Yes they do. How the frick do you train with a training grenade without a pin? This isn't Russia circa 1942 where we train with potatoes, this is the current year where you have safety pins, you have handles, and you have little pops that come from the training grenade after an appropriate amount of time.
>rocks are free
what is this robber baron capitalist nonsense? rock are PROPERTY OF THE STATE, comrade, and if you are in sufficient need of a rock - or pebble - then one shall be issued to you for the duration of that particular need (provided you duly fill out the rock - or pebble - series of requisition forms).
NOW ENJOY SIBERIA, YOU ROCK-HOARDING KULAK!
Of course they do. There's frick-all point in having a training grenade that doesn't simulate the actual pin pull. The pin and the handle are half the fricking thing the average soldier has to remember.
If your country's military doesn't do this, then you should be worried.
They absolutely do. A training grenade, at least in the American military, is basically a real grenade with the main explosive removed. It's the same fuse and clips and spoon and everything as the real deal.
>grenade blows up on ground level next to car >car has a nice bit of ground clearance beneath it >grenade splinters bounce off under carriage and ground underneath car >shreds your angles
Why hiding behind cars in urban scenarios can be a problem too as bullets and pellets are liable to do the same. Might not be as bad when there's dirt and sand underneath, but distance might be a better friend
t. my ass
I could pick out 3 from my own squad who could be dumb enough to do that.
It's something of a miracle how Western militaries manage to function.
It's an even greater miracle how the militaries of the rest of the world are somehow even worse.
That old adage of how victory in war is a question of who makes the least mistakes is starting to seem like a nobler truth with each passing day.
that's got to be one of the more annoying ways to die. I could think of more painful and overall worse, but that has to be such a fricking bummer in the split second between realizing what you just did and the grenade going off.
>It's something of a miracle how Western militaries manage to function
I was 6 months in Kosovo for some office work but technically I was serving in the army and I had to deal with people from the greek, italian, norwegian, dutch, british, french, american,... army and the average IQ was probably around 45, officers included.
1 year ago
Anonymous
hello Kosovo veteran. One of my platoon sgts was doing a patrol in a village when a T34/85 popped out to them. Of course it did not penetrate the Abrams. Sgt shot a SABOT through it which did nothing to the crew because it's armor was so thin. The armor was so thin the SABOT did nothing to it. Shot a HEAT and the turret popped. It was confirmed by record, and because tanking is a small world a few NCOs in our battalion confirmed the store. Crazy shit. My Sgt also killed a shit ton of people in Iraq like it was nothing, but that's another story.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>My Sgt also killed a shit ton of people in Iraq like it was nothing, but that's another story.
that i was there for btw
1 year ago
Anonymous
I know it's PrepHole shit, but people do sometimes game on overpenetration in World of Warships, where they present broadsides against BBs in their skinskinned cruisers so they shoot right through them without doing much damage. It works right up until the BB switches from AP to HE and split your butthole apart, or just hit something important anyway, but it's a fun little trick. American Tier 4-5 cruisers are great at it.
Also, how much action did Burger tanks see in Yugoslavia?
1 year ago
Anonymous
are you my agent? Did they really assign someone to me? A fat fricking moron that only gets off to BJ hypno and Traps?
I just don't understand you guys....
You know I'm too fat to be of any danger
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, I'm some Dane on a shitty internship that's basically daycare for adults trying to pass time in between brewing beer and trying to find an actual internship in an actual company.
1 year ago
Anonymous
oh ok, you talk of world of warships scared me
good luck on your internship though, ignore the BJ hypno and trap stuff though
1 year ago
Anonymous
Thanks.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Doubt, you'd still have significant spalling inside.
I don't doubt that everyone thought this, though, such is the nature of joelore.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>the average IQ was probably around 45, officers included
Lets be real here, the officers aren't helping keep the average up.
I am personally convinced officers have a permanent 50% debuff to IQ, spatial awareness and navigation skills.
99% of accidents are. It's why I hold such a burning hatred and loathing against them. All it would take is a little more sense or intelligence or care to avoid most accidents but no. The people involved didn't have what it took, and so some loved family member has to die a brutal, bloody and violent death, and his or her family has to grieve through the experience.
Coming back to that .50 being used as a hammer, that's a happy ending, altogether. All the guy probably lost was his hand, and not his life.
>trim hedges >with a lawnmower
I may be a stupid, lazy motherfricker, but I will always appreciate the fact that there are people dumber and lazier than I am.
When I was an MSG a watchstander in Poland put a bullet through a monitor, computer, and lodged it into the window practicing his draw at like 2 in the morning on post.
I remember hearing a radio commercial that said something like this. It was some kind of OSHA safety thing and used some moron who got both arms chopped off at a wood mill as the tard example.
I went to Fort Benning for my basic training and I saw this shit plastered all over the barracks. This shit was right in front of the urinal to distract me while I pissed, too.
I'm sure starting some of the disassembly pins of some weapons with the tip of a FMJ round was official.
I don't mean using one as a drift and hammering it with a rock, but it's a handy pointy thing all will have handy
Can a .50 in your hand really cause that much damage? I know they are huge but generally if something explodes outside of the chamber (or a mostly sealed container) it doesn’t generate much pressure. I’m surprised it’s so mangled
It's an explosion in the palm of your hand, and .50 cal is a BIG explosion compared to other rounds.
If it had detonated sitting on his open palm it probably wouldn't have done much. But the guy was gripping it in a "hammer fist" sort of hold with his fingers wrapped around it so that's a very different scenario.
see https://youtu.be/vJ9jOGde4ws?t=140
Normally a cartridge is surrounded by the chamber, and the explosion accelerates the bullet through the barrel.
In this case, the energy went into exploding the shell itself.
So it appears the answer is yes and that I’m underestimating how much fingers can contain the pressure. Good to know
If it had detonated sitting on his open palm it probably wouldn't have done much. But the guy was gripping it in a "hammer fist" sort of hold with his fingers wrapped around it so that's a very different scenario.
>I’m surprised it’s so mangled
Lets do a visual thought experiment. Lets take this .50 bmg cartridge. Lets pop the bullet part off, then pour all the gunpowder in the cartridge into your palm, and examine it. After all that, lets drop a lit match into that mound of explosive powder inside your palm.
Should we be surprised that our hand is now horrifically mangled?
>After all that, lets drop a lit match into that mound of explosive powder inside your palm. >Should we be surprised that our hand is now horrifically mangled?
lol
nogunz confirmed
NTA, your hand would burn, but it wouldn’t be mangled like the other guy’s hand. The brass allows the pressure to build up high enough before rupturing to mangle a hand.
see https://youtu.be/vJ9jOGde4ws?t=140
Normally a cartridge is surrounded by the chamber, and the explosion accelerates the bullet through the barrel.
In this case, the energy went into exploding the shell itself.
.50 BMG has an extremely thick case and military ammo has some incredibly heavy crimps on the bullet. It's enough to let the pressure build a lot more than, say, a 5.56 round before case failure.
They just learnt that some of their soldiers are moronic enough to use live rounds as hammers, so it make sense they went as blunt as possible
But they meant the flat end of the round, since that's where the primer is, right? Shouldn't it be relatively safe to hit with the bullet end? Or would that cause bullet setback and increase pressure into the casing and somehow set off the primer?
Reminds me. Denmark suffered 50 deaths during the GWOT and 3 of those were from three Danes and two Germans trying to open and disarm an old Russian artillery shell with a hammer and screwdriver.
>trying to open and disarm an old Russian artillery shell with a hammer and screwdriver
Wanst it an old Russian AA missile? And it was super lucky there werent even more people killed, a whole bunch of other people were standing around watching them trying to dismantle the rocket.
Less weight to carry. Plus, who needs any sort of safety device? I get all my 1911s with a 1.5 lb trigger pull, remove the trigger guard, and permanently lock down the grip safety. I carry wienered and locked and have NEVER had a problem. This guy just wasn't very good at trigger discipline.
unironically this is how it was carried back in the day, and many nations did away with the grip safety
old school SAO manual of arms has you keep the safety on 24/7 and only flip it off after readying the pistol
when you lower the gun in any way the safety comes on again
you joke, but over here in sweden the center part of the paper target (yes we have a government-approved standard bullseye target, deal with it) comes off so you can just exchange the bit that gets shot more often. dont be wasteful anons.
I won't talk shit, I got sub-MOA groups with cheap swiss ammo meanwhile other expensive ammo like hornady black got like 1.5 MOA in my rifle or some shit. You guys are based, keep doing what you're doing.
Bodeos have atrocious triggers that are staple gun like. Many double action Euro revolvers from the 1870s to 1890s have atrocious triggers in general do I don't blame him for not shooting a super tight group. At least he's actually shooting the thing.
Why is it always "never skip leg day" but never "never skip finger day"?
That actually has me wondering. Naturally, train and practice with what you plan on using for best results but would building finger strength using a heavy trigger be an advantage? Say you carry a 92fs but practice with idk a model 10 or god help you a 20lb trigger bodeo, would you have any kind of edge over someone who maybe practices quick shooting with a lighter trigger building better fast twitch dexterity?
Buncha excuses, brother. Why are you comparing yourself to me, an anonymous stranger. You should be aiming for the stars, not for me.
Also, you've got those nice three hits on the bullseye, 6 in the 8-ring just about, but then a few go way off mark. What's your excuse? If you managed to land those good hits, why couldn't you hit the rest?
>12lb sa trigger /20lb da trigger gun
based revolver made to be fired only by titans and gods
everyone else brutally filtered
>he doesn't own a pair of bodeos to practice trigger strengthening on
I unironically have nightmares about impossibly heavy trigger springs all the time. Like I need to shoot somebody and I'm just not strong enough to pull the trigger on my own gun and I just die like an butthole.
This is very common among police officers and soldiers, that you are having this as a civilian shows you need to touch grass and focus on a different hobby for a while.
I never have those. I only have dreams where my attacker is completely unfazed by my shots or im forced to fight with a dull blade or flimsy sword. maybe i wanna frick my mom and kill my dad idk.
Gonna derail a little bit. But why do those old Euro revolvers have such heavy triggers?
Was is just the shooting culture back then, and they actually preferred heavy triggers.
Or they didn't have the tech and manufacturing skill we have today.
revolvers were supposed to be held in the left hand, they were a backup weapon to the main weapon, which was the sword or saber.
this was a holdover from the olden days.
precise shooting was not really the purpose of the revolver, it would be used point blank to gun down an opponent that you weren't confident you could swordfight with a favourable outcome.
>revolvers were supposed to be held in the left hand
pure boomer fuddlore
>precise shooting was not really the purpose of the revolver, it would be used point blank to gun down an opponent
Black person most of them are sighted in at 25 or 50m , not point blank
Gonna derail a little bit. But why do those old Euro revolvers have such heavy triggers?
Was is just the shooting culture back then, and they actually preferred heavy triggers.
Or they didn't have the tech and manufacturing skill we have today.
>Gonna derail a little bit. But why do those old Euro revolvers have such heavy triggers? >Was is just the shooting culture back then, and they actually preferred heavy triggers.
On military revolvers, heavy leaf springs = more durable and won't wear out. Not needed for a sporting gun. That's why Webley WG's have such light triggers compared to Webley Mk Series
Also men were stronger back then in general, 7-10lb service trigger on a rifle was pretty standard
revolvers were supposed to be held in the left hand, they were a backup weapon to the main weapon, which was the sword or saber.
this was a holdover from the olden days.
precise shooting was not really the purpose of the revolver, it would be used point blank to gun down an opponent that you weren't confident you could swordfight with a favourable outcome.
same anon, in addition:
it did not have to do with manufacturing skill. europe is famous for clockwork and in fact wheellocks used clockwork-style springs and mechanisms. it was a conscious choice.
my favorite part is that a 1911 has, not including the trigger guard, THREE separate safeties, yet he still shot himself. I also love that he tries to claim he had a 7k round hardcore training session lmao.
Ah yeah, for sure. Pardon my mistake. There's just something about reaching your finger into a hole that makes me thing about "loose" instead of "large," if you catch my drift.
anon, trigger guards are typically made larger for use with gloves. not looser. that would mean that the trigger guard would be prone to falling out.
Here's some Canadian Forces issued arctic mitts, they remove the trigger guards for arctic fighting. You pretty much have to when you're looking at -50c or lower temps and there aren't any gloves with fingers that will do the job.
>Then you cut off a finger on the glove
Please don't freeze your fricking fingers. Just buy a proper glove or gun.
Think objective-oriented. What are you actually trying to achieve? I doubt freezing your finger is a part of that.
Depending on the weather that can be a good way to loose a finger.
The proceedure for cutting the fingers "off" of gloves is to just make a cut here on the glove (pic rel)
That will allow you to wear the glove normally, or just stick your bang-switch finger out the hole if the gloves are so chunky that they don't fit in the trigger guard.
T. Arcticgay
shooting gloves will have that part pre-cut, and also with a little overlap so you dont get cold.
this also solves the age old issue of which finger to use when firing
>Denmark >he thinks Denmark gets arctic conditions
t.northern swedegay here, laughs in above arctic circle
also in before greenlandgay , no you are not real people and do not count in anything, ever. also your entire island personifies false marketing.
1 year ago
Anonymous
If you think a hole in your gloves is a valid solution, you do NOT spend time outside in those conditions.
1 year ago
Anonymous
the traditional way to do it in the swedish army is to wear 3 pairs. one pair of finger gloves in wool, one larger pair of mitts in stomped wool and a pair of frickhuge white leather covering mitts. When shooting you pull off the two outer pairs (who are secured to the wrist) and shoot with the finger gloves on.
Thats how we did it from 0 degrees down to -38 back in '04 and '05
some civilian shooting gloves were also used by the officers, where you can sort of fold / peel the finger back like a foreskin.
best protection against cold is a very large snus.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>very large snus.
sus?
1 year ago
Anonymous
its not sus at all.
google is your friend but picrel
1 year ago
Anonymous
You and the Funns have a tobacco problem. Snus isn't even that good. Horrid, actually, and I have no clue why every gas station in America sells a frickton of different chewing tobacco when I've never seen anyone buy it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You and the Funns have a tobacco problem
its not a problem until we run out >Snus isn't even that good.
thems fighting words.
1 year ago
Anonymous
That literally just sounds like the Swedish rifles have a too-small trigger guard. Thank goodness you're getting some Finnish quality in the future.
1 year ago
Anonymous
lol
you'd understand if you saw the mitts, anon. trust me, you arent getting into any trigger guard with them on.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Post the mitts, please.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I'm trying to find pics of them, dont know what they are called. We called them ice bear scrotums. big ass white leather with no fingers but the thumb. impossible to do any dexterity-based task.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Post the mitts, please.
found them, they are called skiing gloves.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>they are called skiing gloves.
Stop lying, these are called Seal c**ts.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>That literally just sounds like the Swedish rifles have a too-small trigger guard. Thank goodness you're getting some Finnish quality in the future.
We literally do the exact same thing in Finland, dear pic rel.
1 year ago
Anonymous
TIL Sweden has an Army
1 year ago
Anonymous
it's smol but we used to conscript a bunch of people to fill the ranks, like when I was in it 20 years ago.
these days frick knows.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You do know that Greenland is a Danish territory, right?
>Like Denmark or something?
Gällivare.
If you're facing -40c then you don't wear normal gloves like that at all, you wear thick mittens.
Alternatively you can wear thinner gloves underneath the mittens, but I wouldn't recommend it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Gällivare.
holy shit gällivarebro what are the fricking odds
repisvaara represent
1 year ago
Anonymous
Your mittens or rifle must suck.
1 year ago
Anonymous
why are you showing us that autumn weather glove, anon? we are talking about winter conditions here.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Cause Finnish lappland forces (Sodankylä) had mittens like that back when I served. I genuinely think it's just a question of Swedish rifles having a tiny trigger guard.
1 year ago
Anonymous
maybe, the AK5 does suck ass in my experience. it's heavy as frick, that part I do know. also in Boden (I19) we didn't have gloves like that , we had big ass white fingerless mittens in white leather. and underneath that (the middle layer) was unironically commercial Lovikka vantar. it was a pain in the ass to frick around with the gloves when shooting.
dont ask me why we did it, I was just explaining how we did it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Ak 5 empty 3.9 kg
Christ. And here I thought the RK 62 was heavy. But honestly, you can fire the RK 62 even with those thick ass mittens. Like pic related. Can't get any kind of decent trigger pull or anything, but you can fire it alright.
1 year ago
Anonymous
I think the new model was made lighter, we had the Ak5a back in '04, it felt like it was made of cast iron. its over 5 kg when loaded with a full mag.
at least we didn't have any fricking optics on it to make it even heavier. frick that iron pig piece of shit.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Bad news. >Ak 5C empty 4.0 kg
1 year ago
Anonymous
lol, lmao even
so its unironically around 6kgs then with a full mag and all the other shit on it
at that point just give every person a machinegun
1 year ago
Anonymous
Doesn't the Swedish Armed Forces treat the FN Mag as an LMG anyway?
1 year ago
Anonymous
it is carried by some unlucky frickers, yes.
1 year ago
Anonymous
it is carried by some unlucky frickers, yes.
Go to the gym.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Gällivare
Based. I drove past once on my way from Narvik back to Finland. Never seen that many foxes before in my life.
Show me a pair of gloves that are thick enough to use in -30 degrees Celsius, and still slim enough to use guns with.
1 year ago
Anonymous
as I've said before in this thread, the way we did it in sweden was to wear three layers on the hands. it's not necessarily the thickness of the material, it's how well you can trap body heat inside and layers are better for that
1 year ago
Anonymous
They're all fat trying to put it on anything else except their weight that is the problem. Pure lazy obese homosexuals.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Where the frick are you at that you need protection for -23 F? Just get some thin wool gloves, and deal with it like the millions of others that live in conditions similar yearly. Unless your hands are already too fat to barely get your obese sausage link into the trigger guard. Seriously, how frick fat are you homosexuals? Seems to be seen as normal here to be 50lbs over weight, and band-aid everything else to deal with it. Lose weight, you disgusting fat homosexuals. Spends some of that ammo money on a gym membership and a better diet. Fricking moronic obese larpers.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>-23 F >F
lol
1 year ago
Anonymous
Yes, the only one that counts F. Now, address the rest, you 5 ft tall 300lb gremlin.
1 year ago
Anonymous
but anon, you pulled that number out of your ass. obviously for that temp a thin pair of wool gloves is perfectly fine, or even to go without
we were talking about much lower temperatures, illiterate-chan
1 year ago
Anonymous
Show me a pair of gloves that are thick enough to use in -30 degrees Celsius, and still slim enough to use guns with.
>Show me a pair of gloves that are thick enough to use in -30 degrees Celsius
>but anon, you pulled that number out of your ass.
I did? Pretty sure the anon I replied directly to, did that be stipulating that the glove need to protect in -30 C weather, no? Can you not read? You must be having cognitive problems due to the gut bacterium from being obese fricking up your system. Seek weight loss, and your mental health will improve, my moronic fren.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Not him but -30 Celsius is -22 Fahrenheit. He rounded to -23. -40 is the crossover where they are equal and at -41 the Fahrenheit number will start to be lower
1 year ago
Anonymous
[...] >Show me a pair of gloves that are thick enough to use in -30 degrees Celsius
>but anon, you pulled that number out of your ass.
I did? Pretty sure the anon I replied directly to, did that be stipulating that the glove need to protect in -30 C weather, no? Can you not read? You must be having cognitive problems due to the gut bacterium from being obese fricking up your system. Seek weight loss, and your mental health will improve, my moronic fren.
I admit im a moron, google fooled me on the conversion
but in regards to -30C, if you work indoors and only spend a few minutes at a time outdoors then yes, you can get away with just thin gloves or even just grin and bear it.
or even if you just go for a promenade around town.
but if you are in field conditions, as in a military context, or inna woods, you absolutely need somethign more than thin woolen gloves.
have you experienced temperatures of -30 and below personally?
About 25 years ago, I experienced a day of -48.
It's pretty humbling.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>have you experienced temperatures of -30 and below personally?
Yes. Look up the winter weather that the Great Lakes area gets. That's a yearly thing, just about.
1 year ago
Anonymous
all right. it's yearly where I live as well. I guess our experiences just vary.
now, as I said, if you are just walking around in normal 'civilian' life so to speak, you can get by with thin wool gloves
its when you get to field conditions, such as in the military or when hiking you need better.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Id like to volunteer that in indiana a few years back we had a winter that was pretty extreme. I dont recall how cold it was but i remember the weatherlady with the huge breasts saying it was colder here than antarctica one night. -20to30 would be my best guess. Was bad and extremely uncommon for the midwest.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>if you work indoors and only spend a few minutes at a time outdoors then yes, you can get away with just thin gloves or even just grin and bear it.
Yes I agree and the other guy is full of shit. At those temps your hands will freeze within minutes if you don’t have proper gloves or mittens. I also have firsthand experience with similar temps and it’s brutal. It was -47 Fahrenheit with wind chill on December 22nd. You’d have frostbite within 10 minutes using only “thin wool” gloves
1 year ago
Anonymous
Post body. >Just get some thin wool gloves, and deal with it like the millions of others that live in conditions similar yearly
You don’t live anywhere that is cold
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Post body.
Pay me, homosexual. You want to pound your pud to my image? You have to pay for that. >You don’t live anywhere that is cold
Black person I live on the Great Lakes, I get more than enough negative temps, just like millions of others.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>live on the Great Lakes, I get more than enough negative temps, just like millions of others.
And they all wear more than thin wool gloves in the winter if outside for more than the walk from a vehicle to a house. >t also from the region
You are fat and don’t go outside. It’s hilarious actually.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Where the frick are you at that you need protection for -23 F?
Northern Europe. >Just get some thin wool gloves, and deal with it like the millions of others that live in conditions similar yearly. Unless your hands are already too fat to barely get your obese sausage link into the trigger guard. Seriously, how frick fat are you homosexuals? Seems to be seen as normal here to be 50lbs over weight, and band-aid everything else to deal with it. Lose weight, you disgusting fat homosexuals. Spends some of that ammo money on a gym membership and a better diet. Fricking moronic obese larpers.
What the frick are you sperging out about you fricking moron? My point was that gloves consisting of single layer that are thick enough for such low temperatures, and still thin enough to fit inside the trigger guard simply don't exist.
Thin woolen gloves + thick woolen mittens + leather mittens is the only thing that works.
Learn to read the fricking convo before sperging out next time.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Northern Europe.
You can't even carry a gun. The frick are you caring what type of glove fits into your imaginary trigger guard.
1 year ago
Anonymous
lol, northern europe is one of the few places on earth that actually approaches the amount of guns per capita as in the US
1 year ago
Anonymous
Black person, you get to take your rifle home with one mag. That's not owning a gun, that being lent one.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>Black person, you get to take your rifle home with one mag.
no, that's literally false. you can buy as many mags as you please where I live.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>you can buy as many mags as you please where I live.
Now by the ammo to fill them, and then actually be able to leave your cuckshed with it. It's a literal wall decoration unless your overlords give you permission to use it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
You are the biggest nogunz on this board right now.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Seethe Eurocuck. Now, go shine your rifle in case Russia invades and your overlords actually allow you to load it and take it out of your cuckshed.
1 year ago
Anonymous
my guns are wall decorations? I guess somebody didn't tell that to the birds that die when I shoot them.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Let me see some of those birds and your guns.
1 year ago
Anonymous
pay me, homosexual.
1 year ago
Anonymous
No, I don't want to pound it to birds like you do to my aesthetics.
1 year ago
Anonymous
you are talking to more than one person, idiot.
frick you you moronic sperg. im signing off.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Post guns. Post dead birds.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>amount of guns per capita as in the US
Dude we have at least 1.5x more guns than people. Some European countries have decent gun ownership but nothing approaches guns per capita in the US
1 year ago
Anonymous
im ESL so I worded it badly. What I meant was that specifically northern europe has LOTS more guns than the european average. There's about 2 million registered weapons in Sweden, that's extremely high compared to the rest of europe seeing how we only have 10 million inhabitants.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Oh gotcha. Yeah I know Scandinavia has a good gun culture, at least with rifles, compared to the rest of Europe. But in terms of raw numbers it doesn’t compare to the US. We also have far more morons with guns, but you have to take the good with the bad.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>You can't even carry a gun. The frick are you caring what type of glove fits into your imaginary trigger guard.
I probably own more guns than you do. You should probably go jerk off to some BBW porn again to calm down.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>I probably own more guns than you do.
Proof?
>live on the Great Lakes, I get more than enough negative temps, just like millions of others.
And they all wear more than thin wool gloves in the winter if outside for more than the walk from a vehicle to a house. >t also from the region
You are fat and don’t go outside. It’s hilarious actually.
>You are fat and don’t go outside.
Pay me for that pic you want, and I'll prove I'm not.
1 year ago
Anonymous
>still doesn’t even deny he’s fat >doesn’t deny he goes doesn’t go outside
Post a pic of you in cold weather. I understand the irony of posting something where it’s obviously not that cold because no gloves, but it’s snow and outside and I don’t take many pictures. The point is I am outside when it’s cold and snowy.
What do you wear for your torso? I mean you aren’t a pussy and wear a coat right? A heavy sweatshirt is fine.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Damn, you're ugly and brown.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Alright, I lied. Your doggo is extremely handsome, and I feel bad for calling him ugly. His owner is still a homosexual, though.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Checked. What you got anders? Genuinely curious.
I got another Baikal for my wife, but it is "her gun" so I didn't include it.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Nice little family. The wood is very tasteful.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Checked. What you got anders? Genuinely curious.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Also bbw porn is choice. Dont tell me youve never gone home drunk with a fat chick. They tend to let their hair down as they dont get a lot of action but when they do, brother, they do it all.
1 year ago
Anonymous
Most sweaty, sticky, satisfied and ashamed ive ever been in my life. I encourage every man to try it at least once.
If youre white, anyway. If youre black you already do it all the time.
>finger gets frostbite >can’t use that finger to shoot anyway
Great job at creating an even bigger problem. You wear liners and take off the bigger glove, have trigger finger specific gloves, or the novel concept of an enlarged trigger guard.
You have never spent any extended time in a sub freezing environment if you’re advocating for not wearing gloves.
>7000 rounds in before I decided to switch to my pistol
that's so unbelievably high, it makes me think this guy shot himself in his living room and tried to save face.
So high speed it's like games where you do damage to yourself to deal extra damage for a short time period, in this case the extra bullet went into himself.
Get with the times, old man. SKSs now can reach for 600+ a stick, Abrams is not green just as God intended, and PSA makes very decent quality guns. In fact, PSA is an American treasure that must be protected.
A PSA being able to shoot 7k rounds over its life is very likely. They are honestly solid guns. Any AR being able to shoot 7k rounds in an afternoon isn’t happening. That’s a lot of rounds for even a belt fed
Given a bit of time to cool, it could totally do that. I have shot 500 rounds in an hour multiple times, so if our boy started in the morning and shot all day it's totally possible. Hopefully he had someone else load mags.
>why the FRICK would you ever remove the trigger guard?
Cause dipshit Fud, theres a fricking trigger guard for a reason. I guess frick face found out first hand.
I was driving my car so well on saturday! Then I came to a bridge and heard a loud thud and big splash and I had to kick my window out and swim out of my car.
Don’t ever drive off a bridge, people!
Yep, didn't have crimping pliers to attach the cap to the fuse, so he just used his teeth. 99% of the time it's fine, but that 1% things don't go as well...
I still remember old stories about cops shooting themselves when they moved to glocks because they were so reliant on manual safeties on other automatics and holstered with their finger still in the trigger
Maybe in some cases, but before Glocks I'd wager most cops were using revolvers, which rarely had safeties themselves and only relatively heavier trigger pulls.
If you're dumb enough to pull your trigger while holstering, you're too stupid to remember to put the safety on. Believe in your false sense of security all you want, it won't help you. You're too fricking dumb to own guns safely.
>I was about 7k rounds in >grind his trigger guard off
so like, why do poorgays lie about this kind of shit. It's like people who think they shoot at 500 yards but they've never shot more than 100 in their life. This dumbfrick has never fired 7k rounds.
thank god he left the hammer guard
fetal alcohol syndrome
Stupidity really is the greatest enemy.
This was a training round, right?
This was a training round...right?
IT WAS A TRAINING ROUND, RIGHT?
training rounds don't have pins
The British training grenades do, don't know about other kinds never used them
training grenades do exist
this isn't one though
Yes they do. How the frick do you train with a training grenade without a pin? This isn't Russia circa 1942 where we train with potatoes, this is the current year where you have safety pins, you have handles, and you have little pops that come from the training grenade after an appropriate amount of time.
Comrade need I remind you that we have a limited supply of potatoes and that rocks are free. Do not waste our resources.
>rocks are free
what is this robber baron capitalist nonsense? rock are PROPERTY OF THE STATE, comrade, and if you are in sufficient need of a rock - or pebble - then one shall be issued to you for the duration of that particular need (provided you duly fill out the rock - or pebble - series of requisition forms).
NOW ENJOY SIBERIA, YOU ROCK-HOARDING KULAK!
Of course they do. There's frick-all point in having a training grenade that doesn't simulate the actual pin pull. The pin and the handle are half the fricking thing the average soldier has to remember.
If your country's military doesn't do this, then you should be worried.
They absolutely do. A training grenade, at least in the American military, is basically a real grenade with the main explosive removed. It's the same fuse and clips and spoon and everything as the real deal.
do they look like they're training?
why not run behind the car, geez
explosions near cars mean that the car will explode too
nice try buddy, I played GTA
>grenade blows up on ground level next to car
>car has a nice bit of ground clearance beneath it
>grenade splinters bounce off under carriage and ground underneath car
>shreds your angles
Why hiding behind cars in urban scenarios can be a problem too as bullets and pellets are liable to do the same. Might not be as bad when there's dirt and sand underneath, but distance might be a better friend
t. my ass
then keep running but with the wheels between grenade and you for both cover and distance
just jump as soon as it explodes, easy
this also solves plane crashes and being on board of a ship that hits a mine.
But ooga booga, smash the locking pin
I just fricking feel bad for this shit. For the guy involved, his NCO, his teammates.
Accidents suck.
I still can't get over the fact that he discarded a rock to bang metal with a .50 cal round, primer first
I could pick out 3 from my own squad who could be dumb enough to do that.
It's something of a miracle how Western militaries manage to function.
It's an even greater miracle how the militaries of the rest of the world are somehow even worse.
That old adage of how victory in war is a question of who makes the least mistakes is starting to seem like a nobler truth with each passing day.
>that webm
positively devilish
that's got to be one of the more annoying ways to die. I could think of more painful and overall worse, but that has to be such a fricking bummer in the split second between realizing what you just did and the grenade going off.
omg did he died
Nice troll if really a bunker feature. Who made this bunker?
Germany, they were built for the Atlantic wall iirc.
>It's something of a miracle how Western militaries manage to function
I was 6 months in Kosovo for some office work but technically I was serving in the army and I had to deal with people from the greek, italian, norwegian, dutch, british, french, american,... army and the average IQ was probably around 45, officers included.
hello Kosovo veteran. One of my platoon sgts was doing a patrol in a village when a T34/85 popped out to them. Of course it did not penetrate the Abrams. Sgt shot a SABOT through it which did nothing to the crew because it's armor was so thin. The armor was so thin the SABOT did nothing to it. Shot a HEAT and the turret popped. It was confirmed by record, and because tanking is a small world a few NCOs in our battalion confirmed the store. Crazy shit. My Sgt also killed a shit ton of people in Iraq like it was nothing, but that's another story.
>My Sgt also killed a shit ton of people in Iraq like it was nothing, but that's another story.
that i was there for btw
I know it's PrepHole shit, but people do sometimes game on overpenetration in World of Warships, where they present broadsides against BBs in their skinskinned cruisers so they shoot right through them without doing much damage. It works right up until the BB switches from AP to HE and split your butthole apart, or just hit something important anyway, but it's a fun little trick. American Tier 4-5 cruisers are great at it.
Also, how much action did Burger tanks see in Yugoslavia?
are you my agent? Did they really assign someone to me? A fat fricking moron that only gets off to BJ hypno and Traps?
I just don't understand you guys....
You know I'm too fat to be of any danger
No, I'm some Dane on a shitty internship that's basically daycare for adults trying to pass time in between brewing beer and trying to find an actual internship in an actual company.
oh ok, you talk of world of warships scared me
good luck on your internship though, ignore the BJ hypno and trap stuff though
Thanks.
Doubt, you'd still have significant spalling inside.
I don't doubt that everyone thought this, though, such is the nature of joelore.
>the average IQ was probably around 45, officers included
Lets be real here, the officers aren't helping keep the average up.
I am personally convinced officers have a permanent 50% debuff to IQ, spatial awareness and navigation skills.
>accident
That was wilful stupidity.
99% of accidents are. It's why I hold such a burning hatred and loathing against them. All it would take is a little more sense or intelligence or care to avoid most accidents but no. The people involved didn't have what it took, and so some loved family member has to die a brutal, bloody and violent death, and his or her family has to grieve through the experience.
Coming back to that .50 being used as a hammer, that's a happy ending, altogether. All the guy probably lost was his hand, and not his life.
>Accident
moron pls.
> a "accident"
(You) best be trolling.
do americans really?
Also what a shit way to lose an hand
I remember when that happened.
I think I was in Baghdad at the time
Still not as moronic as the US marine who managed to amputate both his hands in an attempt to trim hedges with a lawnmower.
u wot
>trim hedges
>with a lawnmower
I may be a stupid, lazy motherfricker, but I will always appreciate the fact that there are people dumber and lazier than I am.
When I was an MSG a watchstander in Poland put a bullet through a monitor, computer, and lodged it into the window practicing his draw at like 2 in the morning on post.
it simply had to be a marine
I cannot conceive of any other branch being capable of such shenanigans.
I remember hearing a radio commercial that said something like this. It was some kind of OSHA safety thing and used some moron who got both arms chopped off at a wood mill as the tard example.
...how? Someone please illustrate this with mspaint/tegaki
It was a two-man job, one of them managed to lose his grip and get both his hands into the spinning blade.
in terms of gore the worst is definitely the guy who blew his face off biting a blasting cap.
I went to Fort Benning for my basic training and I saw this shit plastered all over the barracks. This shit was right in front of the urinal to distract me while I pissed, too.
beautiful hand gore :3
True open hand style
I'm sure starting some of the disassembly pins of some weapons with the tip of a FMJ round was official.
I don't mean using one as a drift and hammering it with a rock, but it's a handy pointy thing all will have handy
You can remove the trigger group and piston tube of the SKS with a 7.62x39 round. The indentations are meant for that. Do not use rogg tho.
Can a .50 in your hand really cause that much damage? I know they are huge but generally if something explodes outside of the chamber (or a mostly sealed container) it doesn’t generate much pressure. I’m surprised it’s so mangled
He was beer can gripping it, hence containing the pressure (with his fingies)
So it appears the answer is yes and that I’m underestimating how much fingers can contain the pressure. Good to know
It's an explosion in the palm of your hand, and .50 cal is a BIG explosion compared to other rounds.
If it had detonated sitting on his open palm it probably wouldn't have done much. But the guy was gripping it in a "hammer fist" sort of hold with his fingers wrapped around it so that's a very different scenario.
>I’m surprised it’s so mangled
Lets do a visual thought experiment. Lets take this .50 bmg cartridge. Lets pop the bullet part off, then pour all the gunpowder in the cartridge into your palm, and examine it. After all that, lets drop a lit match into that mound of explosive powder inside your palm.
Should we be surprised that our hand is now horrifically mangled?
>After all that, lets drop a lit match into that mound of explosive powder inside your palm.
>Should we be surprised that our hand is now horrifically mangled?
lol
nogunz confirmed
Setting off gunpowder in the open doesn’t cause an explosion. It has to be contained to cause an explosion.
NTA, your hand would burn, but it wouldn’t be mangled like the other guy’s hand. The brass allows the pressure to build up high enough before rupturing to mangle a hand.
Fricking noguns hoholshill.
russians are less than human
You have actually have never played with gunpowder or fireworks.
You'd get a burn. Maybe a third degree burn, but a burn. No other mangling.
Google the difference between low order and high order explosives.
see https://youtu.be/vJ9jOGde4ws?t=140
Normally a cartridge is surrounded by the chamber, and the explosion accelerates the bullet through the barrel.
In this case, the energy went into exploding the shell itself.
The round in question was an Mk211 HEI round. Crushing the incendiary filled nose ignited the Comp-A4 explosive charge.
read the bulletin, it says the primer activated. no mention of it being mk211
They‘re basically a small hand grenade in that way, the dude could have easily died too.
.50 BMG has an extremely thick case and military ammo has some incredibly heavy crimps on the bullet. It's enough to let the pressure build a lot more than, say, a 5.56 round before case failure.
I'm surprised that they included the gore in. Then again, it probably won't have a lasting effect if it was blurred out.
They just learnt that some of their soldiers are moronic enough to use live rounds as hammers, so it make sense they went as blunt as possible
But they meant the flat end of the round, since that's where the primer is, right? Shouldn't it be relatively safe to hit with the bullet end? Or would that cause bullet setback and increase pressure into the casing and somehow set off the primer?
The primer can be set off without being impacted directly.
Proof:
?t=245
100% VA Disability speedrun
Reminds me. Denmark suffered 50 deaths during the GWOT and 3 of those were from three Danes and two Germans trying to open and disarm an old Russian artillery shell with a hammer and screwdriver.
>trying to open and disarm an old Russian artillery shell with a hammer and screwdriver
Wanst it an old Russian AA missile? And it was super lucky there werent even more people killed, a whole bunch of other people were standing around watching them trying to dismantle the rocket.
Wtf he couldn't just find a rock?
Is this what Chechens do with their spare time (all of their time)? Stage videos?
No, they have whole harems of goats to attend to. Very time consuming.
I love how moronic they are
They're hohols, what do you expect?
Not sure if thats the case, theres no ukrainian camo to be seen
Less weight to carry. Plus, who needs any sort of safety device? I get all my 1911s with a 1.5 lb trigger pull, remove the trigger guard, and permanently lock down the grip safety. I carry wienered and locked and have NEVER had a problem. This guy just wasn't very good at trigger discipline.
>locked
Really should be an age requirement to own a 1911. Only safety I need is my booger hooker
>BANG
unironically this is how it was carried back in the day, and many nations did away with the grip safety
old school SAO manual of arms has you keep the safety on 24/7 and only flip it off after readying the pistol
when you lower the gun in any way the safety comes on again
Holy shit I've probably never seen the original before. Always the Ripplebreasts shoop.
Shooting with winter gloves is the only valid reason and usually the trigger guard can be put back to normal
>7k rounds in
>PSA AR
Might be a troll post, friendo.
This is how you turn appendix carry into 'a endix' carry
When the training gets too hardcore
Trigger guards are a crutch. If you get hurt, you only have yourself to blame.
>his gun comes with a trigger guard
get on my level plebs
Did you get nervous while shooting or something? What's with the spread?
He paid for the whole target, he's gonna use the whole target.
you joke, but over here in sweden the center part of the paper target (yes we have a government-approved standard bullseye target, deal with it) comes off so you can just exchange the bit that gets shot more often. dont be wasteful anons.
I won't talk shit, I got sub-MOA groups with cheap swiss ammo meanwhile other expensive ammo like hornady black got like 1.5 MOA in my rifle or some shit. You guys are based, keep doing what you're doing.
>sweden
>swiss
>:-/
Boy I'm moronic.
He can't aim where he shot before, there's no target left at that spot
Bodeos have atrocious triggers that are staple gun like. Many double action Euro revolvers from the 1870s to 1890s have atrocious triggers in general do I don't blame him for not shooting a super tight group. At least he's actually shooting the thing.
My range has a minimum distance of 25m
Post your 25m groups with a 12lb sa trigger /20lb da trigger gun
>12lb sa trigger /20lb da trigger gun
based revolver made to be fired only by titans and gods
everyone else brutally filtered
>he doesn't own a pair of bodeos to practice trigger strengthening on
That’s a fantastic picture
frickign wonderful
Why is it always "never skip leg day" but never "never skip finger day"?
*never skip keg day
FIFY. None of these obese ogres workout.
How would you say the officers model compares to the other bodeo?
That actually has me wondering. Naturally, train and practice with what you plan on using for best results but would building finger strength using a heavy trigger be an advantage? Say you carry a 92fs but practice with idk a model 10 or god help you a 20lb trigger bodeo, would you have any kind of edge over someone who maybe practices quick shooting with a lighter trigger building better fast twitch dexterity?
Buncha excuses, brother. Why are you comparing yourself to me, an anonymous stranger. You should be aiming for the stars, not for me.
Also, you've got those nice three hits on the bullseye, 6 in the 8-ring just about, but then a few go way off mark. What's your excuse? If you managed to land those good hits, why couldn't you hit the rest?
I unironically have nightmares about impossibly heavy trigger springs all the time. Like I need to shoot somebody and I'm just not strong enough to pull the trigger on my own gun and I just die like an butthole.
This is very common among police officers and soldiers, that you are having this as a civilian shows you need to touch grass and focus on a different hobby for a while.
shut up reddit Black person
I never have those. I only have dreams where my attacker is completely unfazed by my shots or im forced to fight with a dull blade or flimsy sword. maybe i wanna frick my mom and kill my dad idk.
It's even worse when you're dreaming that you're able to fire the gun, you know it hits the subject, but it does absolutely frick all to them.
Gonna derail a little bit. But why do those old Euro revolvers have such heavy triggers?
Was is just the shooting culture back then, and they actually preferred heavy triggers.
Or they didn't have the tech and manufacturing skill we have today.
revolvers were supposed to be held in the left hand, they were a backup weapon to the main weapon, which was the sword or saber.
this was a holdover from the olden days.
precise shooting was not really the purpose of the revolver, it would be used point blank to gun down an opponent that you weren't confident you could swordfight with a favourable outcome.
>revolvers were supposed to be held in the left hand
pure boomer fuddlore
>precise shooting was not really the purpose of the revolver, it would be used point blank to gun down an opponent
Black person most of them are sighted in at 25 or 50m , not point blank
>Gonna derail a little bit. But why do those old Euro revolvers have such heavy triggers?
>Was is just the shooting culture back then, and they actually preferred heavy triggers.
On military revolvers, heavy leaf springs = more durable and won't wear out. Not needed for a sporting gun. That's why Webley WG's have such light triggers compared to Webley Mk Series
Also men were stronger back then in general, 7-10lb service trigger on a rifle was pretty standard
same anon, in addition:
it did not have to do with manufacturing skill. europe is famous for clockwork and in fact wheellocks used clockwork-style springs and mechanisms. it was a conscious choice.
It looks cool
my favorite part is that a 1911 has, not including the trigger guard, THREE separate safeties, yet he still shot himself. I also love that he tries to claim he had a 7k round hardcore training session lmao.
Thick gloves sometimes can't fit inside a trigger guard.
Your gun or gloves suck then. Imagine living in arctic conditions without a gun with a loose trigger guard.
anon, trigger guards are typically made larger for use with gloves. not looser. that would mean that the trigger guard would be prone to falling out.
Ah yeah, for sure. Pardon my mistake. There's just something about reaching your finger into a hole that makes me thing about "loose" instead of "large," if you catch my drift.
that was a 8.5/10 save, I will now pardon your mistake.
>arctic
Here's some Canadian Forces issued arctic mitts, they remove the trigger guards for arctic fighting. You pretty much have to when you're looking at -50c or lower temps and there aren't any gloves with fingers that will do the job.
Then you cut off a finger on the glove, you don't hack off the trigger guard....
>Then you cut off a finger on the glove
Please don't freeze your fricking fingers. Just buy a proper glove or gun.
Think objective-oriented. What are you actually trying to achieve? I doubt freezing your finger is a part of that.
The proceedure for cutting the fingers "off" of gloves is to just make a cut here on the glove (pic rel)
That will allow you to wear the glove normally, or just stick your bang-switch finger out the hole if the gloves are so chunky that they don't fit in the trigger guard.
T. Arcticgay
shooting gloves will have that part pre-cut, and also with a little overlap so you dont get cold.
this also solves the age old issue of which finger to use when firing
>T. Arcticgay
Like Denmark or something? -40 weather won't allow for that.
>Denmark
>he thinks Denmark gets arctic conditions
t.northern swedegay here, laughs in above arctic circle
also in before greenlandgay , no you are not real people and do not count in anything, ever. also your entire island personifies false marketing.
If you think a hole in your gloves is a valid solution, you do NOT spend time outside in those conditions.
the traditional way to do it in the swedish army is to wear 3 pairs. one pair of finger gloves in wool, one larger pair of mitts in stomped wool and a pair of frickhuge white leather covering mitts. When shooting you pull off the two outer pairs (who are secured to the wrist) and shoot with the finger gloves on.
Thats how we did it from 0 degrees down to -38 back in '04 and '05
some civilian shooting gloves were also used by the officers, where you can sort of fold / peel the finger back like a foreskin.
best protection against cold is a very large snus.
>very large snus.
sus?
its not sus at all.
google is your friend but picrel
You and the Funns have a tobacco problem. Snus isn't even that good. Horrid, actually, and I have no clue why every gas station in America sells a frickton of different chewing tobacco when I've never seen anyone buy it.
>You and the Funns have a tobacco problem
its not a problem until we run out
>Snus isn't even that good.
thems fighting words.
That literally just sounds like the Swedish rifles have a too-small trigger guard. Thank goodness you're getting some Finnish quality in the future.
lol
you'd understand if you saw the mitts, anon. trust me, you arent getting into any trigger guard with them on.
Post the mitts, please.
I'm trying to find pics of them, dont know what they are called. We called them ice bear scrotums. big ass white leather with no fingers but the thumb. impossible to do any dexterity-based task.
found them, they are called skiing gloves.
>they are called skiing gloves.
Stop lying, these are called Seal c**ts.
>That literally just sounds like the Swedish rifles have a too-small trigger guard. Thank goodness you're getting some Finnish quality in the future.
We literally do the exact same thing in Finland, dear pic rel.
TIL Sweden has an Army
it's smol but we used to conscript a bunch of people to fill the ranks, like when I was in it 20 years ago.
these days frick knows.
You do know that Greenland is a Danish territory, right?
>Like Denmark or something?
Gällivare.
If you're facing -40c then you don't wear normal gloves like that at all, you wear thick mittens.
Alternatively you can wear thinner gloves underneath the mittens, but I wouldn't recommend it.
>Gällivare.
holy shit gällivarebro what are the fricking odds
repisvaara represent
Your mittens or rifle must suck.
why are you showing us that autumn weather glove, anon? we are talking about winter conditions here.
Cause Finnish lappland forces (Sodankylä) had mittens like that back when I served. I genuinely think it's just a question of Swedish rifles having a tiny trigger guard.
maybe, the AK5 does suck ass in my experience. it's heavy as frick, that part I do know. also in Boden (I19) we didn't have gloves like that , we had big ass white fingerless mittens in white leather. and underneath that (the middle layer) was unironically commercial Lovikka vantar. it was a pain in the ass to frick around with the gloves when shooting.
dont ask me why we did it, I was just explaining how we did it.
>Ak 5 empty 3.9 kg
Christ. And here I thought the RK 62 was heavy. But honestly, you can fire the RK 62 even with those thick ass mittens. Like pic related. Can't get any kind of decent trigger pull or anything, but you can fire it alright.
I think the new model was made lighter, we had the Ak5a back in '04, it felt like it was made of cast iron. its over 5 kg when loaded with a full mag.
at least we didn't have any fricking optics on it to make it even heavier. frick that iron pig piece of shit.
Bad news.
>Ak 5C empty 4.0 kg
lol, lmao even
so its unironically around 6kgs then with a full mag and all the other shit on it
at that point just give every person a machinegun
Doesn't the Swedish Armed Forces treat the FN Mag as an LMG anyway?
it is carried by some unlucky frickers, yes.
Go to the gym.
>Gällivare
Based. I drove past once on my way from Narvik back to Finland. Never seen that many foxes before in my life.
What a cheeky little edit
Or just lose weight, and not have obese sausage fingers.
Show me a pair of gloves that are thick enough to use in -30 degrees Celsius, and still slim enough to use guns with.
as I've said before in this thread, the way we did it in sweden was to wear three layers on the hands. it's not necessarily the thickness of the material, it's how well you can trap body heat inside and layers are better for that
They're all fat trying to put it on anything else except their weight that is the problem. Pure lazy obese homosexuals.
Where the frick are you at that you need protection for -23 F? Just get some thin wool gloves, and deal with it like the millions of others that live in conditions similar yearly. Unless your hands are already too fat to barely get your obese sausage link into the trigger guard. Seriously, how frick fat are you homosexuals? Seems to be seen as normal here to be 50lbs over weight, and band-aid everything else to deal with it. Lose weight, you disgusting fat homosexuals. Spends some of that ammo money on a gym membership and a better diet. Fricking moronic obese larpers.
>-23 F
>F
lol
Yes, the only one that counts F. Now, address the rest, you 5 ft tall 300lb gremlin.
but anon, you pulled that number out of your ass. obviously for that temp a thin pair of wool gloves is perfectly fine, or even to go without
we were talking about much lower temperatures, illiterate-chan
>Show me a pair of gloves that are thick enough to use in -30 degrees Celsius
>but anon, you pulled that number out of your ass.
I did? Pretty sure the anon I replied directly to, did that be stipulating that the glove need to protect in -30 C weather, no? Can you not read? You must be having cognitive problems due to the gut bacterium from being obese fricking up your system. Seek weight loss, and your mental health will improve, my moronic fren.
Not him but -30 Celsius is -22 Fahrenheit. He rounded to -23. -40 is the crossover where they are equal and at -41 the Fahrenheit number will start to be lower
I admit im a moron, google fooled me on the conversion
but in regards to -30C, if you work indoors and only spend a few minutes at a time outdoors then yes, you can get away with just thin gloves or even just grin and bear it.
or even if you just go for a promenade around town.
but if you are in field conditions, as in a military context, or inna woods, you absolutely need somethign more than thin woolen gloves.
have you experienced temperatures of -30 and below personally?
About 25 years ago, I experienced a day of -48.
It's pretty humbling.
>have you experienced temperatures of -30 and below personally?
Yes. Look up the winter weather that the Great Lakes area gets. That's a yearly thing, just about.
all right. it's yearly where I live as well. I guess our experiences just vary.
now, as I said, if you are just walking around in normal 'civilian' life so to speak, you can get by with thin wool gloves
its when you get to field conditions, such as in the military or when hiking you need better.
Id like to volunteer that in indiana a few years back we had a winter that was pretty extreme. I dont recall how cold it was but i remember the weatherlady with the huge breasts saying it was colder here than antarctica one night. -20to30 would be my best guess. Was bad and extremely uncommon for the midwest.
>if you work indoors and only spend a few minutes at a time outdoors then yes, you can get away with just thin gloves or even just grin and bear it.
Yes I agree and the other guy is full of shit. At those temps your hands will freeze within minutes if you don’t have proper gloves or mittens. I also have firsthand experience with similar temps and it’s brutal. It was -47 Fahrenheit with wind chill on December 22nd. You’d have frostbite within 10 minutes using only “thin wool” gloves
Post body.
>Just get some thin wool gloves, and deal with it like the millions of others that live in conditions similar yearly
You don’t live anywhere that is cold
>Post body.
Pay me, homosexual. You want to pound your pud to my image? You have to pay for that.
>You don’t live anywhere that is cold
Black person I live on the Great Lakes, I get more than enough negative temps, just like millions of others.
>live on the Great Lakes, I get more than enough negative temps, just like millions of others.
And they all wear more than thin wool gloves in the winter if outside for more than the walk from a vehicle to a house.
>t also from the region
You are fat and don’t go outside. It’s hilarious actually.
>Where the frick are you at that you need protection for -23 F?
Northern Europe.
>Just get some thin wool gloves, and deal with it like the millions of others that live in conditions similar yearly. Unless your hands are already too fat to barely get your obese sausage link into the trigger guard. Seriously, how frick fat are you homosexuals? Seems to be seen as normal here to be 50lbs over weight, and band-aid everything else to deal with it. Lose weight, you disgusting fat homosexuals. Spends some of that ammo money on a gym membership and a better diet. Fricking moronic obese larpers.
What the frick are you sperging out about you fricking moron? My point was that gloves consisting of single layer that are thick enough for such low temperatures, and still thin enough to fit inside the trigger guard simply don't exist.
Thin woolen gloves + thick woolen mittens + leather mittens is the only thing that works.
Learn to read the fricking convo before sperging out next time.
>Northern Europe.
You can't even carry a gun. The frick are you caring what type of glove fits into your imaginary trigger guard.
lol, northern europe is one of the few places on earth that actually approaches the amount of guns per capita as in the US
Black person, you get to take your rifle home with one mag. That's not owning a gun, that being lent one.
>Black person, you get to take your rifle home with one mag.
no, that's literally false. you can buy as many mags as you please where I live.
>you can buy as many mags as you please where I live.
Now by the ammo to fill them, and then actually be able to leave your cuckshed with it. It's a literal wall decoration unless your overlords give you permission to use it.
You are the biggest nogunz on this board right now.
Seethe Eurocuck. Now, go shine your rifle in case Russia invades and your overlords actually allow you to load it and take it out of your cuckshed.
my guns are wall decorations? I guess somebody didn't tell that to the birds that die when I shoot them.
Let me see some of those birds and your guns.
pay me, homosexual.
No, I don't want to pound it to birds like you do to my aesthetics.
you are talking to more than one person, idiot.
frick you you moronic sperg. im signing off.
Post guns. Post dead birds.
>amount of guns per capita as in the US
Dude we have at least 1.5x more guns than people. Some European countries have decent gun ownership but nothing approaches guns per capita in the US
im ESL so I worded it badly. What I meant was that specifically northern europe has LOTS more guns than the european average. There's about 2 million registered weapons in Sweden, that's extremely high compared to the rest of europe seeing how we only have 10 million inhabitants.
Oh gotcha. Yeah I know Scandinavia has a good gun culture, at least with rifles, compared to the rest of Europe. But in terms of raw numbers it doesn’t compare to the US. We also have far more morons with guns, but you have to take the good with the bad.
>You can't even carry a gun. The frick are you caring what type of glove fits into your imaginary trigger guard.
I probably own more guns than you do. You should probably go jerk off to some BBW porn again to calm down.
>I probably own more guns than you do.
Proof?
>You are fat and don’t go outside.
Pay me for that pic you want, and I'll prove I'm not.
>still doesn’t even deny he’s fat
>doesn’t deny he goes doesn’t go outside
Post a pic of you in cold weather. I understand the irony of posting something where it’s obviously not that cold because no gloves, but it’s snow and outside and I don’t take many pictures. The point is I am outside when it’s cold and snowy.
What do you wear for your torso? I mean you aren’t a pussy and wear a coat right? A heavy sweatshirt is fine.
Damn, you're ugly and brown.
Alright, I lied. Your doggo is extremely handsome, and I feel bad for calling him ugly. His owner is still a homosexual, though.
I got another Baikal for my wife, but it is "her gun" so I didn't include it.
Nice little family. The wood is very tasteful.
Checked. What you got anders? Genuinely curious.
Also bbw porn is choice. Dont tell me youve never gone home drunk with a fat chick. They tend to let their hair down as they dont get a lot of action but when they do, brother, they do it all.
Most sweaty, sticky, satisfied and ashamed ive ever been in my life. I encourage every man to try it at least once.
If youre white, anyway. If youre black you already do it all the time.
Mosad is Saudi Arabia right?
Hole too low
Depending on the weather that can be a good way to loose a finger.
>finger gets frostbite
>can’t use that finger to shoot anyway
Great job at creating an even bigger problem. You wear liners and take off the bigger glove, have trigger finger specific gloves, or the novel concept of an enlarged trigger guard.
You have never spent any extended time in a sub freezing environment if you’re advocating for not wearing gloves.
>7000 rounds in before I decided to switch to my pistol
that's so unbelievably high, it makes me think this guy shot himself in his living room and tried to save face.
if he really shot 7 thousand rounds in what I imagine would be only a couple of hours, that barrel would be completely spent. and other parts too,
Not to mention taking over 200lbs of ammo “up to the hills”
>/k/ will unironically tell you this is normal and supposed to happen
post it
fricking do it or so help me god
High speed, low drag
So high speed it's like games where you do damage to yourself to deal extra damage for a short time period, in this case the extra bullet went into himself.
>trigger stop
That next to the shoulder part that goes up?
>fitzgay nowhere to be found
>PSA15
>7k rounds
Gee I really wonder if this is real
Get with the times, old man. SKSs now can reach for 600+ a stick, Abrams is not green just as God intended, and PSA makes very decent quality guns. In fact, PSA is an American treasure that must be protected.
>Abrams is not green
now*
A PSA being able to shoot 7k rounds over its life is very likely. They are honestly solid guns. Any AR being able to shoot 7k rounds in an afternoon isn’t happening. That’s a lot of rounds for even a belt fed
Given a bit of time to cool, it could totally do that. I have shot 500 rounds in an hour multiple times, so if our boy started in the morning and shot all day it's totally possible. Hopefully he had someone else load mags.
>why the FRICK would you ever remove the trigger guard?
Because you're the sort of pew pew clown that "trains" with 7000 rounds, more than a GI would use in two tours of Vietnam.
super thick gloves
outside Artic environments i dont get it
>why the FRICK would you ever remove the trigger guard?
Cause dipshit Fud, theres a fricking trigger guard for a reason. I guess frick face found out first hand.
That is one of the most /k/ images ever posted.
>everything was going well.
Bet it happened literally the first time he tried to holster
>why the FRICK would you ever remove the trigger guard?
Easier to use with your foot.
I was driving my car so well on saturday! Then I came to a bridge and heard a loud thud and big splash and I had to kick my window out and swim out of my car.
Don’t ever drive off a bridge, people!
Blasting cap guy
what in the frick
dont mess with blasting caps kiddos
Wtf. Did he have it in his fricking mouth?
Yep, didn't have crimping pliers to attach the cap to the fuse, so he just used his teeth. 99% of the time it's fine, but that 1% things don't go as well...
LAS PLAGAS
FRICKING KEK
This dude found out how it feels to chew 5 gum.
motorcycle fom rotten.com
Even worse, the gun who's defining features is a thumb safety. Shame it didn't go into his fricking head.
Who the frick would remove a safety switch?
There are a lot of morons out there anon...
I still remember old stories about cops shooting themselves when they moved to glocks because they were so reliant on manual safeties on other automatics and holstered with their finger still in the trigger
Any truth to that?
Maybe in some cases, but before Glocks I'd wager most cops were using revolvers, which rarely had safeties themselves and only relatively heavier trigger pulls.
the trigger guard isn't a switch.
If you're dumb enough to pull your trigger while holstering, you're too stupid to remember to put the safety on. Believe in your false sense of security all you want, it won't help you. You're too fricking dumb to own guns safely.
>I was about 7k rounds in
>grind his trigger guard off
so like, why do poorgays lie about this kind of shit. It's like people who think they shoot at 500 yards but they've never shot more than 100 in their life. This dumbfrick has never fired 7k rounds.
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T REMOVE THE TRIGGER GUARD REAL GUN OWNERS PRACTICE THE REDDIT FINGER
NDs happen. I've had a few.
POST IT YOU DIRTY bawd YOU
Another /k/omrade.
Pook was just curious at how things work and loves taking things apart, he's just like me!
>hardcore training
The moment I realized we are dealing with a moron.
>be moron
>do moron shit
a tale as old as time
Would you carry a Fitz Special, customized by John Henry Fitzgerald himself?
>hardcore training
Just say youre doing some homosexual larping shit.