>But the main victories by italian frogmen were against the british
There were certain events immediately post war that may or may not have been reprisal attacks against the Soviets
They didn't have to look as far to find enemy ships, their encoding machine wasn't decoded, and they had more short range reactive style submarines while the Germans had more a search and destroy style submarines.
They had an entire navy department dedicated specifically to developing midget subs. German ones were "try random shit until something works" typical of small wartime design bureaus.
>Why were italians so much better in submarine warfare than germans? >Only Italian Navy combat is in enclosed sea very close to home ports, has few subs, suffers few losses >Kriegsmarine operates in all of North Atlantic, has many subs, tech languishes as war drags on, high loses
It's a mystery.
That's not true. As a matter of fact, the sub with the second highest tonnage sank in ww2 was the Leonardo da Vinci, an italian Calvi class. She was supposed to bomb New York and went really close to doing it before the attack was called off. Italian subs and ships engaged the allies and later germans all over the world, not only in the med, that's slander. Infact, this very sub was sunk by a british destroyer and a frigate destroyer in the middle of the atlantic. Another calvi class, the Enrico Tazzoli, reached third position. Both outdamaged the american submarine with the highest tonnage sank, the USS Tang
>A simple lever in the wienerpit irreversibly started the torpedo and released it. >Though not designed as a suicide weapon, the Neger would frequently become one when the torpedo started running but failed to release, and carried the craft and its pilot toward the target.[2] >About 200 vessels of this type were manufactured in 1944. The first Neger vessels entered service in March 1944. However, the Neger turned out to be very hazardous for its operator and up to 80 percent were killed. In return one cruiser, one destroyer, and three Catherine Class BAMS minesweepers were sunk in 1944 with the weapon.[3] >The first mission took place on the night of 20/21 April 1944. Thirty Negers were launched against Allied ships berthed in Anzio. Only 17 of them managed to deploy, with the other 13 capsizing upon reaching the water. Three failed to return and up until then, the Allies had no knowledge of this new unusual weapon. None had made any successful attacks.
It gets more metal when you read about the motor torpedo boat crews who were tasked with anti-neger duties. Hard targets to shoot but easy to run over crushing the perspex dome. Even stories of motor launches tasked with pulling alongside and smashing the dome with an axe to ensure the operator drowned.
Bullshit, non affiliated italians are the meekest most submissive minorities out there, they're even quieter than wasps. Little Italy is now a giant chink massage parlor, everyone went to queens and even then it's all old men now
There was barely any contact between pastaroma and the dong empire except for trade, which was mainly the romans paying silver out the ass for spice and silk.
Now if you said turks or something thatd be different. Some turks ruled china for a short time iirc around 3rd century. Sogdians i believe
I know Italians were notoriously incompetent but if a better nation would've put a lot of effort into this how good could it have been?
Because the concept is really cool.
But the main victories by italian frogmen were against the british
this is what the italian made. they basically created a slow moving torpedo with the charge onto the prow that was detatchable. the frogmen would get close to the keel, unscrew the charge off the torpedo, stick it to the keel and set off the counter.
the krauts, being the overachieving autists they were, made a boat out of two torpedoes, one that functioned as a minisub and the other that would be launched like a normal torpedo from a bigger sub. too bad they fricked up so bad with so many things that the sailors died like fricking looney tunes.
Yeah, hide
>less submarine
>less losses
>higher K/D
You should go back to 4th grade since you don't understand how ratios work
germoney
>1000 submarines losses
>2000 kills
K/D 2
italy
>50 submarines
>200 kills
K/D 4
You should go to some retirement home, you senile boomer
More fun swimming in the Med than freezing your nuts off in the Baltic.
>neger
Further away from the British.
But the main victories by italian frogmen were against the british
>But the main victories by italian frogmen were against the british
There were certain events immediately post war that may or may not have been reprisal attacks against the Soviets
Britain deleted almost all of Italys Navy tho
They didn't have to look as far to find enemy ships, their encoding machine wasn't decoded, and they had more short range reactive style submarines while the Germans had more a search and destroy style submarines.
>their encoding machine wasn't decoded
It didn't need to lol. Italy effectively ceased to even be a faction of WW2 in September of 1943.
And the entire generation of the people in the right is being slaughtered in the Ukraine's swamplands as we speak.
>And the entire generation of the people in the right is being slaughtered in the Ukraine's swamplands as we speak.
>it happened in my mind
Whatever helps you sleep at night bro. Just know your military is losing to a bunch of moronic slav Black folk
They had an entire navy department dedicated specifically to developing midget subs. German ones were "try random shit until something works" typical of small wartime design bureaus.
>Why were italians so much better in submarine warfare than germans?
>Only Italian Navy combat is in enclosed sea very close to home ports, has few subs, suffers few losses
>Kriegsmarine operates in all of North Atlantic, has many subs, tech languishes as war drags on, high loses
It's a mystery.
That's not true. As a matter of fact, the sub with the second highest tonnage sank in ww2 was the Leonardo da Vinci, an italian Calvi class. She was supposed to bomb New York and went really close to doing it before the attack was called off. Italian subs and ships engaged the allies and later germans all over the world, not only in the med, that's slander. Infact, this very sub was sunk by a british destroyer and a frigate destroyer in the middle of the atlantic. Another calvi class, the Enrico Tazzoli, reached third position. Both outdamaged the american submarine with the highest tonnage sank, the USS Tang
interesting read from June 2's parade this year
http://www.hisutton.com/Italy-COMSUBIN-Submarine.html
>A simple lever in the wienerpit irreversibly started the torpedo and released it.
>Though not designed as a suicide weapon, the Neger would frequently become one when the torpedo started running but failed to release, and carried the craft and its pilot toward the target.[2]
>About 200 vessels of this type were manufactured in 1944. The first Neger vessels entered service in March 1944. However, the Neger turned out to be very hazardous for its operator and up to 80 percent were killed. In return one cruiser, one destroyer, and three Catherine Class BAMS minesweepers were sunk in 1944 with the weapon.[3]
>The first mission took place on the night of 20/21 April 1944. Thirty Negers were launched against Allied ships berthed in Anzio. Only 17 of them managed to deploy, with the other 13 capsizing upon reaching the water. Three failed to return and up until then, the Allies had no knowledge of this new unusual weapon. None had made any successful attacks.
>Mfw I'm not Italian
The funniest thing about it is the name.
>Neger
was called that because the designer's last name was mohr (moor), who weren't even black
It gets more metal when you read about the motor torpedo boat crews who were tasked with anti-neger duties. Hard targets to shoot but easy to run over crushing the perspex dome. Even stories of motor launches tasked with pulling alongside and smashing the dome with an axe to ensure the operator drowned.
Shut the frick up I said
why can't we have a single thread even remotely regarding italy without this one sperg chimping about them
did a wop steal your gfd or something
why are you calling him a germ
germoids don't act this triggered over a clearly humorous matter
italians were never white, but neither are russians
why are you comparing the two as if italians raped your babushka
Both Italians and Slavic people are white, you moron.
iirc every European nation is white as per US census bar Spain for some reason
>why are you calling him a germ
He got triggered, it happens.
You just know this triggers French people
why would it
also
>Japan, 1
how do the weeaboos cope?
Bullshit, non affiliated italians are the meekest most submissive minorities out there, they're even quieter than wasps. Little Italy is now a giant chink massage parlor, everyone went to queens and even then it's all old men now
There was barely any contact between pastaroma and the dong empire except for trade, which was mainly the romans paying silver out the ass for spice and silk.
Now if you said turks or something thatd be different. Some turks ruled china for a short time iirc around 3rd century. Sogdians i believe
I know Italians were notoriously incompetent but if a better nation would've put a lot of effort into this how good could it have been?
Because the concept is really cool.
anon, I…
that's a german manned torpedo you mong
this is what the italian made. they basically created a slow moving torpedo with the charge onto the prow that was detatchable. the frogmen would get close to the keel, unscrew the charge off the torpedo, stick it to the keel and set off the counter.
the krauts, being the overachieving autists they were, made a boat out of two torpedoes, one that functioned as a minisub and the other that would be launched like a normal torpedo from a bigger sub. too bad they fricked up so bad with so many things that the sailors died like fricking looney tunes.
More water
she not arab she italian
built for handholding, cuddles and delicate but passionate kisses
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