see all that blue space in between the yellow stuff? That's the nice stuff. Still have it in the east.
west is abandoned cuz its unlivably dry and cold/hot/inhospitable.
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>west is abandoned cuz its unlivably dry and cold/hot/inhospitable.
Yes.
11 months ago
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ok, wasn't planning to visit anyways bro
11 months ago
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You would probably die, so that's smart. Many such cases! Every year dumbasses come from the east and die in the Grand Canyon.
Comfy and frustrating. The specific area I live in now is being overrun by rich people wanting to "get away from it all" and now rent went from 300-600 average to 900-1.5k and house prices are about 200k-500k+ now
The locals are decent people, the methheads will leave you alone for the most part, the area itself is beautiful, the history is interesting, my family tree runs deep in the area.
im moving to this area (the tennessee portion) in about a year, can i post?
Close and god no, the big three cities of Tennessee seem like total shitholes
Pikeville reporting. Still a shithole.
Over and out
No offense anon but every kentuckian I've met seems deeply inbred
It's funny how there's a big difference between the average people fauna from each state while to an outsider we all just seem like hicks.
>the big three cities of Tennessee seem like total shitholes
Out of the three, Knoxville is easily the best. Just avoid anything south of Maryville, or north and east of downtown inside the bypass, or anything in the vicinity of Pigeon Forge, or...
>the big three cities of Tennessee seem like total shitholes
I've lived in Knoxville for 38 years and I can confirm it is a fricking shithole. The other big cities are worse, however. Nashville is a bigger, nastier, more crowded and more homeless-filled version of Knoxville. And Chattanooga and Memphis are hitting Atlanta-levels of Black person saturation. Tennessee is cool but dear God don't move to a city.
tri cities area reporting, awesome place, but frick these old florida rich people. probably be moving a little outside tri cities soon cause everythings ungodly overpriced, like run down historic home 300,000$ +
people who want to get away from it all but still want to go to target and publix without black people. it sucks but its what happens to all growing cities, soon it will be indistinguishable from knoxville, hell I grew up in knox and its become basically how knox was 20years ago
I've got deep roots down South and I don't see a lot of rich ppl moving where I live, but the cities are growing. They keep developing and expanding outwards, but a lot of places up in the hills are pretty darn remote. I think they mostly go to the cities like Nashville and Knoxville and places like that.
>Knoxville
The DOE is up there in the hills, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, they do nuclear research and are now home to the most powerful computer on planet Earth which is pretty neat. So you have government employees up there, not just private industry.
I've been priced out of the area I'm currently renting in despite being middle class for the area. They really want the dirty low class tradies to live in run down trailers on the outskirts of town, frick this place.
>The specific area I live in now is being overrun by rich people wanting to "get away from it all" and now rent went from 300-600 average to 900-1.5k and house prices are about 200k-500k+ now
Hurts. I have family all around SW Virginia and I got to watch once affordable houses skyrocket the past few years right when I needed to move back to help out.
I just hope some of them get tired of living rural and decide to sell soon. Fricking tired.
Over a million illegals are crossing the border every year, over a million migrate legally, and banks now offer 40 year mortgages. Housing prices are going up and up until a major crash in a decade or so (when 3rd world GDP is sufficient enough that the amount of immigration influx subsides, cooling demand for new housing and driving prices down)
>major city of two million people is ten miles up the road
No idea what you're talking about. Did I circle too much of TN? Knoxville is over two hours away from me.
>major city of two million people is ten miles up the road
No idea what you're talking about. Did I circle too much of TN? Knoxville is over two hours away from me.
He probably means the fact that there's literally roads everywhere in every direction despite the hills - oh you gotta go 3 miles extra to hit that road..
Living so far up a mountainous canyon in the Southwest that not only are there no roads to 'go through' over the mountains but you're so far from even a gas station that people would have to make a special trip just to go your direction - that's remote. Here's a 2 1/2 drive to the nearest Walmart in a low pop town
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Yeah, I can understand that. Looking at the maps of the west coast is freaky to me, yall got like five roads in the whole state in some places. I'd love to visit, I'm such a moron I didn't realize the blue ridge mountains were special and that not all mountains are foggy looking.
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It's a different kind of remote, i'll give you that. In the west a lot of places you can see someone coming from miles, the hills out east make for a more enclosed-feeling remoteness practically everywhere. There's neighbors a mile away but it doesn't feel that way because there's hills inbetween.
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Will never understand white guys that want to live in a desert. Do you hate your ancestors?
what was living in greeneville like? im floridabro looking to move to wholesome christian area that's not totally sticks and i've come across it in my research
Eh, it's pretty fair cost of living. You can catch places for sale actually on Greene mountain, but that's going away as more and more people are looking for that smoky mountain getaway feel.
It's very heavily Christian, dozens of little country churches to choose from.
You'll probably appreciate that they just got a Publix.
Florida is spreading its culture across state lines lmao. Thanks, I was originally considering east KY but its kinda too rundown, central KY I've enjoyed, West NC seems like its got the same problems as east TN but with way more NYCers, I'm in my late 20s and unmarried and I think I gotta move closer to Knoxville or Tri-Cities cause in a small town as a transplant I'll reckon i won't find a wife (let alone employment lol)
Florida “culture” is just southern redneck culture, it has nothing homegrown as no one lived there until 1900 because the Indians kept murdering everyone. There’s a reason north Florida and south Florida are entirely different.
tri cities area reporting, awesome place, but frick these old florida rich people. probably be moving a little outside tri cities soon cause everythings ungodly overpriced, like run down historic home 300,000$ +
FL Anon here, are they actually from Florida or are they yankees who moved to Florida and have now left (serves them right, yankee trash)?
Moved further north in WV than this area. I was a native Floridian. Born and raised, and the Yankee scum priced me out of affording so much as a shack.
I like it better here. Almost no Black folk, almost no Central/South American trash (Cubans and some Mexicans are okay), no frickin' NYC or Boston buttholes.
agree, high country area is really beautiful, but boone specifically is shit, tiny ass roads and everyones driving a cummins 350 cum guzzler, its gonna end up being an even shittier gatlinburg, if not already
its definitely disproportionately florida, ofcource you got the Californians but they go to the MCmansions while floridians arnt as rich so they buy up the mid class properties and jack up the price
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Roan mountain is definitely the most picturesque but its fairly popular, depending on what you consider popular. my personal favorites are, emerald forest, beauty spot, and laural falls, and wautuga wilderness/lake if you got a kayak, this is all eastTN though so I go to these spots alot since they are close, I've heard good things about silva and that mountain
Boone was ok 20 years ago but the yuppies have took over. I did see an Asian guy crash his bike while I was sitting at an intersection on my way into pisgah last weekend. Gave me something to chuckle about for the rest of my ride.
>boone
I almost moved to Boone to complete my bachelor's and chose Asheville instead. I'm happy with the choice but now I'm in my own personal hell.
At least places like sylva and Cherokee are just a skip away, but jfc the tourism here is atrocious and the rent is insane.
Why not move to Hendersonville? I haven't been up there since 2019 but from what I remember it was still a pretty nice small town full of old people. Right outside of Asheville without all the hastle
I did this for 2 years during covid. Was pretty comfy but had to move back down to GA for family reasons. I hope to come back one day it's hot as hell down here
Just moved to this area from Las Vegas. Couldn't take the city people anymore. I work remotely and enjoy the beautiful woods and nature outings. People here are so much nicer, it's night and day difference.
Very beautiful photo. It is much more beautiful in person. I live in Appalachia, tucked away in the trees. It is nice to have a little island of meadow in an ocean of trees, to be wrapped up and surrounded by lush forest.
Would pursuit of a master's degree at WVU or Bentley be a good way to find a wife? Among the undergrads, of course, not 30+ year old women with a birth control / SSRI history
WVU is full of urban/suburban yankee trash from New Jersey, Philly, and the Beltway. Over half of the students come from out of state. JMU is a better bet for large public schools and you get better PrepHole to boot.
I went to WVU and agree as long as jmu has what you need. Out of every college I visited it had the most baddies
That being said WVU is better than most schools that far north. Does have a lot of Arabs though
I went to WVU and agree as long as jmu has what you need. Out of every college I visited it had the most baddies
That being said WVU is better than most schools that far north. Does have a lot of Arabs though
Thanks anons.
If I may ask, how old are you guys? My experience with JMU alumni is purely from doing business in DC 7 years ago. Very DC cosmopolitan people, less charming than those Old Dominion and W&M alumni that I have met.
I get that JMU is 23% out of state versus WVU's 53%, but Virginia now includes the DMV. It ain't the state it was before the GWOT and the DMV's massive expansion.
I hate how "southern" or "country" is being meshed into one bland culture. I'm Appalachian, not southern. Nowadays every country boy tryhard acts like some amalgamation of texas, southern, northern, and californian country. There weren't any fricking desert cowboys in the mountains you dipshits, and they keep naming kids after Waylon. Like how country music now has the same bland sound no matter where the singer originated.
That would be one of the many effects of hypersocialization. Like C.S Lewis said, souls "eaten" by Hell are digested by becoming all exactly alike.
Thanks anon. What's your take on JMU being less ruralite, more DMV-transplant than places like WVU? I saw charts comparing the two and I can't help shake the feeling that 90% those under 25 from the DMV are just northeast transplants or the children of them.
NGL, half the license plates in HBurg are from NY, NJ, MA, and PA. There are born-and-raised Virginians around though.
Can't say I'm a fan of the NY-NJ people. They get all uppitty about the fact that there are rednecks in and around Harrisonburg.
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That makes sense, thanks anon. Unfortunate but not surprising.
I'm from this county, and I laugh at your loneliness. Although, to be fair, you probably have way fewer joggers than I do, so in that respect, I envy you.
Girlfriend lived there for years and all her friends are still there. It’s our dream-place to move back to once she finishes school. I was born and raised in ENC, and went to school at WCU. Miss the mountains since the coast is becoming increasingly pozzed
Mitchell County anon here. Celo is pretty nice. I sometimes go hiking to the black mountain crest trail via Woody ridge and back for a nice 3hr hike. I mainly do mountain biking as my PrepHole activity but go hunting and fishing with my dad. I think biking is more enjoyable due to the amount of ground you can cover. Going from Old fort to the top of mount Mitchell to big ivy and back down to Old fort is probably the next big ride I want to do. I'm just worried about getting a mechanical and and having to walk 20 miles back home so I will probably go with a friend or atleast give my parents a detailed map of my planned route
I hate how "southern" or "country" is being meshed into one bland culture. I'm Appalachian, not southern. Nowadays every country boy tryhard acts like some amalgamation of texas, southern, northern, and californian country. There weren't any fricking desert cowboys in the mountains you dipshits, and they keep naming kids after Waylon. Like how country music now has the same bland sound no matter where the singer originated.
Just planning a visit. I want to hike to High Rock, a wonderful view outside Whitesburg, Ky but the typical path is quite long and has a lot of elevation gain. I was wondering if you could make a shorter route via the mayking loop trail and then hooking into the pine mountain trail from the east.
The mountains have a prominence of a few thousand feet. You could probably pick a direction and walk in it if you're experienced.
12 months ago
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>just get stuck in the thicket
nah, I'm just wondering if the mayking loop trail is in decent shape enough for my plan to work
I could email the forest service but they've probably never been on it.
12 months ago
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NTA but is it active?
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I'm not 100% sure. It is marked on the interactive visitors map for jefferson national forest but I've seen abandoned trails still on that map, and just because a trail isn't abandoned is no guarantee it is passable.
>I could email the forest service but they've probably never been on it.
Why do you think they have never been on it? You're afraid to go through the thicket but you think you're the only outdoorsman around who's outdoorsy enough to make the trek? The area is extremely densely populated. I hiked a mountain with 7k feet prominence, 5 miles away from the trailhead, in the middle of nowhere New Mexico far from any tourist destinations, and there was a log book at the top where people every week to every other week for years had signed that they were there.
New Mexico is not the East. You will not be getting through dense scrub with no trail.
Because the people who answer emails for the forest service are desk jockeys who don't hike, let alone less popular hikes. It isn't not an especially populated area anyways.
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>I could email the forest service but they've probably never been on it.
Why do you think they have never been on it? You're afraid to go through the thicket but you think you're the only outdoorsman around who's outdoorsy enough to make the trek? The area is extremely densely populated. I hiked a mountain with 7k feet prominence, 5 miles away from the trailhead, in the middle of nowhere New Mexico far from any tourist destinations, and there was a log book at the top where people every week to every other week for years had signed that they were there.
Not that anon but >Is it crowded?
It's the AT. After COVID it's always crowded. Section hiking is popular now too so any area that's anywhere close to a road is packed. >trail name
When I did the AT nobody really spoke to anyone unless they were from Europe. Europeans talk constantly. I also avoided the shelters as much as possible tho. I don't think trail names are a thing anymore because millennials are antisocial. I've hiked on the west coast and the east coast and most people just say hi as you pass. There's always a random old guy that acts weird and wants to talk way too much but you just keep walking. Hot springs are where all the chatty people are.
Tazewell County (and Mercer and Bland, in terms of my regular stomping grounds) reporting in. Typical economically depressed shithole, but still better than McDowell County by a longshot.
The bad part about living rural here--other than that there's nowhere to go except fast food joints, gas stations, Walmarts, and strip joints--is that you can't actually visit all this beautiful PrepHole unless you have the deed to the land, or permission. There's plenty of National Forest, but chunks and sometimes entire tracts of it are parceled out ot private owners.
Also the fishing is trash because it's all anyone ever does here. Local waters are hugely overfished, as well as poorly stocked and managed. When I was a kid we'd come back from every fishing trip with full stringers, but I literally never see that happen anymore. Your options are to hike miles into the middle of nowhere to fish for native wild brook trout, suckers, and minnows, or drive hours away to someplace that doesn't suck.
Washington County but I'm originally from Russell/Wise. I've visited once up there and didn't expect that many Amish. I've looked into houses but don't know of any jobs (welder). All the relevant jobs seem to orbit 81. It's getting expensive down here, fricking sucks. I'd move back towards Wise county but there is NOTHING that isn't a min wage job up there.
Washington County but I'm originally from Russell/Wise. I've visited once up there and didn't expect that many Amish. I've looked into houses but don't know of any jobs (welder). All the relevant jobs seem to orbit 81. It's getting expensive down here, fricking sucks. I'd move back towards Wise county but there is NOTHING that isn't a min wage job up there.
Tazewell County (and Mercer and Bland, in terms of my regular stomping grounds) reporting in. Typical economically depressed shithole, but still better than McDowell County by a longshot.
The bad part about living rural here--other than that there's nowhere to go except fast food joints, gas stations, Walmarts, and strip joints--is that you can't actually visit all this beautiful PrepHole unless you have the deed to the land, or permission. There's plenty of National Forest, but chunks and sometimes entire tracts of it are parceled out ot private owners.
Also the fishing is trash because it's all anyone ever does here. Local waters are hugely overfished, as well as poorly stocked and managed. When I was a kid we'd come back from every fishing trip with full stringers, but I literally never see that happen anymore. Your options are to hike miles into the middle of nowhere to fish for native wild brook trout, suckers, and minnows, or drive hours away to someplace that doesn't suck.
It's cheap to live here, so that's cool.
Is it true that the Amish are buying up all the land for farming?
I have no idea but the second you get out of the big city here you start seeing random amish markets and roadside stores selling furniture and pre-fab sheds. I've also bought produce from women who seem to speak German as their first language multiple times. There's tons of amish in every direction in the mid atlantic, especially in the piedmont and ridge and valley areas.
But um, kinda the whole point of the plateau is that you can't really farm there, not profitably beyond subsistence farming for the most part. There's exceptions, there are some valleys, but there's also a lot of land that isn't arable and is really only used for timbering/mining/mineral extraction.
Every time I think of selling out and moving on I remind myself how of little I need to spend to have a decent quality of life. Came to Bland/Pulaski county to finish my brothers lease when he got deployed with the intent of staying 1 year to honor the lease. That was 17 years ago.
Campbell County native here. Stony Fork is an underrated /out destination. Also love Cumberland Gap SP. These days I usually drive around to the outskirts of GSMNP for new trails to find
East TN checking in. I like it, it's great if you like to be outside. Kayaking and hiking a plenty. Pretty same-y, lots of rolling hills and mountains.
Thanks. I'm writing all these down. I'm going to the Breaks next week, it'll be the first time I'm actually traveling to hike, although it's not too far away. Has anyone ever been? Ill also be stopping in Grundy for some little things and their Walmart made me laugh, never seen anything like that before.
I've been. If you are there and have time, you should do the towers from both directions.
There's the obvious choice, the Towers Overlook in Breaks Interstate Park, which is wonderful, but you can also access it the back way, via the Pine Mountain Trail, parking off of Carson Island Road outside Elkhorn City, on the other side of the river, Russel Fork.
It's probably not an easy hike, I have yet to try it, 8 mi, 1500ft elevation gain (probably a bit more) but you get to see the chimneys from the other side which is a really cool angle. AFAIK you can't get directly on the top of the towers themselves without a rope.
Also, further down Pine Mountain there's Birch Knob, which is mostly a bad dirt road drive to a newish fire tower with an amazing view that is worth it. There's the whole pine mountain trail along that ridge if you are into backpacking.
Also Lilley Cornett Woods (you have to make an appointment) to see really amazing big old growth trees, and Blanton Forest, also old growth, no appointment needed, less impressive trees imho, but there's also a view and some sand caves.
Also not right at breaks but a few hours away is High Knob, Flagpole Knob (adjacent views above ,south, of Norton VA), Devil's Bathtube along a creek, and Little Stony Creek trail that has recently been fix't in the Jefferson National Forest and Bear Rock which is an amazing (short) trail to an overlook above Little Stony Creek where you can see 180 degrees.
>although it's not too far away.
I'm a bit jealous! It's one of the prettiest areas and I hope to get back there soon to hike.
There's tons of stuff to see you will run out of time before stuff. Also great overlooks at Kingdom Come State Park (12 o clock is the main one) and you can drive part of the pine mountain trail but its narrow and winding
found this site somewhat helpful:
https://www.kentuckyhiker.org/hikes/little-shepherd-trail-section-from-kingdom-come-to-us-119-pine-mountain-state-scenic-trail
The Pine Mountain trail is partially a road, partially a trail, in some cases both running parallel and it isn't 100% clear where which is which and where you can park or see views.
I emailed the forest service. They do not know if you can park at the intersection of a forest road and the mayking loop trail to access High Rock on the Pine Mountain Trail
🙁
They said the land is being transferred to the ppl who own the Bad Branch Nature Preserve. So I guess I will reach out them, and maybe someone connected to maintaining the Pine Mountain Trail and see if I can get some answers.
Thanks so much Anon, what I don't have time for I'll keep note of for next time. I love Little Stoney, used to go often when I lived closer to the area.
I've been. If you are there and have time, you should do the towers from both directions.
There's the obvious choice, the Towers Overlook in Breaks Interstate Park, which is wonderful, but you can also access it the back way, via the Pine Mountain Trail, parking off of Carson Island Road outside Elkhorn City, on the other side of the river, Russel Fork.
It's probably not an easy hike, I have yet to try it, 8 mi, 1500ft elevation gain (probably a bit more) but you get to see the chimneys from the other side which is a really cool angle. AFAIK you can't get directly on the top of the towers themselves without a rope.
Also, further down Pine Mountain there's Birch Knob, which is mostly a bad dirt road drive to a newish fire tower with an amazing view that is worth it. There's the whole pine mountain trail along that ridge if you are into backpacking.
Also Lilley Cornett Woods (you have to make an appointment) to see really amazing big old growth trees, and Blanton Forest, also old growth, no appointment needed, less impressive trees imho, but there's also a view and some sand caves.
Also not right at breaks but a few hours away is High Knob, Flagpole Knob (adjacent views above ,south, of Norton VA), Devil's Bathtube along a creek, and Little Stony Creek trail that has recently been fix't in the Jefferson National Forest and Bear Rock which is an amazing (short) trail to an overlook above Little Stony Creek where you can see 180 degrees.
>although it's not too far away.
I'm a bit jealous! It's one of the prettiest areas and I hope to get back there soon to hike.
There's tons of stuff to see you will run out of time before stuff. Also great overlooks at Kingdom Come State Park (12 o clock is the main one) and you can drive part of the pine mountain trail but its narrow and winding
grew up in a very small town in that region. It is a very beautiful region but feels like you're rotting if you never go anywhere else, it is very isolating.
go outside you moronic hill billy
Drive twenty minutes in any direction to the nearest over-urbanized shithole.
This lmao eastoids are delusional
east is nicer, ur the delusional ones
enjoy ur parched desert
Ok bugman
see all that blue space in between the yellow stuff? That's the nice stuff. Still have it in the east.
west is abandoned cuz its unlivably dry and cold/hot/inhospitable.
>west is abandoned cuz its unlivably dry and cold/hot/inhospitable.
Yes.
ok, wasn't planning to visit anyways bro
You would probably die, so that's smart. Many such cases! Every year dumbasses come from the east and die in the Grand Canyon.
Scary map
True?
I'm not but I visit as often as I can cuz it's pretty .
Appalachian Autonomous Region when?
The State of Franklin shall rise again
ive camped and hiked here, but i gotta ask anon, what's it like living there?
Comfy and frustrating. The specific area I live in now is being overrun by rich people wanting to "get away from it all" and now rent went from 300-600 average to 900-1.5k and house prices are about 200k-500k+ now
The locals are decent people, the methheads will leave you alone for the most part, the area itself is beautiful, the history is interesting, my family tree runs deep in the area.
Depends on where you're moving from.
sounds like youre in tri-cities area, do you ever find yourself wishing you lived in a bigger place like knoxville
Close and god no, the big three cities of Tennessee seem like total shitholes
No offense anon but every kentuckian I've met seems deeply inbred
It's funny how there's a big difference between the average people fauna from each state while to an outsider we all just seem like hicks.
>the big three cities of Tennessee seem like total shitholes
Out of the three, Knoxville is easily the best. Just avoid anything south of Maryville, or north and east of downtown inside the bypass, or anything in the vicinity of Pigeon Forge, or...
>the big three cities of Tennessee seem like total shitholes
I've lived in Knoxville for 38 years and I can confirm it is a fricking shithole. The other big cities are worse, however. Nashville is a bigger, nastier, more crowded and more homeless-filled version of Knoxville. And Chattanooga and Memphis are hitting Atlanta-levels of Black person saturation. Tennessee is cool but dear God don't move to a city.
tri cities area reporting, awesome place, but frick these old florida rich people. probably be moving a little outside tri cities soon cause everythings ungodly overpriced, like run down historic home 300,000$ +
How the frick is everything so expensive there yet every time I visit, all see are old or run down houses and tweakers in every shopping center?
people who want to get away from it all but still want to go to target and publix without black people. it sucks but its what happens to all growing cities, soon it will be indistinguishable from knoxville, hell I grew up in knox and its become basically how knox was 20years ago
That's not great
Funny gif, very amuse
I've got deep roots down South and I don't see a lot of rich ppl moving where I live, but the cities are growing. They keep developing and expanding outwards, but a lot of places up in the hills are pretty darn remote. I think they mostly go to the cities like Nashville and Knoxville and places like that.
>Knoxville
The DOE is up there in the hills, Oak Ridge National Laboratory, they do nuclear research and are now home to the most powerful computer on planet Earth which is pretty neat. So you have government employees up there, not just private industry.
They just increased our property taxes because of these bastards driving up housing cost.
I've been priced out of the area I'm currently renting in despite being middle class for the area. They really want the dirty low class tradies to live in run down trailers on the outskirts of town, frick this place.
There's some single wide cans renting for over a $1k here and we're pretty rural
>The specific area I live in now is being overrun by rich people wanting to "get away from it all" and now rent went from 300-600 average to 900-1.5k and house prices are about 200k-500k+ now
Hurts. I have family all around SW Virginia and I got to watch once affordable houses skyrocket the past few years right when I needed to move back to help out.
I just hope some of them get tired of living rural and decide to sell soon. Fricking tired.
Yeah it's all demand side and not that the federal reserve just printed $22T over a seasonal flu and a war with russian kansas
Over a million illegals are crossing the border every year, over a million migrate legally, and banks now offer 40 year mortgages. Housing prices are going up and up until a major crash in a decade or so (when 3rd world GDP is sufficient enough that the amount of immigration influx subsides, cooling demand for new housing and driving prices down)
im moving to this area (the tennessee portion) in about a year, can i post?
No season or bag limit on coyotes in WV
Same with hogs down here in the Deep South
This isn't as remote as you think
It's totally remote. Just ignore that a major city of two million people is ten miles up the road.
It's rural tho!!
>major city of two million people is ten miles up the road
No idea what you're talking about. Did I circle too much of TN? Knoxville is over two hours away from me.
prolly means charlotte on the bottom part of the map
Oh, Charlotte is 3 hours from me. What a crazy city.
I thought Charlotte was Cherokee for shithole
He probably means the fact that there's literally roads everywhere in every direction despite the hills - oh you gotta go 3 miles extra to hit that road..
Living so far up a mountainous canyon in the Southwest that not only are there no roads to 'go through' over the mountains but you're so far from even a gas station that people would have to make a special trip just to go your direction - that's remote. Here's a 2 1/2 drive to the nearest Walmart in a low pop town
Yeah, I can understand that. Looking at the maps of the west coast is freaky to me, yall got like five roads in the whole state in some places. I'd love to visit, I'm such a moron I didn't realize the blue ridge mountains were special and that not all mountains are foggy looking.
It's a different kind of remote, i'll give you that. In the west a lot of places you can see someone coming from miles, the hills out east make for a more enclosed-feeling remoteness practically everywhere. There's neighbors a mile away but it doesn't feel that way because there's hills inbetween.
Will never understand white guys that want to live in a desert. Do you hate your ancestors?
lmao the whole region is literally a wasteland, already scoured over by logging and mining companies 200 years ago
Pikeville reporting. Still a shithole.
Over and out
Actual shit hole Eastern Kentucky here,
we think of Pikeville as the Louisville of EKY.
I am outside the circle and I'm posting.
That looks super familiar. Where was this picture taken?
nvm that's flag rock, I recognize it now
unless there's another flag rock, no it isn't
That's the gorge between Iron Gate and Clifton Forge, right?
I'll bite. Joppenbergh Mountain?
I got outta Greeneville years ago, but damn do I hate Florida now. I miss the mountains now bros, appreciate them while you can.
what was living in greeneville like? im floridabro looking to move to wholesome christian area that's not totally sticks and i've come across it in my research
Eh, it's pretty fair cost of living. You can catch places for sale actually on Greene mountain, but that's going away as more and more people are looking for that smoky mountain getaway feel.
It's very heavily Christian, dozens of little country churches to choose from.
You'll probably appreciate that they just got a Publix.
Florida is spreading its culture across state lines lmao. Thanks, I was originally considering east KY but its kinda too rundown, central KY I've enjoyed, West NC seems like its got the same problems as east TN but with way more NYCers, I'm in my late 20s and unmarried and I think I gotta move closer to Knoxville or Tri-Cities cause in a small town as a transplant I'll reckon i won't find a wife (let alone employment lol)
Florida “culture” is just southern redneck culture, it has nothing homegrown as no one lived there until 1900 because the Indians kept murdering everyone. There’s a reason north Florida and south Florida are entirely different.
>You'll probably appreciate that they just got a Publix.
Bro, corn nuggets.
All I gotta say bro, corn nuggets.
tf are corn nuggets
West KY here, you boys are homosexuals and you can't swim
Mercer West Virginia here.
nicholas county here
Kewl shades bro
Sevier County here
Tell Dolly Parton her breasts cured my pill addiction
i hate boone i hate boone i hate boone
I can't believe how many Florida people moved there. Whenever I'm in the area and talk to people they always moved up from Florida.
No anon! There's racists here, and they won't let trans women use the female bathroom.
FL Anon here, are they actually from Florida or are they yankees who moved to Florida and have now left (serves them right, yankee trash)?
Moved further north in WV than this area. I was a native Floridian. Born and raised, and the Yankee scum priced me out of affording so much as a shack.
I like it better here. Almost no Black folk, almost no Central/South American trash (Cubans and some Mexicans are okay), no frickin' NYC or Boston buttholes.
agree, high country area is really beautiful, but boone specifically is shit, tiny ass roads and everyones driving a cummins 350 cum guzzler, its gonna end up being an even shittier gatlinburg, if not already
its definitely disproportionately florida, ofcource you got the Californians but they go to the MCmansions while floridians arnt as rich so they buy up the mid class properties and jack up the price
Roan mountain is definitely the most picturesque but its fairly popular, depending on what you consider popular. my personal favorites are, emerald forest, beauty spot, and laural falls, and wautuga wilderness/lake if you got a kayak, this is all eastTN though so I go to these spots alot since they are close, I've heard good things about silva and that mountain
Boone was ok 20 years ago but the yuppies have took over. I did see an Asian guy crash his bike while I was sitting at an intersection on my way into pisgah last weekend. Gave me something to chuckle about for the rest of my ride.
But they got the two story Wendy's
Do burgers really
>boone
I almost moved to Boone to complete my bachelor's and chose Asheville instead. I'm happy with the choice but now I'm in my own personal hell.
At least places like sylva and Cherokee are just a skip away, but jfc the tourism here is atrocious and the rent is insane.
Why not move to Hendersonville? I haven't been up there since 2019 but from what I remember it was still a pretty nice small town full of old people. Right outside of Asheville without all the hastle
Asheville is way too expensive. Live somewhere close by and just drive 30 minutes when you want to enjoy what it has to offer.
Wilkes County is comfy tbh.
oh sweet that looks like cheap land. my silicon valley job just approved my remote work so I’m already planning to move away. see you soon fren!
I did this for 2 years during covid. Was pretty comfy but had to move back down to GA for family reasons. I hope to come back one day it's hot as hell down here
What do you guys do in West Virginia (not to be confused with West Virginia)?
Pulaski County reporting in
Same
Just moved to this area from Las Vegas. Couldn't take the city people anymore. I work remotely and enjoy the beautiful woods and nature outings. People here are so much nicer, it's night and day difference.
Moved last year. Pic is my family farm house
Very beautiful photo. It is much more beautiful in person. I live in Appalachia, tucked away in the trees. It is nice to have a little island of meadow in an ocean of trees, to be wrapped up and surrounded by lush forest.
Cumberland Gap, last week.
828 represent (living that 336 life atm)
Whitley reporting
Would pursuit of a master's degree at WVU or Bentley be a good way to find a wife? Among the undergrads, of course, not 30+ year old women with a birth control / SSRI history
WVU is full of urban/suburban yankee trash from New Jersey, Philly, and the Beltway. Over half of the students come from out of state. JMU is a better bet for large public schools and you get better PrepHole to boot.
I went to WVU and agree as long as jmu has what you need. Out of every college I visited it had the most baddies
That being said WVU is better than most schools that far north. Does have a lot of Arabs though
Thanks anons.
If I may ask, how old are you guys? My experience with JMU alumni is purely from doing business in DC 7 years ago. Very DC cosmopolitan people, less charming than those Old Dominion and W&M alumni that I have met.
I get that JMU is 23% out of state versus WVU's 53%, but Virginia now includes the DMV. It ain't the state it was before the GWOT and the DMV's massive expansion.
NTA, but I'm a JMU Geology grad. Going on 30 now.
That would be one of the many effects of hypersocialization. Like C.S Lewis said, souls "eaten" by Hell are digested by becoming all exactly alike.
> JMU ~2015.
Thanks anon. What's your take on JMU being less ruralite, more DMV-transplant than places like WVU? I saw charts comparing the two and I can't help shake the feeling that 90% those under 25 from the DMV are just northeast transplants or the children of them.
NGL, half the license plates in HBurg are from NY, NJ, MA, and PA. There are born-and-raised Virginians around though.
Can't say I'm a fan of the NY-NJ people. They get all uppitty about the fact that there are rednecks in and around Harrisonburg.
That makes sense, thanks anon. Unfortunate but not surprising.
Amusing photo
I'm from this county, and I laugh at your loneliness. Although, to be fair, you probably have way fewer joggers than I do, so in that respect, I envy you.
eww georgia gtfo, also any one notice that all white people from georgia look and smell the same? its a little spooky
>t. geographically moronic
oh lmao, I am retarted but dont call me geographically, you ok carolina homie
but my point of georgia still stands, hate that place
You hiked the foothills trail?
Was hiking Cumberlands the other day. What’s up man?
Howdy fellas
The carnival will be in town soon enough : )
south mtns reporting in
Went to christiansburg high school. Class of 2011
I'm from Pittsylvania County, only 3 over. Do I count?
Celo NC here.
Girlfriend lived there for years and all her friends are still there. It’s our dream-place to move back to once she finishes school. I was born and raised in ENC, and went to school at WCU. Miss the mountains since the coast is becoming increasingly pozzed
Mitchell County anon here. Celo is pretty nice. I sometimes go hiking to the black mountain crest trail via Woody ridge and back for a nice 3hr hike. I mainly do mountain biking as my PrepHole activity but go hunting and fishing with my dad. I think biking is more enjoyable due to the amount of ground you can cover. Going from Old fort to the top of mount Mitchell to big ivy and back down to Old fort is probably the next big ride I want to do. I'm just worried about getting a mechanical and and having to walk 20 miles back home so I will probably go with a friend or atleast give my parents a detailed map of my planned route
If you don’t live somewhere overrun by Black folk, Mosquitos and full of swamps then you don’t like in the South, you live in Little Inbred Ireland.
I hate how "southern" or "country" is being meshed into one bland culture. I'm Appalachian, not southern. Nowadays every country boy tryhard acts like some amalgamation of texas, southern, northern, and californian country. There weren't any fricking desert cowboys in the mountains you dipshits, and they keep naming kids after Waylon. Like how country music now has the same bland sound no matter where the singer originated.
Has anyone here hiked around Pine Mountain?
No
it's in the red circle
I'm wondering if somebody is familiar with the area around bad branch, ky
No
Not familiar with it but I might make myself a trip up there, the pictures online look cool. Are you from inside the circle or just planning a visit?
Just planning a visit. I want to hike to High Rock, a wonderful view outside Whitesburg, Ky but the typical path is quite long and has a lot of elevation gain. I was wondering if you could make a shorter route via the mayking loop trail and then hooking into the pine mountain trail from the east.
The mountains have a prominence of a few thousand feet. You could probably pick a direction and walk in it if you're experienced.
>just get stuck in the thicket
nah, I'm just wondering if the mayking loop trail is in decent shape enough for my plan to work
I could email the forest service but they've probably never been on it.
NTA but is it active?
I'm not 100% sure. It is marked on the interactive visitors map for jefferson national forest but I've seen abandoned trails still on that map, and just because a trail isn't abandoned is no guarantee it is passable.
New Mexico is not the East. You will not be getting through dense scrub with no trail.
Because the people who answer emails for the forest service are desk jockeys who don't hike, let alone less popular hikes. It isn't not an especially populated area anyways.
>I could email the forest service but they've probably never been on it.
Why do you think they have never been on it? You're afraid to go through the thicket but you think you're the only outdoorsman around who's outdoorsy enough to make the trek? The area is extremely densely populated. I hiked a mountain with 7k feet prominence, 5 miles away from the trailhead, in the middle of nowhere New Mexico far from any tourist destinations, and there was a log book at the top where people every week to every other week for years had signed that they were there.
Ticks? Unfamiliar personally
Good area? Never been personally
yeah, one of my favorite - the part north/west of I-81 anyways up on the plateau
Nice
I’m not from those counties but I’m in them rn on the AT
I started 3 weeks ago and am almost to the VA line
Ask me anything
Any ticks?
Is it crowded? Has anyone asked your trail name? Got any pictures?
Not that anon but
>Is it crowded?
It's the AT. After COVID it's always crowded. Section hiking is popular now too so any area that's anywhere close to a road is packed.
>trail name
When I did the AT nobody really spoke to anyone unless they were from Europe. Europeans talk constantly. I also avoided the shelters as much as possible tho. I don't think trail names are a thing anymore because millennials are antisocial. I've hiked on the west coast and the east coast and most people just say hi as you pass. There's always a random old guy that acts weird and wants to talk way too much but you just keep walking. Hot springs are where all the chatty people are.
NTA but what hot springs do you recommend there?
How tight is your bussy?
v-very
w-why do you a-ask?
Are you safe?
Im from those counties and also started the AT in early May. Are you the fricker that keeps writing greentext comments on FarOut?
nope
literally none to my surprise
every day but I wont expose myself
never
Trying to start shit?
the winters make me want to kill myself. the sun goes behind the hill at like 2:30 during the worst weeks
Basado thread
wv most underrated state
True?
absolutely
Do you guys have drinking water yet or are the mines still poisoning the aquifers?
dead smack center of you cir. excellent place to get lost. just its changing now. transplants more mental patients moving is.
NTA but can you share more?
Claiborne county reporting in. We should do a meetup in Sneedville
Tazewell County (and Mercer and Bland, in terms of my regular stomping grounds) reporting in. Typical economically depressed shithole, but still better than McDowell County by a longshot.
The bad part about living rural here--other than that there's nowhere to go except fast food joints, gas stations, Walmarts, and strip joints--is that you can't actually visit all this beautiful PrepHole unless you have the deed to the land, or permission. There's plenty of National Forest, but chunks and sometimes entire tracts of it are parceled out ot private owners.
Also the fishing is trash because it's all anyone ever does here. Local waters are hugely overfished, as well as poorly stocked and managed. When I was a kid we'd come back from every fishing trip with full stringers, but I literally never see that happen anymore. Your options are to hike miles into the middle of nowhere to fish for native wild brook trout, suckers, and minnows, or drive hours away to someplace that doesn't suck.
It's cheap to live here, so that's cool.
Washington County but I'm originally from Russell/Wise. I've visited once up there and didn't expect that many Amish. I've looked into houses but don't know of any jobs (welder). All the relevant jobs seem to orbit 81. It's getting expensive down here, fricking sucks. I'd move back towards Wise county but there is NOTHING that isn't a min wage job up there.
I like russell/wise
was just there a few months ago
im not sure if flag rock/bear rock are specifically in those counties, but i know they are nearby
Is it true that the Amish are buying up all the land for farming?
I have no idea but the second you get out of the big city here you start seeing random amish markets and roadside stores selling furniture and pre-fab sheds. I've also bought produce from women who seem to speak German as their first language multiple times. There's tons of amish in every direction in the mid atlantic, especially in the piedmont and ridge and valley areas.
But um, kinda the whole point of the plateau is that you can't really farm there, not profitably beyond subsistence farming for the most part. There's exceptions, there are some valleys, but there's also a lot of land that isn't arable and is really only used for timbering/mining/mineral extraction.
Jonesborough chad checking in
mu homie, erwin here, I used to live closer to jonesborough, miss the free train shots at Tennessee hills
Many good points
Every time I think of selling out and moving on I remind myself how of little I need to spend to have a decent quality of life. Came to Bland/Pulaski county to finish my brothers lease when he got deployed with the intent of staying 1 year to honor the lease. That was 17 years ago.
Campbell County native here. Stony Fork is an underrated /out destination. Also love Cumberland Gap SP. These days I usually drive around to the outskirts of GSMNP for new trails to find
East TN checking in. I like it, it's great if you like to be outside. Kayaking and hiking a plenty. Pretty same-y, lots of rolling hills and mountains.
Where were these photos taken?
The first was taken at Max Patch and the second is from grandfather mountain. 2nd is upside down because I have a mental disability
Bumping cause not this area gets overlooked/made fun of constantly
i've always looked at this place on a map and thought that it must be the loneliest place to be in america
Nah, that would be large cities like NYC, LA, and Miami if you're single and without any friends
This anon is correct. Alone is nature results in a different hormonal response than alone in a city.
Yeah, kinda. Super rural for the most part, but there are tight knit communities, especially if you are religious or political (like anywhere else)
My old man just moved to Wilkes County with his fiancee, does that count?
More bumping for this beautiful part of the country
Basado y rojopistillado
Laurel Falls
No they are called yanny falls
Missed me be 3 counties moronic homosexual
Who /Yancey/ county here
I guess Wayne county WV was to far north.
I passed by there a few weeks ago on a out of state road trip.
Where's that? Did you enjoy yourself?
looks like sandstone falls near hinton,wv
Thanks. I'm writing all these down. I'm going to the Breaks next week, it'll be the first time I'm actually traveling to hike, although it's not too far away. Has anyone ever been? Ill also be stopping in Grundy for some little things and their Walmart made me laugh, never seen anything like that before.
I've been. If you are there and have time, you should do the towers from both directions.
There's the obvious choice, the Towers Overlook in Breaks Interstate Park, which is wonderful, but you can also access it the back way, via the Pine Mountain Trail, parking off of Carson Island Road outside Elkhorn City, on the other side of the river, Russel Fork.
https://www.alltrails.com/explore/map/pine-mountain-trail-birch-knob-section-ef48e3e
It's probably not an easy hike, I have yet to try it, 8 mi, 1500ft elevation gain (probably a bit more) but you get to see the chimneys from the other side which is a really cool angle. AFAIK you can't get directly on the top of the towers themselves without a rope.
Also, further down Pine Mountain there's Birch Knob, which is mostly a bad dirt road drive to a newish fire tower with an amazing view that is worth it. There's the whole pine mountain trail along that ridge if you are into backpacking.
Also Lilley Cornett Woods (you have to make an appointment) to see really amazing big old growth trees, and Blanton Forest, also old growth, no appointment needed, less impressive trees imho, but there's also a view and some sand caves.
Also not right at breaks but a few hours away is High Knob, Flagpole Knob (adjacent views above ,south, of Norton VA), Devil's Bathtube along a creek, and Little Stony Creek trail that has recently been fix't in the Jefferson National Forest and Bear Rock which is an amazing (short) trail to an overlook above Little Stony Creek where you can see 180 degrees.
>although it's not too far away.
I'm a bit jealous! It's one of the prettiest areas and I hope to get back there soon to hike.
There's tons of stuff to see you will run out of time before stuff. Also great overlooks at Kingdom Come State Park (12 o clock is the main one) and you can drive part of the pine mountain trail but its narrow and winding
NTA but thanks for this. Helpful
found this site somewhat helpful:
https://www.kentuckyhiker.org/hikes/little-shepherd-trail-section-from-kingdom-come-to-us-119-pine-mountain-state-scenic-trail
The Pine Mountain trail is partially a road, partially a trail, in some cases both running parallel and it isn't 100% clear where which is which and where you can park or see views.
Beautiful! Glad you got to visit!
more TN/NC pic. Carvers gap in late fall, very pretty and great temps outside. Cold at night though.
I emailed the forest service. They do not know if you can park at the intersection of a forest road and the mayking loop trail to access High Rock on the Pine Mountain Trail
🙁
They said the land is being transferred to the ppl who own the Bad Branch Nature Preserve. So I guess I will reach out them, and maybe someone connected to maintaining the Pine Mountain Trail and see if I can get some answers.
Thanks so much Anon, what I don't have time for I'll keep note of for next time. I love Little Stoney, used to go often when I lived closer to the area.
Whoops
they fixed the trail just a few months ago, it had had a major washout for a few years and was officially closed for much of it
nobody lives here
go away
that's not true
true??
Sup b***hes, did 20 miles barefoot today in God's country
Beautiful anon
Ever step on anything nasty?
Dayton/cleveland area checking in. Need to find other likeminded people interested in outdoors and homesteading.
Isn't your area dense and diverse?
SOVL
For people who live in this part of the country, what is your vocation?
>t. Suburban IT professional in Raleigh
You soulless fricking ant get out of my entire planet
>jealous of the 2 hour wfh workday
Nothing is better than IT for living rurally and still making money while doing absolutely as little as possible to do it.
Your words have zero value, soulless frickstick.
Reagan killed the family farm in the 80s, sweatie. Nixon killed the dollar in 71. Scam or be scammed, moron.
You are a coward
I always wonder how people in ultra-rural areas work/make money.
grew up in a very small town in that region. It is a very beautiful region but feels like you're rotting if you never go anywhere else, it is very isolating.
w-which town?
My county is on the red line in Kentucky, where are you at fren?