>Would the Philippines be able to fend off a Chinese invasion?
lets put it this way, Russia is the path of least resistance to Chinese expansion and currently even that is too much
Yes, and it's simply a matter of the Chinese navy not being substantial enough to land and supply the necessary forces. The Philippines could easily muster a force of millions, and with the terrain being extraordinarily difficult to maneuver through and each island having to be taken individually, China simply doesn't possess the required capabilities. They also lack any kind of experience, unlike Philippine forces which at least have some from the fighting in the south.
Also, the Chinese marine force is pitifully small, and that's the only force they have with the necessary equipment and training for such an operation. China simply doesn't have the capabilities to invade and occupy the core islands of the Philippines, and even Palawan might prove exceedingly difficult.
Why are your women all insane? Like seriously, I've dated a few and I know people who've married them and it always went down in flames. And I'm talking ones with citizenship already, not mail order brides.
because the sane ones marry the superior Filipino man
joking aside, it's mostly passing-looking women who seizes the opportunity to get rich quick. hell,if you're a rich Flip man you'd attract the same kind of psycho women
By themselves no, but the Philippines and US have had a mutual defense treaty since 1951. An attack on the Philippines is by treaty considered an attack on the US.
>implying America will defend a third world shithole
They're not Korea or Japan who have permanent US bases and cunts who host 10k+ US troops.
They're not even strategically important like Taiwan, at least the latter gives us PC components and the newest smartphone chips.
1950s America probably thought their former colony would be a first world powerhouse in a few decades, if only they knew they wouldn't have signed any treaties.
The US spent 20 years and 1 trillion dollars trying to build a country amongst the worst human beings on the planet. They're presently spending billions more to kill tens of thousands of the second worst human beings on the planet. Go ahead, roll those dice.
They are strategically important though, the Bashi channel which is one of the most crucial waterways for world trade and connects the Philippines to Taiwan that allows they US to establish supply routes from both the south and the north to Taiwan. There is no way the US is just gonna let that fall into the hands of China. This isn't even mentioning its crucial role in the first island chain strategy. If the US lets China take the Philippines not only would they lose face with their pacific allies as losing the Philippines directly threatens Australia and Japan, it would greatly weaken the America's economic and strategic strength in the Pacific and ability to defend Taiwan.
That said yeah it's a fucking third world shithole who's exploiting the situation to outsource their defense to the US, if only it wasn't so geographically important.
Some of the Filipino guards here have shit from all over the place. From M14s to genuine M16A1s, even saw a fucking Lee Enfield I believe one time when visiting family. It just seems like a procure and supply situation
I mean depends on what china wants to do there. If they are going for full genocide, and no outside forces interfere, I'm sure they'll manage to take all of PH eventually, they certainly need wives so they'll probably take all the females below the age of 40 and send them to mainland, then wipe off everything on the islands and resettle there, but that's like a 5-20 year thing. If China just wants to invade and take over the island without wiping off the inhabitants, then they're in for a rude awakening, it'll bleed them.
Not without external help. The bigger concern is whether they can successfully quell rebellions on all 7k+ islands while also batting back US conventional support and having functioning logistics.
>t. Grandfather was at Bataan, Corregidor, and Hunters ROTC the latter of which relied heavily on US submarines
The Philippines has been conquered by 3 countries in different centuries including two countries thousands of miles away.
China for millennia has been the Philippines' neighbor and hasn't invaded them once because why would they? The Philippines is an inferior shithole with inferior people on it, China only requires their absolute subservience which is what they're good at.
>The Philippines has been conquered by 3 countries in different centuries including two countries thousands of miles away.
Lmao China's been conquered throughout the millenias by dozens of powers like a high-mileage hooker. If anyone has experience being a subservient nation, it's China.
those 3 countries were fucking Spain the us and WW2 mobilized imperial Japan who might I remind you also slapped the yellow off your assess Chang. you didn't invade because the last time you tried to get uppity the us sent carriers and you ran away with tails between your legs.
yes
they have no real gear
despite a population of 110+ million their active duty force is only around 100k
even their 'newest' gear is basically budget gimped versions of the real thing
they have no weapon systems of mass quantity
their politicians will simply flee and bail at the first real sign of a shooting war
their generals are mostly corrupt
while their gun laws are pretty lax compared to their more draconian neighbors their population still have to jump through a lot of hoops to own a firearm
they have no oil, steel or any natural resource of value
>110 million population >27 light tanks >200 Gavins >12 FA-50s >two frigates, two corvettes >~40 155mm guns and ~100 105mm ones
How the fuck is a country that big, that disarmed?
And that's AFTER an arms buildup, for instance between 2005 and 2017 they had no jets whatsoever as they retired their F5s, and the surface combatants are newer Korean shit rotated in to replace literal WW2 surplus ships
Thus, there is truth when they say that flips are more fearsome when fighting as guerillas than as regular soldiers. Regimented warfare are beyond the capability of the people of that land, but as jungle fighters--- don't sleep at night if you want to stay alive.
Most of their old jets got fucked after a volcano eruption back when the US still had Clark AFB and they never really recovered from that. As for the navy, the expectation was always that the US would cover their naval needs and thus only invested in small boats. And for everything else, yeah it's just corruption at work.
how the fuck do you run an island nation of 110 million without any real airforce?
fucking Croatia with 3 million people will have a stronger airforce in a few years
no real enemies with air forces aside from the chinks. and they know they can't outspend them so they didn't bother. they did get some brahmos missles from the pajeets but they're few in number
>no real enemies with air forces aside from the chinks
not an excuse
territorial defense precedes over anything
you don't have a country if you can't properly defend it
there is no excuse throughout the philippines' history to not even get f16a/b/c
Their military was too powerful under their dictator's regime (current President's father) so they vowed to gimp them permanently and they only buy them stuff so they wouldn't look like complete poorfags next to the Americans during bilateral exercises.
A powerful Philippine military would end up with a junta, remember it's not just their politicians who are corrupt but their military leadership as well.
Their generals also live in lavish mansions and drive luxury vehicles while your average Philippine enlisted lives in absolute squalor, no different from a slum dweller.
>110 million population >27 light tanks >200 Gavins >12 FA-50s >two frigates, two corvettes >~40 155mm guns and ~100 105mm ones
How the fuck is a country that big, that disarmed?
And that's AFTER an arms buildup, for instance between 2005 and 2017 they had no jets whatsoever as they retired their F5s, and the surface combatants are newer Korean shit rotated in to replace literal WW2 surplus ships
Their army is mostly built to handle insurgent groups like pirates, smugglers, jihadis, and commies. Due to years of of American protection they never bothered to allocate funds and resources for a more larger and competent army to deter outsource foes
Philippine politics are weird. Some love the USA while others absolutely despise it. This is largely due to the Philippines being a rather non-homogeneous with various types of groups and peoples spread all over their many islands.
It was also partly due to trying to kiss up to Beijing but that ship has sailed.
>Philippine politics are weird. Some love the USA while others absolutely despise it.
Philippine politics is simply binary, they love those who bribe them with shekels.
They're the ultimate whores, they will sing to the highest bidder. The ones who "despise" America simply do so because America doesn't give them bribes while China funnels yuan in their offshore coffers.
Even Duterte has direct family relations in the USA.
moron it's the same everywhere, fucking yuros and ragheads "hate" America but can't stop waggling their ass for it's markets and protection. What people hate is America's global policy and the hypocritical American exceptionalism.
I wanted to point out this chink gay shit last thread >taiwan conflict >support assumed
yeah Im sure this is real. its an accurate gauge of the support those nations have.
taiwain getting invaded? >hold on USA >we MAY need your help. but why dont you ask us in a few weeks how we feel?
support ASSUMED
fuck out of here chang >ironic because I fully am ok with chinks taking taiwan
No, a loosely organized militia could probably do it. Now would occupying it be easy? Probably not because pinoys are unbearable under normal circumstances
The Chinks would take over Luzon, Visaya and most of Mindanao. But the Moro insurgents down South is going to BTFO them. Neither Japan or the Spanish managed to take down the Moros. Only the Americans did and it was only temporary before they started their insurgency again.
>most of Mindanao. But the Moro insurgents down South is going to BTFO them. Neither Japan or the Spanish managed to take down the Moros. Only the Americans did and it was only temporary before they started their insurgency again.
Mindanao is the South. China could take parts of the north but not the whole island.
China wants the islands, reefs, and vast swathes of open ocean territory but in order to take it outright, they would possibly need to prevent the Philippines, or any other country from being able to defend or resist Chinese takeover.
He was ordered to despite being told by FDR and Eisenhower telling him that support was on its way. He also had to get talked out of doing a final stand with his men by his staff when he wanted to resign his commission.
pinoy here. no way in hell we're stopping the invasion but we'll make sure to make em bleed for every foot of land they take and be generally a pain in their ass for years.
>Japan
Nooked twice, got Marshall gibs
In response to the Korean War they got WW2 US surplus, officers and enlisted who have the least or no warcrimes became the first JSDF luminaries
Completely rebuilt the economy by the 60s, they're practically back to where they were pre-war
Was already buying top tier high end stuff during this period, they suddenly started in-house military development as part of official clemency in the 70s
>Korea
Got raped by Nips, gommies almost rekt the entire country
They got every WW2 US gibs on par with Lend Lease
They got a dictator who was a US puppet
Said US puppet dictator started making big moron corpo families rich
They were practically all but a turd world shithole until the 90s
They suddenly started in-house military development as early as the 80s but it truly jumpstarted in the 90s, they only started buying top tier high end stuff since a decade ago
>Philippines
Got raped by Nips
Sent a token force in Korea but otherwise was pretty stable domestically
America installed puppet presidents until the 60s, when they were no longer useful they all died in questionable circumstances
They got a dictator who was mad hungry for the state levers of power along with an extremely avaricious wife
Still a turd world shithole today, slightly better 30-40 years ago despite constant historical revisionism and propganda
Can't even buy entry level stuff, relies heavily on US gibs and have been politically and institutionally infiltrated by gommie Chyna
They're just too culturally different and there's too many Islands for insurgents to hide in
>Would the Philippines be able to fend off a Chinese invasion?
lets put it this way, Russia is the path of least resistance to Chinese expansion and currently even that is too much
The dumbest thing I've read all day
You're saying China should invade Russia?
well put my retarded friend
By themselves?
Northern and Central Philippines won't but Southern Philippines will.
lmao no
>t.actual flip
but I'll die trying
Based, give some of them a free helicopter ride for me.
Based fatalist Pino. Aim for the belly/crotch. The PLA is issuing armor now
No what the hell. The Philippines couldn't hold off a decent PMC.
Yes, and it's simply a matter of the Chinese navy not being substantial enough to land and supply the necessary forces. The Philippines could easily muster a force of millions, and with the terrain being extraordinarily difficult to maneuver through and each island having to be taken individually, China simply doesn't possess the required capabilities. They also lack any kind of experience, unlike Philippine forces which at least have some from the fighting in the south.
Also, the Chinese marine force is pitifully small, and that's the only force they have with the necessary equipment and training for such an operation. China simply doesn't have the capabilities to invade and occupy the core islands of the Philippines, and even Palawan might prove exceedingly difficult.
Easy to invade impossible to hold. There's a saying
>Behind every blade of grass in the Philippines is a ladyboy with a gun.
>ladyboy in every blade of grass
That's Thailand.
Although it's nowhere as many as Thailand, the Philippines has trannies too.
That's the USA
>ladyboy
That's Thailand. All we have in the Philippines are annoyingly flamboyant fags.
Why are your women all insane? Like seriously, I've dated a few and I know people who've married them and it always went down in flames. And I'm talking ones with citizenship already, not mail order brides.
because the sane ones marry the superior Filipino man
joking aside, it's mostly passing-looking women who seizes the opportunity to get rich quick. hell,if you're a rich Flip man you'd attract the same kind of psycho women
>Catholic country
Start there.
By themselves no, but the Philippines and US have had a mutual defense treaty since 1951. An attack on the Philippines is by treaty considered an attack on the US.
>implying America will defend a third world shithole
They're not Korea or Japan who have permanent US bases and cunts who host 10k+ US troops.
They're not even strategically important like Taiwan, at least the latter gives us PC components and the newest smartphone chips.
1950s America probably thought their former colony would be a first world powerhouse in a few decades, if only they knew they wouldn't have signed any treaties.
the fuck are you on about
These are only temporary bases, America isn't even allowed to place weapon systems on them.
America has raped and killed too many locals for the Philippines to consider allowing permanent bases again.
Those are Filipino bases. US bases were shutdown in the 90s i think.
Existing Filipino bases that Americans can use but cannot store offensive weapons.
They're basically HADR sites.
The US spent 20 years and 1 trillion dollars trying to build a country amongst the worst human beings on the planet. They're presently spending billions more to kill tens of thousands of the second worst human beings on the planet. Go ahead, roll those dice.
They are strategically important though, the Bashi channel which is one of the most crucial waterways for world trade and connects the Philippines to Taiwan that allows they US to establish supply routes from both the south and the north to Taiwan. There is no way the US is just gonna let that fall into the hands of China. This isn't even mentioning its crucial role in the first island chain strategy. If the US lets China take the Philippines not only would they lose face with their pacific allies as losing the Philippines directly threatens Australia and Japan, it would greatly weaken the America's economic and strategic strength in the Pacific and ability to defend Taiwan.
That said yeah it's a fucking third world shithole who's exploiting the situation to outsource their defense to the US, if only it wasn't so geographically important.
No. But the Chinese hate flips with a passion, they find them far too disgusting to want to invade
good
Invasion? No. I find it unlikely they'll stop landing parties. That said they'll probably make occupation an unmitigated nightmare.
PLA will discover the meaning of "confetti-makers"
Some of the Filipino guards here have shit from all over the place. From M14s to genuine M16A1s, even saw a fucking Lee Enfield I believe one time when visiting family. It just seems like a procure and supply situation
Guy on the right is a Frag round using NOOB!
Why would you invade the Philippines? Their women are psychos.
I mean depends on what china wants to do there. If they are going for full genocide, and no outside forces interfere, I'm sure they'll manage to take all of PH eventually, they certainly need wives so they'll probably take all the females below the age of 40 and send them to mainland, then wipe off everything on the islands and resettle there, but that's like a 5-20 year thing. If China just wants to invade and take over the island without wiping off the inhabitants, then they're in for a rude awakening, it'll bleed them.
Not without external help. The bigger concern is whether they can successfully quell rebellions on all 7k+ islands while also batting back US conventional support and having functioning logistics.
>t. Grandfather was at Bataan, Corregidor, and Hunters ROTC the latter of which relied heavily on US submarines
The Philippines has been conquered by 3 countries in different centuries including two countries thousands of miles away.
China for millennia has been the Philippines' neighbor and hasn't invaded them once because why would they? The Philippines is an inferior shithole with inferior people on it, China only requires their absolute subservience which is what they're good at.
>The Philippines has been conquered by 3 countries in different centuries including two countries thousands of miles away.
Lmao China's been conquered throughout the millenias by dozens of powers like a high-mileage hooker. If anyone has experience being a subservient nation, it's China.
those 3 countries were fucking Spain the us and WW2 mobilized imperial Japan who might I remind you also slapped the yellow off your assess Chang. you didn't invade because the last time you tried to get uppity the us sent carriers and you ran away with tails between your legs.
Actually dunked on the chinks in korean war
How could they not? China was fucked from like 1880-1975
*Sorry, 1840- 1975.
yes
they have no real gear
despite a population of 110+ million their active duty force is only around 100k
even their 'newest' gear is basically budget gimped versions of the real thing
they have no weapon systems of mass quantity
their politicians will simply flee and bail at the first real sign of a shooting war
their generals are mostly corrupt
while their gun laws are pretty lax compared to their more draconian neighbors their population still have to jump through a lot of hoops to own a firearm
they have no oil, steel or any natural resource of value
You weren't kidding
>110 million population
>27 light tanks
>200 Gavins
>12 FA-50s
>two frigates, two corvettes
>~40 155mm guns and ~100 105mm ones
How the fuck is a country that big, that disarmed?
And that's AFTER an arms buildup, for instance between 2005 and 2017 they had no jets whatsoever as they retired their F5s, and the surface combatants are newer Korean shit rotated in to replace literal WW2 surplus ships
Thus, there is truth when they say that flips are more fearsome when fighting as guerillas than as regular soldiers. Regimented warfare are beyond the capability of the people of that land, but as jungle fighters--- don't sleep at night if you want to stay alive.
Most of their old jets got fucked after a volcano eruption back when the US still had Clark AFB and they never really recovered from that. As for the navy, the expectation was always that the US would cover their naval needs and thus only invested in small boats. And for everything else, yeah it's just corruption at work.
>pic
Who's Phil and why does he get to have an air force.
how the fuck do you run an island nation of 110 million without any real airforce?
fucking Croatia with 3 million people will have a stronger airforce in a few years
no real enemies with air forces aside from the chinks. and they know they can't outspend them so they didn't bother. they did get some brahmos missles from the pajeets but they're few in number
>no real enemies with air forces aside from the chinks
not an excuse
territorial defense precedes over anything
you don't have a country if you can't properly defend it
there is no excuse throughout the philippines' history to not even get f16a/b/c
They attempted to but couldn't due to the price tag hence why they just opted for FA-50s.
Philippine Air Force is slightly stronger than the Mexican air force.
Their military was too powerful under their dictator's regime (current President's father) so they vowed to gimp them permanently and they only buy them stuff so they wouldn't look like complete poorfags next to the Americans during bilateral exercises.
A powerful Philippine military would end up with a junta, remember it's not just their politicians who are corrupt but their military leadership as well.
Their generals also live in lavish mansions and drive luxury vehicles while your average Philippine enlisted lives in absolute squalor, no different from a slum dweller.
Their army is mostly built to handle insurgent groups like pirates, smugglers, jihadis, and commies. Due to years of of American protection they never bothered to allocate funds and resources for a more larger and competent army to deter outsource foes
Wow, that makes their "lol fuck America" decade look especially cunning
Philippine politics are weird. Some love the USA while others absolutely despise it. This is largely due to the Philippines being a rather non-homogeneous with various types of groups and peoples spread all over their many islands.
It was also partly due to trying to kiss up to Beijing but that ship has sailed.
>Philippine politics are weird. Some love the USA while others absolutely despise it.
Philippine politics is simply binary, they love those who bribe them with shekels.
They're the ultimate whores, they will sing to the highest bidder. The ones who "despise" America simply do so because America doesn't give them bribes while China funnels yuan in their offshore coffers.
Even Duterte has direct family relations in the USA.
moron it's the same everywhere, fucking yuros and ragheads "hate" America but can't stop waggling their ass for it's markets and protection. What people hate is America's global policy and the hypocritical American exceptionalism.
China won
I wanted to point out this chink gay shit last thread
>taiwan conflict
>support assumed
yeah Im sure this is real. its an accurate gauge of the support those nations have.
taiwain getting invaded?
>hold on USA
>we MAY need your help. but why dont you ask us in a few weeks how we feel?
support ASSUMED
fuck out of here chang
>ironic because I fully am ok with chinks taking taiwan
are you incapable of putting out coherent sentences?
Implessive.
China fears the Filipino police officer
skip to 4:50
yes, but it would be costly, but much more feasible than Taiwan.
Can china project forces that far? And if they have the sealift capability can they protect the ships?
No, a loosely organized militia could probably do it. Now would occupying it be easy? Probably not because pinoys are unbearable under normal circumstances
The Chinks would take over Luzon, Visaya and most of Mindanao. But the Moro insurgents down South is going to BTFO them. Neither Japan or the Spanish managed to take down the Moros. Only the Americans did and it was only temporary before they started their insurgency again.
>most of Mindanao. But the Moro insurgents down South is going to BTFO them. Neither Japan or the Spanish managed to take down the Moros. Only the Americans did and it was only temporary before they started their insurgency again.
Mindanao is the South. China could take parts of the north but not the whole island.
We did kicked their asses back in Korea
why would CHina want to invade philippines?
I'm not talking about islets in the South CHINA Sea, which are taken like every single day by China with little resistance.
China wants the islands, reefs, and vast swathes of open ocean territory but in order to take it outright, they would possibly need to prevent the Philippines, or any other country from being able to defend or resist Chinese takeover.
A landing no, occupation yes. The Philippines would be a island version of Vietnam.
lmao no, there is a reason why macarthur abandoned the philiplines in ww2.
He was ordered to despite being told by FDR and Eisenhower telling him that support was on its way. He also had to get talked out of doing a final stand with his men by his staff when he wanted to resign his commission.
pinoy here. no way in hell we're stopping the invasion but we'll make sure to make em bleed for every foot of land they take and be generally a pain in their ass for years.
Yes because the Chinese aren't capable of even landing troops.
A tale of three US allies
>Japan
Nooked twice, got Marshall gibs
In response to the Korean War they got WW2 US surplus, officers and enlisted who have the least or no warcrimes became the first JSDF luminaries
Completely rebuilt the economy by the 60s, they're practically back to where they were pre-war
Was already buying top tier high end stuff during this period, they suddenly started in-house military development as part of official clemency in the 70s
>Korea
Got raped by Nips, gommies almost rekt the entire country
They got every WW2 US gibs on par with Lend Lease
They got a dictator who was a US puppet
Said US puppet dictator started making big moron corpo families rich
They were practically all but a turd world shithole until the 90s
They suddenly started in-house military development as early as the 80s but it truly jumpstarted in the 90s, they only started buying top tier high end stuff since a decade ago
>Philippines
Got raped by Nips
Sent a token force in Korea but otherwise was pretty stable domestically
America installed puppet presidents until the 60s, when they were no longer useful they all died in questionable circumstances
They got a dictator who was mad hungry for the state levers of power along with an extremely avaricious wife
Still a turd world shithole today, slightly better 30-40 years ago despite constant historical revisionism and propganda
Can't even buy entry level stuff, relies heavily on US gibs and have been politically and institutionally infiltrated by gommie Chyna
Interesting how you glossed over the Philippines as a colony.
>Marcos era
>good
Stupid moron detected.
>they're practically back to where they were pre-war
Pre-ww2 Japan was utter shithole. There was modern industry and cities yes, but the average peon lived like before the Meiji era.
And that average peon was still decades ahead most of the non-western world at the time.
The fuckers can't even kick off the insurgents in their country and you think they can fend off the Changs? Thanks for the laugh