zelensky to create drone warfare force. thoughts?

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-zelenskiy-orders-creation-separate-military-force-drones-2024-02-06/
actually doing this is largely stupid. most types of drones are used in conjunction with ground forces and splitting them off will reduce their ability to communicate effectively. iirc the red army in ww2 had similar problems stemming from the way that it structured fighter and bomber units
I guess that something like a tb2 would be an exception, but we know that this isn't what we have in mind
OTOH Ukraine needs to maintain the "technologically superior / cleverer army massacring the enemy with drones" angle. regardless of whether it's true, it makes for great propaganda. zelensky making this announcement helps to keep that up.

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  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >the red army in ww2
    >this is somehow comparable to the communications and logistics between branches in the year 2024
    Yeah OP great thread. It's definitely a problem that zero militaries have solved before. That's why when US soldiers call in an airstrike, it takes three full hours before the plane launches and then it hits the wrong grid. There is just simply no way to facilitate fast communications between different branches.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      US has not solved this and there are lots of GWOT horror stories.
      The time required to clear the 40km flight path of a himars rocket or the 20km trajectory of a 155 shell with multiple air assets in the sky at any given time caused 30 minute delays because US Army and US Air Force had no good way to talk to each other in Afghanistan.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >GWOT
        That's your problem right there
        They were operating under extremely restrictive hearts and minds friendly COIN rules
        The actual communication time took no more than 10 minutes, the rest of the time was taken up by checking and double checking and triple checking that local civvies were out of the way before shooting
        In a near peer war that wouldn't be the case

        https://i.imgur.com/sDmn2Rt.jpg

        https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraines-zelenskiy-orders-creation-separate-military-force-drones-2024-02-06/
        actually doing this is largely stupid. most types of drones are used in conjunction with ground forces and splitting them off will reduce their ability to communicate effectively. iirc the red army in ww2 had similar problems stemming from the way that it structured fighter and bomber units
        I guess that something like a tb2 would be an exception, but we know that this isn't what we have in mind
        OTOH Ukraine needs to maintain the "technologically superior / cleverer army massacring the enemy with drones" angle. regardless of whether it's true, it makes for great propaganda. zelensky making this announcement helps to keep that up.

        It's exactly what happened to every Air Force in the world in the first half of the 20th century

        The advantage of centralising the drone force in this way is rationalising and streamlining doctrine, training and production, which is absolutely the right way to go if the AFU intend to continue deploying drones at scale

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      when did the US Army give up operating attack helicopters and drones?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      radio isn't going to magically make several independent officers from different branches agree on something. replacing a tree-shaped command structure with a spaghetti-shaped one isn't a good idea

      It's making a dedicated force centered around autonomous and remote weapons. You're posing it like Zelensky is mandating that drones are to be removed from the other brances and put only in the drone branch. Nothing in the article suggests that, and I think you're misreading it.

      The line troops still keep their drones, and new units will be made up that are exclusively focused on drones, pretty simple.

      what purpose would a dedicated drone branch even have?
      >scouting out positions for troops
      keep them in the army, they'll be more effective
      >some kind of tb2 thing
      ukraine doesn't have enough of these to make them their own force
      >attacking targets on the frontline
      again, you want coordination with infantry if you want this to be effective. unless you're just picking off wounded russians, in which case you can fly around freely i guess. however, this is largely a waste of resources (they're already casualties, who cares) so it still qualifies as ineffective

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Behind-lines drone attacks of airbases, fuel refineries, munitions factories etc.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Drone Force specialists embedded with infantry units, like Navy corpsmen running with marines. Problem?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >drag drone operators out into their own unit, then put them back
          genius! This is the thinking Ukraine needs to turn the tide of the war by 360 degrees

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            Okay.

            [...]

            >a department just for their development or a school for specialist training makes sense.
            But attached personnel from other branches, too far apparently.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            >Ukraine winning
            >turn 360
            >still winning

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what purpose would a dedicated drone branch even have?
        TZD

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/YKnCgVW.jpg

          Drone Force specialists embedded with infantry units, like Navy corpsmen running with marines. Problem?

          Behind-lines drone attacks of airbases, fuel refineries, munitions factories etc.

          An entire branch dedicated to getting the most out of drones; innovation, coordination, countermeasures. Sounds like something five eyes suggested and wants to see tested out.

          war tourists should get the rope

          radio isn't going to magically make several independent officers from different branches agree on something. replacing a tree-shaped command structure with a spaghetti-shaped one isn't a good idea
          [...]
          what purpose would a dedicated drone branch even have?
          >scouting out positions for troops
          keep them in the army, they'll be more effective
          >some kind of tb2 thing
          ukraine doesn't have enough of these to make them their own force
          >attacking targets on the frontline
          again, you want coordination with infantry if you want this to be effective. unless you're just picking off wounded russians, in which case you can fly around freely i guess. however, this is largely a waste of resources (they're already casualties, who cares) so it still qualifies as ineffective

          this guy gets it

          there's a reason why the US prefers organic fires compared the Chinese "fires have their own branch and so does logistics" model

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what purpose would a dedicated drone branch even have?
        Logistic - you need to certificate and request a purchase of drones, antennas, glasses, etc.
        Personal - you need to train personnel, and make official positions for them (now you can be FPV-pilot, but in the army, you are still in a position of infantryman).
        Standardization of ammunition - almost for now every FPV-pilot needs to be a sapper and make their own explosives.
        Doubting this it's like "why do you need a separated artillery brigade when you can have an artillery company within an infantry brigade"

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          The sanest post ITT that explains what could cover current problems

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >what purpose would a dedicated drone branch even have?
        Long range attacks into Russian territory. It’s a cheapo equivalent to the Russian strategic bomber branch which operated independently from the Air Force and air defense.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      US has not solved this and there are lots of GWOT horror stories.
      The time required to clear the 40km flight path of a himars rocket or the 20km trajectory of a 155 shell with multiple air assets in the sky at any given time caused 30 minute delays because US Army and US Air Force had no good way to talk to each other in Afghanistan.

      This is why the US will never fight a real enemy, their entire airforce is worthless because it is simply incapable of supporting ground operations. All they can do is randomly bomb cities like in Yemen.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Drones just means guys in air conditioned rooms in Germany will pick up the slack. Which means they won't need "ukraine" to keep the war going.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >t. ard

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >Drones just means guys in air conditioned rooms in Germany will pick up the slack. Which means they won't need "ukraine" to keep the war going.
      Good.

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It's making a dedicated force centered around autonomous and remote weapons. You're posing it like Zelensky is mandating that drones are to be removed from the other brances and put only in the drone branch. Nothing in the article suggests that, and I think you're misreading it.

    The line troops still keep their drones, and new units will be made up that are exclusively focused on drones, pretty simple.

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    An entire branch dedicated to getting the most out of drones; innovation, coordination, countermeasures. Sounds like something five eyes suggested and wants to see tested out.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      A branch to surpass Chair Force

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It shouldn't be a separate force but integrated into every force. Drones can be used as the lowest levels from air force guards watching a fence to a section of infantry so making it a separate force just creates longer kill chains.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      best post ITT

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        too obvious moron

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Damn bro. You better write him a letter with this vital information.
    I'm 100% certain nobody but you thought of this and that your mum will say she's proud of you for the first time in 35 years and give you allowance buy that weeb sex pillow you wanted.

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    The PLA also wanted to create a drone force, but found the name to be redundant.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Anon is really obsessed with the chinks, I wonder why?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Anon is too easily offended by an obvious joke, I wonder why?

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just keep FPV drones etc within the army and let the air force handle the big drones? Ukraine already showed during the summer offensive that they have trouble with units effectively communicating with each other on a battalion level during the summer offensive and had to return to smaller scale assaults. Unless they fixed those issues increasing overhead seems like a bad idea.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yep

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why the frick is he making ANY decisions

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      What's wrong with that?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      to kill more russians

      Why not just keep FPV drones etc within the army and let the air force handle the big drones? Ukraine already showed during the summer offensive that they have trouble with units effectively communicating with each other on a battalion level during the summer offensive and had to return to smaller scale assaults. Unless they fixed those issues increasing overhead seems like a bad idea.

      yep

      moron

      >check Ukrainian drone operators reaction
      >They celebrate this decision because it means drones will have one qualified structure to train, supply and develop drones
      >check /k/
      >neverserved and neverfought explain how it's actually very bad because something ww2

      concern trolls

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >check Ukrainian drone operators reaction
    >They celebrate this decision because it means drones will have one qualified structure to train, supply and develop drones
    >check /k/
    >neverserved and neverfought explain how it's actually very bad because something ww2

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I don't give a frick what Slavs think tbqh

      to kill more russians
      [...]
      [...]
      moron
      [...]
      concern trolls

      what are you, some Reddit cheerleader? just desperately seething that someone might think Ukraine isn't perfect?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        It always accuses others of what it does itself.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >slavs
        >reddit
        >ukraine bad
        bingo

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        seethe moronic pig

        ITT: anons try to find any reason to say that having seperate funding and logistics for drones overlooked by younger, more idealistic men as opposed to your average oligarch is a bad idea for Ukraine.

        >itt concern trolls

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >I don't give a frick what Slavs think
        The funny part is that unlike (you), they are capable of thought.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Why do you need a separate branch for a drone school?

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        you dont. you also don't need a separate branch to have focused drone procurement programs. actually, at this point, I'm starting to think the branch thing is a mistranslation

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >you also don't need a separate branch to have focused drone procurement programs
          Who makes decisions what drones to develop, how to train operators, how knowledge shares , how drone operators can climb a rank?

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            you know you could just have division and brigade level drone elements right? on top of platoon ones? You could pose this same moronic question about artillery and missiles. go jerk off the PLA

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              seethe

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                kek you don't even know what the reference to the PLA means. you don't know what organic support is or what a division level asset is. do you even know what a brigade is? or can you only post like a /misc/tard with shitty little non-sequitors?

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                seethe

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              Cool, USA should dissolve Field Artillery Branch

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                is this a language barrier thing? the Field Artillery Branch is a part of the US Army, it's not a separate branch of the armed forces. it's part of the Army. It's not a separate branch of the armed forces

                if this is all a language issue and what Ukraine is proposing is the formation of a Drone Branch within their Army, and not a drone force on the level of the air force/army/navy branches then I have no issue with it and I'll piss myself laughing that this misunderstanding occurred. but they seem to point to the latter

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                they did you stupid fricking moron, about a century ago

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You could pose this same moronic question about artillery
              Which did indeed have their own branch and some of the biggest steps forward in artillery was when people started putting them all together and standardising

              Now toddle back to your Cawofdoody campaign that's all your peanut brain is good for

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              >You could pose this same moronic question about artillery and missiles.
              here moronic concern troll
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Field_Artillery_Branch_(United_States)
              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Defense_Artillery_Branch

              • 2 weeks ago
                Anonymous

                >You could pose this same moronic question about artillery
                Which did indeed have their own branch and some of the biggest steps forward in artillery was when people started putting them all together and standardising

                Now toddle back to your Cawofdoody campaign that's all your peanut brain is good for

                Cool, USA should dissolve Field Artillery Branch

                okay so this is indeed a language barrier thing. that's hilarious. you guys are really funny. I wish it was America hours right now so more people could see what you just posted

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Stovepiping, idiot
        Otherwise drone operators from Army, Air Force and Navy and all their sub-branches will develop their own ways of drone use, reinventing the wheel and not being updated on best practices someone else discovered

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Based. Neverserve threads get the virtual rope.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        The real neverserved are people who wasted their life in the military. Provided nearly no value to American life and now feel entitled to peoples respect. Hilarious. If you want to serve, join law enforcement. LEO chads make the bootvirgin seethe. Seethe moronic pigs

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Law enforcement sucks. You deal with the worse of society every day and nobody likes you. Being in the army is way better because you get to go on fun training exercises all the time and everyone loves you.

          • 2 weeks ago
            Anonymous

            NTA but I was marine and am now currently a LEO and have been shown much more respect in as the former. Got spit on in uniform twice when I was a marine tho

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              That's a part of being a marine. You gotta embrace the suck. Folks who want the easy life join the navy.

            • 2 weeks ago
              Anonymous

              I meant latter. Wow I actually am a dumb jarhead. They were right about me 🙁

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Is that deer gonna be ok?

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Nobody fricking likes you, pig.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    ITT: anons try to find any reason to say that having seperate funding and logistics for drones overlooked by younger, more idealistic men as opposed to your average oligarch is a bad idea for Ukraine.

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    threads are always shit when the Americans are asleep and you have to put up with the various flavours of subhuman pretending they know anything about warfighting
    god sometimes I regret being overseas

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Zelensky actually makes a good decision
    >immediately flooded with concern trolls

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      seethe

      >62 seconds
      >unchanged poster count

      seethe moronic pig
      [...]
      >itt concern trolls

      to kill more russians
      [...]
      [...]
      moron
      [...]
      concern trolls

      >concern trolls

      actually embarrassing bro

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        seethe moronic pig

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    [...]
    [...]
    okay so this is indeed a language barrier thing. that's hilarious. you guys are really funny. I wish it was America hours right now so more people could see what you just posted

    seethe moron

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    the ziggers must be scared

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Just because there's a separate force for drones doesn't mean that other forces will stop using drones themselves. The drone force will most likely have totally different tasks than other organizations.

    I didn't read the article though. Maybe it's saying the exact opposite to my heuristic thinking

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      its not actually clear what they're doing. the headline is misleading a little. Zelensky has ordered the government to figure out how to create a drone force and what that would require and look like, and he expects that report to be completed asap and then acted upon. in other words - no one knows what they will do exactly because they're still figuring it out.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    You can no longer discuss weapons on this God forsaken board without some discord troon schizoing out over how his third world sithole war sports team is winning.
    Grim.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yeah it's pretty grim, the Gaza threads are worse because you have smug Zionist liars on one hand and seething mudslime morons who are equally as dishonest on the other. that äää is based though, probably the best source of real info about Ukraine rn, him and the ___ vehicle in Ukraine guy. and even besides them half the threads about western gear and warriortard/armatard schizozones

      but it's still better than pre-war when 80% of threads were about how Russia and China had the best militaries in the world forreal you guys! /k/ hasn't been good since 2014

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >äää
        Who?

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    seethe moron

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It is better not to have too many different command chains trying to exist together in the same work space. There needs to be a central coordinator. The further away the drone decisions are from the troop decisions, the more problems it will cause.

    There probably is an ideal amount of split for subordinates to have, to keep them all answering to the central authority. However, in this case, the infantry should be in charge of the drones, at least on the front lines.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >concern troll

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cute how the morons are trying to discredit it because it's from Zelensky.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    CЛABA POCCИИ!!!

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      yes zisters, slave bbc poc cnn

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does this make shills so scared?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because it means more drones, better trained operators and very nasty drone developments being used on whole front not in specific places

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >but it's still better than pre-war
        no it's not. before the war you could have a debate and j[redacted] wouldn't enforce the rules in a way that heavily favored one side

        >very nasty drone developments
        like what? the last meaningful innovation on the ukrainian side was rpg-7 fpv drones. other than that, all they change is the phonk music they use in the compilations

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          >the last meaningful innovation on the ukrainian side was rpg-7 fpv drones
          I don't understand why people do this, you clearly have only surface knowledge about drone situation but pretend that you know what the frick you're talking about
          Reusable FPV drones
          Single motor fpv drones
          EFP warhead fpv drones
          Thermite package for destroying disabled vehicles and mining, drone mining in Kherson is crazy

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      More smooking accidents for Moscovia.

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What is a "branch" in the Ukrainian military? Is it a major service like US Army, AF, Navy etc. Or is it more soviet where e.g. Strategic rocket forces, air defence forces and VDV are separate branches?
    To me it seems like long tange strike drones would be an AF thing and quadcopters could be an army school, but I'm sure they have their reasons

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      in the article they refer to it as a new domain and directly compare it to the air/sea/land domains. idk

      https://i.imgur.com/xzKiGE2.gif

      It really should not matter, if it is only the command, training and R&D structure. If the drone warfare force is still in the Army, then it is little more than an arm in the branch. It might not be any different than having an artillery corps or engineering corps. It is just talk and studies now, so who cares.
      Ukraine already has drone units using FPV drones on the ground.
      The US Military works with different branches and different allies' militaries. The only thing that really matters is who is in command of an area and what capabilities are within the command. Having US Army transportation battalion augmenting USMC MEF with USAF or USN support aircraft and USN Seabee engineering unit with US Space Force unit with civilian contractors cooking unit with a British marching band all supplied by US Transportation Command with US Special Forces Command's secret Grey Aliens' Space Marines really does not matter, as long as all of the morons know what they are supposed to do.

      just because the US makes interoperability look easy doesn't mean it is

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >just because the US makes interoperability look easy doesn't mean it is
        It is easy, if everyone communicates and knows the chain of command.
        If communication is shit, then everything else will follow. An aircraft squadron from the USMC vs USAF vs USN vs pick you favorite military's air force have different capabilities; however, any one or all of those can work together just the same as multiple squadrons from the same military branch, as long as within a unified command and all of those communicate.
        Similarly, if the US Army has 2 brigades of a division somewhere, which do not communicate well... then bad shit can happen.
        BTW, the US Army is incomprehensibly moronic for everyone on the outside looking in. It has brigades and regiments and sometimes the regiment will have two battalions, but those battalions are in different brigades and it is all so moronic compared to the USMC's simple and effective structures. Somehow the morons in the US Army know what they are doing within their independent brigade structures that can also operate within divisions and corps augmented with US Army Reserves and US Army National Guard.
        One time my dad tried to explain the difference between the US Army and Regular Army to me. It all seemed very stupid. Then add in the Reserve Army, IRR, National Guard, Corps of engineers, artillery corps, etc. At the end of it, I asked my dad why the Army was so stupid. He could not give me an answer, which I found satisfactory.
        BTW, a Brigade structure with 3 battalions from 3 Regiments really fricks with my mind, and the USA Army should not do that sill shit.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      I'd assume it meant to be like "signal troops branch" or "artillery branch".
      Not really it's own organization the way US Army and US Marines are basically entirely independent.
      This will be just specialists that will get assigned all over the place that are technically not infantry/artillerymen/airmen/etc.
      I'm pretty sure there are guys who are using drone all day while being listed as "assistant machinegunner" or something in the official unit organization right now.

      At least that's how I would do it as a armchair field marshal.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        That sounds smart to me, drone units get trained in drone branch/school and then get subordinated to infantry commands, much like medics, engineers, cbrn and so forth

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    It really should not matter, if it is only the command, training and R&D structure. If the drone warfare force is still in the Army, then it is little more than an arm in the branch. It might not be any different than having an artillery corps or engineering corps. It is just talk and studies now, so who cares.
    Ukraine already has drone units using FPV drones on the ground.
    The US Military works with different branches and different allies' militaries. The only thing that really matters is who is in command of an area and what capabilities are within the command. Having US Army transportation battalion augmenting USMC MEF with USAF or USN support aircraft and USN Seabee engineering unit with US Space Force unit with civilian contractors cooking unit with a British marching band all supplied by US Transportation Command with US Special Forces Command's secret Grey Aliens' Space Marines really does not matter, as long as all of the morons know what they are supposed to do.

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Oh no, a new branch? They're gonna make the same mistake as interwar militaries with their tank forces, bros!!!

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Drone military? Heh, I bet they could get a few pointers from a little something called the public school system.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Heh

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >zelensky making this announcement helps to keep that up.
    No it doesn't when Russia is clearly winning the drone arms race against ukraine in both quantity and quality.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >when Russia is clearly winning the drone arms race against ukraine in both quantity and quality.

      What is your evidence that this is the case?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It’s more about the impression rather than what the truth actually is. If westerners THINK Ukraine is doing well, they’re more inclined to provide aid. Whether Ukraine is actually doing well isn’t as relevant

      >what purpose would a dedicated drone branch even have?
      Logistic - you need to certificate and request a purchase of drones, antennas, glasses, etc.
      Personal - you need to train personnel, and make official positions for them (now you can be FPV-pilot, but in the army, you are still in a position of infantryman).
      Standardization of ammunition - almost for now every FPV-pilot needs to be a sapper and make their own explosives.
      Doubting this it's like "why do you need a separated artillery brigade when you can have an artillery company within an infantry brigade"

      Yeah that’s why every type of weapon has its own branch

  28. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Drone Warfare detachments makes more sense.

  29. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Honestly, if you were following stuff closely you'd be pretty sure at this point that Zelensky is on a roll when it comes to major frick ups, but just like his "fans" he has dug himself too deep to self reflect on his actions so the sham continues.

  30. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Honestly, if you were following stuff closely you'd be pretty sure at this point that Zelensky is on a roll when it comes to major frick ups, but just like his "fans" he has dug himself too deep to self reflect on his actions so the sham continues.

  31. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    This is good it encourages Ukrainians most scared of the war to join a branch that trains them specifically to attack the enemy from several miles away.

    If a lot of the unmanned drones become autonomous using AI then those can free up soldiers and become essentially extra soldiers on the battlefield without needing to recruit anyone

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