accomplish by blowing up the ZNPP?
They won't they will let off some smoke bombs and fireworks on the roof when they need a distraction if they start routing or the ruble tanks hard or to force the Ukrainians to have to factor in the possibility of a radiological event.
They will accomplish evil because they are evil and bad and dumb.
trust me I have been lurking many of these threads.
Watch this video and you'll understand the Russian mindset.
Maybe your news is lying to you. The ukrops love to do terrorism when one of their uber plans fails.
>castrate Ukrainian POWs
>literally rob young men of their future as males, leaving only revenge for them
>"why oh why do poor russian veterans keep getting murdered, who could've foreseen that, hohols are genetically predisposed for terrorism I tell you!"
Making everyone else suffer. Scorched earth and suffering are 90% of Russian tactics.
I hope pic related clears things up for you.
>I just don't understand how the puccian mind works.
Pretty sure that' s a Gogol quote
Just go around it.
I can't tell you how I know this, so believe me or not, I don't care. Russia isn't planning to blow it. They have, however, planted explosives designed to make it look like Ukraine has shelled the plant - with the goal to then blame Russia saying Russia blew it but it was in fact Ukraine who shelled it. In this case, they haven't, but Russia will make it look like they have so they can blame Ukraine for anything that goes wrong and to show how weak they are trying to get NATO involved yadda yadda.
Whether they will actually do it or not remains to be seen. Again, believe me or don't, doesn't matter.
Yeah, that's gonna go by the worst possible scenario
Like when they planted a rocket but it was pointing the wrong direction?
>Bryukhanov
Uzbek
>Anatoly Dyatlov
Russian
>Aleksandr Akimov
Russian
>Leonid Toptunov
Ukrainian from Sumy, but he had been there two months
Oh so now Ukrainians are Russians?
>Oh so now Ukrainians are Russians?
have a (you)
>Ukrainians can't be trusted with nuclear technology, remember Chernobyl?
>Ukrainians
Lets see:
Deputy chief engineer who fricked up:
>Dyatlov was born in 1931 in Krasnoyarsk Krai, Russian SFSR,
Plant director:
>Bryukhanov was born on 1 December 1935 in the city of Tashkent, Uzbekistan
Only "ukrainian" from the trio who fricked up was Nikolai Fomin. Born guess where...? In fricking Donetsk Oblast, and being a literal self identified russian
There is no problem. Rouble is fine.
Somebody needs to put the sockpuppet eyes and mouth on this thing
top jej
oh no no no
Assad: oh no, I am winning, roll the cameras we are gassing kids
Putin: oh no, Ukraine’s counteroffensive failed. We have to cause a nuclear catastrophe now to get more help for Ukraine
The message that Russia is behind any potential disaster at ZNPP is unquestioned in its paramount legitimacy
The Russians are simply trying to create their own super soldiers to counter NATO's bio-engineered mulatto commandos by throwing their troops into the reactor and seeing what comes out.
The last digit of any reply will be the type of mutant you get turned into after being thrown into the reactor core.
1. Snork
2. Bloodsucker
3. Controller
4. Ghoul (feral)
5. The Melting Man from Robocop
6. Ghoul (non-feral)
7. The Biomass chilling in the Kremlin in Metro
8. The Incredible Hulk
9. Zek from Singularity
0. Great Clean One
should have dubs as gaining the power to control The Cube
I AM the reactor.
Not. Yet.
https://network.bellona.org/content/uploads/sites/3/2023/06/The-Radiation-Risks-of-Seizing-the-Zaporizhzhia-Nuclear-Power-Plant.pdf
If the Russians were intent on seriously irradiating the land they're trying to conquer then they'd have to essentially restart all the reactors (very expensive and time-consuming process) and then starve them of power to the coolant systems in order to generate a Fukushima-level disaster.
If they blew up the reactors as-is the radioactive contamination would be mostly local and insignificant, thanks largely to the VVER type NPP being vastly superior to the RBMK in terms of safety. However the blown reactor would then not be able to be used by the Ukrainians for many years afterwards.
Like the Dam, the Russians know they will eventually lose and are employing a spiteful strategy of scorched earth.
The reactors have been restarted. The power plant is generating electricity as we speak. And the coolant is already gone, the destruction of the dam saw to that. All that's left is an emergency reserve.
Please do more reading so that you understand what you're talking about before you begin posting.
>At the Zaporizhzhia NPP, power was restored with the main 750 kV power line. Now the station is powered by two lines: the main 750 kV and the backup 330 kV
>cooling pond at Zaporizhzhia plant at risk after dam collapse
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/08/ukraine-cooling-pond-at-zaporizhzhia-plant-at-risk-after-dam-collapse-report
Do you deny such things?
That source doesn’t say anything about the reactors being restarted. It just talks about risks to the cooling pond and potential mitigations.
Still trying to peddle the NS2 lie pidor? Russian ships were in the area, Russia was about to default on the contract and they've done this before.
Ahh, accusing your opponent of everything you are doing. Truly a classic among vatBlack person lies.
I feel like that's a really fricking stupid idea, so it's at the very least plausible.
Shit I meant you the tripps confused me
What a convoluted way to justify a ukrainian missile strike against the ZNPP. There's nothing on the satellite photos that would even resemble explosives on that roof.
>in practice they probably expect it to be lost eventually
In practice, the ukraine can't even take a village of Pyatikhatki a month into le Big CounterOffensive, let alone reach the first line of Russian defenses, let alone hope to capture ZNPP. Calm your breasts, hoholsisters
>was never going to blow the plant
>ukranian glowies start fearmongering about russia blowing the plant to try and get direct NATO intervention
>other glowies say this is bullshit
>idea.png
>untouchable ammo depot
>untouchable defences
This is going to be a medieval siege.
>ukranian glowies
Meds
They've been fearmongering this shit for weeks but the russians unironically were just using it as an ammo depot.
>as an ammo depot.
and with the amount of ciggie accidents this is a good idea?
We both know that's just a meme and what really happened. That's why it's an ammo depot in an "untouchable" location.
Meds
Meds
Still don't get why people are obsessed with the illegal dumping of animal byproduct to the point of copeposting it days later. But also refer to
Shill confirmed
Everyone would have forgotten about it long ago if the streetshitters didn't shill it as Ukrainian corpses and then frantically backpedal when it was geolocated to Belgorod.
They turned the cube from a funny oopsie into a full fledged meme.
Get in the cube
Lol this "russia has planted bombs on roof" has already been debunked in europe in every major newspaper.
https://www.rtbf.be/article/evacuations-et-bombes-sur-le-toit-des-reacteurs-de-la-centrale-de-zaporijia-faut-il-vraiment-avoir-peur-11224128
Pictures of those "bombs" are fake.
Hohol Black folk are realy bad at everything : lose their counter offensiv, can't do propaganda, ... kek
>debunked in europe in every major newspaper.
>fails to substantiate claim
how quaint
>rtbf
>russia today boyfriend
You can't make this shit up.
please just give us the date and time of the boom boom and we'll give you thousands in gift cards to R E D E E M
I'm going to get honest
The winds over that nuclear power plant would drop the fall out over Moscow and over northern India.
It's why there isn't alot of concern in America. It's more like "Putin might kill half of Russia and poison sections of Eurasia and half of India if he does this. Huh. Okay. Let's see" I can dig up the global wind current Maps but you can Google them.
>”FSB uncovered plot to sit back and watch Russia destroy self”
I'm surprised it's taken this long for any war horrors to happen.
I don't know what the west's game plan is for ending this war but does anyone really think that a losing Russia isn't going to do something evil?
There are still so many lines to cross. Biological, chemical, nuclear. Any or all of these are on the table until this war ends one way or another.
All of these are red lines that result in direct intervention. So they're only on the table if Putin wants to flip the table.
>All of these are red lines that result in direct intervention
And?
If you're about to lose what does it matter?
The only thing that can stop someone from using every tool at their disposal to win is morality.
I am extremely worried if our entire game plan is to assume Russia will give up without flipping the table.
Losing =/= Complete Annihilation
And direct intervention does?
Losing means losing. The chance of direct intervention can be perceived as anything form certain, to impossible.
If Putin thinks the chance of intervention is less than 100%, then when the chance of losing becomes 100%, a very terrible risk analysis will take place.
I seriously do not understand how people are not concerned about this. Winning this war is do or litterally die for Putin, so it all comes down to his conscience, or the consciences of the people who have to actually carry out the orders.
>Winning this war is do or litterally die for Putin, so it all comes down to his conscience, or the consciences of the people who have to actually carry out the orders.
what you believe is an unchained rabid dog to the world has 10 red dots on its skull
Man you're an idiot.
I too project my insecurities on PrepHole
No it's just you
I am unconcerned because there are no alternate paths. Russia getting any sort of a win is an outcome that only makes the future more dangerous. Allowing some sort of compromise to avoid the table flip scenario just kicks the can down the road and bets that nothing similar will happen later. The only route forward is the one that results in balkanization and the isolation of the muscovite.
He's some homosexual in a shithole not the Emperor of Mankind. It might be do or die for him but not for everyone around him. They are all cowards at heart, when push comes to shove it will be so literally for Monke.
Nuclear power plants do not "blow up"
Ukrainian ones do.
>Anatoly Stepanovich Dyatlov
>born 3 March 1931
>Sukhobuzimsky District, Krasnoyarsk Krai, Russian SFSR
hmmm
>haha I'll just post cope and hope nobody calls me out
All you room temperature IQ nafo troons are really wrecking this board. Fricking sub humans
All you room temperature IQ zigger orcs are really wrecking this board. Fricking sub humans