the US military ordered it in a base coat that would best suit camouflage. if you think about how painting works having a base coat tan more easily helps with being a light base color. it is easier to darken a color than to lighten a color.
Black is a moronic choice. Works for police or other situations where it should match their uniform. Military guns should never be black. Any shade of green or brown/tan is a wiser choice to blend in. America picked this Big White wiener of a rifle because we typically go to war with desert shitholes since the people we go to war for live in the desert, picrel.
so what are they going to do with the brand new steel/brass hybrid cartridge production line they're building at lake city specifically for the assumed need of long-term 6.8x51 ammo...?
Just gonna build a whole new facility, buy all the production equipment, which differs from a standard ammo production line due to the steel/brass hybrid cartridge design, and then barely use ~250,000 rounds a year for sof groups?
Just based on the infrastructure they're building for 6.8x51, they kinda have to find SOME use for it on a somewhat large scale to warrant an entire new production line that can ONLY produce 6.8x51
Once you realize the US military can do things at scales even bigger than this with having absolutely no use for it you'll understand. And realize how fun it is.
You're wrong this rifle is built for future wars. Heavier bullet = deader drones. Smart scope networked with other assets capable of relaying targeting information = basic grunt squad can volley fire at enemy drones or any other enemy unit with the equivalent of wallhacks. The US military is now prepared for the next war e.g. the drone era and having widespread anti drone gear, when everyone else is still figuring out how to use drones.
>drone tech now working reliably >IVAS 2.0 already being developed >nooooo the smartscope won't work
It's a matter of time. Shit will work. Things won't fail.
Because they've only ever used 5.56 and they're at best of slightly above average intelligence with no particular focus on modern military needs.
They'll be retrained to think in the terms needed to operate that kinda gear. Video games unironically have already primed newer generations to make use of an information rich environment and you can bet researchers will be exploiting this
Rangers are a prime example of just how dogshit American soldiers are. Anyone from any other Airborne Infantry unit knows how poorly Rangers perform in the absolute basics of fieldcraft and patrolling and they're supposed to be the creme of American Infantry. It's actually hilarious the worship you people have for your Rangers, to other armies it has been a long-running joke since 18 of you died to starving somalis with AIDs in the 90s.
no, it really is being issued as a general issue weapon. not just for SF but GI. the roll out system is as follows: >limited unit rollout for DM, replace M14 and M110 >universal rollout for DM, replace most DM M16s >universal rollout for GIs in direct combat roles, replace all M16 and M4 >the M4 and M16 get pushed into the rear to be used as PDWs/SMGs.
the result is that the front line weapon is a heavy caliber rifle that can punch holes in armor for the next few generations. though I really think that they should have just used an AR-10 with a modified stock rather than one that cannot be converted to have the AR systems recoil buffer for later use as a recon-marksman rifle.
Honestly what's the point of going back to a battle rifle? Especially since we just left afghanistan. Also 6.8x51 is armor piercing right? Are they expecting to go after civilians with class 4 plates or something?
Holy fricking shit anon, how can you be such a fricking moron. Its literally the perfect gun that never misses, aims for you, punches through 15cm of adamantium, has 0 recoil and 12 decibel sound signature. It also aimbots every VDV drone within a 57km radius while actually exploding their dicks off. Slava Ukrani!!!
out of all the criticisms of the ngsw, the idea that it's all a big conspiracy to go after civilians who own body armor is the funniest one and shows how much of a persecution mentality so many gun owners have
Would it be fair to say those who browse internet gun communities are more like that than those who hang out with actual people and not be perpetually online?
why not just adopt the 7.62 nato? place an order for 7.62s with a stainless steel base that can sustain 80k psi operating pressure
apparently the fully brass version of the 277 fury is like a 7.62 or even lower powered
yeah no cap. that recoil be bussin fr fr
>tan/desert
Why ?
Cant they just make it black or grey ?
because it doesn't absorb sun light as much so it stays cooler.
Brown also blends into almost every environment.
Because it goes well with ranger green
this. in the midst of putting together a coyote/tan/ranger green kit
the US military ordered it in a base coat that would best suit camouflage. if you think about how painting works having a base coat tan more easily helps with being a light base color. it is easier to darken a color than to lighten a color.
Black is a moronic choice. Works for police or other situations where it should match their uniform. Military guns should never be black. Any shade of green or brown/tan is a wiser choice to blend in. America picked this Big White wiener of a rifle because we typically go to war with desert shitholes since the people we go to war for live in the desert, picrel.
No. It's been a year and i'm still coming to grips with the fact this was chosen over the rm277.
Nah. Hopefully it becomes a DMR.
Maybe NATO can adopt 6.8 as a NATO DMR round.
imo it will only go into sof also it was to be mass issued it would be converted to 7.62 nato bolts and barrels
so what are they going to do with the brand new steel/brass hybrid cartridge production line they're building at lake city specifically for the assumed need of long-term 6.8x51 ammo...?
Just gonna build a whole new facility, buy all the production equipment, which differs from a standard ammo production line due to the steel/brass hybrid cartridge design, and then barely use ~250,000 rounds a year for sof groups?
Just based on the infrastructure they're building for 6.8x51, they kinda have to find SOME use for it on a somewhat large scale to warrant an entire new production line that can ONLY produce 6.8x51
I feel like it wouldn't be the biggest financial blunder that DoD funding has contributed to.
didnt the XM8/OICW cost more before you even count inflation?
and theres literally nothing from that program even used
Once you realize the US military can do things at scales even bigger than this with having absolutely no use for it you'll understand. And realize how fun it is.
>he's never heard of the XSAPI program
Guarantee that we'll be back to the M4 before 2030
Rangers will get this thing. Order too big for just the secret squirrels.
Its a weapon designed to win the last war we fought. Why would it not be desert tan?
I want to lick her belly button so bad
LEGGA FOOTA
You're wrong this rifle is built for future wars. Heavier bullet = deader drones. Smart scope networked with other assets capable of relaying targeting information = basic grunt squad can volley fire at enemy drones or any other enemy unit with the equivalent of wallhacks. The US military is now prepared for the next war e.g. the drone era and having widespread anti drone gear, when everyone else is still figuring out how to use drones.
Why is no one able to realize this??
Because they've only ever used 5.56 and they're at best of slightly above average intelligence with no particular focus on modern military needs.
Because that shit will work about as well as the norden bombsight, and have the electronics fail within a month of deployment.
This reminds me of when boomers told me that my ACOG was gonna explode in combat and I'd need to use muh Matech BUIS
>drone tech now working reliably
>IVAS 2.0 already being developed
>nooooo the smartscope won't work
It's a matter of time. Shit will work. Things won't fail.
They'll be retrained to think in the terms needed to operate that kinda gear. Video games unironically have already primed newer generations to make use of an information rich environment and you can bet researchers will be exploiting this
nu-scopes have been in development for awhile
im pretty sure dumping it in diesel and sand is the first thing they did the day after making a housing
Rangers are SOF dumb dumb. SF and SOF are not the same thing.
Rangers are a prime example of just how dogshit American soldiers are. Anyone from any other Airborne Infantry unit knows how poorly Rangers perform in the absolute basics of fieldcraft and patrolling and they're supposed to be the creme of American Infantry. It's actually hilarious the worship you people have for your Rangers, to other armies it has been a long-running joke since 18 of you died to starving somalis with AIDs in the 90s.
t. bong para and better than you
>t. bong para and better than you
post guns
He doesn't have any since he can only make bait posts
this post reeks of teenager who think he knows everything from a few videos on youtube
Keep sucking up that copium sigger.
0/3 bait, failing.
>SIG fangirls are totally not brainwashed
kek, like clockwork
Bro if you keep making these bad bait posts the head of your department (your brain) is gonna fire you for not improving whatsoever
It's ok anon. I too was a sig fangirl. With basic common sense you too can break free.
(You)
thank you for confirming my suspicion
no, it really is being issued as a general issue weapon. not just for SF but GI. the roll out system is as follows:
>limited unit rollout for DM, replace M14 and M110
>universal rollout for DM, replace most DM M16s
>universal rollout for GIs in direct combat roles, replace all M16 and M4
>the M4 and M16 get pushed into the rear to be used as PDWs/SMGs.
the result is that the front line weapon is a heavy caliber rifle that can punch holes in armor for the next few generations. though I really think that they should have just used an AR-10 with a modified stock rather than one that cannot be converted to have the AR systems recoil buffer for later use as a recon-marksman rifle.
>pig fat and heavy as shit, even if you compare it to a field rifle remington 700 in 270 win
>gas operated, not bolt action
>same recoil as 270 win
Honestly what's the point of going back to a battle rifle? Especially since we just left afghanistan. Also 6.8x51 is armor piercing right? Are they expecting to go after civilians with class 4 plates or something?
The need for improved armor penetration was one of the main reasons the competition was held
Holy fricking shit anon, how can you be such a fricking moron. Its literally the perfect gun that never misses, aims for you, punches through 15cm of adamantium, has 0 recoil and 12 decibel sound signature. It also aimbots every VDV drone within a 57km radius while actually exploding their dicks off. Slava Ukrani!!!
out of all the criticisms of the ngsw, the idea that it's all a big conspiracy to go after civilians who own body armor is the funniest one and shows how much of a persecution mentality so many gun owners have
Would it be fair to say those who browse internet gun communities are more like that than those who hang out with actual people and not be perpetually online?
why not just adopt the 7.62 nato? place an order for 7.62s with a stainless steel base that can sustain 80k psi operating pressure
apparently the fully brass version of the 277 fury is like a 7.62 or even lower powered
Based dubs. Also that's proubably where they started and they kept minmaxing and tweaking until they reached the result we see.
The fat ones will. The 4ft tall latinas will all accidentally dome themselves during range qualification.