Would Argentina be able to take back the Falklands with chinese backing?

Would Argentina be able to take back the Falklands with chinese backing? It would also be a big opportunity for Russia to give some payback to Britain, just a few anti ship missiles on the coast would be a nightmare for the royal navy. And it could remove the royal navy from a possible pacific conflict.

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  1. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    yes but china would never wanna provoke a war

  2. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >YOU CAN'T HAVE THAT, IT'S NOT YOURS
    >Taiwan isn't yours
    >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Argies are a bunch of chickenshit thirdie wienersuckers and I hope they try it again so I can watch hispanics die in 4k.

      Completely different situation. I'm not even going to try explaining it to you because if you weren't a moronic bugman you would understand said difference instead of thinking "Oh, island=island, just like 2+2=eat dog!" Also Taiwan, much like Manchuria, Korea, Inner Mongolia, Nanking, and your grandmother's pussy is rightful Japanese clay.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >muh heckin nuance
        edit a wikipedia article about it you autistic reddit mod

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >edit a wikipedia article about it you autistic reddit mod

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >le chink crying about taiwan not being his faec

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        It's exactly the same situation which is why Chinks are pushing for this stance.
        >well off island near mainland wants nothing to do with shithole mainland
        >this sentiment is reflected repeatedly in democratic votes and polls
        >mainland cucks want to take the island back by force regardless
        >the west stands in their way
        >endlessly impotent seething from mainlanders ensues

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Having known an argie, he states it was more of the case of their dipshit socialist dictator at the time needing something to distract the public from their overwhelmingly shitty economy and picking a slapfight with the british was their choice.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            He was probably a libertarian, a bunch of traitors who hate our country, of course he has a point that shitty leftwing government use it as a scapegoat but that doesn't mean it isn't something we shouldn't care about, by the way the 82 conflict was made by US puppets not basedcialist.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >le traitors
              >muh us
              Like clockwork.
              I don't even know why these threads exist. Argentina doesn't have a navy, airforce or army. Not even to fill a potemkin parade. The country has always been mediocre, walling in shit while being nothing more than Chile/Brazil/UK's onahole. Argentina is nothing more than pensioners and single mothers rotting in Buenos Aires while cattle barons frick over them for more than 100 years straight. The good argies all became Uruguayans.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >The country has always been mediocre
                >The good argies all became Uruguayans.
                >If they aren't with us they're le bad

                Whatever you say, still not going to kneel.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                There's no one to knew. Argentina mediocrity it's of their own making and has been going strong since the early 20th century.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                You talk as if a country couldn't have a bad time, well now that teachers in britain punish their students for not believing that there are 12391053 genders and pakis rape your women you're going to learn, enjoy your Indian PM.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              anda a cobrar los planes Black reventado, dijo la verdad

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >anda a cobrar los planes Black reventado

                Ya salio el libercuck pensando que todo el que no este con ellos es zurdo/kirchnerista.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              >He was probably a libertarian, a bunch of traitors who hate our country,
              Put on a trip lol, seriously, you bring up this shit in every fricking thread you obsessed mongoloid
              I'm not even libertarian, you're just an annoying twat

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >he states it was more of the case of their dipshit socialist dictator at the time needing something to distract the public from their overwhelmingly shitty economy and picking a slapfight with the british was their choice.
            Where do the assmad argies come from then?

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              The got buttmad after getting their cheeks clapped by the British
              Amazingly, the argies apparently went into the first conflict genuinely believing that they could win

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Amazingly, the argies apparently went into the first conflict genuinely believing that they could win
                They stung us pretty hard. It's feasible that if we hadn't doubled down and kept a limited response that we would have lost.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            > dipshit socialist dictator at the time needing something to distract the public from their overwhelmingly shitty economy and picking a slapfight with the british was their choice

            yeah, the junta needed something to unite the country and the british had some problems with their coal mines or something

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yeah, the problem is that sane argies are a minority and they're not going to grab their guns and take down the government. If they could, they would have done it already.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Being sane=letting your country being subverted by the powers that the globohomosexual likes and becoming a colony ¿¿¿

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                subverted by who? colonized by who? Argentina was only ever colonized by Spain. i don't think that's a current threat

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >COMPRETERY DIFFILENT
        Shut the frick up chang

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          I'm saying that I'm pro-Taiwan, anti-CCP and, pro-British claim on the Falklands. Maybe I got confused lol

  3. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't the Falklands have a vote and decided to stay a part of the UK?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      this.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        the overwhelming majority of locals are British with the biggest ethnic minorities being fricking Scandinavians

        I think they had several. Always with almost middle-eastern-dictatorship-levels of voting to stay British.

        Argentina has rejected the referendum because it rejects the voters themselves, they have openly stated that upon retaking the Malvinas they will simply deport all British citizens and recolonize them with Argentinians

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          technically a genocide according to UN definitions

          not like its a realistic outcome anyway

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Essentially genocide so that justified nuking Buenos Ares

            >muh genocide
            There's 2,800 people, that's like ten plane charters

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              and each one of them is worth 1000 argentinians

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Essentially genocide so that justified nuking Buenos Ares

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            I'm doing my part!

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >upon taking the "Malvinas"
          The Falklands are forever British
          Come and get them Argietards and see what happens
          Still seething over the Belgrano I suppose

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >recolonize
          Colonize. Not "recolonize". They never settled the islands.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Would Argentina be able to take back the Falklands with chinese backing?

          We will get them for free in less than 50 years by using the reisis card and cucktoids will accept it, the other way will be when brutish send pakis there and kelpers get tired asking to be annexed by us (we still going to deport them) lmao.

          Basically the same they did in 1833.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >We will get them for free in less than 50 years by using the reisis card
            what the frick did the Argie mean by this
            seriously what is a fricking "reisis card"

            >Basically the same they did in 1833
            the Brits currently on the Falklands have lived there longer than any other known inhabitants. they were completely unpopulated when discovered, and Argentina only had nominal control (i.e. they were actually there and not just claiming ownership while the only thing approaching a government was a random dude from Hamburg who claimed monopoly over the islands and their waters for himself) over them for, i shit you not, about a week (December 30, 1832 to January 5, 1833).

            the horrible act of the British to return their claim to the islands displaced a whopping... nobody, according to both the Argentinian and British records at the time. some of the people there were desperate to leave. the islands had less than a hundred people on them and the Brits didn't even establish a local government there until 1834

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Racist card, you know crying "british are reisis they don't want to give us the islands :(", maybe politicians won't take the bait but the youth? don't underestimate them just look the
              US withdrawal in vietnam.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                vietnam largely ended due to a lack of support even among hawks, by the end of the war barry goldwater, possibly the loudest proponent of the war, was against continuing any further

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Ah yes fight it like Vietnam, use all the excellent jungle cover on those barren islands in the middle of the open fricking ocean, hide amongst the people who look nothing like you and hate you, and of course exploit your home knowledge of the terrain that you don’t have.

                At least you have a whole four naval ships capable of fighting once you patch the rust holes in their hull - perfect for defeating a fleet of nuclear submarines and a pair of fleet carriers holding F-35’s all of which might as well be UFO’s to you fricking Black folk

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          "retake" implies they ever had them to begin with, at any point in history.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous
        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cool source bro

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      the overwhelming majority of locals are British with the biggest ethnic minorities being fricking Scandinavians

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think they had several. Always with almost middle-eastern-dictatorship-levels of voting to stay British.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >impying it's rigged
        Would you rather
        >Join a country that invaded you and promises to genocide you the moment they take over
        Or
        >Remain a territory of the country that came and fought for you right not not be lined up against a wall and shot whilst your daughter gets gangraped with no economic incentive.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      So would Hong Kong. Do you think China cares?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        That isn't how the Hong Kong thing worked my dude. The bongs didn't conquer Hong Kong, they leased it. When the lease was up (after 100 years) they had to give it back. Both China and the UK still have the receipts.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          That's not correct. They conquered Hong Kong outright. They also conquered Kowloon.
          They DID lease the New Territories for 100 years, but they could have returned those while keeping HK & Kowloon.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            That isn't how the Hong Kong thing worked my dude. The bongs didn't conquer Hong Kong, they leased it. When the lease was up (after 100 years) they had to give it back. Both China and the UK still have the receipts.

            In any case it doesn't matter. If the majority of Florida decided to join Cuba then they should have the right to join Cuba. The people's will trumps anything else.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >In any case it doesn't matter. If the majority of Florida decided to join Cuba then they should have the right to join Cuba. The people's will trumps anything else.
              I politely disagree to an extent. The only reason they would realistically want to join Cuba (or, more realistically, the return of the American Southwest to m*xico) would be due to a predominently latino population voting to do so. How is that just? That land was made a place worth living by White Americans, why should we be forced to give it up due to the opinions of a bunch of squatters?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The thing is that Floridian Cubans don't want to join Cuba. Not today, not in 10 years, probably not in 100 years. And that's not because they're forced to, but because it's better for them to stay in the US.
                Being part of a country has to be by will, not by force.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The native Americans have been saying the same thing for centuries and no one listens to them

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                1) I actually kind of feel bad for them
                2) Two wrongs don't make a right
                3) The Huwhite man conquered this land fair and square. The modern immigrant plague waltzes across the border and is immediately coddled by malicious elements in our own government
                4) Regardless of what's right or wrong or whatever, I choose my positions based on what is best for my ethnic group/nation and you should too (assuming you're White)

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >argentina doesn't even hold an original claim on the island
              >didn't even exist as a country when the Falklands were settled
              >couldn't even take them when they were undefended let alone now
              >b-b-but the people's will!!!!!
              >people that live on the island vote near unanimously to stay British again and again and again because argentina is an actual 3rd world shithole
              Imagine being proud of being an argentinian. To be honest the debate should be about whether the Falklands should take argentina but i guess they don't wanna babysit brown people.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              The majority--in some cases, the *vast* majority--of voters in a dozen states voted to join the Confederacy. Should their will have trumped anything else?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                But that doesn't consider the uncounted votes of millions of slaves, who undoubtedly would have voted against secession and made up 30-50% of the population.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                It also didn't count women, who wouldn't have the right to vote for several decades. Your point?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The founding fathers never intended for Africans to have the vote.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >They DID lease the New Territories for 100 years, but they could have returned those while keeping HK & Kowloon
            They could have but Deng Xiaoping made it clear that China would absolutely arm the frick out of the New Territories and then march over the border and take the rest.
            Legally, they might be more or less in the wrong though they don't acknowledge any other treaties signed by the Qing either so it's not as cut and dried as that. But they were prepared to say they would and Britain wasn't prepared to try and defend Hong Kong island and Kowloon given that China's supply lines are zero and Britain's are half the planet and China could probably send human waves over every point in the border simultaneously.

            I'm sure the British army could put up a good fight but it's not really a winnable war.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          We tried to leaseback the Falklands to the Argies on the same deal. We also tried to sell them HMS Hermes and its Harriers.

          You have to understand the Argies didn't especially want to invade the Falklands, they just wanted to invade somewhere to distract their low IQ population.

          They also didn't pick the timing, its all to do with the "scrap dealers" holding a barbecue and bullying penguins. The Antarctic Survey complained, there was a question asked in the House about their behaviour and their diplomats panicked and told the Junta "they are onto us!". Its quite funny really.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          Crack open a history book my boy. Heck even though Bongs were so thoroughly moronic, their history curriculum is surprisingly objective, too bad they didn’t learn from history

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        That isn't how the Hong Kong thing worked my dude. The bongs didn't conquer Hong Kong, they leased it. When the lease was up (after 100 years) they had to give it back. Both China and the UK still have the receipts.

        That's not correct. They conquered Hong Kong outright. They also conquered Kowloon.
        They DID lease the New Territories for 100 years, but they could have returned those while keeping HK & Kowloon.

        I will explain once again because this entire thing is very misunderstood by people on PrepHole.

        Britain took over Hong Kong island and Kowloon area and leased an area for 100 years after that. After WW2, UN led decolonisation efforts wanted every place that was part of a colony of an empire to have a vote on whether they remain part of that 'empire' or become independent. China however sneaked in a single sentence in a massive UN document that stated they did not consider Hong Kong to be a colony of the UK but to be a 'illegally occupied territory' of China. This meant that Hong Kong could not - legally - get a vote on independence from UK (and thus independence from China) because in the eyes of the world they considered it part of China that the UK was squatting on. Fast forward to 1997 and the lease was attempted to be renewed, obviously China said no. When the UK went 'Okay fine, we're carrying on with Hong Kong and so on' China said 'We will turn off the fresh water supply to Hong Kong and kill everybody if you don't hand it over'. When the UK went 'what the frick?' china said they were prepared to shell Hong Kong too and start a war with the UK over it. The UK a fragment of its former power and unable to ask for NATO's assistance decided the best thing to do was to do a deal with China, it'll be quasi-independent for 50 years, after which it would be absorbed into China proper. Hong Kong and the British/Hong Konger nationality would no longer exist in 2047.

        So that's how it was left.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          This.
          There's a story about a British General walking Thatcher down Boundary St and explaining that this would be the new border and the war would start with the Chinese on the north side of the street.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            Pearl of the Orient is a based campaign in Wargame Red Dragon

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            [...]
            [...]
            I will explain once again because this entire thing is very misunderstood by people on PrepHole.

            Britain took over Hong Kong island and Kowloon area and leased an area for 100 years after that. After WW2, UN led decolonisation efforts wanted every place that was part of a colony of an empire to have a vote on whether they remain part of that 'empire' or become independent. China however sneaked in a single sentence in a massive UN document that stated they did not consider Hong Kong to be a colony of the UK but to be a 'illegally occupied territory' of China. This meant that Hong Kong could not - legally - get a vote on independence from UK (and thus independence from China) because in the eyes of the world they considered it part of China that the UK was squatting on. Fast forward to 1997 and the lease was attempted to be renewed, obviously China said no. When the UK went 'Okay fine, we're carrying on with Hong Kong and so on' China said 'We will turn off the fresh water supply to Hong Kong and kill everybody if you don't hand it over'. When the UK went 'what the frick?' china said they were prepared to shell Hong Kong too and start a war with the UK over it. The UK a fragment of its former power and unable to ask for NATO's assistance decided the best thing to do was to do a deal with China, it'll be quasi-independent for 50 years, after which it would be absorbed into China proper. Hong Kong and the British/Hong Konger nationality would no longer exist in 2047.

            So that's how it was left.

            Hope HK will get the independence it deserves after the ccp imperial construct goes the way all red plague experiments go. Would hate to see that place get turned into a poorly maintained industrial wasteland with buildings having 2-3 year lifespan like the mainland is

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Hope HK will get the independence it deserves
              Frick 'em. The large majority of them support China and only a little more than 100,000 have left since the security law came into effect, including those who moved to the Chinese mainland.
              Basically, I don't feel bad for anybody who is still living there. It's the bed they chose and it's going to be very funny when Beijing starts making life more difficult for them.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Additionally, Mao declared the treaty leasing said area null and void in iirc the 50s, because he was considering invading it
          When China later argued that it was time to return the territory, they were of course referencing that same document that their own leader had already declared was null and void
          It was easier for everyone to just overlook this blatant trampling of international law since Britain wasn't seriously going to go to war for Hong Kong in the 1990s

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      anon, I don't think any place in the world wants to be part of argentina

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I think Falklands should be given back because of geography. But I also believe the British should keep it because they won the war for it and the people voted to stay.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I think

        stop lying

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >But I also believe the British should keep it because they won the war for it and the people voted to stay.

        Truly a barbarian society that only understands violence no wonder they only recognized our sovereignty in 1846 after we kicked their arses in the Battle of Punta Quebracho.

        vietnam largely ended due to a lack of support even among hawks, by the end of the war barry goldwater, possibly the loudest proponent of the war, was against continuing any further

        And also trannies support all of NATO actions so my plan may not work. 😐

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Considering Russia is a hub of anti trans disinfo and legislation, makes sense to me

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Russia is a hub of anti trans disinfo and legislation
            It's also a hub of pro trans disinfo and legislation.

            Shit's complicated.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >It's also a hub of pro trans disinfo and legislation.
              propaganda, maybe, not really legislation. which is more destructive though, the act or creation or destruction

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >propaganda, maybe, not really legislation
                I mean, yes but also trans surgery is covered in their health system, so they're somewhat pro-trans in their legislation.
                You just can't say anything nice about them on television.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I mean, yes but also trans surgery is covered in their health system, so they're somewhat pro-trans in their legislation.
                Bingo. Muh based trad puccia.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >propaganda, maybe, not really legislation
                I mean, yes but also trans surgery is covered in their health system, so they're somewhat pro-trans in their legislation.
                You just can't say anything nice about them on television.

                that's not going to be the case for long, probably

                https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-parliament-expected-back-sex-reassignment-surgery-ban-2023-06-14/

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Good for them. Still hate russians and still hate trannies.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >And also trannies support all of NATO actions

          Considering Russia is a hub of anti trans disinfo and legislation, makes sense to me

          Go frick yourself, trannies and vatniks belong in the same mass graves.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Because of geography? Should the US give Alaska back to Russia """"""because of geography'"""""""

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The US should give Alaska and the rest of its western territories back to the native peoples of America.

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            have a nice day you moronic mobilehomosexual redditor.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Falklands should be given back
        they were never argentine to begin with.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Average paradox gamer

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Because of geography
        Lmao, what?
        It's not even near to Argentina

  4. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What a stunning show of hypocrisy from the slanty-eyed Orientals.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Good evening. I hate China and I hate Chinese """people""". That is all.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        What the frick are you talking about

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          He is just expressing his heartfelt opinion on the chinese people anon, what is so hard to understand about that?

  5. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >"It's time to end colonial thinking"
    >"also you should totes colonize those islands because they are closer to you than their current owner."

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      It's only colonialism if white people do it

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Exactly, which is why Argentina's actions on the Falklands isn't colonialism.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          While Argentina is white memes are funny and PrepHole stable. The fact that they abolished slavery and gave them full civil rights was all about conscripting 'em and using 'em as cannon fodder is bit bleak. Wars with Uruguay weren't fighting themselves. There were 70k Black folks in Argentina in early 1800's, when overall population was 500k. That is about 15% of population. Now there are 0.5% Black folks and probably 1% or so that are visibly mulattoes, rest being diluted into Argentinian mutt.

  6. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    argi- who?

  7. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, the bongs would get US backing like last time

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >the bongs would get US backing like last time
      They did?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Chileans were spying on Argentinians, who then gave intel to the Americans, who then gave it to the British. All usually faster than the Argentinians could get the information to the person it was actually supposed to get to in the first place. The bongs were able to know where the argies were going to be even before the argie soldiers themselves knew.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          no, the Chileans gave intel direct to British spooks right there in Chile
          the Americans helped the British by providing them full use of the Ascension Island facilities owned by the Americans, diplomatic support, and allowing them to borrow from American war stocks

          the latter was so that the British wouldn't have to draw down on BAOR supplies

  8. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Couldn't Britain invoke NATO article 5 if they felt it was necessary?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      NATO doesn't cover anything in the south, hence why it didn't get involved in the original Falklands war.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Yes it does. The country needs to call for Article 5 to be triggered. It's not an automatic thing.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Article 5 refers to an attack in "Europe or North America" and Article 6 explicitly defines what is included. pic related is the exact text of the treaty. To invoke Article 5, an attack must occur in Europe, North America , Algeria, Turkey and Islands in the Atlantic "North of the Tropic of Cancer". The Falklands being in the South Atlantic are not covered by the treaty. Also not covered are most of France's Overseas Territories, the US State of Hawaii, and all the other various pacific islands controlled by the US.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >the US wouldnt invoke article 5 if Hawaii was attacked

            doubt.jpg

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              ah yes, famous north atlantic state Hawaii

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >USA is part of NATO
                >Hawaii is part of USA

                isnt it past your curfew chang

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                That's not how NATO works.
                In the Pacific, the US are on their own.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Most of NATO would join anyway even if not officially as a NATO action

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >USA is part of NATO
              >Hawaii is part of USA

              isnt it past your curfew chang

              The US State Department actually admitted once that based on the actual wording the treaty they couldn't technically invoke Article 5 if someone were to pull a Pearl Harbor II. Although everyone agrees that it's the sort of thing though where even though it's not covered, there's little reason to think our allies would make a fuss about that kind of technicality.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >the sort of thing though where even though it's not covered, there's little reason to think our allies would make a fuss about that kind of technicality
                haha

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >even though it's not covered, there's little reason to think our allies would make a fuss about that kind of technicality
                this is what nobody gets about "treaties": they're not actually that binding, it's just a promise. they can be broken.

                if X decides not to join in, what are you going to do? force them to? yeah sure you can shame them, or even kick them out of the organisation, but if they're willing to take that? you're not getting help either way

                flipside: nobody ever said that just because you're NOT part of the treaty, you CAN'T help.
                I think Russians in particular have a serious comprehension fail regarding this point.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >this is what nobody gets about "treaties": they're not actually that binding, it's just a promise. they can be broken.
                This. There's a tendency to believe that treaties are in some way ironclad but it's all wishful thinking. For example, if America decided not to defend Japan in a hot war, nothing would happen. The Japs would be pissed but that's it.
                They're also very fuzzy. Most defense treaties are worded such that you could send a few crates of ammo and then claimed to have acted in accordance with the treaty.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Islands in the Atlantic "North of the Tropic of Cancer"
            Fair enough.

            Though I think that the UK would just ask the countries in NATO and most of them would probably come anyway, for the practice and because reciprocity keeps relationships healthy.
            I can't see the US not getting friends involved in a war that came to Hawaii either.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              >Though I think that the UK would just ask the countries in NATO and most of them would probably come anyway
              They didn't last time. Both France and Germany thought Britain was 'mad' to fight over it. USA didn't particularly want to help either.

              Such a shame the Bong defence budget isn't enough of China starts supplying Argentina with shit.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Such a shame the Bong defence budget isn't enough of China starts supplying Argentina with shit.

                Chill, our politics are a bunch of "homelandsellers" and will never accept China's help, start sweating when a nationalist takes the power but you can just overthrow him like you have been doing multiple times.

                the spanish crown owned the land, not ever independent argentina

                Ok so Australia and the US does not exist.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                Your argument is like saying the US has the rights to claim HongKong because both used to belong to the British.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                If it was part of modern day US it would make sense, the "falklands" were part of the Viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata, tell me Sidney is part of Australia?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                The Falklands are not part of modern Argentina, so what is your point exactly?

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                "Sidney" is not a part of Australia

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                The Falklands were never part of the viceroyalty because they were never Spanish. The Spanish were merely allowed to build a settlement on it because neither side wanted war.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >Ok so Australia and the US does not exist.
                more like, texas isn't mexican. independent mexio quickly lost the ability to defend its territory adequately, much like many states after the wars of independence. simon bolivar tried to establish a less confederated government in south america to avoid such situations but instead south america shattered

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              a few years ago I would have said most of NATO wouldn't have supported Britain except the US but seeing the support for Ukraine and how strong the NATO unity still is I think the situation will the be the same as in 1982.

              People don't remember this but for example West Germany batted hard for Britain as a true fren putting immense diplomatic pressure on the US to ditch Argentina and help Britain viewing any attack on any territory of any member as the first step to the Soviets crossing into west Berlin. The Baltics in modern times would do the same for Britain imo.

              • 11 months ago
                Anonymous

                >I think the situation will the be the same as in 1982.
                I actually think 1982 Argentina would wipe the floor with 2023 Argentina.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        Article 5 didn't get triggered the first time because most of NATO were openly saying that Britain should just give Argentina the islands whilst the French went as far to sell weapons to them.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        How are you so moronic?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Even better, they could pump the argies full of missiles to keep NATO far away while they take taiwan, with this, Cuba, Ukraine and maybe even north korea, China is learning to fight the American way, let others do the heavy lifting.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >a couple disparate countries come together to fight barely coordinated wars against countries that actually work together, have a common worldview beyond "i was wronged" and can easily outproduce them
        Strategic advantage of just being an Alibaba Axis?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Alibaba Axis

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Pumping Argentina full of Chink missiles is just begging for them to get into the CIA's hands for reverse engineering and analysis.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Tell me you’re a seething thirdie Black person in one easy post
        Please name one major American conflict where anyone but America did the heavy lifting

  9. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What even is the point of BRICS and friends?
    >Brazil
    literally 90% favelas
    >Russia
    lmoa
    >India
    shits in the streets
    >China
    Lmao
    >South Africa
    don't have electricity 90% of the time
    and now Argentina? the country that has 100% yearly inflation increase?
    What are they trying to make a coalition of failed states?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You've got to have the good guy faction and the bad guy faction when designing your setting.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE WE HATE WHYPIPO
      That's it really. No need to look into it further.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      most of the third world is really just out for themselves, they tend to have corrupt autocratic governments and just want avenues to access credit and foreign investment that doesn't come with strings attached regarding fighting corruption or instituting good faith democratic reforms. they are largely non-ideological, short sighted, and out for personal benefit - its why Russia has had a really hard time courting them to its war in Ukraine, they really don't fricking care unless it impacts them (if the Russians let the grain deal collapse you will 100% see the global South grow intensely more hostile to Russia)

      the second world powers in BRICS are themselves corrupt shitholes that want to undermine Western hegemony so they can usher in a return to pre-WW2 global politics with spheres of influence and their own colonies (they just harp on Western colonialism to keep thirdies happy, take a look at the former USSR states and their unnatural Russian populations or how many Chinese enclaves exist throughout SEAsia without local consent)

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      To have a cool club.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        For me, it's Estados Unidos

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        rolling

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >rolling
          Nop, I take all of them, but my cute children will have to learn to work together against the coming darkness.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        that South African girl is pure sex.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I'm from Argentina, and I honestly don't give a frick about the Falklands. You can keep them as that's how war goes.

      most of the third world is really just out for themselves, they tend to have corrupt autocratic governments and just want avenues to access credit and foreign investment that doesn't come with strings attached regarding fighting corruption or instituting good faith democratic reforms. they are largely non-ideological, short sighted, and out for personal benefit - its why Russia has had a really hard time courting them to its war in Ukraine, they really don't fricking care unless it impacts them (if the Russians let the grain deal collapse you will 100% see the global South grow intensely more hostile to Russia)

      the second world powers in BRICS are themselves corrupt shitholes that want to undermine Western hegemony so they can usher in a return to pre-WW2 global politics with spheres of influence and their own colonies (they just harp on Western colonialism to keep thirdies happy, take a look at the former USSR states and their unnatural Russian populations or how many Chinese enclaves exist throughout SEAsia without local consent)

      is pretty much correct. Most of the third world have a bad past with the US, or they're just out for themselves. They have no support from US-EU, or their past is kinda grim with them.
      Now that BRICS appears, and China wants to push for more international relevancy between all nations, we're seeing more and more heavy support from China to such countries, be it Middle East - Africa (MENA) or South America, and they're mostly all welcoming China for such support.
      I don't see this as a bad thing, since the US and EU doesn't give much of a frick about these countries in the first place, and it's rather obvious that China is going for the clout-chasing to try and push the Yuan.
      Only issue is that the Yuan or just China in general, has way too many issues or have little weight or relevancy compared to the US-EU.
      I do respect the attempt for supporting such countries, and I'd like to see the Yuan compete since the USD is way too fricking strong even against the Euro.

      Russia definitely fricked every possibility to properly develop BRICS, even if the rest of the countries hate eachother or are corrupt as shit.

      The situation in my country is grim as frick because our president is literally a Soviet-tard, but that will change this year.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >You can keep them as that's how war goes.
        based

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        You are being too chummy with China, ultimately the only reason we thirdies make deals with China is because they are dirt-cheap and blind to corruption, they are the international equivalent of a box of condoms used for a small adventure, and should be thrown into the trash after used, for what is worth, they are better than Russia, chinese gear is trash, but not russian-tier trash.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I do respect the attempt for supporting such countries
        I wouldn't call encouraging corruption, establishing ethnic enclaves and flinging debt traps around support.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        >I do respect the attempt for supporting such countries
        look up what happened to Sri Lanka, they are not supporting countries they are supporting corrupt individuals who are whoring out their countries.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Brazil
      Pretty big player in agriculture and resources, right?
      >Russia
      Resources, (decaying) industrial sector
      >India
      Industry (not as much as China), a smattering of tech
      >China
      Industry, Industry, Industry, and Industry
      >South Africa
      Resources, I think?

      The point is: they're reasonably large economies who have some motive or another to want an edge over the West. They do hate each other though.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >What even is the point of BRICS and friends?
      Just a safety in numbers thing, the west is an enormous economic and military hegemony, some people on the outside of it decided to band together.
      Unfortunately, half of them hate each other so it's very much a marriage of convenience and probably not worth that much.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thirdies are VERY bitter and jealous of first world wealth & success.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        They're vicious and nasty. Propaganda paints them as peace loving and innocent. Greece, India, South Africa, nasty chauvanists.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >what even is the point of BRICS?
      Literally wallstreet investment marketing ploy that the thirdies themselves then jumped on

  10. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Falklands are actually british and they have a 100% claim to the island as there was no original inhabitants

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      If you want irrefutable proof of commie lies you just have to look into this, as a kid in school we literally learned that the evul anglos took the islands from the poor inhabitants.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >we literally learned that the evul anglos took the islands from the poor inhabitants

        You're fricking moronic and I guess Gaucho Rivero never existed, imagine a libertario knowing history.

        subverted by who? colonized by who? Argentina was only ever colonized by Spain. i don't think that's a current threat

        Do you want me to list all the overthrows made by UK/France/US after our secession?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >worshipping some random murderer
          this is why you are in a shithole and will always be

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >commietard in charge of being honest
          just ignore Soviet and Chinese subversion in South America,why not

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >a majority of which were from Albania
            the eternal Albanian is at it again.

  11. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'm sure Tibet was thrilled to hear it

  12. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Britain would just surrender like they did in Hong Kong. Country is smart enough to only fight wars it can win.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Argies don't have nukes so it's not really the same.

  13. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    What has Argentina got that can intercept a nuclear warhead headed for BA? We don't have time to frick around with brown people.

  14. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Literally the ONE instance where the British didn't conquer the island and slaughter the inhabitants and everyone living there has repeatedly expressed their desire to remain under British rule
    >Muh evil Anglo colonialism

  15. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Making crackers seethe and shit their pants in fear

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      crackers seethe and shit their pants in fear

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        [...]

        crackers seethe and shit their pants in fear

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >

          [...]

          crackers seethe and shit their pants in fear

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >>

            [...]

            crackers seethe and shit their pants in fear

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Christ, It's like gorillas trying to pass the mirror test.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Honestly, walking the wrong way down an escalator is pretty fun

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            >Kai dang ku
            No street shitting allowed. k? thnk u!

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          What is even the context of this?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            During covid some Indians thought cow shit had healing properties. Search cow dung covid etc and see.

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Is there any way to fix those "people"?

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            It's a religious thing, cow dung is the object of some sort of superstition or mystical bullshit or something. There's a Hindu component to it as well and sometimes it's a form of religious ecstasy.

            You can put it in roughly the same category as LA gurus drinking urine or crystal meditation or preachers speaking in tongues and doing snake handling.

            Same sorts of people doing it too, either dumb-as-frick dirt-poor farmers or more-money-than-sense city folk looking for redemption.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Autobots, roll out!

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Thailand not even on there
      fake

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Italy above the US
      wot

  16. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    England would curbstomp the thirdies even with their dismal readiness levels.

    War is in the Anglo’s genes and he is exceedingly good at it. The bug and the black as the sky on a starless night argie cannot and will not ever be able to compete.

  17. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >south africa pls do something in the war!
    >AAAAA homie I AIN'T GOT POWER!
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_African_energy_crisis

  18. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The bong claim to the island is rock solid. It was uninhabited when first claimed, has been almost continuously held since, its inhabitants unanimously wish to remain British and Argentina didn't even exist at the time its status was settled.

    To actually answer question properly. there is nothing Argentina could do. Not only is the island much better defended now - permanent garrison, air defence, anti ship - there are also regularly practiced plans in place to deter or defeat an invasion. Unlike in the 80s when it wasn't defended at all, and the bongs had actually considered negotiating its sovereignty with the Argies. Now it would be politically impossible for the British government to countenance a debate over its sovereignty, let alone allow it to be taken militarily. And they have almost unlimited escalation steps available compared to the Argentineans - there was even some rumours Margaret Thatcher considered nukes.

    tl:dr the Argentineans are in a much worse place than they were last time, and British defenses much more prepared

    >muh china
    China can barely project force inside its local area, let alone the south Atlantic. The bongs have massively scaled back their capabilities to project force en maase, but the projection ability for strike and special forces is still excellent. Nor would Chinese supplies have a chance of getting near the island

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >Nor would Chinese supplies have a chance of getting near the island

      The Astute class boats thirst for ching chong blood.

  19. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >calls for end to 'colonial thinking'
    >supports Argentinian colonialism.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      No you don't understand, the Island is closer to Argentina, therefore it belongs to them

  20. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Sent to the islands to secure what is ours
    Marching ashore in the cover of night
    Hide until dawn and attack in the twilight
    Shake them awake with the thunder of guns
    Orders from the iron maiden, get the islands back
    Failure will not be accepted, call for artillery strike, launch attack
    We are Back in control, force them to surrender
    Take what is ours, restore law and order
    Back in control, push them further out to sea
    Falklands in our hands, back under British reign
    Push them back further and out from the islands
    Into our fleet that will stop their retreat
    Mark their positions and call in the airforce
    Harriers and Vulcans strikes at our command

  21. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Your BLACK master needs his shoes polished, pigskin. Get to work

  22. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    ironically they would have more chances without the chinks as they would force the USA to side with the UK unlike what happened in the previous war.

  23. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Post guns with time stamp

  24. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >I'll have a large fries with a side of cultural enrichment please

  25. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >Seething cracker is seething. Such a miserable existence
    How's it going, Ruggarell?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous
  26. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Would Argentina be able to take back the Falklands
    no

  27. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    Post guns with timestamp

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      [...]
      Post guns with time stamp

      [...]

      The flag's a bit of a surprise tbqh

  28. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >to take back
    >take back
    No one lived there until the 1700s. Then it was English and French. France gave up their part to Spain. The English pulled out of their part. Then Spain abandoned their side. Argentina doesn't come in until 1820 and it's through an American and then a German. Then the U.S. cancelled Argentina
    >Thereafter, the archipelago was visited only by fishing ships; its political status was undisputed until 1820, when Colonel David israeliteett, an American privateer working for the United Provinces of the Río de la Plata, informed anchored ships about Buenos Aires' 1816 claim to Spain's territories in the South Atlantic.[31][D] Since the islands had no permanent inhabitants, in 1823 Buenos Aires granted German-born merchant Luis Vernet permission to conduct fishing activities and exploit feral cattle in the archipelago.[E] Vernet settled at the ruins of Puerto Soledad in 1826, and accumulated resources on the islands until the venture was secure enough to bring settlers and form a permanent colony.[35] Buenos Aires named Vernet military and civil commander of the islands in 1829,[36] and he attempted to regulate sealing to stop the activities of foreign whalers and sealers.[30] Vernet's venture lasted until a dispute over fishing and hunting rights led to a raid by the American warship USS Lexington in 1831,[37][F] when United States Navy commander Silas Duncan declared the dissolution of the island's government.[38]
    The Argentinians tried to come back but failed due to mutiny and the British came back. It's been a crown colony since 1840. Argentina's short attempts at controlling it were minimal and failures.
    It's as Argentinian as bangers and mash.

  29. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    All I want to see is an Argentine ZTZ99 or the ZTQ15.

  30. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    I shouldn't even ask but why does this look so homoerotic

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I’m just confused as to why the Saffers didn’t go with a lion instead of an elephant. The homoeroticism is an unintentional reflex for these poofters and almost doesn’t bear talking about. Perhaps the Lion is too British for them.

      https://i.imgur.com/nWFTfrc.jpg

      To have a cool club.

      [...]

      The idea that India and China would ever work together to compete with the West, instead of competing with each other for the favor of the West is the funniest BRICS related delusion, bar none.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >instead of competing with each other for the favor of the West
        HAHAHA no, noone wants America and its european slave colonies on their side. Whats even the point of an alliance when all that comes out of it is israelites and gay sex

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          how many himars destroyed

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Ok thirdie

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Whats even the point of an alliance when all that comes out of it is israelites and gay sex
          I don't know, ask uncle Vlad.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            even the point of an alliance when all that comes out of it is israelites and gay sex

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The overwhelming majority of that debt is tied up in domestic bonds.
          The only people the US government owes anything to are the American people.
          That's how democracy is supposed to work.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          The frick has Peter Noone and what he wants got to do with absolutely anything?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Cute. Now show us China's National Debt.

  31. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    If you read old novels (but not super old, early 20thC) the Argentinian is a pervasive character who is always super wealthy. They occupy the role that, say, a sheikh or a tech bro might today.

    A cautionary tale.

  32. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i really hope Argentinian politicians push this so i can laugh at south american politics even harder. especially if all the commie larpers join in.

  33. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >speaks about how third world Argentina is, but is unable to reason when the 600th murder by haram stabbing appears, or muh diversity
    Argentina definitely is third world country tier, but try to look at your bellybutton every now and then, man.

  34. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >According to the South China Morning Post
    Blow it clean out your prolapsed arsehole you soft-boiled hunk of shit.

  35. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    >White countries will be a fantasy within my lifetime and it will be beautiful, i guess there will be an increase in anti-russia/brics squealing as a coping mechanism from pigskins but we will just press our boot on your neck even harder when that happens

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      I call it a draw.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous
        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          What can I say, our youth still haven't figured out US lefties are as much worthless trash as regional che guevara commies and they should all be thrown into the sun or dropped into an active volcano, good thing in a generation or two we will have the numbers to deal with APA and make them pay for how they brainwashed both some of our children to poison and mutilate themselves.

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            america wont be around in a generation or two, thankfully balkanization is best bet

            • 11 months ago
              Anonymous

              Truly ahistorical take

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Fair enough, but I'd say that you people have more closeted gays due to this "macho" shit. Either way beaners are a plague and I hope they all take the transpill.

  36. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    https://i.imgur.com/NNPWgvz.png

    What even is the point of BRICS and friends?
    >Brazil
    literally 90% favelas
    >Russia
    lmoa
    >India
    shits in the streets
    >China
    Lmao
    >South Africa
    don't have electricity 90% of the time
    and now Argentina? the country that has 100% yearly inflation increase?
    What are they trying to make a coalition of failed states?

    You have no idea how bad shit is in South Africa.

  37. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Would Argentina be able to take back the Falklands with chinese backing?
    No. Whatever money for such a thing would get stolen.
    More interesting question: Why does Argentina even perceive the Falklands as a matter of honor even though everyone knows that the war was provoked to deviate the attention from the crashing economy at the time?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      They really don't, the government just wants the gas.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >They really don't, the government just wants the gas.
        Can they even extract it? If they resort to the chinks then they'll probably take like half as tribute.

  38. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    we need to stop giving non americans first amendment rights, they have shit the entire internet up 100X over

  39. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Would Argentina be able
    No.
    >take back
    It was never theirs.
    >with chinese backing?
    To what end would China do such a monumentally stupid thing as that?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >>take back
      >It was never theirs.

      >Discovered by Alonso de Camargo
      >Recognize by the british as spaniard in the "Masserano-Rochford declaration" (1770)
      >Gave it to the Viceroyalty of the Río de la Plata by Spain
      >The Viceroyalty gets its secession and that includes the Malvinas/Falklands
      >The British take it in 1833 knowing that Argentina was in the middle of a civil war and the only people there were farmers
      >Somehow it has never been Argentinian

      It amazes me how delusional anglos are.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        the spanish crown owned the land, not ever independent argentina

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Argentina is NOT the successor state to Spain, So if anyone could take the falklands "back" it would be Spain.
        Argentinia just occupied them from 1820 to 1833 illegally.

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >Argentina is NOT the successor state to Spain

          That would imply Argentina existed before the Spanish Empire.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        See

        > On 23rd September 1832, Argentine ship, the Sarandi sailed from Buenos Aires with Major Esteban Mestivier in charge to garrison the islands. On 28th September 1832 British Consul Henry Fox protested to Maza, Argentina minister of foreign affairs, about the decree appointing Mestivier and the dispatch of the garrison to the Falklands preserving British rights to the Falklands. The protest read ‘…it becomes his duty now again* officially to declare to the Government of Buenos Ayres, that sovereignty of the Falkland Islands …is vested in the crown of Great Britain and that no act of government or authority can be exercised over these islands by any other power, without infringing upon the just rights of His Britannic Majesty.’ Maza acknowledged receipt of the protest and stated that the government would reply in due course. There was no reply. *referring to the earlier protest regarding Vernet’s appointment (Ref: (Falklands Facts and Fallacies, the Falkland Islands in History and International Law, Pascoe G. p145, 2020, quoting text from PRO FO 6 499, Fols 195-196).

        Argentina recognized its sovereignty in 1832.

  40. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    [...]

    > we will just press our boot on your neck even harder when that happens
    Ha, you couldn’t manage even if Israel gave you a loan for a stepladder.

    The saddest thing is all those classic stories of Humanity’s future in the stars, where a friendly rivalry with the USSR or Russia helped tie the colonists to their homelands, but now Putin’s moronation and the Wolf Warrior cult means that our only potential rivals off world are going to be the French. It’s just so grim. What will stop humanity from atomizing amongst the stars without a unifying competition? Nothing.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      On the bright side we get to reenact the hundred years war with France on Mars this time.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        is there martian plague

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Cheer up, there's still the aliums

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        hahahahahahahahahaha

  41. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Would Argentina be able to take back the Falklands with chinese backing?
    No, that would literally invoke Article 5.
    Western nations never fight alone.

    By the time it was over, there'd be a USAF base there.

  42. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    China comes out with this shit because they perceive it as consistent with their position on Taiwan. It was the same with Ukraine although apparently they think Putin lied to them.

    The irony is that most people don't have any idea what they are going on about because obviously its not exactly logical. e.g., if Britain invaded Ireland would that be "imperialist" (in which case China would hate it) or would it be reuniting the territory (in which case China would back it). You can't know and they probably don't know, its all very silly.

  43. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I'd rather have America annex the Falklands.

  44. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Falklands belonged to the British first. The Argentine claim comes form the Spaniards having taken the Islands from the British by force.

  45. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Argentina can't defeat Royal Navy with an aircraft carrier, fighters and anti ship missiles
    >Suddenly a few cheap Chinese gimmicks is supposed to change the result

  46. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Not really China would have to built their entire armed forces up from nothing since they basically have no airforce or navy as of now.

    Even then Britain has an air bridge with the Falklands now so if they get more than 36 hours warning they could bus in their airborne brigade plus their high readiness expeditionary air wing to thwart any force Argentina can realistically deploy. Even if they capture the islands they would then have to deal with a carrier group of 5th gen aircraft,fleet air defense for days and 10k troops.

    They had one shot (one opportunity) to seize everything they wanted 1982 and they let it slip away. That made either diplomatic resolution or military victory out of reach forever. they played themselves.

  47. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Daily reminder that the Argentinians by right acknowledged the sovereignty of the islands to be British in I think 1864. The islands LITERALLY vote to be part of Britain and have done SEVERAL times. Why the frick is the democratic process not being respected? Why is China allowed to build artificial islands and claim Taiwan but the people of an island cannot decide who they are ruled by?

  48. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >able to take back the Falklands
    argentina never fricking owned the Falklands, so how can the take them "back"?

  49. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    > On 23rd September 1832, Argentine ship, the Sarandi sailed from Buenos Aires with Major Esteban Mestivier in charge to garrison the islands. On 28th September 1832 British Consul Henry Fox protested to Maza, Argentina minister of foreign affairs, about the decree appointing Mestivier and the dispatch of the garrison to the Falklands preserving British rights to the Falklands. The protest read ‘…it becomes his duty now again* officially to declare to the Government of Buenos Ayres, that sovereignty of the Falkland Islands …is vested in the crown of Great Britain and that no act of government or authority can be exercised over these islands by any other power, without infringing upon the just rights of His Britannic Majesty.’ Maza acknowledged receipt of the protest and stated that the government would reply in due course. There was no reply. *referring to the earlier protest regarding Vernet’s appointment (Ref: (Falklands Facts and Fallacies, the Falkland Islands in History and International Law, Pascoe G. p145, 2020, quoting text from PRO FO 6 499, Fols 195-196).

  50. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    hmm. China is consistently attempting to submit islands to rule they do not want. Australia is next

  51. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    molon labe

  52. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It would take a lot of support and likely decades of rebuilding the Argentine armed forces.
    Also if China turns Argentina into a serious regional Military power and proxy then the US will likely try to counter them somehow, likely by supporting Chile and possibly Brazil in response and by helping the UK in the event of a Falklands crisis.

    Part of the reason that the US stayed out of the original Falklands conflict was that Argentina was pretty much unaligned.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >US supporting Brazil
      Huh?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Open a history book some time.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you think Brazil was ruled by a fascist military dictatorship for like 40 years?

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          because that's how you rule a monkey horde

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Because US was still coping about Cuba and decided to decimate every democratic institution south of Mexico, just in case.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I know it's hard to understand because nobody talks about Brazil here but the US considers it a non-NATO ally since 2019 and their military is filled with francophiles. It's always has been western-aligned.
        >something something brics
        It's just about the money babe. Gotta have that cheap Russian fertilizer and Chinese demand for iron and food.

  53. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    i hate the chinks so god damn much, i hope we get rid of the lefty government and go back to sinking illegal chink fishing boats in the south

  54. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Dont the chink fishing boats poach in Argentine waters? I doubt they're that friendly.

  55. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    It's literally nothing, they do this every time shit gets REALLY bad in Argentina.
    We'll either see another botched invasion or a popular uprising at this point.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >or a popular uprising at this point.

      Dear god I hope, sadly globohomosexual lolbertards will win the elections.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      0 chance for both
      maybe a 1% for the uprising

  56. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Would Argentina be able to take back the Falklands

    They don't have a navy or an air force, and the Falklands is an island.

    boring question. Stapling 'with chinese backing' onto something doesn't create some magic scenario pop into existence

  57. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    With what? Argentina is meme tier with non-existent naval or air assets and China cannot into power projection. Even as gutted as the British forces are they'd have no issue defending the Falklands.

  58. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I think a lot of people are just jealous honestly. Not because they couldn't do it, and many are in a stronger position to do it, but it always seems to be our little island that pulls this kino shit off.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >That map
      Something just occurred to me: why the frick is South America so peaceful? While I get that many of the nations of SA have their internal problems, none of them seem to fight each other at all. In comparison, African post-colonial nations get into autistic slapfights with each other all the time, with the occasional genocide thrown in.
      >"muh wypipo muh colonialism"
      Not an argument. SA was colonized to a greater degree than Africa ever was.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        One argument is that all of the borders chosen by the Spanish mostly made sense as natural boundaries and aren't resented compromises.

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        South Africa is in an entirely different hemisphere from Europe and threw most of its chains off simultaneously before logistics were ever feasible transatlantically, while in Africa decolonization was just lacklustre top down reform

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_America#Wars_and_conflicts

  59. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    In the unlikely scenario the RN loses.
    >Detonate a nuke off the coast of Argentina
    >Say the next one hits Buenos Aires
    >Argentines withdraw
    Literally that simple.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >fire nuke into Buenos Aires
      >fixes Argentina forever
      please dont even bother with the warning shot, go for it

  60. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    This statement is mostly China just virtue signaling to make themselves look like saviors of the brown race. I'm sure Argentina would rather that China take their fishing flotilla out of their territorial waters than go to war with Britain

  61. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I know this is a shit-flinging thread and I'm going to regret putting any thought or effort in at all but I really have to point out that Argentina has very little in the way of a military. Like, hilarious curbstomp that it was, going into the Falklands Argentina had something that could charitably be described as "a military," and now it doesn't.

    Astonishingly, Argentina somehow took materiel losses 40 fricking years ago that it somehow STILL hasn't recovered from.

    Some examples:
    >In 1982, Argentina had 46 A-4s, 43 Mirages, 14 Etendards and eight odd little jet bombers
    >Today, it allegedly has 24 A-4s and nothing else. The on paper number is that small, given the age of the planes, its possible they functionally have no air force whatsoever

    >In 1982, Argentina had four attack submarines
    >Today, it has zero - two have been under permanent repair since 2020, one was scrapped, and one yeeted its entire crew at the bottom of the Atlantic in 2017

    >in 1982, Argentina had two battlecruisers and seven destroyers
    >Now they're all gone. In their place are four frigates (one hasn't sailed under its own power since 2008) and nine corvettes (four of them are in drydock indefinitely)

    >in 1982, Argentina had a fricking aircraft carrier
    >I don't really need to make the contrast here, do I

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      , it allegedly has 24 A-4s and nothing else

      Lmao I wish, is not even that I think last time I checked it was like 6 A4-AR

      >in 1982, Argentina had two battlecruisers and seven destroyers

      We never had battlecruisers, only battleships and they were retired before the 82.

      https://i.imgur.com/toFJTzA.jpg

      >commietard in charge of being honest
      just ignore Soviet and Chinese subversion in South America,why not

      in charge of being honest

      So Rosas (proto-fascist), Yrigoyen (center) and Peron (nationalist-right) were commies uhh ok?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        I was actually counting the Belgrano and the Nueve de Julio, although on closer inspection while scrapped in '83, the Julio was decommissioned in '81

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          Belgrano was a US light cruiser moron

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            It was sunk in battle

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Peron (nationalist-right)
        he was the equivalent of a magatard nazbol

  62. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Those Islands were never argentine, first iirc they were french, then brittish, then argie for like one or two years before they sold them to some random hamburg merchant and then it went to the brits again.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      The islands were always British. The British found and landed on them first in 1690, then the French found a different island that was part of the same archipelago. The French were the first to build a settlement on the islands, shortly followed by the British. Spain later claimed that the "French" islands should be theirs because of a papal decree splitting South America between them and the Portuguese. Meanwhile the British never relinquished their claim to the islands. Eventually the two settlements cane in contact with eachother and the Spanish attacked and captured the British settlement but returned the settlement back to Britain the following year in order to avoid war. The British would later abandon their settlement but leave a sign saying that the islands are still British and the Spanish settlement would become a prison camp. When Argentina declared independence from Spain they also claimed ALL Spanish territory in South America as theirs, including the entire archipelago which Britain still claimed. The Argentinians assigned a governor to the islands who was eventually ousted by the Americans after he autistically tried to stop everyone else from using the islands as a layover and a whaling station. Argentina tried to reestablish control by setting up a garrison. The garrison would mutiny and then the British returned to reassert their claim to the islands and kicked the garrison off the islands. The governor's second in command would try to and keep business moving after the British navy left again but would be murdered by gauchos over pay (Argentine revisionists say it was over British rule as the 2nd in command was Scottish) and the islands would descend into anarchy until Britain returned the following year, declared the islands a Crown Colony and transported the first permanent residents to the islands (the fishermen, whalers and gauchos previously living on the island were seasonal workers)

      The Falklands are British.

  63. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Go ahead. Try and take them again. I'm sure the Royal Marines would enjoy sticking bayonets into the great grandsons of low-ranking nazi party officials again.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      Not perfidious enough, need to make a fake resistance movement, get foreign weapons and then ship them somewhere else.

  64. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    China has literal colonial thinking by bullying other peoples seas. Frickin Long Chink Silver over there

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      *Long Pork Silver

  65. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    is uk moronic enough to attack china? if they are then they deserve everything it comes to them

    also this isnt the 80s anymore uk wont do shit against a nuclear state they got cucked in HK they will get cucked in falklands

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >they got cucked in HK
      moronic. They gave them back when the lease was up. If you sell your girlfriend's pussy to me, and I give her back to you when the hour is over, am I being cucked?

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        hence they got cucked

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >+0.50 RMB

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        >mom its summer now can i call everyone an indian and if this doesnt work can i revert back on calling them russian?
        >yes my child you are a /k/ tourist afterall

        • 11 months ago
          Anonymous

          >RMB
          >Russian
          you're moronic either way so yes he can do that and be right in your case

          • 11 months ago
            Anonymous

            kek
            I was wondering how long before / if he'd ever spot that

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      You probably didn't read shit
      冚家鏟

      • 11 months ago
        Anonymous

        没有肉!!!

  66. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I honestly couldn't care less about some literally where cliff in the south Atlantic but from what i understand, Argentina would probably have gotten the islands with a peaceful handover by now if they hadn't sperged and made them a point of national pride for the bongs

  67. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, because we have plot armour, and are the biggest Mary Sues in human history.

  68. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >back
    lmao

  69. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The people that live there overwhelmingly wish to be British and are British. Certainly Russia can understand this at the moment. Right, China?

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >The people that live there overwhelmingly wish to be Taiwanese and are Taiwanese
      this is why China is supporting the Falklands annexation

  70. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >just a few anti ship missiles on the coast would be a nightmare for the royal navy.
    RAF would destroy them. Argentinian AA is shit and their air force is third world tier. They could have F-35s striking within a day.
    >And it could remove the royal navy from a possible pacific conflict.
    America would step in if there were a risk of this happening. They want all hands on deck in the possibility of a Pacific hot war. USN might be much bigger, but they want the RN to be around because the Bongs have the only major navy who America can fully rely on in a global conflict. France might have a formidable navy, but they are much more ambiguous in the lengths they would go in a Pacific War. Japan of course would be important but it's debatable if they would operate far from the home islands. SK would be too busy subhunting in their own backyard to operate deep in the Pacific. That leaves the RN and RAN, of which RN is a lot bigger.

  71. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    As long as the c**ts can't take malvinas, they won't even larp about trying for Uruguay. So as far as I care, god save the queen dude.

  72. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Remember, it's only imperialism if you're white.

  73. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >South China Morning Post
    Official party propaganda lmao

    >end colonial thinking
    So they're gonna leave Taiwan, Tibet and the Souch China Sea alone?

    >Argentina taking back the Falklands
    Yeah good fricking luck with that mate. This time there's an even larger overmatch tech/capability-wise between the UK and Arg. Hell, if the brits sacrifice enough social programs, the cold dead hand of Thatcher will rise from the grave and slap all Argentine air and sea assets into oblivion.

  74. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >China supports Argentina's moronic claim.
    >Helps Argentina build artificial islands right next to the Falklands.
    >Teaches Argentinians how to be the most annoying presence on the South Atlantic.
    >Argentina repeals all laws regarding occupational and food safety protections.
    >2030, escalators and ladders now killing more Argentinians every week than the Falklands War.
    >British tourists flock to Falklands' beaches to watch Argies on the artificial islands next door die from moronic accidents.

  75. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >calls for an end to colonial thinking
    Man, didn't expect to hear China would give up all it's debt traps and pull out of Africa today.

  76. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    >half a century later a bunch of hispanics are still seething over a pile of rocks in the middle of nowhere
    The absolute state of global poltics.

    • 11 months ago
      Anonymous

      >a bunch of spics
      That's slander.
      By blood, most of them are wops and germoids.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        yeah that's what they like to think.

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >half a century later
      dear god, has it already been that long?

  77. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Argentina is close to Brazil so Argentina should really belong to Brazil.

  78. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The islanders have been there many more generations than all the Sicilians / other goblins who moved to Argentina

  79. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    The only appropriate response to hispanics and chinks

    ?t=253

  80. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    Argentina can have the Falklands when it gets its economy together and stops needing loans from the IMF

    I'll wait

  81. 11 months ago
    Anonymous

    I dont think the bongs could pull off what they did on the 1980's:
    >With asiatic assistance it would be a huge game changer, but if there was a fight the bongs would destroy you out of sheer value alone, Englands worth a frick ton more then Argentina!

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I dont think the bongs could pull off what they did on the 1980's
      Price of Wales being laid up is a b***h but Queen Elizabeth alone has more firepower than the combined Invincible and Hermes strike groups did, while Argentina's military is incredibly degraded since then

  82. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    No, the new libertarian orgy guy refuses to play that game. He will close the central bank and open the economy except for China, they are out USA is in.

  83. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Would Argentina be able to take back the Falklands with chinese backing?
    Nope. Argentine economy is normal, their normal, its on brink of total fricking meltdown.

  84. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Would Argentina be able to take back the Falklands with chinese backing?
    No. They'll just continue to impotently seethe, but now China will also join in the seething.

  85. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >could they take it back
    Short answer frick no, the garrison currently there would completely wreck anything Argentina could throw at them and then strikes could waste targets on the mainland.
    >with China
    Sure they could do some big damage with Chinese missiles like they did before but the fallout would be huge. Argentina still wouldnt take the Falklands. Chinese arming Argentina wouldnt go unnoticed and the British response would be bolster defences to match whatever threat level there is.

  86. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    how do you think china is going to start backing argentina? The bongs are easily going to convince the US to intercept weapon shipments from china, and with a little more difficulty, AUS and japan are going to participate as well.
    Even if the missiles are already there, if argentina cant resupply them theres only so much they could use.

  87. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    no

  88. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    Chinese are too patient to start a war, but they would win it. Who expects Britain to actually defend itself in 2023?

    • 10 months ago
      Anonymous

      >who expects britain to actually defend itself in 2023
      >who expects ukraine to actually defend itself in 2022
      >who expects britain to actually defend itself in 1982
      >who expects USA to actually defend itself in 1941

      History is full of stories of morons making assumptions about the resolve and ability of an adversary to fight back.

      • 10 months ago
        Anonymous

        I despise the Chinese, but you have to admit that Great Britain in 1940 and in 2023 (same with most Western countries really) are completely different places. I'm not saying that I think they would win or that Great Britain wouldn't defend herself, but you lads need to worry about the cancer growing within your own society. Indeed, Argentina's only real chance would be to bank on the decline of the English population - pakis and jeets wouldn't care about the Falklands, and might even support it as a way to get back at le ebil colonizers.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          /misc/ is the other board m8

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          I cannot fricking comprehend the level of moronation it takes to think this way just one year and four months after we saw the entire western world come together to back Ukraine against pozziyan aggression
          You’re even responding to another anon pointing out how moronic it is to assume any enemy will take aggression lying down
          Fricking Christ actually just have a nice day please

          • 10 months ago
            Anonymous

            >I cannot fricking comprehend the level of moronation it takes to think this way just one year and four months after we saw the entire western world come together to back Ukraine against pozziyan aggression
            What I'm saying is that in a future where Westerners are a small, dispossed minority in their own countries, we won't be able to do so. The Great Replacement is a National Security concern.
            >You’re even responding to another anon pointing out how moronic it is to assume any enemy will take aggression lying down
            I'm saying that if Britons are displaced by Pakis, then things will be different. The pakis won't give a rat's ass about the Falklands.

            If you really are deluded enough to believe that we wouldn't fight to the last man you're moronic. Hell I'll take the pakis with me for a bit of Chink bashing on the weekend if China starts shit over the Falklands. Only problem is how many of them support fricking United, absolutely shambolic

            Yes, you would fight to the last man, and that's why I respect Bongs. I just doubt that pakis and pajeets would as well.

            • 10 months ago
              Anonymous

              I agree with you, they just done care as much nor do they have the discipline that western men have. Just look at their militaries versus the west’s. India legitimately tries to be a military superpower but continues to fall short due to the moronation and grossness of their people. The great replacement is real.

              • 10 months ago
                Anonymous

                Aye. Should also note that a lot of minorities are Russia supporters, you can see that with a lot of hispanics in the US, I can only assume that pakis and jeets in the UK do so as well, doubly so since their countrymen support the vatnik horde.

        • 10 months ago
          Anonymous

          If you really are deluded enough to believe that we wouldn't fight to the last man you're moronic. Hell I'll take the pakis with me for a bit of Chink bashing on the weekend if China starts shit over the Falklands. Only problem is how many of them support fricking United, absolutely shambolic

  89. 10 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Would Argentina be able to take back the Falklands with chinese backing?
    No.

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