Will It finally come to light? Italy desperately needs a new tank, the current one was obsolete already in the gulf war.
Will It finally come to light? Italy desperately needs a new tank, the current one was obsolete already in the gulf war.
Will It finally come to light? Italy desperately needs a new tank, the current one was obsolete already in the gulf war.
anon, this is some fricktard’s deviant art wet dream
100% fake
they should buy our KF51
we should buy their AW249 as Tiger replacement in return
>going from the sexiest MBT there is to the ugliest one
still would be 10000000 times better than the ariete
i want to see it in some real camo before i decide, because i saw a mockup in black, and it looked way better already.
glass jaw tank, but it will stay like this since Italian bridges are weak. am i right?
no
>not enough of a need for heavy armour to excuse the expense
plus
>italian bureaucracy + bribes lel
why italy tanks so weak
god you’re so ducking annoying
The only way into the country that isn't amphibious assault requires going over frick huge mountains. So I guess that has something to do with it.
yes and no
Ariete history is rather complex
Because most money goes to the navy
common misconception
Carabinieri is the military branch that gets the most money, followed by army, aviation and navy
>lives off the legacy of a gun from the 60s
>takes decades to develop a guided round
>buys off based Breda, effectively killing ultrabigdick energy projects like the fast forty and the myriad
>still trying to sell the HITFIST 30
>army announces they want a new IFV, the best they could come up with is pic related A FRICKING YEAR LATER
the only actually good land based thing OTO did were the OTOMATIC and the 60mm gun
What is that? Some sort of Dardo-CV90 mashup?
>why is a country surrounded by water on 3 sides and huge mountains on the other not investing in tank development?
nobody hates italy they'll be fine
God i wish, they are rocking the wheeled sector but I would kill for a new tank, problem is it's not really something they want or need.
>imagine pic related is the testing Ariete with the Centauro 2' turret, I can't find it.
there you go
no it’s not photoshop if anyone’s wondering, there was a vid published recently where the thing was actually moving
Yeah but it was just a test, they will not go further.
Italy has a lot of projects under development so I really doubt they could get the space for a new MBT until end of decade.
>Italy has a lot of projects under development
not really, apart from the AMV
Wait a second, let me order things since I actually said that without checking so now I have to think about it.
>new Mangusta
>lince 2
>centauro 2
>some shit with the Freccia I think
>SFs got a new fancy dune buggy
Yeah you are probably right still the navy has a lot going on so I guess it would cut on budget and tbh my statement on the MBT still stays, they don't use them anyway
>new mangusta
private venture
>lince 2
done
>centauro 2
done
>Freccia
nothingburger
>new fancy buggy
not a big deal
as I said, there’s the AMV and the AICS (which will inevitably win by Rheinmetall)
🙁
I got destroyed by facts and logic
DPP should get published relatively soon, so we'll see what the future holds for out army
I've heard that a brazilian army representative went to the OTO HQ to discuss buying Centauro 2s and while there he saw the AMV PT3 with a L/45 gun, so that would be a nice, unexpected addition
we'll see
in the meanwhile, have PT1
selling OTO would be a fricking godsend
frick those monopolistic c**ts
I believe in OTO supremacy
anon, I…
Can't hear you over the noise of this naval gun
Lalalalalalalalalala
I believe they are trying to hock this towards Brazil to help save the Ariete, but most likely Brazil will end up just slapping the Centauro 2 turret on an 8x8 version of their Guarani ifv.
IMO Brazil should just buy the 8x8 version of the Guarani for it's ifv/apc duties too. The 6x6 variants are too small and unstable.
I’ve recently seen a mockup Leopard 1 hull with Centauro 2 turret as a proposal for them
I think they’ll just buy centauro 2s and that’s it
we’ll see
it’s a render that some intern came up with in like 8 minutes or so
>russia achieves more than italy
in what metric? sucking at everything?
>in what metric?
AIDS and rape and suicide to name a few
The current priority by the Italian MoD is to join the MGCS, if necessary even by selling some Leonardo companies to Rheinmetall.
russias economny is the size of italy.
russias achieves more than italy.
russias better than italy.
Italian vs Russian car, witch would you prefer?
I would prefer Italian Fiat than Russian Lada, this difference represent the technical capability of both countries
>russias achieves more than italy
it achieves more numbers not quality, but what do you expect form country that have more than double of population
Remember Russians produced licences iveco's for their military
those things are supposedly very sturdy
>russias
>achieves
Kek. In what way? Exploiting old Soviet stuff? Or producing a "new stuff" with small series and of Western(!!!) components? Or for entire decades "designing" fake wunderwaffes that will never get into the armed forces (or bare existence)?
In the whole history of Mankind there has never been such a fake "power" as Poopeen's russia.
They just need to unite their forces with the French, Spanish and Portuguese and create a common sub-bloc within NATO with completely unified armaments and military-industrial complex. Judging by what they are doing in cooperation with the French alone - that would be something cool and epic as Hell.