Lol my favorite thing to do when I worked at a gun store was to just tell boomers all the American legacy brands they talk up all the time are now almost entirely manufactured and owned by overseas companies
>Lol my favorite thing to do when I worked at a gun store was to just tell boomers all the American legacy brands they talk up all the time are now almost entirely manufactured and owned by overseas companies
Are any of FN’s (American market) guns made in Belgium anymore? I was hoping to buy an FNX45 to fill the Belgium-sized hole in my European firearms collection, but apparently they’re all made in South Carolina.
No issues with it so far? Everything I've heard and seen makes me want to buy one for winter carry. I've held them multiple times but haven't shot one yet. The price is incredibly tempting too.
Try finding reviews and articles discussing the negatives instead. Let me know when you do, because I can't find any
It had a lot of issues with the magazines. Merely shooting it could cause the base plate to pop out and all the rounds to dump out. Has this been fixed yet? I watched like 4 or 5 different reviews and they ALL had this problem and that's with likely cherry picked guns sent to these reviewers, so it is clearly a severe flaw.
No it didn't. Dumb Black folk at Springfield simply put the extended baseplates on wrong. The mags work fine; you just need to be white when you assemble them.
No issues with it so far? Everything I've heard and seen makes me want to buy one for winter carry. I've held them multiple times but haven't shot one yet. The price is incredibly tempting too.
No issues. It's fantastic and shoots better than my ported 34.
The installation of the extended base plate is kinda fricky and a lot of people got it wrong, factory workers assembling them included. Flush base plate doesn't have this issue tho
Just dropping by to say frick Springfield armory. They had to rip the name from the original 20th century company because they know no one would buy their rebranded third world guns from a literal who company.
They used to import stuff like FALs and G3s, I wish they’d do that again. Although I suppose the foreign manufacturers can just make their own American subsidiaries and import the guns themselves, like what IWI and FB Radom do.
HS Produkt needs to cut out the middle man or go with an importer that isn't gay and full of aids.
>hellion >hellcat >echelon >grip zone
For frick's sake.
Agreed, but the average gun owner in this country loves that shit.
I know it’s sort of irrational but I hate companies that do this. Rock Island Arsenal, Henry, Sharps, none of them have any lineage from the original company they’re named after. Hell, there was even a Harper’s Ferry company making ARs or something but it must’ve been short lived because I can’t find any trace of them on the web. Springfield pisses me off the most because they just import guns from other companies overseas and slap their own cringy branding on them. I’m pretty sure even their 1911s are made by IMBEL in Brazil, or at least they used to be.
But I would want It in compact, i like compacts.
Honest question: why do people, especially in the armed forces, go for the full lenght thing? End of the day you can hit someone as good with a compact a 20 meters.
The Echelon is more or less a full size Hellcat.
And they go for a full size because there's literally no reason not to. A full size is superior by every metric except concealability and the military and police aren't concealing their guns so that doesn't matter.
>The Croats still havent made one in 7.62x25
Sad!
preach brother
I wonder how many boomers think that is an American gun
Lol my favorite thing to do when I worked at a gun store was to just tell boomers all the American legacy brands they talk up all the time are now almost entirely manufactured and owned by overseas companies
haha epic win
>Lol my favorite thing to do when I worked at a gun store was to just tell boomers all the American legacy brands they talk up all the time are now almost entirely manufactured and owned by overseas companies
Yeah sure Sonny heheh now go on back to yer Fortnitw.
and now european brands are almost entirely manufactured in the US
>glock
>made in georgia
Are any of FN’s (American market) guns made in Belgium anymore? I was hoping to buy an FNX45 to fill the Belgium-sized hole in my European firearms collection, but apparently they’re all made in South Carolina.
That's strictly due to import bullshit.
I fricking LOVE my Echelon. Likely my favorite fullsize.
No issues with it so far? Everything I've heard and seen makes me want to buy one for winter carry. I've held them multiple times but haven't shot one yet. The price is incredibly tempting too.
It had a lot of issues with the magazines. Merely shooting it could cause the base plate to pop out and all the rounds to dump out. Has this been fixed yet? I watched like 4 or 5 different reviews and they ALL had this problem and that's with likely cherry picked guns sent to these reviewers, so it is clearly a severe flaw.
there are 0 issues with the magazines
people literally just installed the baseplate wrong
>It had a lot of issues with the magazines
No it didn't. Dumb Black folk at Springfield simply put the extended baseplates on wrong. The mags work fine; you just need to be white when you assemble them.
No issues. It's fantastic and shoots better than my ported 34.
The installation of the extended base plate is kinda fricky and a lot of people got it wrong, factory workers assembling them included. Flush base plate doesn't have this issue tho
Still does nothing better than a glock
It's literally a Glock with unnecessary aesthetic CNC slide work.
If only it were a soulless brick instead
Does it take glock mags? Czhechmate idiot.
>Glock
SIG disassembly though?
Serialized FCG morons. Nice to have the modularity of the P320 without the risk of it shooting you.
Ah yes, serialized FCU so I can swap it out for the myriad of slides, barrels, and frame sizes that springshi- oh wait.
It's more reliable for one, and with way better ergos.
Keep seeing ads for that thing, any good?
Try finding reviews and articles discussing the negatives instead. Let me know when you do, because I can't find any
I don't own any Springfields or Remingtons and that isn't a coincidence.
*Tough guy truck voice*
>New frum SpringFeeld Armory. Never the victim. . . Always the Victor.
Just dropping by to say frick Springfield armory. They had to rip the name from the original 20th century company because they know no one would buy their rebranded third world guns from a literal who company.
At least they import cool shit?
HS Produkt needs to cut out the middle man or go with an importer that isn't gay and full of aids.
>hellion
>hellcat
>echelon
>grip zone
For frick's sake.
Don’t be talking about my baby anon, I tried half a dozen other brands before landing on this beauty
What do you shoot, b***h?
>get coolfire trainer with laser attachment for my BASEDcat
>plink inside living room/bedroom/garage
U jelly homosexual? I’d have you meeting Jesus before you could fish your Gluck out of your fat wrinkly fupa.
They used to import stuff like FALs and G3s, I wish they’d do that again. Although I suppose the foreign manufacturers can just make their own American subsidiaries and import the guns themselves, like what IWI and FB Radom do.
Agreed, but the average gun owner in this country loves that shit.
I know it’s sort of irrational but I hate companies that do this. Rock Island Arsenal, Henry, Sharps, none of them have any lineage from the original company they’re named after. Hell, there was even a Harper’s Ferry company making ARs or something but it must’ve been short lived because I can’t find any trace of them on the web. Springfield pisses me off the most because they just import guns from other companies overseas and slap their own cringy branding on them. I’m pretty sure even their 1911s are made by IMBEL in Brazil, or at least they used to be.
How the frick do you expect me to hold it if it doesn't even have a Grip Zone???
I love my Croatian handguns, even my XDm's. Still need to pick up the Echelon.
>it’s now gun of the year.
Springfield just paid NRA the most money that's all there is to it. Good gun tho!
the XD and Hellcat just feels natural in my hands
Stop importing Black folk you Dumbo croat.
You genocided my fricking people for the Land and now you give It to Black folk. I am beyond angry
I am very curious about this gun.
But I would want It in compact, i like compacts.
Honest question: why do people, especially in the armed forces, go for the full lenght thing? End of the day you can hit someone as good with a compact a 20 meters.
The Echelon is more or less a full size Hellcat.
And they go for a full size because there's literally no reason not to. A full size is superior by every metric except concealability and the military and police aren't concealing their guns so that doesn't matter.