I love White Monster, but the sucralose is artificial and causes health issues. Is there an equivalent? Monster needs to make the shit out of Monk Fruit or something; White Monster is like drinking orange juice.
I love White Monster, but the sucralose is artificial and causes health issues. Is there an equivalent? Monster needs to make the shit out of Monk Fruit or something; White Monster is like drinking orange juice.
Vitamin D3 is rat poison.
And about 3.8 grams of it is the median lethal oral dose for a 200lb man.
A dose of about 9mg is enough to cause mineralization in soft tissues, mostly kidney and liver, but also heart of a 200lb mam.
Why does "roids bad" always sound like cope? The negatives are way overblown, it's the 0.1% that blast year round while abusing coke that die from roiding. I don't lift, I'm fairly lean already and I work a job that leaves me pretty tired at the end of the day, but I feel like if I did lift there'd be no reason not to roid.
>Why does "roids bad" always sound like cope?
Most people equate the substantial side effects of stronger anabolics with all steroids. >The negatives are way overblown >if I did lift there'd be no reason not to roid
Steroids are not worth it for many people considering them. Once you start cycling most people will eventually get to the point where they're using heavy doses and/or strong anabolics. It's difficult to not let the psychological aspect of wanting to get bigger/stronger lead you into taking more (or stronger stuff) and cycling constantly. With higher doses and stronger anabolics the side effects and health risks go up significantly. Further, if you reach the point of surpassing your natural genetic limit, it's very hard mentally to stop or reduce cycling due to shrinking down in size and strength. Therefore, many people who start taking steroids will be on it for years or even the rest of their lives, which obviously is terrible for your health longterm if you're using anything more than lower doses of test (which you probably will be). There's also the aspect of needing to do a good amount of research, such as getting knowledgable on post cycle therapy and estrogen suppression drugs so you don't frick up your endocrine system and health in general.
True didn't think of that, I guess it's the same as recreational drugs in that they're very good in small doses, so good that you'll get addicted, and once you're addicted shit the doses get bigger
>Why does "roids bad" always sound like cope?
Most people equate the substantial side effects of stronger anabolics with all steroids. >The negatives are way overblown >if I did lift there'd be no reason not to roid
Steroids are not worth it for many people considering them. Once you start cycling most people will eventually get to the point where they're using heavy doses and/or strong anabolics. It's difficult to not let the psychological aspect of wanting to get bigger/stronger lead you into taking more (or stronger stuff) and cycling constantly. With higher doses and stronger anabolics the side effects and health risks go up significantly. Further, if you reach the point of surpassing your natural genetic limit, it's very hard mentally to stop or reduce cycling due to shrinking down in size and strength. Therefore, many people who start taking steroids will be on it for years or even the rest of their lives, which obviously is terrible for your health longterm if you're using anything more than lower doses of test (which you probably will be). There's also the aspect of needing to do a good amount of research, such as getting knowledgable on post cycle therapy and estrogen suppression drugs so you don't frick up your endocrine system and health in general.
A lot of morons in this thread have no idea what they're on about.
It's an open secret in the US military that steroid use is very widespread among infantrymen. Normal drug tests administered to soldiers do not test for steroids and nobody gets in trouble for steroid use unless they're very blatant about it (ie:talking about it or openly shooting up) because then their superiors are just forced to act.
As for why the military doesn't develop PEDs, there's just no reason to. The development has already been done for them and the soldiers are using roids of their own volition and on their own dime. By turning a blind eye the military saves money both on the substances themselves and avoids future liability that would inevitably come from people suffering negative effects of steroids and then filing a class action lawsuit against the government or some shit.
Also, morons ITT that think everyone on steroids is some kind of brick shithouse monstrosity is just moronic. Increased muscular growth is not the only benefit of anabolics and you don't turn into a gigahomie unless you're using really large amounts of substances.
These are basically the only correct answers ITT so far.
You didn't ask, but I know this is what you're after so: >what kind of PEDs are useful for combat?
Testosterone Enanthate for a test base. May be substituted with a low dose of dbol
Primobolan Enanthate for a bit more aggression without messing with higher cognitive function as well as solid muscle and collagen synthesis
Nandrolone Decanoate for more muscle with less side effects compared to testosterone while providing relief on joint pain
Anavar for even more collagen synthesis/ injury prevention
GH for injury recovery and prevention
Adderall for increased focus
Nicotine same as above
Modafanil to keep you alert on long nights
Diazepam to keep you cool when nervous, especially if you're getting the shakes before contact.
EPO for better cardiovascular endurance.
You should NOT take heavy doses of any of that. Even keep the test at a high replacement dose of about 150-200mg/week. You're not trying to build crazy mass, you're trying to be strong while staying lean and athletic, you want to be able to recover from hard days faster than natural, you do NOT want to take several grams worth of gear every week and frick your life up.
You don't want to abuse Adderall either, but use it sparingly when you need to be on your A-game. If you're actually in the military, see if you can get a prescription for Adderall, because that might actually pop on a piss test, unlike the rest of the stuff I've listed
Because it creates a logistical nightmare for only a small increase in overall combat effectiveness.
What happens when your troops aren't able to access the clean needles and reliable refrigeration needed for anabolics, peptides, etc? And now that your force is dependent on these drugs, any disruption to supply is going to cripple your soldiers.
The only PED's which make sense in a military context are drugs like modafinil, ambien, etc. They don't require refrigeration and can be used as needed when the combat situation calls for it. And even these drugs have negative consequences on the combat preparedness of soldiers.
They are probably testing shit out in secret but all the special operations people from the rangers to the green berets to the seals are roided out pretty hard
If they're testing anything it's probably therapies to reduce the breakdown of cartilage, it's not that soldiers aren't strong enough from a muscular perspective, it's that their joints simply can't take the abuse.
doesn't seem that useful when most infantry are mechanized. its not like combat comes down to wrasslin that often so having super strong soldiers really doesn't matter.
A lot of morons in this thread have no idea what they're on about.
It's an open secret in the US military that steroid use is very widespread among infantrymen. Normal drug tests administered to soldiers do not test for steroids and nobody gets in trouble for steroid use unless they're very blatant about it (ie:talking about it or openly shooting up) because then their superiors are just forced to act.
As for why the military doesn't develop PEDs, there's just no reason to. The development has already been done for them and the soldiers are using roids of their own volition and on their own dime. By turning a blind eye the military saves money both on the substances themselves and avoids future liability that would inevitably come from people suffering negative effects of steroids and then filing a class action lawsuit against the government or some shit.
Also, morons ITT that think everyone on steroids is some kind of brick shithouse monstrosity is just moronic. Increased muscular growth is not the only benefit of anabolics and you don't turn into a gigahomie unless you're using really large amounts of substances.
This is exactly right. A *lot* of guys I’d deploy with would do a cycle before deployment. Usually just test and dbol. Once we got overseas, we’d all just use prohormones which probably wrecked our livers.
A lot of guys looked at it like, “Welp, I’m gonna frickin die. Might as well pack on 5-10 lbs that *might* just help me pull through.”
Oh, the prohormones were just oral tablets. I did test once before I deployed but I’d only ever run 300 mg every week. Then I’d get labs, do some post cycle therapy and cruise on low dose prohormones while overseas.
Some guys were doing some insane shit, though. Very high dose cycles, even overseas. I didn’t want to deal with bleaching pins, finding syringes or risking feeling like total shit due to my test being heavily suppressed.
What the frick is the point? roidgays are roidgays because they have nothing else to do when they're sitting in a FOB all day just to shoot some opium farmer at 2 in the morning just to rinse repeat and trick themselves into believing they're doing something. Why do you think all SOF are roided out? Try doing that shit when you're squatting in the bush for weeks to months at a time. Steroids also have a lot of negative effects just to get an increase in muscle mass that isn't really useful. If you are already at the physical point where you've accomplished most to all of your beginner gains, you are easily strong enough to do everything you need to do in combat. Cardio at that point becomes way more of an important issue than how big of a deadlift you can do.
Protein powder, white Monsters and a good night's sleep give 95% of the benefits with 0% of the flaws.
Noob here, do I need a dbol kickstart for white monsters?
Dry scoop it standing on your head and you're good.
>dbol
it'll shrink your balls instead
No, tren for white monsters.
I love White Monster, but the sucralose is artificial and causes health issues. Is there an equivalent? Monster needs to make the shit out of Monk Fruit or something; White Monster is like drinking orange juice.
>artificial
Something being 'artificial' doesn't make it bad, nor does something being 'natural' make it good.
Vitamin D3 is rat poison.
And about 3.8 grams of it is the median lethal oral dose for a 200lb man.
A dose of about 9mg is enough to cause mineralization in soft tissues, mostly kidney and liver, but also heart of a 200lb mam.
Literal fake news.
Sucralose is fine.
white monster, protein bars, and test e is the ranger diet
t. knower
We're letting the Chinese develop a few generations of weird mutants on that one first
Look at the health problems associated with PED use.
It isn't worth the downsides. Being a roidbeast is less than useful in modern warfare.
Why does "roids bad" always sound like cope? The negatives are way overblown, it's the 0.1% that blast year round while abusing coke that die from roiding. I don't lift, I'm fairly lean already and I work a job that leaves me pretty tired at the end of the day, but I feel like if I did lift there'd be no reason not to roid.
>Why does "roids bad" always sound like cope?
It's probably because you're stupid.
Won't deny that.
True didn't think of that, I guess it's the same as recreational drugs in that they're very good in small doses, so good that you'll get addicted, and once you're addicted shit the doses get bigger
>Why does "roids bad" always sound like cope?
Most people equate the substantial side effects of stronger anabolics with all steroids.
>The negatives are way overblown
>if I did lift there'd be no reason not to roid
Steroids are not worth it for many people considering them. Once you start cycling most people will eventually get to the point where they're using heavy doses and/or strong anabolics. It's difficult to not let the psychological aspect of wanting to get bigger/stronger lead you into taking more (or stronger stuff) and cycling constantly. With higher doses and stronger anabolics the side effects and health risks go up significantly. Further, if you reach the point of surpassing your natural genetic limit, it's very hard mentally to stop or reduce cycling due to shrinking down in size and strength. Therefore, many people who start taking steroids will be on it for years or even the rest of their lives, which obviously is terrible for your health longterm if you're using anything more than lower doses of test (which you probably will be). There's also the aspect of needing to do a good amount of research, such as getting knowledgable on post cycle therapy and estrogen suppression drugs so you don't frick up your endocrine system and health in general.
These are basically the only correct answers ITT so far.
You didn't ask, but I know this is what you're after so:
>what kind of PEDs are useful for combat?
Testosterone Enanthate for a test base. May be substituted with a low dose of dbol
Primobolan Enanthate for a bit more aggression without messing with higher cognitive function as well as solid muscle and collagen synthesis
Nandrolone Decanoate for more muscle with less side effects compared to testosterone while providing relief on joint pain
Anavar for even more collagen synthesis/ injury prevention
GH for injury recovery and prevention
Adderall for increased focus
Nicotine same as above
Modafanil to keep you alert on long nights
Diazepam to keep you cool when nervous, especially if you're getting the shakes before contact.
EPO for better cardiovascular endurance.
You should NOT take heavy doses of any of that. Even keep the test at a high replacement dose of about 150-200mg/week. You're not trying to build crazy mass, you're trying to be strong while staying lean and athletic, you want to be able to recover from hard days faster than natural, you do NOT want to take several grams worth of gear every week and frick your life up.
You don't want to abuse Adderall either, but use it sparingly when you need to be on your A-game. If you're actually in the military, see if you can get a prescription for Adderall, because that might actually pop on a piss test, unlike the rest of the stuff I've listed
It has them, they're mostly used by pilots because the ROI of PEDs on PBI is a POS.
Because it creates a logistical nightmare for only a small increase in overall combat effectiveness.
What happens when your troops aren't able to access the clean needles and reliable refrigeration needed for anabolics, peptides, etc? And now that your force is dependent on these drugs, any disruption to supply is going to cripple your soldiers.
The only PED's which make sense in a military context are drugs like modafinil, ambien, etc. They don't require refrigeration and can be used as needed when the combat situation calls for it. And even these drugs have negative consequences on the combat preparedness of soldiers.
They are probably testing shit out in secret but all the special operations people from the rangers to the green berets to the seals are roided out pretty hard
t. knower
We did, it was called amphetamines
If they're testing anything it's probably therapies to reduce the breakdown of cartilage, it's not that soldiers aren't strong enough from a muscular perspective, it's that their joints simply can't take the abuse.
doesn't seem that useful when most infantry are mechanized. its not like combat comes down to wrasslin that often so having super strong soldiers really doesn't matter.
>Why isn't the army developing PEDs?
Too busy figuring bout better anti-erection meds to put the MRE's.
A lot of morons in this thread have no idea what they're on about.
It's an open secret in the US military that steroid use is very widespread among infantrymen. Normal drug tests administered to soldiers do not test for steroids and nobody gets in trouble for steroid use unless they're very blatant about it (ie:talking about it or openly shooting up) because then their superiors are just forced to act.
As for why the military doesn't develop PEDs, there's just no reason to. The development has already been done for them and the soldiers are using roids of their own volition and on their own dime. By turning a blind eye the military saves money both on the substances themselves and avoids future liability that would inevitably come from people suffering negative effects of steroids and then filing a class action lawsuit against the government or some shit.
Also, morons ITT that think everyone on steroids is some kind of brick shithouse monstrosity is just moronic. Increased muscular growth is not the only benefit of anabolics and you don't turn into a gigahomie unless you're using really large amounts of substances.
This is exactly right. A *lot* of guys I’d deploy with would do a cycle before deployment. Usually just test and dbol. Once we got overseas, we’d all just use prohormones which probably wrecked our livers.
A lot of guys looked at it like, “Welp, I’m gonna frickin die. Might as well pack on 5-10 lbs that *might* just help me pull through.”
Oh, the prohormones were just oral tablets. I did test once before I deployed but I’d only ever run 300 mg every week. Then I’d get labs, do some post cycle therapy and cruise on low dose prohormones while overseas.
Some guys were doing some insane shit, though. Very high dose cycles, even overseas. I didn’t want to deal with bleaching pins, finding syringes or risking feeling like total shit due to my test being heavily suppressed.
>thinking there's anything left to develope
>thinking SOF guys don't take anabolics, HGH, and EPO
What the frick is the point? roidgays are roidgays because they have nothing else to do when they're sitting in a FOB all day just to shoot some opium farmer at 2 in the morning just to rinse repeat and trick themselves into believing they're doing something. Why do you think all SOF are roided out? Try doing that shit when you're squatting in the bush for weeks to months at a time. Steroids also have a lot of negative effects just to get an increase in muscle mass that isn't really useful. If you are already at the physical point where you've accomplished most to all of your beginner gains, you are easily strong enough to do everything you need to do in combat. Cardio at that point becomes way more of an important issue than how big of a deadlift you can do.