>friend says he's gonna leave the call for a few minutes to talk to his weed guy >"all right" >see him booting up CS 1.6 >he's in game for about 2 minutes then comes back >"I thought you were gonna call your guy?" >"yeah I just talked to him"
it's smart, but it's really weird
Al Qaeda and ISIS used COD lobbies for encrypted, unmonitored VOIP
You can use Minecraft the same way
Wait, this really works? I once had an idea for a crime story that involved a couple of criminals using old multiplayer games to communicate with each other, like say mount and blade but figured it was probably unrealistic.
I had a room mate back in the early 2000's that met and bought weed from a dude in a counter strike lobby that had phone area code as part of the lobby name.
Hung out as his house a couple times, smoked a couple bowls out of a gigantic blue bong filled with ice cubes, was pretty cash.
>friend says he's gonna leave the call for a few minutes to talk to his weed guy >"all right" >see him booting up CS 1.6 >he's in game for about 2 minutes then comes back >"I thought you were gonna call your guy?" >"yeah I just talked to him"
it's smart, but it's really weird
https://i.imgur.com/MuHISpf.jpg
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Wait, this really works? I once had an idea for a crime story that involved a couple of criminals using old multiplayer games to communicate with each other, like say mount and blade but figured it was probably unrealistic.
The government knows this works and has known for a while. They started by monitoring old school MMOs back in the day like World of Warcraft. There is only so much they can access if the game is private or hosted though, it would take human error on the part of the perpetrators to get caught, which happens more often than you would think in the virtual space just as it does in the real world.
>You can use Minecraft the same way
no you can't, even your LOCAL messages go through microsoft server nowadays, and they monitor your PRIVATE LOCAL MESSAGES
i remember playing that shit when it was just the creative mode and i remember thinking "this is kinda cool but it won't take off unless he adds a survival mode or something"
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Wait, this really works? I once had an idea for a crime story that involved a couple of criminals using old multiplayer games to communicate with each other, like say mount and blade but figured it was probably unrealistic.
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The government knows this works and has known for a while. They started by monitoring old school MMOs back in the day like World of Warcraft. There is only so much they can access if the game is private or hosted though, it would take human error on the part of the perpetrators to get caught, which happens more often than you would think in the virtual space just as it does in the real world.
You ever heard of Arby n the Chief?
It's a halo machinima, master chief is a master troll and shitposter and Arby is just a notch above being a redditor pseudo intellectual.
Anyways multiple criminals use halo reach multiplayer servers to buy, sell drugs, murder, and commit other various crimes.
It's funny as hell you guys should watch it.
This makes me sad. Not because I hoped the guy had been planning something, but that his autism was so powerful that he was building multiple scale replicas of RL architecture.
Which shows what glowBlack folk are now trying to push on the internet, FEAR of using it.
Fact: Gangbangers get away with murder all the time and CSI cannot keep up with it this it goes on. Murder does not get you arrested unless you are going out of your way to be.
From what I've heard about the FBI's operations, adding "in minecraft" actually gets their attention even more because they know what it's used for. No, it doesn't work as a "haha I was going to blow up a building in minecraft therefore I am immune from scrutiny and prosection".
I'm suspicious of this game chat for secure comms idea. I know way back in the day some criminals used World of Warcraft for comms but there are some problems with that today:
1) At the end of the day. It was unencrypted. Don't.
2) Only reason they got away with it was because law enforcement lacked the resources, knowledge, and equipment to properly monitor all network activity back then and nobody thought about a game.
3) For agencies that could bulk monitor at the time like NSA, some drug gangsters are too low profile. Even pedos are generally low profile at that level unless they sell or produce.
4) This was already "infamous" like a decade ago and tools now allow to find such unencrypted comms (AKA fricking Wireshark).
For low profile stuff, something encrypted that can't share much if glowies ask them is good enough (Signal I guess).
For more serious stuff where you need to hide you communicated at all with such and such IP, Tor at all times, strictly compartmentalized on Whonix/QubesOS at all times, with your own GPG keys to be only used for that job, payments strictly with Monero. Things like Onionshare.
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Doesn't matter who owns the server as long as the chat is unencrypted. It shows up on the wire.
i remember playing that shit when it was just the creative mode and i remember thinking "this is kinda cool but it won't take off unless he adds a survival mode or something"
how time flies
I remember in 2009 Minecraft was an obscure game on PrepHole, and Notch was like "yeah bro it'll be like Dwarf Fortress". You lazy frick, my ass it'll be DF. Mojang are still lazy bastards that barely add anything so nothing changed really.
>AKA fricking Wireshark
you don't use Wireshark for bulk analysis.
Instead, you use continuous packet capture (CPCAP) appliances that can ingest 10, 40, or 100 Gb/s of raw network traffic.
The question is where do you want to take the processing hit?
At capture time? Packets are indexed and stored at capture, making for faster retrieval later.
At query time? Packets are simply jammed onto disk as fast as disk allows, making for slower query times.
That's just the capture portion. The analysis portion can be done in real time during capture or post capture.
Then there's the question of how must reassembly you want to do. Some tools take packets as they come, no reassembly (so they are vulnerable to fragmentation, out-of-order packets, etc). Some tools will do re-assembly of the individual flow (so there's a processing hit but fragmentation and out of order are a don't care). Again, there are tradeoffs.
t. works in that field
Using game VOIP (not text chat) for organizing petty crime is honestly pretty reasonable. While LEO will monitor anything with an internet connection, they're not gonna waste time and effort going after every dope who uses Team Fortress 2 voice chat to buy shitty weed. It's just a layer of protection to deal with local law enforcement more than anything. If you're interested in more significant and actually eye-drawing crimes that bring more attention from the law you probably have more efficient means of untrackable communication with your co-conspirators.
People using game-based coms for recruitment and selling shit isn't new. A few years ago I remember hearing that terrorists in Syria used fricking PS4 coms to recruit morons, cause they didn't monitor that shit in the EU.
>homies dont know what a PGP messaging is
No wonder most of them are selling weed, the fact is that game voip can be monitored, but good luck breaking RSA
Which do you think is more likely to draw suspicion and attention? Guy logging into a game server and talking to some people, or random homie sudenly using encrypted communication methods, which being a dumb criminal they're likely to fricking Google how to set up and other big red flags? The point isn't that it's impossible to listen in on, it's that it's not worth the time to do so since they're behaving as expected, though the advent modern TTS algorithms being really fricking good at transcribing things means that it's not as good a defense anymore.
Al Qaeda and ISIS used COD lobbies for encrypted, unmonitored VOIP
You can use Minecraft the same way
I knew drug dealers/pimps who did this as well
>friend says he's gonna leave the call for a few minutes to talk to his weed guy
>"all right"
>see him booting up CS 1.6
>he's in game for about 2 minutes then comes back
>"I thought you were gonna call your guy?"
>"yeah I just talked to him"
it's smart, but it's really weird
Wait, this really works? I once had an idea for a crime story that involved a couple of criminals using old multiplayer games to communicate with each other, like say mount and blade but figured it was probably unrealistic.
I heard about Tibia private servers being used for this
I had a room mate back in the early 2000's that met and bought weed from a dude in a counter strike lobby that had phone area code as part of the lobby name.
Hung out as his house a couple times, smoked a couple bowls out of a gigantic blue bong filled with ice cubes, was pretty cash.
Cyber cafes used to be good for that.
The government knows this works and has known for a while. They started by monitoring old school MMOs back in the day like World of Warcraft. There is only so much they can access if the game is private or hosted though, it would take human error on the part of the perpetrators to get caught, which happens more often than you would think in the virtual space just as it does in the real world.
>You can use Minecraft the same way
no you can't, even your LOCAL messages go through microsoft server nowadays, and they monitor your PRIVATE LOCAL MESSAGES
theres plugins to disable that
I can tell you didn't play Minecraft before Microsoft bought it
Host your own fricking server
Black person I played and stopped playing it while it was still in beta
>beta
minecraft newbie confirmed
>beta
>not the multiplayer test mode
>not the survival test mode
>didn't even play before diamonds were added
i remember playing that shit when it was just the creative mode and i remember thinking "this is kinda cool but it won't take off unless he adds a survival mode or something"
how time flies
>beta
>not infdev
frog girl was love, frog girl was life
You ever heard of Arby n the Chief?
It's a halo machinima, master chief is a master troll and shitposter and Arby is just a notch above being a redditor pseudo intellectual.
Anyways multiple criminals use halo reach multiplayer servers to buy, sell drugs, murder, and commit other various crimes.
It's funny as hell you guys should watch it.
I remember Arby n the Chief, its a classic
It's still airing, here's the link to the channel.
https://youtube.com/c/JonCJGVideo
I put $2 on him replicating them with a combination of satellite imagery and autism.
Yeah, didn't Tom Clancey have similar problems? and that was before google maps, or internet at all really.
i-im gonna deboooooooooooooooooooonk
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/nov/02/facebook-posts/viral-story-about-arrest-minecraft-misinformation/
This makes me sad. Not because I hoped the guy had been planning something, but that his autism was so powerful that he was building multiple scale replicas of RL architecture.
>using a so called fact checker
go back
>noooo you can't point out completely made up information!!!!!
what led you to this point in your life pal?
My unwavering dedication to a failed real estate mogul and reality tv star who has been a laughing stock for most of his adult life.
Which shows what glowBlack folk are now trying to push on the internet, FEAR of using it.
Fact: Gangbangers get away with murder all the time and CSI cannot keep up with it this it goes on. Murder does not get you arrested unless you are going out of your way to be.
Was he charged with possesion of weaponized autism?
I'm assumed he was questioned but not charged lmao
>what are the charges glowBlack person?
playing minecraft post infdev, which is a death penalty
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/feb/10/russian-teenager-nikita-uvarov-jailed-over-minecraft-plot-to-blow-up-virtual-spy-hq
If you are going to joke about threatening heads of state or perform other acts of terrorism don't be a pussy about it, lean into the bit.
From what I've heard about the FBI's operations, adding "in minecraft" actually gets their attention even more because they know what it's used for. No, it doesn't work as a "haha I was going to blow up a building in minecraft therefore I am immune from scrutiny and prosection".
ive only ever seen "in minecraft" used as a joking way to avoid being banned off a website for being too spicy
youd have to be a real idiot to use it for some real shit
I'm suspicious of this game chat for secure comms idea. I know way back in the day some criminals used World of Warcraft for comms but there are some problems with that today:
1) At the end of the day. It was unencrypted. Don't.
2) Only reason they got away with it was because law enforcement lacked the resources, knowledge, and equipment to properly monitor all network activity back then and nobody thought about a game.
3) For agencies that could bulk monitor at the time like NSA, some drug gangsters are too low profile. Even pedos are generally low profile at that level unless they sell or produce.
4) This was already "infamous" like a decade ago and tools now allow to find such unencrypted comms (AKA fricking Wireshark).
For low profile stuff, something encrypted that can't share much if glowies ask them is good enough (Signal I guess).
For more serious stuff where you need to hide you communicated at all with such and such IP, Tor at all times, strictly compartmentalized on Whonix/QubesOS at all times, with your own GPG keys to be only used for that job, payments strictly with Monero. Things like Onionshare.
Doesn't matter who owns the server as long as the chat is unencrypted. It shows up on the wire.
I remember in 2009 Minecraft was an obscure game on PrepHole, and Notch was like "yeah bro it'll be like Dwarf Fortress". You lazy frick, my ass it'll be DF. Mojang are still lazy bastards that barely add anything so nothing changed really.
>AKA fricking Wireshark
you don't use Wireshark for bulk analysis.
Instead, you use continuous packet capture (CPCAP) appliances that can ingest 10, 40, or 100 Gb/s of raw network traffic.
The question is where do you want to take the processing hit?
At capture time? Packets are indexed and stored at capture, making for faster retrieval later.
At query time? Packets are simply jammed onto disk as fast as disk allows, making for slower query times.
That's just the capture portion. The analysis portion can be done in real time during capture or post capture.
Then there's the question of how must reassembly you want to do. Some tools take packets as they come, no reassembly (so they are vulnerable to fragmentation, out-of-order packets, etc). Some tools will do re-assembly of the individual flow (so there's a processing hit but fragmentation and out of order are a don't care). Again, there are tradeoffs.
t. works in that field
Using game VOIP (not text chat) for organizing petty crime is honestly pretty reasonable. While LEO will monitor anything with an internet connection, they're not gonna waste time and effort going after every dope who uses Team Fortress 2 voice chat to buy shitty weed. It's just a layer of protection to deal with local law enforcement more than anything. If you're interested in more significant and actually eye-drawing crimes that bring more attention from the law you probably have more efficient means of untrackable communication with your co-conspirators.
>Notch was like "yeah bro it'll be like Dwarf Fortress"
I avoided Minecraft for a long time because "why would I play simplistic 3D Dwarf Fortress"
People using game-based coms for recruitment and selling shit isn't new. A few years ago I remember hearing that terrorists in Syria used fricking PS4 coms to recruit morons, cause they didn't monitor that shit in the EU.
Fake but I wish it was real
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/11/07/fact-check-virginia-man-not-arrested-minecraft-military-bases/6286809001/
>homies dont know what a PGP messaging is
No wonder most of them are selling weed, the fact is that game voip can be monitored, but good luck breaking RSA
Which do you think is more likely to draw suspicion and attention? Guy logging into a game server and talking to some people, or random homie sudenly using encrypted communication methods, which being a dumb criminal they're likely to fricking Google how to set up and other big red flags? The point isn't that it's impossible to listen in on, it's that it's not worth the time to do so since they're behaving as expected, though the advent modern TTS algorithms being really fricking good at transcribing things means that it's not as good a defense anymore.