We kind of have to be, if we don't look at the worst case outcomes of our choices - we accidentally make America, while it worked out well in the end we'd rather not do the same again
Alexander Graham Bell owned many of the shittiest telephones ever built and now Chinese peasants make IPhone 14s. And if you think that's a useful comparison you might be OP.
Any tank was horrible to be in back then. You had the engine in the main compartment, meaning you had to endure both the sweltering heat as well as the chemically laced air filling the interior.
The FT17 would probably be the best.
Since while the Whippet did have a separate engine compartment, it was at the front.
So you would get fumes going into the fighting compartment.
You're literally sitting next to an unshielded engine wearing heavy clothes and essentially chainmail to protect you from spall. Also, it's loud as frick, hit as hell and your bones are getting rattled every time the thing moves because LOL what is a suspension?.
And you're driving the single biggest target on the battlefield. As soon as Jerry gets a whiff of you, every fricking gun in range will be dropping shells on your position, and that armour isn't much good against high calibre.
> Your armor isn't much good against high calibre
At least you can be confident most of them will miss,as nobody combined field guns with motor carriages yet.
At ww1 levels no common solider is calling in artillery on targets. There was a big issue on all sides of troops being shelled by their own sides during attacks because no body knew where they were
And, on top of all that and the previous posts, your own artillery is ready to bombard you into a fine, vaguely metallic, bloody paste if your incredibly unreliable and rush built tank breaks down. Can't let Jerry capture the wreck after all.
Honestly, I don't know if I would. At least a single soldier is going to get lost in a mass of men and debris, but a tank is going to draw fire. Only having enough armor to stop a rifle round. Anything else is going to pen or cause spall. Slow, loud, unreliable, likely to get stuck or blown up.
Imagine being in a nightclub while wearing full winter gear and multiple people are shooting the building with the chance of a car bomb being set off, killing you and everyone else inside instantly. You have little to no visibility to the outside world depending on your position
Well yes, never said the tank was the worst place to be on a WWI battlefield. Then again every combat role that wasn't artillery fricking sucked and even artillery was an unenviable position for any non-combat role
incompetence, corruption and arrogance are the key words to understand britain's stance in both world wars, and the only reason why they ultimately won was because they were so incomprehensibly rich that they had the luxury to make unnumbered prototypes and shrug off the toll in terms of manpower and resources. all other nations had to squeeze their think tanks and design ingenious ways to make a machine both combat effective, cheap to produce, versatile and reliable on the field and easy to use.
Britain had been in relative decline since around 1850 or 1870. Just goes to show that the 21st Century will be another American century, even if the US is slowly decaying.
WUT, britian during both wars was the complete opposite, limited resources and money to spend made few prototypes before production. they simply won by shitting out as much equipment as possible. they werent corrupt there just wasnt the money to spend on it and noone thought theyd be another war in europe any time soon, we know this because the country basically shit the bed when hitler invaded the rest of czechoslovacia
>be main tank developer for 10 years >makes mistakes along the way >stop for 10 because expensive >have to play catchup with wartime resource rationing
TBF staying on the cutting edge in the 20-30s was a fool's errand.New tanks were making old stuff obsolete very quickly.Waiting and catching up when development slowed was more cost effective,unless you were France and the enemy was at your door.
>invent the tank >be the forefront of tank development for decades and make lots of weird tanks >people 80 years later get pissed that you made some bad tanks here and there
>invent the tank
Hold it right there, albionic apostate. You can say what you want about improving the design et cetera, but don't start with your usual trite about your country inventing everything, because it's really in bad taste and only the slant eyed demons of Cathay do it
A tank museum is surely likely to retain examples of some the rarest tanks. Perhaps you don't know what a tank museum is, its similar to the 4th Guards Tank Division in your country.
Okay, wild fricking idea: what if North Korea became so confident in their nuclear deterrent that Kimmy downsized the conventional army and created the world's most complete cold war museum for tourists?
British tank museum
Most of the tanks are british or foreign tanks used by british >comments on bad british tanks
Should go to Saumur and shitpost about all the moronic frog tanks from WW1 to now
They didn't even make the worst tanks of WW1
What's the worst, Saint-Chamond?
Though I think overall the Germans made the worst
Good contender at least. The howitzer was utterly moronic but hey, kickbacks are kickbacks
Bongs have always been their own harshest critics
We kind of have to be, if we don't look at the worst case outcomes of our choices - we accidentally make America, while it worked out well in the end we'd rather not do the same again
Alexander Graham Bell owned many of the shittiest telephones ever built and now Chinese peasants make IPhone 14s. And if you think that's a useful comparison you might be OP.
How bad was to be soldier inside the Mark I in WW1
Any tank was horrible to be in back then. You had the engine in the main compartment, meaning you had to endure both the sweltering heat as well as the chemically laced air filling the interior.
Ft17 and whippet had a separate engine compartment IIRC
The FT17 would probably be the best.
Since while the Whippet did have a separate engine compartment, it was at the front.
So you would get fumes going into the fighting compartment.
WHAT? I CAN'T HEAR YOU
WHAT'S THAT?
You're literally sitting next to an unshielded engine wearing heavy clothes and essentially chainmail to protect you from spall. Also, it's loud as frick, hit as hell and your bones are getting rattled every time the thing moves because LOL what is a suspension?.
And you're driving the single biggest target on the battlefield. As soon as Jerry gets a whiff of you, every fricking gun in range will be dropping shells on your position, and that armour isn't much good against high calibre.
> Your armor isn't much good against high calibre
At least you can be confident most of them will miss,as nobody combined field guns with motor carriages yet.
At ww1 levels no common solider is calling in artillery on targets. There was a big issue on all sides of troops being shelled by their own sides during attacks because no body knew where they were
And, on top of all that and the previous posts, your own artillery is ready to bombard you into a fine, vaguely metallic, bloody paste if your incredibly unreliable and rush built tank breaks down. Can't let Jerry capture the wreck after all.
Rather be in a tank than be a common foot soldier
It's funny how as a kid I thought this was a German tank because of "The Last Crusade", as the bad guys operated it.
tbf Germany operated more captured tanks than A7Vs, so it practically is their beutepanzer.
Honestly, I don't know if I would. At least a single soldier is going to get lost in a mass of men and debris, but a tank is going to draw fire. Only having enough armor to stop a rifle round. Anything else is going to pen or cause spall. Slow, loud, unreliable, likely to get stuck or blown up.
Imagine being in a nightclub while wearing full winter gear and multiple people are shooting the building with the chance of a car bomb being set off, killing you and everyone else inside instantly. You have little to no visibility to the outside world depending on your position
but the alternative is being outside the tank in a muddy trench waiting to be charged into machine gun fire
Well yes, never said the tank was the worst place to be on a WWI battlefield. Then again every combat role that wasn't artillery fricking sucked and even artillery was an unenviable position for any non-combat role
WHAT? SOMETHING ABOUT WASP LURKING? I HATE WASPS BUT I DON'T THINK I CAN HIT THEM WITH THE HOWITZER.
HOW IS IT? HOW IS WHAT? THE ENGINE?
>Worst tank is a woman
Checks out
Just bong things. They were never afraid to let the boffins throw shit at the wall and see what sticks.
>British tank museum has British tanks that were shit
>Guy works in a tank museum full of mostly British tanks
>has to pick 5 from the exhibits
imagine my shock.
incompetence, corruption and arrogance are the key words to understand britain's stance in both world wars, and the only reason why they ultimately won was because they were so incomprehensibly rich that they had the luxury to make unnumbered prototypes and shrug off the toll in terms of manpower and resources. all other nations had to squeeze their think tanks and design ingenious ways to make a machine both combat effective, cheap to produce, versatile and reliable on the field and easy to use.
Britain had been in relative decline since around 1850 or 1870. Just goes to show that the 21st Century will be another American century, even if the US is slowly decaying.
Looks like something made by Africans
US is not decaying, it's just being outbred.
Nope. Our federal government has opened the floodgates for aliens to replace us.
WUT, britian during both wars was the complete opposite, limited resources and money to spend made few prototypes before production. they simply won by shitting out as much equipment as possible. they werent corrupt there just wasnt the money to spend on it and noone thought theyd be another war in europe any time soon, we know this because the country basically shit the bed when hitler invaded the rest of czechoslovacia
Someone had their aslyum claim denied? haven't got enough money to pay Ackbar for another boat trip?
>be main tank developer for 10 years
>makes mistakes along the way
>stop for 10 because expensive
>have to play catchup with wartime resource rationing
TBF staying on the cutting edge in the 20-30s was a fool's errand.New tanks were making old stuff obsolete very quickly.Waiting and catching up when development slowed was more cost effective,unless you were France and the enemy was at your door.
hey that was a great tank in indiana jones
yeah, almost as shit as the sherman. almost
>invent the tank
>be the forefront of tank development for decades and make lots of weird tanks
>people 80 years later get pissed that you made some bad tanks here and there
>invent the tank
Hold it right there, albionic apostate. You can say what you want about improving the design et cetera, but don't start with your usual trite about your country inventing everything, because it's really in bad taste and only the slant eyed demons of Cathay do it
there is a difference between a somewhat fanciful and impractical sketch in a notebook and a fully realised and developed vehicle
Seething so hard
A tank museum is surely likely to retain examples of some the rarest tanks. Perhaps you don't know what a tank museum is, its similar to the 4th Guards Tank Division in your country.
Okay, wild fricking idea: what if North Korea became so confident in their nuclear deterrent that Kimmy downsized the conventional army and created the world's most complete cold war museum for tourists?
All 5 of them are Krautshits.
>only non-british tank is not actually a tank
Is what got me.
they do look retro-cool though.
So the side turrets have been proven useful and not implemented in modern tanks? Or superfluous? Or a liability?
And the front super mini machine gun turret used in tank in WW2 the same?
British tank museum
Most of the tanks are british or foreign tanks used by british
>comments on bad british tanks
Should go to Saumur and shitpost about all the moronic frog tanks from WW1 to now