Why this canopy shape?

Why do major militaries use this parachute design, but only for unguided cargo? 'Steerable' JPADS-like systems use parafoils and paratroopers use round canopies.
>UK Forces airdrop food in Gaza

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  1. 2 months ago
    Anonymous
    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous
  2. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cruciforms open faster, descend slower, and have less tendency for violent rotations. IIRC the US uses a cruciform parachute for static line jumpers

  3. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    The Low Cost Low Altitude Cross Parachute (LCLA) provides a cost-effective, pre-packed, one time use solution for non-recoverable air drops, capable of delivering payloads ranging from 80 to 600 pounds. A single LCLA Cross Parachute can deliver payloads ranging from 80 to 200 pounds. The option to cluster two parachute canopies increases the weight range from 201 to 400 pounds, while three parachute canopies can be clustered for payloads ranging from 401 to 600 pounds. The LCLA parachute is a practical solution, offering versatility in cargo delivery for scenarios where payload size and weight may vary.

    The Cross Parachute design is commonly used for unguided cargo drops due to its cost-effectiveness and stability. It’s a simple design that is relatively inexpensive to produce, making it a practical choice for delivering large quantities of cargo.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >A single LCLA Cross Parachute can deliver payloads ranging from 80 to 200 pounds.
      Those boxes are definitely heavier than 200 lbs. They did look like they landed way too fast in that one vid from the ground for anything other than MRE.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >A single LCLA Cross Parachute can deliver payloads ranging from 80 to 200 pounds
      A case of 10 HDRs weighs 24 pounds, so that's 8 cases+pallet per chute. 12 chutes there, so 960 HDRs. That's 960 people for a day or 137 people for a week.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        That's way too many

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      What’s the wing loading on those? I run 1.6-1.7 depending on the season

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Thanks chatgpt

  4. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    wobm

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      neat

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That flag is going to be burned lol

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        At the very least, some kids will see who's providing them food, a few of them might grow up to question the narrative that the West is Satan.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          > a few of them might grow up to question the narrative that the West is Satan.

          Kind of hard when the West is also providing the bombs, m8

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            t. 'Leftwing' Nazi

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          the west IS satan though

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            Yall got internet in the gaza strip?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      That's rad.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >UKAid
      Bangers and mash

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >dropping British """""food""""" on civilians

      I have my gripes with the palestinians too but jesus christ...

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >first thing you hear upon ripping open the aid box is a "hello pee-pole"

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          don't look around, don't take your kids, just run

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        War crime

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        bioweapon attack
        when will Iran send suicide 747s to Westminster and the Big Ben?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >posting gore on a blue board

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        God damn, that shit look bussin fr fr no cap.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >sorry we gave your land to the israelites so you ended up imprisoned on this shit strip
      >but here is some kidney and liver pie so we good now?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >“British people could have eaten that flag!”

      - DailyFail readers

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        >Palestinian kids in kebab
        the circle of life in the norf

  5. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    They handle large weight shockload on opening with a smaller footprint than a full round does.

  6. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >Br'ish HUMRAT pack consisting of :
    >3 bo'aw o water
    >2 cans of Iron Bru
    >Fish n chips, large
    >2 toast buttys, extra toasted
    >A Gregg's sausage roll
    >Baked beans

  7. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >thousands of jars of marmite and some strongbow

  8. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    >feeding roaches
    Seems pointless to me

  9. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cruciform parachutes, shaped like a cross, offer some advantages over traditional dome-shaped parachutes:
    Faster Inflation: Due to their design, cruciform parachutes tend to inflate quicker upon deployment. This reduces the opening shock experienced by the jumper or payload, making for a smoother descent.
    Stability: The cruciform shape offers inherent stability during descent. This is because the air flows more predictably around the canopy, reducing oscillations and swaying.
    Lower Cost: The simpler design of a cruciform parachute can make it less expensive to manufacture compared to a complex parafoil canopy.
    Steerability (with modification):While not as maneuverable as a parafoil, some cruciform designs can be adapted with steering systems for a degree of directional control during descent.

    Here's a breakdown of some trade-offs:
    Gliding: Cruciform parachutes generally don't glide as well as parafoils. This means less horizontal travel during descent compared to a dome with a more airfoil-like shape.
    Controllability: Traditional dome parachutes offer more maneuverability through toggles or risers, allowing for better control during landing.

    Overall, cruciform parachutes are a good choice for applications where fast inflation, stability, and affordability are priorities. They are often used for:
    Drogue Chutes: These smaller parachutes are used to stabilize a larger deployment bag or payload before the main parachute opens.
    Recovery Parachutes: Cruciform designs are common in recovery parachutes for drones, rockets, and other aerial vehicles.
    Military Applications: Their stability and affordability make cruciform parachutes suitable for certain military deployments.

  10. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    I am a currently serving paratrooper. We utilize a 'square' shaped T-11 parachute. It has four vent holes, one in each corner. It's meant to provide a safer landing than the old round T-10s, but I haven't noticed a difference. It is somewhat similar in design to what you have posted. Of note, it is way less maneuverable than round parachutes, especially the MC-6. AMA

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Any observed frick ups yet?
      And what do you reckon the future of paratroopers are in future and current wars?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        I've seen one cigarette roll that was fatal and some minor issues. A cigarette roll is when the chute fails to catch any air and you just freefall. The other issues like twisted risers, fast descent, etc are usually jumper error and can easily be fixed. The biggest determining factor to a good jump is weather in my opinion. I'd jump a T10 or T11, doesn't matter.

        Also, I believe there is a future for Airborne. First, as a way to select for more highly motivated and capable troops. Second, it still has a use in LSCO assuming the AirForce can effectively conduct SEAD, and main body links up with the Airborne Force in time. See Hostomel, in my opinion VDV did well enough there. They vertically enveloped high value terrain and held out for ~48 hours. This is the doctrinal job of a paratrooper.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          They didn't jump at Hostomel though. There were tiny numbers of troops who actually inserted by air around certain other sites in the capital-axis, but the Hostomel plan was DOA as soon as the Il-76s were unable to continue landing.

        • 2 months ago
          Anonymous

          Hostomel was via helo, dipship.

          • 2 months ago
            Anonymous

            See vertical envelopment. My point stands, regardless of if the envelopment is via air assault or parachute.

            Is Blood on the Risers still popular?

            Yes and no. Last I heard it was when everyone was near black out drunk at a 4th of July party. Basically every paratrooper knows it, but it isn't really listened to or played in any official capacity.

            • 2 months ago
              Anonymous

              How is it suggestive for the future of airborne ops? They basically just got an air shuttle to the fight after a bunch of attack helos did some preliminary strafing runs on exceptionally under-manned defenders. If any western military's paras organized an invasion that sloppy, with no backup plan if they can't land more cargo planes, the western public would rightly declare that paratroopers need to go.

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      >I haven't noticed a difference
      Ask around some jumpmasters for the old powerpoints which have the stats. It has a reduced injury rate at the cost of being more sensitive to how you go out the door.

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        What do you mean by more sensitive?

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      You ever take a shit and find no matter how many times you wipe it's already spotless? Do they train you how to do that?

      • 2 months ago
        Anonymous

        you eat a lot of fiber dummy

        i take a smooth, clean, spotless shit every single time unless i've been drinking heavily

    • 2 months ago
      Anonymous

      Is Blood on the Risers still popular?

  11. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    Cheap and functional.

  12. 2 months ago
    Anonymous

    war crime trials for supplying terrorists when

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