Would it be possible to refit a modern cruise ship for military use? I mean, if it can hold over 200k tons of superstructers, it must be quite sturdy, right?
Would it be possible to refit a modern cruise ship for military use?
Would it be possible to refit a modern cruise ship for military use? I mean, if it can hold over 200k tons of superstructers, it must be quite sturdy, right?
No /thread
Not even as a hospital ship?
No.
>must be quite sturdy, right?
No.
Stupid idea.
(You) used the term "military." The answer is "No." Cruise ships are incredibly fragile and slow. They need to be as far away from a conflict zone as possible. You can just about sink them with a BB gun.
It depends what you want to use it for. As a transport ship?
Absolutely.
For anything else?
Not really. For the same reason humvees exist when civilian cars totally already exist.
>For the same reason humvees exist when civilian cars totally already exist.
because civilian ships are... less resistant to mines? ...and unable to traverse the rough terrain of the open ocean...?
Transport ship? These floating resorts are shoreline runners and island hoppers, they can't handle open ocean. Not to mention they're slow and weak. Press these into military service and the first outboard motor with an AK will sink it.
Bullshit, they're all made to withstand waves of over 15 meters. The queen mary 2 still crosses the Atlantic to this day. The reason why they don't do it is because people wants to see the islands and portual cities and paid good money to not feel seasick all the time
The QM2 is an ocean liner. OP asked about cruise ships, two different kinds of ship.
Ocean liner: can cross oceans.
Cruise ship (what we're talking about): can't cross oceans.
>Cruise ship (what we're talking about): can't cross oceans.
they absolutely can cross the ocean the only problem is that it's uncomfortable for the people on it do to so making it pointless
I'm standing naked beyond the flowers btw
>they absolutely can cross the ocean the only problem is that it's uncomfortable for the people on it do to so making it pointless
Yep, most cruise lines rotate ships between the Caribbean and Med a few times a year.
send a regular cruise ship to your enemies so they all get food poisoning and lose all their money in the shitty casino
Sturdier than you Mohammad
it has no armor and probably very few bulkheads, damage control would be nonexistent. it would probably do best as a hospital ship with a wave pool and bocce ball court
What are you going to do? Put VLS cells on the promenade?
It could grip it by the husk
wouldnt you rather use the hundreds of balconies on the sides to install a mk 9 GLMS for each? the cabins can fit the loading systems for the RAMs. it would be able to launch simultaneously 21 SAMs per cabin, which means a refit royal caribbean carries enough missiles to turn a major city to ash
OK, how do you reload them? this is genius, why didn't the arsenal ship designs put the VLS cells horizontal and on the sides? you should really apply to the NRL, anon
Hell no, they're paper thin money sinks.
No, but the largest cruise ship manufacturer (Fincantieri) uses cruise ship drydocks to build carriers. They're also the ones building the Constellation-class frigates.
There does feel like there's something counterintuitively "wrong" how the largest warship ever made is dwarfed by much larger ships.
And civilian ships are STILL getting bigger whereas the modern prides of the American, British, Chinese, etc. navies are all slightly smaller than 1961's Big E, there's a fricking 250,000 ton cruise ship fitting out in Finland right now to start service next year
Why? The titanic was bigger than any warship of its time, same with the great eastern. Spanish galleons carrying gold from south america to europe were over 300 tons heavy, while the biggest warships hardly reached 200. Nowadays a big ship is just a big target and easily spotted by everything. You don't need a 300 m ship to carry enough missiles to level up a whole coast, and despite their mundane appearance, military ships have never been more powerful.
It has massive open areas and as few bulkheads as possible. Cruise ships are some of the most fragile ships out there.
Not really, it would be very expensive and wasteful.
However cargo ships, like the massive container carriers that are bigger than aircraft carriers could be relatively easily converted in makeshift carriers if needed as they are effectively a big hull with big engines and lots of space. You could also use them as missile ships as already most missile systems are designed to be shipping container sized to be easily transported.
Cargo vessel transformed into missile ship could be as simple as dropping in special containers filled with missiles that can open at the top and installing a better radar and a pair of cwis.
>Would it be possible to refit a modern cruise ship for military use?
We had to miss on the Mediterranean school cruise in '82.
Blody Argentinians.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/a42435220/iran-converting-container-ships-into-aircraft-carriers/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Rapana
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empire_ship
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberty_ship
There's some quite interesting precedent with cargo ships from the British and the Iranians are trying it now. It could be more viable for drone carriers in a pinch. It will never be the first port of call though
yes. troop carrier/retrofitted hospital ship for hauling them over safe waters
Maybe as floating barracks, but as any sorts of weapons platform? Lmao no
Fill it with ANFO and aim for the nearest naval base, that's about it.
Guess you could test the crumple zones on a destroyer too.