yes industrial chemicals which are known carcinogens are in basically everything, but every boomer homosexual makes the same joke every time: >durr only in califernia XD
as if there's something wrong with pointing out that literally everything around us is giving us cancer, down to the food we eat.
>as if there's something wrong with pointing out that literally everything around us is giving us cancer, down to the food we eat.
Being alive causes cancer, maybe you should rectify that for yourself.
The comments section is the real winner.
Todd keeps replying positively only to the 88 fanbois, but the overwhelming majority or experienced commenters prefer the 33+
The comments section is the real winner.
Todd keeps replying positively only to the 88 fanbois, but the overwhelming majority or experienced commenters prefer the 33+
never change Todd
what y'all African-Americans use electric tape for?
I filed it in my "war crimes" drawer along with adjustable wrenches, spray paint and self-threading screws.
Main use is bandaging up bleeding hand wounds... Second would be wrapping wire harnesses with.
Yes the flexible loom stuff is nice, but not always practical. My main go to is one nice tight wrap with electrical tape and then a second wrap with friction tape for better abrasion resistance and uv resistance. And for splices I always use adhesive lined heat shrink. Unless it's just a quick wire twist for testing something out before committing to a solder joint and heat shrink.
Those are the Vessel ones, they’re more of heavy duty drivers with fat shanks and the strike cap. I think those are made to be like mechanic’s drivers. Also I got those because JIS, Jappo + screws are a little different so I’ll use them working on a Yamaha built in Japan, but I think the German or American drivers fit better in regular Phillips wood screws.
If you want wood handles, this Felo set is worth checking out too. It’s like $50 right now, but I would watch the prices because I remember seeing that 5pc set for more like $30 fairly recently. I have the Felo VDE set with the bits, and I really like them and wanted to get more Felo drivers because the tips are great and handles are comfy but can’t justify another set.
Those are the Vessel ones, they’re more of heavy duty drivers with fat shanks and the strike cap. I think those are made to be like mechanic’s drivers. Also I got those because JIS, Jappo + screws are a little different so I’ll use them working on a Yamaha built in Japan, but I think the German or American drivers fit better in regular Phillips wood screws.
If you want wood handles, this Felo set is worth checking out too. It’s like $50 right now, but I would watch the prices because I remember seeing that 5pc set for more like $30 fairly recently. I have the Felo VDE set with the bits, and I really like them and wanted to get more Felo drivers because the tips are great and handles are comfy but can’t justify another set.
And further explanation on the wooden Vessels being “mechanic’s drivers”, look how large the +1 and +2 are compared to Wiha PH1 and PH2 and even the Vessel Balldriver #1 and #2. They’re large, but they claim to be good when covered in oil with the composite wood finish. I’m guessing that’s compared to regular wood finishes like laquer that would get slippery, but I actually use the stubby wood ones whenever I’m doing oil changes on this Honda and I’ve been happy with them for that purpose.
tl;dr: try that Felo set first if you want good all around wood drivers.
Also pretty sure I got my wooden Vessels before that goy AvE had them on his bench.
I was tempted to buy a set from them just out of curiosity so I could see how long it takes for the grips to peel after brake fluid. But for some reason their VDE is all red and yellow except for #1 square, which is green, and it pissed me off. I know green for ground and shit but there’s a reason everybody does red and yellow or orange for insulated, not one random green driver.
Typical Wera stupid shit trying to reinvent the wheel by making it an octagon and it looks unique but functions worse.
>pain in the ass things that take up so much room >end up chucking them into a tool bag that you have to sort through for half an hour >end up using impact driver with a bit set 90% of the time
Sure. People will argue that JIS and Phillips are the same or JIS is only on old stuff, but Wiha and Klein and Felo fit like a glove on Ph2 screws from Home Depot and Vessel has a little more of a wobble, but when I find a +2 screw on muh 2013 Yamaha, the Vessels fit perfect and the Wiha/Klein feel like they’re only seated 90%. I think the Jappo + screws are a little deeper with more of a taper, and actual PH are a little more shallow with wider wings.
Fun fact about this: don’t buy Jappo market impact driver bits for impact drivers not made in Japan, there’s a difference on those as well and the JDM bits won’t fit US or Euro market 1/4” impact drivers. Well they fit but they don’t lock in properly.
Sure. People will argue that JIS and Phillips are the same or JIS is only on old stuff, but Wiha and Klein and Felo fit like a glove on Ph2 screws from Home Depot and Vessel has a little more of a wobble, but when I find a +2 screw on muh 2013 Yamaha, the Vessels fit perfect and the Wiha/Klein feel like they’re only seated 90%. I think the Jappo + screws are a little deeper with more of a taper, and actual PH are a little more shallow with wider wings.
Fun fact about this: don’t buy Jappo market impact driver bits for impact drivers not made in Japan, there’s a difference on those as well and the JDM bits won’t fit US or Euro market 1/4” impact drivers. Well they fit but they don’t lock in properly.
But most people don’t really need the JIS drivers. Regular US/Euro phillips still work. And Jappo drivers work on regular phillips. But when you have something stubborn or rusted on an old Kawasaki bike, the 90% fit Getman Felo might strip it out while the Vessel would grab.
Here’s a pic of something on the Yamaha, the one on the left I think is Vessel (Japan) and the one on the right is a USA Klein.
When you get them, let me know what your experience is. A lot of people claim it’s only a big difference on older like 70s Honda and Kawasaki bikes and such, but the way it seems on my Yamaha from this century, the Vessel fits the Yamaha like a Klein fits a good PH2 screw, which is perfect. The Klein fits the Yamaha like a dollar tree screwdriver fits a good PH2 screw, not quite right but gets the job done.
I honestly got a +1 and +2 Vessel balldrivers for like $15 just to start. I could’ve stopped there but my mom got me the 8pc wood set for Xmas after that.
Amazon wishlist is based.
Tried them out, night and day.
I thought I was just moronic before and all the screws were old and therefore soft and stuck and would always strip.
Nope... total change with the JIS Vessels, they just fit and work.
WERA is gimmicky Reddit tier tools being pushed hard by Amazon.
$90 for these compact tool sets that can't do major repairs. If you got the money to spend $30 for 5 go ahead. But you can easily get like a 12 piece Craftsman set for $20.
Tried them out, night and day.
I thought I was just moronic before and all the screws were old and therefore soft and stuck and would always strip.
Nope... total change with the JIS Vessels, they just fit and work.
Hmm so now a couple more pieces of anecdotal evidence. Maybe they are different.
Tried them out, night and day.
I thought I was just moronic before and all the screws were old and therefore soft and stuck and would always strip.
Nope... total change with the JIS Vessels, they just fit and work.
if he agrees with that statement.
I’m looking at them right now and there’s a difference, and I can feel the difference when working with Jappo screws.
is this the tool haul thread? also bought a W-ZERO wrench but it hasn't come in yet.
https://i.imgur.com/xz01XjG.jpg
Sure. People will argue that JIS and Phillips are the same or JIS is only on old stuff, but Wiha and Klein and Felo fit like a glove on Ph2 screws from Home Depot and Vessel has a little more of a wobble, but when I find a +2 screw on muh 2013 Yamaha, the Vessels fit perfect and the Wiha/Klein feel like they’re only seated 90%. I think the Jappo + screws are a little deeper with more of a taper, and actual PH are a little more shallow with wider wings.
Fun fact about this: don’t buy Jappo market impact driver bits for impact drivers not made in Japan, there’s a difference on those as well and the JDM bits won’t fit US or Euro market 1/4” impact drivers. Well they fit but they don’t lock in properly.
"JIS" refers to the older, now obsolete JIS-B4633 standard. NEW DIN 5260-PH/ISO 8764-1 standard now encompasses this old JIS standard. If you buy a new "PH" screwdriver from a reputable company you are likely to be buying a screwdriver that conforms to new DIN/ISO standards. It will fit JIS. For example, PB Swiss screwdrivers claim to fit JIS since
2014. Vessel likewise does not claim to make PH or JIS screwdrivers, they just call it cross-type and simply state "fits JIS" implying Vessel screwdrivers conform to the modern ISO standard.
https://i.imgur.com/xz01XjG.jpg
Sure. People will argue that JIS and Phillips are the same or JIS is only on old stuff, but Wiha and Klein and Felo fit like a glove on Ph2 screws from Home Depot and Vessel has a little more of a wobble, but when I find a +2 screw on muh 2013 Yamaha, the Vessels fit perfect and the Wiha/Klein feel like they’re only seated 90%. I think the Jappo + screws are a little deeper with more of a taper, and actual PH are a little more shallow with wider wings.
Fun fact about this: don’t buy Jappo market impact driver bits for impact drivers not made in Japan, there’s a difference on those as well and the JDM bits won’t fit US or Euro market 1/4” impact drivers. Well they fit but they don’t lock in properly.
>Fun fact about this: don’t buy Jappo market impact driver bits for impact drivers not made in Japan
Indeed, Japanese chuck anvils are 13mm (Type A) whereas the rest of the world uses E6.3 standard 9.5mm (Type B) chuck anvil. They even sell power bits in Japan with grooves in both places (anex calls them W groove type).
Work on some Jappo screws though. If the screwdriver fits a good PH screw, it won’t seat 100% in the jappo screws. And a jappo driver fits the jappo screw like a glove, but not as good in PH. It’s not like you can’t use a PH2 screwdriver on a jappo +2 screw, but the fit isn’t so great.
Sounds like the Japs redesigned the + slightly so now phillips drivers will work, maybe in the past a PH2 screwdriver wouldn’t even really fit in a old JIS#2 screw.
Channellock adjustable wrenches still feel better than that lobster brand. But if it remains unused like the Wera drivers, it doesn’t even matter.
https://i.imgur.com/yGNSQTd.png
Anon did you take this photo on your bed and why does it look like this?
Dammmn OP needs a girlfriend and less Reddit/Wera.
PH2 was redesigned to fit JIS. You cannot find a Japanese manufacturer that still makes JIS screwdrivers. This change has already occured like 10+ years ago. It's old news. You have no idea.
>unused
I'm still using the Wera kit I posted here a while ago on boeing 767s, by the way. They're such amazing tools for actual work. The backdrag on the Wera ratchet rivals even the Koken ratchets. I hope one day you'll get to use your elite wiha and felo tools on something other than facebook marketplace 2strokes :^)
6 months ago
Bepis
The people who have used the japanese screwdrivers on japanese screws say 100% there’s a difference
The people who collect Wera but have never stuck a Japanese screwdriver into a jappo and/or Phillips screw claim there is no difference.
Who do I believe?!
6 months ago
Anonymous
The ones who actually do the work.
JIS screws are still common in their motor bikes and ski-doos.
Similar does not actually mean the same.
Philips and posidrive, even the new ones, simply do not work well with JIS.
nah but I feel like you might be autistic.
you bought some fricking screwdrivers and because you know nobody in your life would care about it you had to take a picture and post it online for attention. try to see yourself as other people see you.
>screwdriver set
Is there some kind of unwritten rule that you can't offer Ph#0-3 drivers in the same set?? They always throw in some bullshit square drivers, pliers, ketchup packets, etc. Plus there has to be a minimum 3:2 ratio of flat slotted screwdrivers in a fricking menagerie of sizes. A veritable cornucopia of ass. A requisite ass-fricking of the slotted screwdriver range, included whether you want it or not. In the infinite permutations of these sets, it's impossible to find a full set of Goddamn Philips head screwdrivers.
I know why they do it; It's because they're motherfricking criminals who need to be lined up against the wall and shot. But still, it pisses me off. It's not as bad as the girthy shafts on my set of multi-drivers, which won't fit into many orifices. but it still sucks.
You’re sort of talking about different applications at that point, and if you need a PH0-PH3, you very likely need slotted drivers too. Just buy a regular set and a precision set and you will be covered.
I will say, however, I was stoked with the Wiha torx set. It was 12 or 13pcs from like T8 up to T40 or some shit, that was a nice combination of sizes for ~$60
>if you need a PH0-PH3, you very likely need slotted drivers
I don't actually need many of the tools I buy. I live near a makerspace, where all all of the basic tools are already there, sourced by retired oldgays. Any flat screwdriver in the tool chest somebody already tried to use it as a crowbar, pry bar, chisel, and shim stock. So unless I actually want the experience of the unknown, I just buy any tool I remember using. 80% of the green Ryobi drills were usually broken, $300 rotary tool got killed because somebody covered the vents with their gloves. Meanwhile I've been grabbing the same Milwaukee angle grinder every time I need to grind. If I see that the little plastic shit in the middle of the safety paddle snapped off, I would put it back and grab a different one. If the battery doesn't make contact due to being covered in sludge, I would put it back and grab a different one. If the guard was totally gone, I would not put it back, I would just put the guard back on.
My point is, I need to build me one of them sliding tool drawer chests. If I buy the drawer sliders from McMaster and use 14 gauge plate on the bottom, it will be practicable. If I attempt to either bend sheet metal gussets for stiffness or construct the sliders themselves, then it will be a terrible, awful project and I will not enjoy it.
>Wiha torx set
nothing wrong with using Torx but anybody who suggests that you should use torx as a daily driver because the splines have a closer fit, is a low-functioning autist optimizing for the wrong constraints.
Philips a shit, and slotted head is too, but a lot of this shit comes with it, and I'm not gonna go change all these screws out. Especially because some of it may be in imperial thread pitch and I refuse to attempt to comprehend any of that shit. And actually, a lot of my terminal blocks have slots, so I do actually need those. just... what the frick, at least I can complain about it and feel better.
sage
p.s. Czech these l)u8S => ^ ^ ^ 88
Shoulda posted this earlier before they sold out. Good drivers for only a couple bucks more than the Olfa cutter would cost alone.
Oh well, maybe Lowe’s will have more dirt cheap Wiha. I gotta stop by one day and see if they have any good holiday displays. Lowe’s shoppers don’t understand what Wiha is and the $19.99 5pc driver set sold like 3pcs by Xmas, and then went on clearance for $11. I shoulda bought like 10 of them to gift to Anons who still use crappy acetate handle Craftsmans.
PH2 was redesigned to fit JIS. You cannot find a Japanese manufacturer that still makes JIS screwdrivers. This change has already occured like 10+ years ago. It's old news. You have no idea.
>unused
I'm still using the Wera kit I posted here a while ago on boeing 767s, by the way. They're such amazing tools for actual work. The backdrag on the Wera ratchet rivals even the Koken ratchets. I hope one day you'll get to use your elite wiha and felo tools on something other than facebook marketplace 2strokes :^)
With this discussion, there’s always somebody who claims JIS doesn’t exist anymore and everything is Phillips.
nah
read it and weep
>88
>electrical tape
I guess my grandpa's helmet with 2 lightning bolts would fit well
heh
>88 tape
>.0085
They stole .0003 in from you
That 3 thou is the glue.
>0.0003
>3 thou
Ha Ha Ha
>American tape gives them cancer.
>cancer
only in the state of California
It's California bullshit, they'd slap a pro65 warning on water if they could convince enough idiots.
yes industrial chemicals which are known carcinogens are in basically everything, but every boomer homosexual makes the same joke every time:
>durr only in califernia XD
as if there's something wrong with pointing out that literally everything around us is giving us cancer, down to the food we eat.
>as if there's something wrong with pointing out that literally everything around us is giving us cancer, down to the food we eat.
Being alive causes cancer, maybe you should rectify that for yourself.
>seething this hard
I just know you're a worthless flyover
You know being white in the sun gives you cancer.
For me, its the Scotch 33+
88 is better than 33+
There's nothing quite as aggravating as trying to take this stuff off a few years later.
Hmmm
The comments section is the real winner.
Todd keeps replying positively only to the 88 fanbois, but the overwhelming majority or experienced commenters prefer the 33+
never change Todd
what y'all African-Americans use electric tape for?
I filed it in my "war crimes" drawer along with adjustable wrenches, spray paint and self-threading screws.
Main use is bandaging up bleeding hand wounds... Second would be wrapping wire harnesses with.
Yes the flexible loom stuff is nice, but not always practical. My main go to is one nice tight wrap with electrical tape and then a second wrap with friction tape for better abrasion resistance and uv resistance. And for splices I always use adhesive lined heat shrink. Unless it's just a quick wire twist for testing something out before committing to a solder joint and heat shrink.
No I use Vessel, better than that turkish crap
Nope, see
I don’t use Slav tools
that wood one looks good
how do you get this black metal stuff and brown wood aesthetic in your wood working
Those are the Vessel ones, they’re more of heavy duty drivers with fat shanks and the strike cap. I think those are made to be like mechanic’s drivers. Also I got those because JIS, Jappo + screws are a little different so I’ll use them working on a Yamaha built in Japan, but I think the German or American drivers fit better in regular Phillips wood screws.
If you want wood handles, this Felo set is worth checking out too. It’s like $50 right now, but I would watch the prices because I remember seeing that 5pc set for more like $30 fairly recently. I have the Felo VDE set with the bits, and I really like them and wanted to get more Felo drivers because the tips are great and handles are comfy but can’t justify another set.
I love this Felo set. I never used a superior screwdriver.
And further explanation on the wooden Vessels being “mechanic’s drivers”, look how large the +1 and +2 are compared to Wiha PH1 and PH2 and even the Vessel Balldriver #1 and #2. They’re large, but they claim to be good when covered in oil with the composite wood finish. I’m guessing that’s compared to regular wood finishes like laquer that would get slippery, but I actually use the stubby wood ones whenever I’m doing oil changes on this Honda and I’ve been happy with them for that purpose.
tl;dr: try that Felo set first if you want good all around wood drivers.
Also pretty sure I got my wooden Vessels before that goy AvE had them on his bench.
wiha's designed for best ass comfort.
Nope. I man.
>non-insulated
hard nope
>Pozidriv, not even once
All cabinet hinges are manufactured with pozidrive screws and adjusters
>different screwdrivers all have same color and shape handle
Way to out yourself as never using them.
I was tempted to buy a set from them just out of curiosity so I could see how long it takes for the grips to peel after brake fluid. But for some reason their VDE is all red and yellow except for #1 square, which is green, and it pissed me off. I know green for ground and shit but there’s a reason everybody does red and yellow or orange for insulated, not one random green driver.
Typical Wera stupid shit trying to reinvent the wheel by making it an octagon and it looks unique but functions worse.
I got the yellow chisel ones
>pain in the ass things that take up so much room
>end up chucking them into a tool bag that you have to sort through for half an hour
>end up using impact driver with a bit set 90% of the time
Seething poorgays ITT
So felo is for regular philips, and vessel is for jap philips?
Sure. People will argue that JIS and Phillips are the same or JIS is only on old stuff, but Wiha and Klein and Felo fit like a glove on Ph2 screws from Home Depot and Vessel has a little more of a wobble, but when I find a +2 screw on muh 2013 Yamaha, the Vessels fit perfect and the Wiha/Klein feel like they’re only seated 90%. I think the Jappo + screws are a little deeper with more of a taper, and actual PH are a little more shallow with wider wings.
Fun fact about this: don’t buy Jappo market impact driver bits for impact drivers not made in Japan, there’s a difference on those as well and the JDM bits won’t fit US or Euro market 1/4” impact drivers. Well they fit but they don’t lock in properly.
But most people don’t really need the JIS drivers. Regular US/Euro phillips still work. And Jappo drivers work on regular phillips. But when you have something stubborn or rusted on an old Kawasaki bike, the 90% fit Getman Felo might strip it out while the Vessel would grab.
Here’s a pic of something on the Yamaha, the one on the left I think is Vessel (Japan) and the one on the right is a USA Klein.
This picture has made me buy a Vessel JIS set for my CBR
When you get them, let me know what your experience is. A lot of people claim it’s only a big difference on older like 70s Honda and Kawasaki bikes and such, but the way it seems on my Yamaha from this century, the Vessel fits the Yamaha like a Klein fits a good PH2 screw, which is perfect. The Klein fits the Yamaha like a dollar tree screwdriver fits a good PH2 screw, not quite right but gets the job done.
I honestly got a +1 and +2 Vessel balldrivers for like $15 just to start. I could’ve stopped there but my mom got me the 8pc wood set for Xmas after that.
Amazon wishlist is based.
Tried them out, night and day.
I thought I was just moronic before and all the screws were old and therefore soft and stuck and would always strip.
Nope... total change with the JIS Vessels, they just fit and work.
not really. my trade uses screwdrivers a lot and the ones I have are comfortable so I'm all good.
They look like butt plugs
IM A MF TOOL REBEL
(*le cringe*)
Wew I went this whole thread without
>#TOOLREBEL
>#REDDIT
>#mlp
WERA is gimmicky Reddit tier tools being pushed hard by Amazon.
$90 for these compact tool sets that can't do major repairs. If you got the money to spend $30 for 5 go ahead. But you can easily get like a 12 piece Craftsman set for $20.
Based OP, lots of seething normies ITT
>#TOOLREBEL
Make sure to share on Facebook!
Hmm so now a couple more pieces of anecdotal evidence. Maybe they are different.
no one makes actual phillips or JIS drivers anymore it was combined in a compatible standard
Ask this anon
if he agrees with that statement.
I’m looking at them right now and there’s a difference, and I can feel the difference when working with Jappo screws.
The US and Euro drivers have a larger angle or taper, the Jappo drivers have a smaller angle/ longer taper
is this the tool haul thread? also bought a W-ZERO wrench but it hasn't come in yet.
"JIS" refers to the older, now obsolete JIS-B4633 standard. NEW DIN 5260-PH/ISO 8764-1 standard now encompasses this old JIS standard. If you buy a new "PH" screwdriver from a reputable company you are likely to be buying a screwdriver that conforms to new DIN/ISO standards. It will fit JIS. For example, PB Swiss screwdrivers claim to fit JIS since
2014. Vessel likewise does not claim to make PH or JIS screwdrivers, they just call it cross-type and simply state "fits JIS" implying Vessel screwdrivers conform to the modern ISO standard.
>Fun fact about this: don’t buy Jappo market impact driver bits for impact drivers not made in Japan
Indeed, Japanese chuck anvils are 13mm (Type A) whereas the rest of the world uses E6.3 standard 9.5mm (Type B) chuck anvil. They even sell power bits in Japan with grooves in both places (anex calls them W groove type).
Work on some Jappo screws though. If the screwdriver fits a good PH screw, it won’t seat 100% in the jappo screws. And a jappo driver fits the jappo screw like a glove, but not as good in PH. It’s not like you can’t use a PH2 screwdriver on a jappo +2 screw, but the fit isn’t so great.
Sounds like the Japs redesigned the + slightly so now phillips drivers will work, maybe in the past a PH2 screwdriver wouldn’t even really fit in a old JIS#2 screw.
Channellock adjustable wrenches still feel better than that lobster brand. But if it remains unused like the Wera drivers, it doesn’t even matter.
Dammmn OP needs a girlfriend and less Reddit/Wera.
PH2 was redesigned to fit JIS. You cannot find a Japanese manufacturer that still makes JIS screwdrivers. This change has already occured like 10+ years ago. It's old news. You have no idea.
>unused
I'm still using the Wera kit I posted here a while ago on boeing 767s, by the way. They're such amazing tools for actual work. The backdrag on the Wera ratchet rivals even the Koken ratchets. I hope one day you'll get to use your elite wiha and felo tools on something other than facebook marketplace 2strokes :^)
The people who have used the japanese screwdrivers on japanese screws say 100% there’s a difference
The people who collect Wera but have never stuck a Japanese screwdriver into a jappo and/or Phillips screw claim there is no difference.
Who do I believe?!
The ones who actually do the work.
JIS screws are still common in their motor bikes and ski-doos.
Similar does not actually mean the same.
Philips and posidrive, even the new ones, simply do not work well with JIS.
+1 for Bepis
nah but I feel like you might be autistic.
you bought some fricking screwdrivers and because you know nobody in your life would care about it you had to take a picture and post it online for attention. try to see yourself as other people see you.
Anon… you’re posting here too.
imagine being this lonely; telling your sob story to strangers online to get replies
Anon did you take this photo on your bed and why does it look like this?
It's your mum's cum stains on the bottom.
Shafts arent insulated. Cant do electrical with that. Hard pass.
real chads just put heat shrink on the shafts
>screwdriver set
Is there some kind of unwritten rule that you can't offer Ph#0-3 drivers in the same set?? They always throw in some bullshit square drivers, pliers, ketchup packets, etc. Plus there has to be a minimum 3:2 ratio of flat slotted screwdrivers in a fricking menagerie of sizes. A veritable cornucopia of ass. A requisite ass-fricking of the slotted screwdriver range, included whether you want it or not. In the infinite permutations of these sets, it's impossible to find a full set of Goddamn Philips head screwdrivers.
I know why they do it; It's because they're motherfricking criminals who need to be lined up against the wall and shot. But still, it pisses me off. It's not as bad as the girthy shafts on my set of multi-drivers, which won't fit into many orifices. but it still sucks.
You’re sort of talking about different applications at that point, and if you need a PH0-PH3, you very likely need slotted drivers too. Just buy a regular set and a precision set and you will be covered.
I will say, however, I was stoked with the Wiha torx set. It was 12 or 13pcs from like T8 up to T40 or some shit, that was a nice combination of sizes for ~$60
>if you need a PH0-PH3, you very likely need slotted drivers
I don't actually need many of the tools I buy. I live near a makerspace, where all all of the basic tools are already there, sourced by retired oldgays. Any flat screwdriver in the tool chest somebody already tried to use it as a crowbar, pry bar, chisel, and shim stock. So unless I actually want the experience of the unknown, I just buy any tool I remember using. 80% of the green Ryobi drills were usually broken, $300 rotary tool got killed because somebody covered the vents with their gloves. Meanwhile I've been grabbing the same Milwaukee angle grinder every time I need to grind. If I see that the little plastic shit in the middle of the safety paddle snapped off, I would put it back and grab a different one. If the battery doesn't make contact due to being covered in sludge, I would put it back and grab a different one. If the guard was totally gone, I would not put it back, I would just put the guard back on.
My point is, I need to build me one of them sliding tool drawer chests. If I buy the drawer sliders from McMaster and use 14 gauge plate on the bottom, it will be practicable. If I attempt to either bend sheet metal gussets for stiffness or construct the sliders themselves, then it will be a terrible, awful project and I will not enjoy it.
>Wiha torx set
nothing wrong with using Torx but anybody who suggests that you should use torx as a daily driver because the splines have a closer fit, is a low-functioning autist optimizing for the wrong constraints.
>makerspace
So gay. I could never share tools with those people.
Philips a shit, and slotted head is too, but a lot of this shit comes with it, and I'm not gonna go change all these screws out. Especially because some of it may be in imperial thread pitch and I refuse to attempt to comprehend any of that shit. And actually, a lot of my terminal blocks have slots, so I do actually need those. just... what the frick, at least I can complain about it and feel better.
sage
p.s. Czech these l)u8S => ^ ^ ^ 88
Shoulda posted this earlier before they sold out. Good drivers for only a couple bucks more than the Olfa cutter would cost alone.
Oh well, maybe Lowe’s will have more dirt cheap Wiha. I gotta stop by one day and see if they have any good holiday displays. Lowe’s shoppers don’t understand what Wiha is and the $19.99 5pc driver set sold like 3pcs by Xmas, and then went on clearance for $11. I shoulda bought like 10 of them to gift to Anons who still use crappy acetate handle Craftsmans.
My experience with electrical tape over the years has been so bad that I splice and heat shrink whenever possible
>JIS
>phillips
Different
Why does this thread seem to imply confusion, or lack of comprehension and understanding that these two are different.
THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN WHAT THE FRICK ARE YOU PEOPLE ON
"The ph2 just doesnt fit right"
ITS THE WRONG FRICKING TOOL
ARE WE GONNA MAKE A THREAD ON WHAT TORX SCREWS YOU CAN JAMB AN ALLEN INTO?
THE FACT THAT ITS FRICKING DECADES OLD TRIPgayS JERKING EACH OTHER OFF TELLS YOU THIS THREAD IS EXACTLY THAT
Ohhhh but let me tell you the intricacies of myexperience with
Shut the frick up.
Wut?
See
With this discussion, there’s always somebody who claims JIS doesn’t exist anymore and everything is Phillips.
Also