would you buy one if they became available in the US?
I dont care about their history, ive always wanted one and I hope somebody buys the patent and starts making them here
would you buy one if they became available in the US?
would you buy one if they became available in the US?
I dont care about their history, ive always wanted one and I hope somebody buys the patent and starts making them here
Probably just so I could shit on it and make brits seethe that they can't own one while I talk about how bad it is.
Why would we want to own a bad rifle?
What an empty life you have.
I'm not a poor Brit so it's not a big investment.
That's not the point I'm trying to make.
Oh God ! warriorturd is out of his cage. This is a Code Red ! Get your children to the safe room, Wives will reload the rifles. Form the wagons into a circle and do not stop firing into the body until the spinal cord is clearly severed.
Do you think about warriortard as soon as you wake up?
>after warriortard posted for another 12 hours he asks if someone is obsessed with him
Schizo levels of self awareness.
Unhinged
The new versions are fine apparently and it looks really fricking cool.
when I read posts like this I picture my autistic American brother in law who can't get guns after he got 5150'd after locking himself crying in his dad's room with a shotgun. Sad to be an American who is perpetually coping with airsoft while a brit creampies his sister and constantly builds ARs to shoot at the range with his buddies who aren't just words on a discord server
anyway OP yes I would, I have had the pleasure of using the revised L85s and they are good guns with bad ergos. plus the look and muzzle report are just iconic. but then I like guns and shooting them more than being a sperg on the Internet for updoots
Nice fanfic
there aren't any up/down votes to be had here for you bud
That's funny, considering you make up stories for attention.
further evidence in support of the "Gen z Americans are perpetually seething" argument. we never got this kind of insecurity in the gwot era
You’re a weird guy and had to move to America to own guns.
Yeah even though I’m wrong handed
i find the l85a3 oddly aesthetic so if that was available, i would
Same. It's why I bought a KelTec instead of Tavor/Steyr.
If parts kits come into the country? Maybe, if it’s not too expensive.
A repro? Nah.
Not sure you could get an L85 in the US without it being a NFA item. AFAIK there has been no run of dedicated semi-auto L85s. There are L85s convertted to semi only for cadets (a.k.a. L98) but these are just L85s with the selector welded to semi and so I believe the ATF does classify this as an NFA item.
I wonder if you could monke a parts kit with a AR-18 lower. But I remember an american explaining to me that the ATF wouldn't let you import even the non-receiver parts of a single shot cadet rifle because the original gun had a full auto sear even if it had no fricking gas system.
There are between 11 to 13 l85s in the US. Last one that came to market sold for $20000 to a machine gun range in Vegas.
20k? For something that rare? That's like a transferable UZI and a MAC for that. Guess it could be one that's not pre-86 though, which could explain the price. Battlefield Vegas has tons of post '86s like their WASRs.
It was semi only when Battlefield Vegas bought it, don't know if they kept it that way.
Honestly I don't think i'd have any interest in it. It'd have to be really low cost, which we know it wouldn't be.
There is a ugly charm about this rifle. Also isn't this thing just a bullpup AR-18?
>A1
no
i like
Honestly i love the look if it. Beautiful ugly, like the BF-109 E series
Why is it whenever there is a thread or any kind of discussion about the SA80 it is always with a picture of a shitty A1 that noone has seen for over 20 years and never that A3 beauty that is actually in use
Only if it was less than 1500
I don't have a bullpup yet, so maybe if it had the quality fixes and wasn't too expensive compared to similar rifles. I don't really have a strong opinion on it, really.
I held one once, very dense rifle, heavier than it looks.
but hey
>heavy is good, heavy is reliable, if it does not work you can always hit him with it
I would trust my life it it I reckon
Absolutely.
People still buy M16 variants, and those were so bad they literally killed people.
>and those were so bad they literally killed people.
Sounds like the werked
Yes, Cold War charm.
I want an L85A1 and L86A1 because they look cool
They may look cool,but from a practical aspect,some issues.
L86 as a support weapon was magazine fed with 30rds.
Hardly a support weapon.
However,if used correctly,it was very accurate at longer ranges.
L85 was similarly accurate,within its role.
Striking targets out to 700-800m was achievable,with the design enhancing ease of use in built up areas.
Their downfall was being rough around the edges,hence the reputation.
A2 version was much better,overall,particularly with regard to the final build quality.
There was some study I read years ago that concluded the L86, when used correctly (more like a DMR), was considerably more lethal and delivered better suppression on point targets in the 400-800m bracket than the gpmg in the light role. Unfortunately it was always lumbered with the 'crow cannon rep' and never taken seriously or developed doctrinally.
LSW was brought in as a support weapon,not as a Marksman’s rifle.
No doubting it’s accuracy,but for being used as a support weapon the GPMG fulfilled that role very well,hands down.
>would you buy one if they became available in the US?
In 9.3x62? HELL YEAH! FRICK HOG KILLER!
Sure if they aren't overpriced
Honestly yeah, ignoring the "memes" I've always had a soft spot for it
Would, I have a fascination with legendarily bad pieces of military hardware. I've made its my life's goal to try as many firearms, rations, gear, and camos that are widely regarded as awful during their time in service just to see if they're really that bad or if its just a case of soldiers getting beat to shit equipment
there's better AR-18s you can buy
It's shit but I'd get one for the novelty assuming they weren't outrageously expensive.
as a brit it looks ugly as frick solo like in op picture, but oddly aesthetic when gripped by a soldier
Whenever I go on exercise I call mine Molly, the name of the first women I ever loved. The fact she didn't like me back is irrelevant. The steel gets cold on hot days and is good for napping after it's been in the shade for a bit. The balance is much nicer for patroling than the colt carbine I've used. Sling assisted shooting with her is a dream as well. Nice short style is good for when you do the backpack straps with the sling for when you're doing other stuff, conventional would be In the way.
The bolt release is fricking infuriating though, just pull back on the poly itself rather than that fiddly bullshit. Frick the safety catch too, shit design, frick the change leaver placement too, c**ts so stuff as well. Everything else is grand.
Couple autocorrects there on phone, figure it out.
Absolutely, because I am one of the three people who thinks it looks cool.
Only if it was the LSW
Officially denoted as the Light Support Weapon.
Unofficially denoted as the Long Silly Weapon.
>Unofficially denoted as the Long Silly Weapon
It's the fricking Crow Cannon
Hence Para Reg offloaded them quickly to other units in exchange for GPMG and soldiered on as normal.
>Decide to have Light Support Weapon intended as an automatic support weapon
>Produce and use an ultra accurate weapon that is basically a sniper rifle
What did they mean by this?
>special made extra long chassis/forend/handguard (whatever they were going for) to presumably free float the barrel past the gas block
>bipod at the end of it (whatever, cool, keeps it off the barrel)
>attach muzzle device to the extension with a shitty thin strap therefore still making the pressure on the bipod influence where the barrel points
WHY?
I'd buy an A2 to plink with because I'm a man of means and spent 2 grand on a GPU for shits and giggles
Owning a cadet rifle would be fun. I think some of the A1 cadet rifles (that were single shot) are in the British civilian market but the A2 semi-auto 5.56 one will probably just be destroyed when they get replaced.
plus I always loved the look of the carry handle and iron sight set up.
First rifle I ever held or fired. Like the first girl I ever slept with, it isn't the prettiest but it'll always stay close to my heart. Will be sad if the L98A2s all get binned before I can own one.
Maybe as a range toy, but between it being a pain in the arse to re-assemble and it generally being uncomfortable to use I wouldn't make it my only purchase y'know? It does have some interesting features that I like though, the position of the safety being easy to use non-intrusively alongside the bolt hold-open with the release switch is fun. Only if I could find a SUSAT for it though.
probably not, I would play with it if I saw it at a gun shop. It's one of those things I'd tinker with for a few moments. dry fire it, lock the bolt back / wiener it... etc then hand it back and never think twice about it
If it was going for $700 or less I might be tempted. Otherwise, no. I have an AR and an AK which will do the same thing but better.
The Bolivians like them. They got 5,000 of them as a donation from the UK and then ended up liking them so ordered 12,000 more of them.
Everyone that uses them seems pretty fond of them.
For whatever reason, it's only really Americans and the occasional EU member who seethes over them, despite never having even held one.
Yes but I'm a weirdo who likes flawed British military tech. I like their weird flawed cars too.
This is how I feel too
Brit weapons aren't particularly the best at anything (until they are, like the L96 and the No1 Mk3 during WWI), but damn do they always have character
>No1 Mk3
Wasn't the best at anything lmao. It was a functional rifle and that's it. Mauser actions are objectively superior, the 1903, the P14, G98, et cetera.
It was the best at having 10rd magazines while the moron krauts had to Black person rig sheet metal to their mausers that wasn't even mass produced
British stuff is consistently inconsistent in tests but does well in actual combat conditions. I've noticed this trend a lot
Bureaurocrats are the natural predator of the noble man in shed. It stands to reason that they'd end up developing a sort of camouflage over time.
What's next for shedman? Automatic rifled mortar? Vickers gun based top feed grenade machine gun with muzzle mounted optic? Warrior 2 with Leyland L60-II?
>What's next for shedman? Automatic rifled mortar? Vickers gun based top feed grenade machine gun with muzzle mounted optic? Warrior 2 with Leyland L60-II?
Russian boiling vessel
Absolutely I definitely need one to add to my funkop- I mean gun collection.
No, since i'm not American. While i assume a few must exist in the European collecter market, i've never seen one. I'd be willing to buy one, but probably not for the asking price, and it would be located near the end of the line when it comes to future purchases. It's still a piece of shit.
i like the blocky back end
also one of the few guns that is improved aesthetically by putting rails everywhere
I want thr L85A2 pls
Yeah, if they’re under $2500, then probably. I just think they’re neat. I bought an SL-8 for the same flimsy reasoning.