Reminder that the T-34's reputation was astroturfed into existence by the Soviet Union and it actually sucked ass, it was just that the Germans also went full moron with their tanks toward the end
Although HIMARS is very effective I think the FPV drones are more innovative and will leave the min legacy of this war. Every war from here on out will have them.
FPV drones are easily jammed. They aren't new; they're an old ISIS technology which went obsolete as soon as the counter-IED jammers got a software update.
HIMARS are very visible and definitely have been an absolute standout weapon system in particular but the real work horse of this war has been drone corrected artillery of all flavors, the coordinated usage of multiple small observation drones to guide artillery fire in real time has made the entire battlefield a fricking nightmare
it's like the advantage you get from the enemy moving down a pre-sighted range only on demand. who knows how it will factor into other conflicts where one side can actually achieve air superiority but in scenarios like this it's just fricking brutal
HIMARS will absolutely make a mark in history. The T-34 was largely Soviet propaganda.
HIMARS completely removed Russia's ability to do any kind of offensive and heavily forced them to sit tightly on the defensive. Every command post, every ammo dump, every target of any significance was forced to be moved back from the front lines by a ludicrous 80km. Straining Russia's already dogshit logistics to their breaking point.
In just a few weeks Ukie HIMARS capped a general, Kadyrov's pet cuck, a frickhuge ammo warehouse, an entire artillery battery, close to 300 soldiers waiting for a speech by some ass. And that's just the stuff that got reported. The spice trucks are the new irl Freddy Krueger for Russians on the front, and it's only going to get worse since Ukies are getting more and other countries are feverishly ordering them.
>Will HIMARS be the most legendary weapon of the Ukrainian war
Very likely. It's already become a memetic juggernaut, and an illustration of how completely quality can overmatch quantity. >T34 is the most legendary of WWII?
Print out picrel as a reminder: the only thing for which the T-34 is "legendary" is its godawful spalling problem.
>it was definitely armor >source: russian state media
lol
11 months ago
Anonymous
>all those destroyed tanks are actually doctored footage and ukraine is totally kicking ass
wow these discord homosexuals are turbo raiding this place. literally no matter what you say, no matter how factual it is, it boils down to screaming "vatnik" and "thirdie" at people. kek
/k/ is full of moronic twitter children it seems. this place used to be good to objectively talk about stuff.
Lol, no, /k/uck, it won't. Only will be enough for ukies to name their children after it, and then send them to orphanage. Just like with bayraktars and javelins.
Kalibr rockets will be.
>Is the weapon system that completely turned the tune of the war and to this day remains undefeated by the enemy the signature weapon of the war? >NOOOOO IT'S OUR FORGETTABLE SOVIET MILSURP WITH A KILL RATIO OF 1 TO 50!
HIMARS: >fricks Russian supply depots like it just got outta prison >20 units total can grind the Second Army in the World to a halt >crashes NYE party in Avdiivka like the Kool-Aid Man on a killing spree >pinpoint accuracy terrorizes enemy arty crews >M30A1 "Piñata of Death" loadout attends the general's big speech, hilarity ensues >Russian MoD claims to have killed 52 of the 20 in Ukraine; nobody (including them) believes they've scratched the paint on a single one
Ka-52: >check out this impression of a bouncy castle lol >visual confirmation that over a third of the 100 in Ukraine have been turned to scrap, who knows how high the true number is >needs to huck unguided rockets in high ballistic arcs for fear of the Stinger, accuracy consequently goes to shit >Vikhr is a beam-rider, paints a big fat target sign on the chopper while waiting >"sure hope no MANPADs find m-ACK!" >experienced crews now becoming a more endangered species than the Alligator
Many candidates? Maybe. But this one ain't even in the running.
Lmao No one is falling for this bait. The pioruns contribution to this war is incredibly small. Many systems in the same role in Ukraine can replace pioruns completely. Nothing can replace HIMARS capabilities wise
Lol, no, /k/uck, it won't. Only will be enough for ukies to name their children after it, and then send them to orphanage. Just like with bayraktars and javelins.
What accolades drones get in Ukraine will be derived from functioning as forward observation for artillery, not wasting piecemeal mobiks in briar patches and trenches. This is the war that will remind history long-range surface fires are still important, particularly rocket-type platforms.
Drones will be front-and-center in the next war, once the major powers have had a decade to field the purpose-built version of AliExpress-delivered RPGs.
Long range surface fires are still important *if you don't have air superiority*. The whole reason HIMARS never got much use by the US Army is because it was faster to call in an airstrike. In the case of SDBs it was the same damn munitions even, just airdropped.
That's why the USMC is training to use HIMARS for island control and antishipping duties, and DARPA wants C-130 sized ground effect cargo craft, because there's only one place left on Earth where US air supremacy is not a guarantee within hours.
What would happen if US or Bongs provided just a few HIMARS launchers in February?
Do you think Ziggers would lose their shit and actually nooooook if their Kiev convoy suddenly got annihilated by the storm of tungsten balls?
That didn't happen because Russia was expected to win. Stingers and Javelins can be used by insurgents to frick with supply lines so that's what was offered.
>implying
first part: yes
second part: weak bait.
i wonder if there will be kids named after himars like tony blair in kosovo.
Iirc there are alreqdy kids being named Javelin or derivatives thereof in Ukraine
Depends on whether ATACMS will arrive before the war is effectively over.
The nukes probably will have that honor.
Putin will be assassinated from inside his own cabinet before anyone lets his moronic ass end the world
Reminder that the T-34's reputation was astroturfed into existence by the Soviet Union and it actually sucked ass, it was just that the Germans also went full moron with their tanks toward the end
It'll be John Deere.
As far as western weapon systems go you would have to conduct some extreme mental gymnastics to say it’s anything other than the HIMARS.
Its had the most visible and disproportionate effect for sure
Although HIMARS is very effective I think the FPV drones are more innovative and will leave the min legacy of this war. Every war from here on out will have them.
FPV drones are easily jammed. They aren't new; they're an old ISIS technology which went obsolete as soon as the counter-IED jammers got a software update.
HIMARS are very visible and definitely have been an absolute standout weapon system in particular but the real work horse of this war has been drone corrected artillery of all flavors, the coordinated usage of multiple small observation drones to guide artillery fire in real time has made the entire battlefield a fricking nightmare
it's like the advantage you get from the enemy moving down a pre-sighted range only on demand. who knows how it will factor into other conflicts where one side can actually achieve air superiority but in scenarios like this it's just fricking brutal
HIMARS will absolutely make a mark in history. The T-34 was largely Soviet propaganda.
HIMARS completely removed Russia's ability to do any kind of offensive and heavily forced them to sit tightly on the defensive. Every command post, every ammo dump, every target of any significance was forced to be moved back from the front lines by a ludicrous 80km. Straining Russia's already dogshit logistics to their breaking point.
In just a few weeks Ukie HIMARS capped a general, Kadyrov's pet cuck, a frickhuge ammo warehouse, an entire artillery battery, close to 300 soldiers waiting for a speech by some ass. And that's just the stuff that got reported. The spice trucks are the new irl Freddy Krueger for Russians on the front, and it's only going to get worse since Ukies are getting more and other countries are feverishly ordering them.
>Will HIMARS be the most legendary weapon of the Ukrainian war
Very likely. It's already become a memetic juggernaut, and an illustration of how completely quality can overmatch quantity.
>T34 is the most legendary of WWII?
Print out picrel as a reminder: the only thing for which the T-34 is "legendary" is its godawful spalling problem.
There's many candidates
LMAO. The most shootdown attack helicopter of all time
It is very strong. Saw the vids of it obliterating lots of armor
Saw more vids of it vibrating itself stupid and getting clapped
Have not seen that video. Post it if you like.
>Saw the vids of it obliterating lots of armor
you mean lots of tractors shill
No it was definitely armor
>it was definitely armor
>source: russian state media
lol
>all those destroyed tanks are actually doctored footage and ukraine is totally kicking ass
wow these discord homosexuals are turbo raiding this place. literally no matter what you say, no matter how factual it is, it boils down to screaming "vatnik" and "thirdie" at people. kek
/k/ is full of moronic twitter children it seems. this place used to be good to objectively talk about stuff.
Yeah, I saw the video of its tail falling off.
>The most shootdown attack helicopter of all time
That'd still be the AH-1, the US lost a stupid amount of helicopters in Vietnam
>Is the weapon system that completely turned the tune of the war and to this day remains undefeated by the enemy the signature weapon of the war?
>NOOOOO IT'S OUR FORGETTABLE SOVIET MILSURP WITH A KILL RATIO OF 1 TO 50!
HIMARS:
>fricks Russian supply depots like it just got outta prison
>20 units total can grind the Second Army in the World to a halt
>crashes NYE party in Avdiivka like the Kool-Aid Man on a killing spree
>pinpoint accuracy terrorizes enemy arty crews
>M30A1 "Piñata of Death" loadout attends the general's big speech, hilarity ensues
>Russian MoD claims to have killed 52 of the 20 in Ukraine; nobody (including them) believes they've scratched the paint on a single one
Ka-52:
>check out this impression of a bouncy castle lol
>visual confirmation that over a third of the 100 in Ukraine have been turned to scrap, who knows how high the true number is
>needs to huck unguided rockets in high ballistic arcs for fear of the Stinger, accuracy consequently goes to shit
>Vikhr is a beam-rider, paints a big fat target sign on the chopper while waiting
>"sure hope no MANPADs find m-ACK!"
>experienced crews now becoming a more endangered species than the Alligator
Many candidates? Maybe. But this one ain't even in the running.
NOOONOO OOO MAKEEE IT STOPPPPP SHAKININGINGINGING
infantry spam with rocket support
No. Normies dontknow it and there won't be enough combat footage of it.
The Piorun unironically
Lmao No one is falling for this bait. The pioruns contribution to this war is incredibly small. Many systems in the same role in Ukraine can replace pioruns completely. Nothing can replace HIMARS capabilities wise
Lol, no, /k/uck, it won't. Only will be enough for ukies to name their children after it, and then send them to orphanage. Just like with bayraktars and javelins.
Kalibr rockets will be.
Potentially.
I would change that "potentially" to "certainly" should ATACMS ever be provided. To be reunited with M31 GMRLS; the most iconic duo.
oh man ATACMS would seal the deal on placing HIMARS as the iconic weapon of the war.
Yeah, like when they fire a rocket from himars at azov prisoners was awesome.
I can't wait for the CoD game where we can call in the HIMARS strike!
Himars for the pigs and lancets for the zigs
>just like T34 is the most legendary of WWII
LMAO. Fricking german heavy shitboxes are more "legendary" than anything russian.
Top three, any order
>1. HIMARS
>2. Javelin/NLAW
>3. TB-2
Whichever weapon system takes down the Kerch Bridge gets the top spot.
The rest:
>Patriot
>HARM
>Neptune
>RPG Humvee
>M777
>Stormshadow
>Russian cigarettes
However, the true GOATs are NATO glowies, satellites, and recon drones and sniffa planes flying in penis patterns.
>TB-2
In the "worst performance vs expectations" category maybe.
Nope, it was great to stall russian invasion.
it did great work while russia had all it's air defense turned off
since then it's not been able to do much
IMO, it's way overrated compared to the other weapons mentioned
No, it did its job perfectly.
unironically it may be commercial drones dropping grenades into sunroofs
The only thing from this conflict history books will mention is drones. Sorry homosexuals
What accolades drones get in Ukraine will be derived from functioning as forward observation for artillery, not wasting piecemeal mobiks in briar patches and trenches. This is the war that will remind history long-range surface fires are still important, particularly rocket-type platforms.
Drones will be front-and-center in the next war, once the major powers have had a decade to field the purpose-built version of AliExpress-delivered RPGs.
Long range surface fires are still important *if you don't have air superiority*. The whole reason HIMARS never got much use by the US Army is because it was faster to call in an airstrike. In the case of SDBs it was the same damn munitions even, just airdropped.
That's why the USMC is training to use HIMARS for island control and antishipping duties, and DARPA wants C-130 sized ground effect cargo craft, because there's only one place left on Earth where US air supremacy is not a guarantee within hours.
Yes and Patriot too, this thing saved a hundreds of lives for sure
t.ukrainian
What would happen if US or Bongs provided just a few HIMARS launchers in February?
Do you think Ziggers would lose their shit and actually nooooook if their Kiev convoy suddenly got annihilated by the storm of tungsten balls?
That didn't happen because Russia was expected to win. Stingers and Javelins can be used by insurgents to frick with supply lines so that's what was offered.
If Ukraine had accurate cluster munitions in Feb 2022 the war might be over by now.
just imagine 3 or 4 ah10 dabbing on these fools