Why not revive the tank destroyers?

If you are going to build a shell on top of the tank anyway, which makes the turret useless. You may as well build no turret at all.

The design will be simpler, thus cheaper, make the tank stronger and able to put a bigger gun on it.

Also no gaps that can trap incoming fire from other tanks.

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    because the cost of the turret isn't a big factor

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You could save weight or invest in more armor with a casemate set up. Also Casemates are more protected than a turret.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >AGM-114's your rolling matchbox

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because the shell can be done in a garage with a welder.
    Turning a T-72 into a casmate demands a major assembly line change

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because APHE is obsolete dumbass
    During cold war most casemate were very light airborne vehicles.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Russia is not developing new vehicles, they're just occasionally slapping shit onto progressively older vehicles

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    casemate designs are last ditch designs to save resources.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      This war is fricking bizarre. Will the next peer on peer conflict (eg US and X power) look like this? Or US vs any insurgency?

      • 4 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        No, the reason why this war looks the way it does is because both sides started with terribly under-equipped and maintained militaries, and for the most part they still are, the only difference is Russian command didn't realize it. For starters, a modern war would be dominated by who can achieve air power, it simply gives you too much advantage to be ignored.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why not just remove the gun?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      i like that all the scratches on the front indicates many past victories of the ram

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      battlebots lookin ass

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    No use case.
    Back in the 30's and 40's, tank designers had to choose between speed, armament, and armor. Speed + armament = fast tank destroyer; armor + armament = heavy tank destroyer, etc.
    But in the 1950's we had engines powerful enough to bear the weight of all three. So the main battle tank was born and medium tanks could reliably duel one another.

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because Russia isn't new-building these turtle tank abominations, they're mostly barely functional Soviet stock. Cutting the hull roof and adding a casemate sounds like effort and cost that aren't going towards Colonel Kleptovsky's yacht.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    What if russia got a few T-55, transformed it into a casemate with the 203mm cannon from the 2S7 Pion.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They're limited by 203mm barrels and shells already, why would you do this

      Maybe they'll start employing Koksan

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      what if they brought back heavy tank production and then turn that into a casemate?

    • 4 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      That sounds moronic, idiotic, a waste of resources, beyond moronic and dim-minded bullshit
      This is their next plan for sure.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because better technologies for killing tanks exist than a bigger gun. The only reason TDs ever existed was because the best solution for a dedicated anti-tank vehicle was one that could mount an upsized cannon, and it was already starting to become obsolescent as shaped charge warheads were figured out. Bradleys killed more Iraqi tanks in Desert Storm than Abrams because they were packing TOWs. IIRC Abrams were pretty low on the ladder for armored vehicle kills because aircraft were destroying so many ahead of them.

  13. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Russia designing anything with forethought
    No. And the turtle tank is just a mild steel shed above their outdated tank as a desperate spaced armor.

  14. 4 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Never gonna happen because that's beyond Black personrigging a cope bungalow on a rusted refubrished T-55 minutes away from the front line. Think about all the yachts you could buy with all the upgrade program money.

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