With ammo prices the way they are is it worth it to become an ammo manufacturer?
What’s the cost of entry? Are small scale ammo makers usually profitable?
With ammo prices the way they are is it worth it to become an ammo manufacturer? Whats the cost of entry?
You think the oligarchy is going to let a new boy come in and undercut them ?
I only know one person who does this and it wasnt about saving money. he does it to find the perfect rounds for his guns
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This is why I do it. I buy components separately and put them together in the most precise way. I haven't bought factory rifle ammo in 10 years.
Size brass down to 0.005
Trim to 1.750
CCI #41 Primer
24.6gr CFE223
77gr Sierra Matchking w/ Cannelure
Seat to 2.250
Light-medium use of Lee Factory Crimp die
probably more money in just making the powder.
I think there's only 2 actual makers in the US selling under different brands.
Type 6 ffl here, its a hard damn industry anon. Competing with the likes of winchester or federal is impossible due to economies of scale. Times of panic market driven profit are few and far between and this ammo bull runs all but over.
You must hone your craft as in any industry. Make something innovative. Make something beautiful. Make something that nobody else is making.
Also buy a pet rat now. Dont ask me why, they will be essential for later.
>Type 6 ffl here, its a hard damn industry anon. Competing with the likes of winchester or federal is impossible due to economies of scale
Explain what this means so we know you are not an npc parroting old women "its impossible" soundbytes
It's a frickton of work. And with bullets, powder and primers at all-time israelite levels, I wouldn't even dream of it. You are also opening yourself to lawsuits if you frick up and someone blows their hand or face off. Put down the bong and give up this pipe dream.
good luck finding primers
It can’t hurt to try out with a simple home machine. It’s probably not a profitable hobby but still more profitable than playing video games doing nothing.
I’ve seen boomers selling home made ammo at gun shows for years. You can probably save money (with your own brass) or at least have a meditative new hobby.
You'd be best off exclusively making primers, given that everybody is fricking out of them.
When you say small scale, you mean like half a million to invest, right?
You're honestly not gonna get far even if you've got one of the really fancy Dillon presses with all the auto feeders and that accessory that auto-pulls the handle for you, unless you're just looking to earn an extra couple hundred bucks a month or whatever selling at local gun shows.
What would investing half a million look like?
Probably 20% of what you see in this video:
What would be the profits from half a million per year?
zero for at least a year
also as soon as you get set up, a republican will end up in office and suddenly everyone will stop panic buying ammo for 4 years and you'll most likely go out of business.
Even going at "small scale" production, if you're looking at manufacturing your own powder and primers, you're gonna need to buy and process several dangerous, caustic, and/or explosive chemicals in bulk. That's gonna require several permits, paperwork, inspections, and hiring of chemists and chemical engineers to build and run the thing without having your entire setup blow up like a meth lab.
It's one heck of an initial investment, and it's why you don't see many small business scale ammo producers that aren't buying a lot of their components from other manufacturers. And those components are already inflated in price, so it defeats a lot of the purpose of starting a new company anyways. Unless you're offering some sort of quality improvement that can justify the higher price you'll have to put on it to make even some profit.
You forgot the specialized storage facilities for all those dangerous and toxic materials.
>if you're looking at manufacturing your own powder and primers
even fairly large operations do none of that and just assemble components. the cost of entry into making professional powder has to be many millions. making casings is also prohibitively expensive. bullets can be made on a small scale.
That is what banks are for. If it is a good investment and you have a good business plan you can get the money.
Just make it yourself with reloading equipment and sell it at gunshows. People make real good money doing that.
>With ammo prices the way they are
More like with everything prices the way they are.
Chances are it's just the price of their components and labor has increased. Also we don't know if Burgers will be allowed to have guns in the future, so demand might collapse too. I wouldn't recommend jumping into it, especially now that recession is coming.
I can't find Mk262mod1 blackhills ammo anywhere. So I did the best I could with what powder was available to clone it.
And while my load may be 50fps short of Mk262, the accuracy is better.
You have to make primers and powder. That's the real barrier to entry. Cases and projectiles are easy, but you're not going to make smokeless powder and primer compound in any meaningful amount at home.