The country has a military budget of just a little under $8 billion dollars and has barely made any substantial progress in their military and modernization progress. They’ve only began to be able to produce body armor and small arms and not much else. Countries like Pakistan, Finland, Malaysia, etc have made tons of advancement while having a lower budget.
A major reason might probably be due to their mandatory-conscription all that money should go towards funding military projects or sending these boys off to universities to advance their STEM field.
If I had to guess probably because they spend too much on upkeep. I know that they have one of the worlds largest supplies of Tanks (Little less than 2k), and they've probably had to do significant posturing because of concerns over further conflict with China. Creating an actually modern military seems like it would've played second fiddle for a long ass time, and escalating geopolitical tensions + vietnam's continued GDP growth have given room to make actual upgrades.
Also Vietnam is pretty corrupt, which leads to the usual.
Yeah maintenance was likely one of the things I believe is holding the Vietnamese military back in advancements. They have to take care of tons of expensive equipment such as subs, corvettes/frigates for a county with such a tiny GDP. I think they should probably off load most of their WW2-Cold War era equipment start developing or purchasing modern arms.
Yeah the conscripts of Vietnam are a total joke in today’s world. Most conscripts don’t shoot more than a couple bullets to one magazine for their entire service. It would be better to abolish this whole conscription thing and use that money to fund more essential projects
Says they have 500k men in their military
Might be a big part of it
8 billion dollars is not alot. Ukraine had like a 2 billion dollar defense budget before the war and they are reliant on western aid to modernize their forces. They had interesting concepts wjen it comes to modernizing, but money was always an issue to bring fruit of them.
because the ukraine is corrupt and wastage, this is just money the democrats are laundering. helping them is a mistake.
>the ukraine
I don't know how other anons feel but for me it is okay when you do not continue breathing.
We think you should go back
And how much did they spend on building nukes?
>We
You should definitely neck ys
> how much did they spend on building nukes?
Around $1 billion
Zamn
as a moderate I fully support putting /misc/schizos and other 5th columnists in death camps
Yes, i, john from vermont oblast agree with this poster. Ukrain does not deserve glorious american dollar aid. Instead we should give to friend Russia instead!
vatnik piece of shit. Death to all russian invaders. TZD
Bro I hate demonrats but we get to watch Russia get btfo for what’s essentially pocket change. This is the best use of my tax dollars in my lifetime
That’s true but there are other nations with a smaller budget that have a more developed military. For example, Pakistan has a smaller budget ($6.3 billion as of currently) and they’ve managed to research and domestically produce tons of their own equipment. I think I’ve even managed to manufacture their own fighter jet. The conditions of Pakistan are similar to that of Vietnam but Vietnam is way behind.
SIPRI says it is 10 billion for pakistan
If that’s true then that makes sense why the Pakistani military is so much more developed
Pakistan gets 3 billions form US annually, mostly in form of equipment (you have to remember it's a lot harder to embezzle an actual F-16 than some cash from training budget)
Over the past decades, they received close to 100 billion dollars so it's no surprise they have better military than a country that received military aid in form of captured equipment that was considered second rate in 60s
Oh that makes a lot of sense then. I didn’t know that Pakistan was a US ally and received funding from us
>I didn’t know that Pakistan was a US ally and received funding from us
Were you not alive during the last 20 years?
No I was born 20 years ago
> I think I’ve even managed to manufacture their own fighter jet
You what?
Yeah they did so in collaboration with China
>Ukraine had like a 2 billion dollar defense budget before the war
And if they had 8 billions like Vietnam, from 2014 to 2022 it would be war not comparable. It's insane how you can take example of something contradicting your point and still trying to fit it in
No need owing to their policy of neutrality and the Chinese still being haunted by the eternal rice farmer in their sleep to consider attacking them again.
Thank you to this dude for letting Vietnam finally buy weapons
Stupid Black person, dumb Black person troony fricking Black person
Yeah this might actually be true but there’s likely more to it. The smarter Asians left their original countries to come to Western Nations. The ones left are the less intelligent ones
How much do you bet china’s IQ score is much lower, but they just lie
China's IQ score is lower, they use the scores from three cities and call that the national score
The Russian Ukraine war needs to end soon so Vietnam can start to buy weapons again
Wat? I find the Vietnamese pretty smart but it's the lowest of all low trust countries so their real problem is probably grift
Hilariously corrupt officers/politicians/procurement
look at any photo of high ranking viet officers and they all have absurdly expensive watches on
Is corruption just the natural state of the Viet? The ARVN was hilariously, fatally corrupt while the North got their shit together long enough to reunify the country and kick the shit out of Cambodia + China but they seem to have regressed since.
just a product of low education/communism/low trust society
> Hilariously corrupt officers/politicians/procurement
Very true. The Vietnam military is trying to solve its corruption by merging entire corps to remove dead weight
Corruption from top to bottom. Did you know that vietnam people's navy has 0 VLS?
> Did you know that vietnam people's navy has 0 VLS?
I didn’t know that but that’s incredibly sad. Most of the issues Vietnam is dealing with involves the ocean so that’s pretty terrible
What makes VLS better than box launchers ?
Unless they suddenly became morons in two generations, they were quick enough on their toes to adapt to the weapons of the 60s. Let it not be forgotten the Vietnamese shot down 10,000 helicopters.
It seems like Vietnam is dealing with the same issues Ukraine has before the war. Corruption every within the military due to formerly being a communist country
>due to formerly being a communist country
anon, vietnam is still communist
>anon, vietnam is still communist
The opening of the Ho Chi Minh Communist Youth Union festival was pretty wild:
>They lost more than 99% of military engagements. We got bored and left after forcing a treaty out of them.
Historically, Vietnamese regimes began in the north and gradually conquered the south but they didn't have a strong "Vietnamese" identity even if the French tried to create one for them (until the communists won the war). This means the U.S. backing the south didn't earn any favors in the north, and the communist northerners wouldn't have liked the south whatever the ideology (Catholic capitalism in those days). The U.S. also could control the cities but not the countryside which was open for the communists to recruit manpower, and while the U.S. spent a lot of money on building up the ARVN, the different divisions wouldn't support each other or even shoot at each other.
> vietnam is still communist
Some aspects of their society is but their economy, for example, is very much capitalistic
>we wuz commie and shiet
VPA has corruption problem and i haven't seen they started purging it. Infact, since 2020, the propaganda went fricking insane on Tiktok/FB, most tankies i encountered lately were fricking genZoomer
Politically it’s communist 1 party state , I would say socially it’s being westernized by its trade Allies more reminiscent of a capitalistic society than communist now. Has to do a lot with Chinese expansion into South China Sea and the need for allies.
What do you guys think about Vietnam mainly relying on Russia for its military modernization? Should they look to other countries like SK, Japan, or former Warsaw pact member s?
Weird looking ship... I'm intrigued.
Is this some kind of micro-helicarrier?
Russia is trying to convince Vietnam to buy their warships
They're already looking at other nations for military modernization.
There is a twist however.
When you BTFO'd both the US and China, you get like a +50 intimidation buff which means that nations really are wary of starting shit with you. Means you can spend that money elsewhere.
They lost more than 99% of military engagements. We got bored and left after forcing a treaty out of them.
The kicked the USA ass
With probably less money
So they saw the spending as pointless
Let's see those kdr stats again.
>The kicked the USA ass
Never ever. They only conquered south vietnam after the us military had left.
The biggest national problem in Vietnam is massive endemic corruption and (rightfully) low trust in government and institutions. The government has incredibly strong control over communications and the press. You don't know what corruption is until you've spent some time there with locals.
The government had been too corrupt to buy from Western countries due to the love of bribery among Viet officials and western anticorruption laws. Take a look at pictures of Viet officers inspecting troops, they are all wearing real $20k+ Rolexes as that's the only politically acceptable way to show wealth for military officers.
Vietnamese people are highly productive and the government is doing everything they can to churn out engineers. They are also trying to modernize the military and buy western equipment, but it's hard to do both while remaining corrupt yourself.
>Indog's hand type this.
Vietnam Army has a lot of outdated weapons but they are slowly phasing them out with the help of local industry. Not like an Indog like you could understand. Take your bullshit back to your facebook group echo chamber with your low IQ compatriots.
Pic is an armored battalion with usually around 16-32 T-54M. They already done 100 T-54M and the next batch will be 200 more T-54M, for total of 300 T-54M. The cost to upgrade the old T-54 to T-54M is estimated at around $1-2 million per tank, lot of locals involved: new T-55 tracked treads, ERA, T-54/55 engine overcharged, Viettel FCS, LWR,... 300 T-54M is serious force multiplier compared to your overprice piece of shit Harimau tanks which only have 10 right now.
Of course, your low IQ Indog's mind can not understand since you rather bought 18 Harimaulight tanks for $135 million or $7.5 million per tank. Holy hell, that price is nearly the same as MBT. Worse, only 10 Harimau tanks have been delivered right now. It may take years to see the last 8 tanks since it involves to Indo local industry.
I love when people start battleteching, particularly not widely known in the west vehciles.
It was reasonable from Vietnam's standpoint. Western sources said they have around 1000 old T-54/55 & Type 59 tanks. Direct replacement for each of them will take a massive amount of money. They want something cheap, fast and feasible for their budget. That's where T-54M comes into the picture. 300 T-54M or 9 armored battalions at full strength with 30 T-54M per armored battalion. Let's be real, those 300 T-54M with 100mm main gun is fire support at best but still 300 fire support vehicles moving around. If you look at the Ukraine-Russia war right now, any vehicles count and how desperate on both sides when they fielding anything they got their hand on it. Just how war between near-peer countries looks like: bog down, try to get anything on the field to wear down your enemy, no more fancy stuff or being picky,...
>The cost to upgrade the old T-54 to T-54M is estimated at around $1-2 million per tank
That's mindbogglingly moronic. Why not buy a whole new tank instead?
> Why not buy a whole new tank instead?
It’s probably 1-2 million Vietnamese money which is significantly weaker than the US dollar.
Anon, the $ indicates USD not Vietnamese dong. 2,000,000 Vietnamese dong is equivalent to 81 USD. They are not upgrading anything for $81.
That's a lot of dongs for just 81 dollars.
You gotta figure those are some pretty shit dongs though.
Well in that case it might be better to buy from other countries or just develop your own tank at that point. Collaborate with foreign engineers and scientists to get an idea of how they should proceed in developing their own tank
> They are not upgrading anything for $81.
Maybe but Vietnam is incredibly corrupt so they might be to do something with $81
>Why not buy a whole new tank instead?
What new light tank/fire support vehicle at $1-2 million per one. Do tell. Flip bought Sarah light tank for $5.7+ million per one. moronic Indog brought Harimau for $7.5 million per one. Slavshit MBT T-90S cost around $6 million, Western MBT cost $8-10 million.
>famously corrupt communist government fails to accomplish anything in a timely manner if at all
Imagine my shock
cuz they're poor as dirt, next question.
They're poor alright tho. Most ASEAN c**ts are busy buying foreign made cruise missiles while Vietnam has a local cruise missile called VCM, decent technology and industry behind it so they can spam that VCM to other variants like the coastal defense systems, make it smaller or bigger at their needs.
Most ASEAN c**ts have zero capability to make artillery shells while Vietnam can, from simple to sophisticated fuzes like electromagnetic proximity fuze and propellant cases for those shells as well.
>lel u are poor, you cant make shitty stuff like us
literally nork tier mindset, commies are moronic
Do you even understand what I'm saying? So how a rich country fight a war if simple basic stuff like artillery shells can't be made in their own country? Not even talking about critical high-tech stuff like cruise missiles which Vietnam can make too.
>And if they had 8 billions like Vietnam, from 2014 to 2022
Vietnam only has $8 billion military budget in 2022-2023. Typical Vietnam based their military budget at 2% of GDP and only in 2022 where they hit over $400 billion in total GDP. Ukraine's economy after 2014 went downhill, they're only a bit better just before Russia invades them in 2022. Not enough time to do anything, really. If they knew for sure Russia would invade them in just 8 years, things might change much faster.
btw, brochure of Vietnam artillery shells and some ammunitions. Heck, tell Ukraine to contact Vietnam thru a 3rd party to buy those Soviet shells. Vietnam will likely give it a pass as long as Russia doesn't know.
Because its really expensive
This
>Why not buy a whole new tank instead?
And field 4 or 5 fewer tanks?
Watch your GDP fall as you take people out of the workforce
Indogs are muzzies
>$8 billion dollars
Is not a lot for the size of army they need to field
I enjoy the vietnamese obsession with firing 2 round bursts from everything
All the more impressive then. See picrel. They were THE only nation that managed to turn away an American bomber stream. Imagine getting shot down by monkeys.
>b,b,but they're corrupt
Yeah, your MIC isn't? The only difference is their corruption is at the low rank levels. Yours are at the senator/President level.
>but muh military is still bigger
No shit when the US can literally print more money at whim.
>No shit when the US can literally print more money at whim.
Given that you are moronic, I'm gonna give you a pass, but no, you cannot print money on a whim. Ask the Weimar Republic.
They didn't turn away the stream you moron. They just over came the distruction. The US lost at worst dozens of bombers while never aborting raids.
Theres no posturing with the Vietnamese Army. They don't want to be a regional power house, and they don't claim to be.
Well they might have to due to how increasingly aggressive and powerful China has been getting lately. They need to at least be powerful enough to where China would think twice before messing around with them. Even countries like the Philippines are scrambling to modernize their military as fast as possible
Only now, Philippines brought:
3 SPYDER (only 2 systems have been delivered),
3 BrahMos (3 systems still in delivery)
Vietnam since a decade ago:
Brought 5 SPYDER systems (according to SIPRI)
Brought 2 K-300P Bastion-P system.
If you think Vietnam was staying idle and only Philippines made progress in modernizing just because of their recent purchases then you're an idiot.
> If you think Vietnam was staying idle
I mean it’s partially true that Vietnam has been idle in their military development ever since the Russian-Ukraine war started. Vietnam is struggling to find a reliable foreign that isn’t too expensive and wouldn’t cause political tensions
Of course, they stay quiet because even if they somehow find a way to buy Russia shits, they will not public any news about it. I wouldn't know, you wouldn't know.
More importantly, they have a lot of local stuff that needs to be made. It could be a nice change of pace to prioritize local stuff with their budget amid the cut-off from Russia shits. You're looking at a country that can make hundreds of VCM cruise missiles and its variants annually. Most people don't know and Vietnam prefers that way. This pic was posted on Vietnamese social media and was quickly deleted from the internet.
Shut the frick up. Dink c**t
>You're looking at a country that can make hundreds of VCM cruise missiles and its variants annually.
Bullshit, the VCM is a piece of shit based off the same system as the Ukranian Neptune and even that has proven beyond Vietnam's capability to reverse engineer. It has not even left development
I guess that’s true but what’s the point in staying quiet about your military accomplishments and acquisitions? Won’t it be beneficial to publicly announce them to raise national morale and to directly tell China that you’re a problem?
Chill out anon. Your expectations are too high for a country like Vietnam. The fact that they’re even attempting to manufacture missiles is pretty impressive in itself. You’re forgetting the fact that Vietnam is still a third world country and is similar to that of African and South American nations.
I'm taking issue with the moronic claim that Vietnam is ahead of other SEAc**ts in cruise missiles. Especially as we still haven't seen the VCM out of development since 2016
>what’s the point in staying quiet about your military accomplishments and acquisitions?
So not likely to get slapped by ITAR from the US or China try to trace your component and make a hassle when you acquire it. We ain't Indog that always obsessed about bragging any military accomplishments and acquisitions on the internet if it serves no purpose and only paint a huge target on your back.
Main engine and booster, likely intend to start both of them together and running at the same time. 4 air intake at the engine shows how aggressively it needs to start up the compressor blade to get enough thrust.
>We ain't Indog that always obsessed about bragging any military accomplishments and acquisitions on the internet if it serves no purpose and only paint a huge target on your back
More lies from the Vietdog
Even if I keep calling you Indog, you don't need to oust yourself like that. Even showing you're the typical low IQ trash Indog that follows Indog military influencers on twitter.
>screencap of a twitter post about some gays screencap a tiktok video and its comments.
trash.
Hey, cant blame me on a very low opinion of the Indog like you. After all, you Indog have low IQ is a fact and so far, none of Indog in here can hold up the conversation, most are trash like I quote above.
The opinion of Vietdogs in the region:
>insecure microdicked manlets
>source of mail order brides for korean rich chinks in Taiwan and HK
>slave labors for Chink/Taiwanese factories/business park
>corrupt commie dictatorship
>next cheap c**t for Western backpackers to take advantage of when Thailand and maritime SEA becomes too expensive
>more stereotypes, off-topic to cope from Indog
Can you at least try to make /k/ related offensive remarks or shit on our old and outdated weapons? And you wonder why I gave no shit to Indog's opinion.
>our old and outdated weapon
Nothing needs to be posted beyond pics of Vietnamese regulars in pith helmets in current year for this to be obvious
Noooo IndogSir, we actually have plastic helmet now
That would be too easy
Yeah keep talking Nguyen, now come back when your warships actually comes with a kitchen
Indonesia lives rentfree in the minds of Vietdogs
Sebetulnya salah kita apa sih sama nguyen? Negara china kecil miskin, berisik, coping mulu mereka kek tiada hari tanpa iri dengki, mereka pantat panas cope mulu dan sering ngejek sini juga, kita ketemu salah di mereka, mereka malah marah banget
karena kalo marah ke pemerintah mereka, mereka kena tangkap?
Vietnam bersiaplah merasakan sakit hati dalam waktu dekat sepanjang tahun tahun ke depan untuk melihat berita penanda tanganan kontrak besar dari Indonesia, Kalian sangat salah menjadikan negara yang memiliki ekonomi terbesar di ASEAN sebagai "pesaing" dalam perbelanjaan militer
Karena marah-marah vietnam takut kalau Indonesia kuat maka mereka lebih susah impose will mereka di regional
Vietnam has fighter jets, a shitton of old tanks, submarines and frigates. Granted they're mostly slavshit that's still far more than the entire Philippine inventory.
They were begging Sweden for those C/D Gripens and now they've taken too long that they're about to be donated to Ukraine, they're the only SEA country without a submarine (even Myanmar has one) and they're the only SEA c**t who is getting rekt by the Chinese Coast Guard.
You will never see the Chinese Coast Guard attempt such aggression towards Vietnam, Malaysia or Indonesia. Heck, not even Taiwan.
>Vietnam, Malaysia or Indonesia
Vietnam or Indonesia would btfo the Chinese Coast Guard if they tried and they know it, based on how both countries have handled Chinese fishermen/maritime militia in the past. Malaysia did roll over worse than the Flips though, Chinese aircraft and ships have violated their EEZ willy-nilly with no response. Current Prime Minister of Malaysia needs Chinese investment
former philippine president was also pro-china
surprised he wasn't couped kek
there will always be asean politicians who will love chicom yuan
oh shit where's that Malaysiagay with the F-35 spam now?
Hah? No.
China conflict is china conflict. It's different from falling to the trap of one big bias nation like USA.
Malaysia just want to be neutral here. Not into USA nor Russia side.
With the help of ASEAN and other nations of course
Philippines come quite late to the party because of years of neglect and cut-down funds for their AFP. I found it funny that some gays think Vietnam is staying idle while Philippines is modernizing. Here, picture of a downsized VCM variant to fit on Viettel UCAV. Vietnam is far ahead ASEAN in terms of cruise missile technology.
>Bullshit, the VCM is a piece of shit based off the same system as the Ukranian Neptune and even that has proven beyond Vietnam's capability to reverse engineer. It has not even left development
Keep coping.
I can smell the fishsauce infused dogmeat from this post
>indog screeching
Like I said, take your typical low IQ post back to your echo chamber. Your country will forever know as an irrelevant shithole.
The only one coping here is the 5 foot Viet manlet with the fact that the VPAF is PLA-tier corrupt/incompetent
I'd say the PLA has done a better job at cleaning up corruption than the VPAF, excepting the whole thing with rocket fuel being used for cooking
Calm down anons
and Pantone brown Indian hands typed this one.
>dumb chink can't tell a Vietnamese ship from a Chinese one
Guess all slavshit looks the same
>Vietnam is far ahead ASEAN in terms of cruise missile technology
Wrong. The Philippines has BrahMos, Singapore has the Gabriel V/Blue Spear developed with Israel
>The Philippines has BrahMos
Monkey export variant that has cucked ranged compared to the ones jeets used. They've been scammed badly and should have waited for Kongsberg's Naval Strike Missile.
>NSM
Oh yeah, Malaysia has those as well (if the Maharajalelah class ever enters service kek)
Brahmos is still the most capable cruise missile SEA and when combined with American ISR assets in a shooting war against chinks, it can be pretty deadly
>Philippines's BrahMos
buy shit
>Singapore's Gabriel V/Blue Spear
buy shit, don't fall for the Singapore trick 'we made it here'. Singapore local industry moved away from their city state clay as they didn't want it under artillery barrage from Malaysia or Indog.
Look, Indog like you didn't have the IQ to fully understand what I'm saying so I don't care about your opinion. Your kinds are the bottom of humans.
>Dinky dau ching chong lucky lucky five dorra me love you long time
Sorry, I don't speak asiatic
Cope and seethe, Blue Spear is already in service in Estonia while we still haven't seen the mythical VCM-01
Is it in service of Singapore yet? Out of the joint venture development with Israel yet?
Heck, even if I gave you info about the VCM-B coastal defense system already having 1 system in service, you'll try to find a way to cope. That's how little your mind is, just so low IQ that most talks ain't worth my time. Whatever, dude. Life keeps moving on, Indog is still an irrelevant shithole.
>it's-s real i swear
lmao, I guess Vietnamese picked up something else from the vatniks other than slavshit
>Out of the joint venture development with Israel yet?
Yes that's what IOC means moron
>Indog is still an irrelevant shithole
Indonesia is being courted by Quad countries like the US and Australia as the only country in the region that can stand as a counterweight against China. Meanwhile Vietdogs are still barking for their masters in Beijing while trying to beg Americans for F-16s
>Indonesia is being courted by Quad countries like the US and Australia as the only country in the region that can stand as a counterweight against China.
lol, typical stupid Indog. Obsessed with praise and bragging.
> Indonesia is being courted by Quad countries like the US and Australia as the only country in the region that can stand as a counterweight against China.
Indonesia and the Philippines. The archipelago of these nations makes it basically impossible to invade. Vietnam is practically the Ukraine of the East right due to being right next to China
Viets will be the region's meatshield in a ground invasion. Flips will probably cop a lot of missiles if they are used as an allied base for a Taiwan op. I don't think China is going to make it as far to the Straits of Malacca and if they do, it means we're screwed
> I don't think China is going to make it as far to the Straits of Malacca and if they do, it means we're screwed
They possibly could make it but getting pass the terrain of Vietnam is challenging. It’s the most hostile environment to fight in (mountainous, tons of forest, muddy, constantly wet in some parts, monsoon season, etc)
Not sure about this
Currently your biggest threat region, a bunch of natives with bow and arrows. If you can’t handle a domestic threat how you going to respond to a full scale invasion
>don't think China is going to make it as far to the Straits of Malacca and if they do, it means we're screwed
If the PLAN is operating with impunity in the South China Sea it means Taiwan has fallen, the Philippines has been neutralized and the 7th Fleet and JMSDF are either mostly dead or running, which is highly unlikely.
That being said, the good news is that the Chinese are going to run into the next line of defense from Australia, Indonesia, Singapore and whatever US or European reinforcements coming in from the Indian Ocean. This will definitely stop them, especially if they've already been severely depleted by the fight for Taiwan
Isn’t Indonesia the same country the failed to suppress a rebellion inside their own borders for the last 50 years , actually fighting against people with spears.
What’s with the missile having two parts?
all piecemeal equipment just so their military and government can say they're "modernizing"
if i were china i'd just laugh at all these equipment since they will be so precious while i can waste more slanty eyed mobiks
i'd be more scared if pinoys started building thousands of ifvs, tanks, frigates and a few training squadrons while they wait for vipers or even f-35s
There's pretty much nothing substantial that you can achieve with such a tight budget.
There are other militaries with a lesser budget who have made a good amount of progress. Vietnam is bogged down by how much corruption they have. They’ve been trying to solve it by merging corps to remove corrupt officials
Daily reminder you can't spam DJI grenade spam against Chyna because they have kill switches.
They don't turn them off with Ukraine since they're making assloads of yuan with them. Those Alibaba sellers don't care if someone from Yurop buys 10000 DJI drones.
The budget isn't actually all that big considering the scale of the army (huge).
FDF has a budget of $6 billion while being like five times smaller and even then the FDF is still using what are basically AK-47s because what money there is goes to buying 64 F-35s.
On the other hand their air forces are quite pathetic for such a large country, compared to for example Finland's eternal 64 multi purpose fighter jets they've only got 35 Su-30s when it comes to modern aircraft.
I'm guessing that money just goes to keeping everything running, their ground forces are very old as well.
Yeah I’ve been looking into their military budget and where all that money goes and I’ve came to the conclusion that it goes to corrupt officials, maintaining their old hardwares and gigantic personnel, or they have a hidden military. I honestly still stand with the fact that they should abolish their conscription program and invest that money into better projects.
I’ve heard from some people that Vietnam actually has up to 12 subs but most of them are midget subs from NK. But idk if that’s true
Conscription is very efficient if done properly. If you abolish conscription then suddenly half of your budget goes to wages.
Honestly worth it. It’s better to send these guys off to universities or the workforce then to waste months to years of their life doing basically nothing in the military
Yeah we need to be more friendly to each other guys
Vietnam is trying to modify everything including R&D, infrastructure, and manufacturing. They are focusing on growing their economy as they're not under imminent threat. But they know the situation can change. They don't have any real alliances, and they have a fine balancing act to walk with China, who is both their main theoretical enemy and their main trading partner. Self-sufficiency has always been what Vits most desire after being a vassal for so long, so they're focusing on economy first and foremost.
> they're focusing on economy first and foremost.
Makes sense. The living conditions in Vietnam can be greatly improved. Most of the population is still living in favela levels of houses
they beat everyone at war anyways so why should they care?
Because modern warfare is different
They know they can win any war by putting a man in a hole. If PrepHole threads are anything to go by.
There you go, now Indogs, the shit eater from social media will flood this thread with their stupid low IQ post.
>they actually know PLA's real force projection capability
>Beijing friendly commie leadership wants it that way
>be low IQ Indog
>cant make cruise missile and coastal defense system
>cant copy or reserve engineering China C-705 even China gave them a working C-705 and its blueprint.
>Vietnam can make cruise missile and coastal defense system
>Indog has to jump through all kinds of mental gymnastics to live and cope with it.
I love to poke and make fun of those low IQ Indog so much. You wince them up, they come out and cope, make all stupid low IQ posts in /k/, post a screencap from twitter which screencap a tiktok video, that bad. Talk in Bahasa to each other and shit up the thread. Chaos, pure and unadulterated chaos materials, Indog haha.
Let's throw some bones back, don't say I'm not kind. Pick 1 picture in this folder about VCM-B coastal defense system and I will talk about it. From how many launchers per system, its FCS radar, estimate specs, why there are short and long missile canisters on a launcher,...
You sound like an autist
>You wince them up
ESL moment
Stfu homosexual ladyboy, it's going to take more than some rando screenshots in a folder with mspaint scribbles on top. Either put up or shut up
No one cares
Look at them cope. They're too scared to even ask or challenge it since they know it was a lost cause, haha. That's Indog for you, they rather live in their delusion bubble.
Hey you care enough to make a post or link this thread from whatever discord group you Indog come from.
We're not asking anything. You're the clown who's trying to pass off a screenshot of a folder as some kind of own.
I'll repeat since you're too moronic to understand:
No
One
Cares
Look at this Viet pussy too much of a homosexual to post any of his supersekrit picture collection. Maybe he's afraid of being picked up by the Ministry of Public Security?
Either post them or don't, and get fricked. You think you're cute playing this silly vatnikshill Armchair Warlord game? The anus will be clenched soon and everything will be revealed
I'll post but only when you beg me, cause that's how normal people should treat the low IQ Indog like you, ha.
Since your kind still rather cope and live with 'VCM does not exist, still in development'.
>We're not asking anything.
Yes you're
But when seeing how real the VCM is, you chicken out and dare not to challenge it with 'VCM does not exist, still in development' anymore. Pretending you do not care when keep replying here.
No one cares Nguyen
>But when seeing how real the VCM is, you chicken out and dare not to challenge it with 'VCM does not exist, still in development' anymore. Pretending you do not care when keep replying here.
Ha, you're no fun, Indog. From being so sure that "VCM does not exist, still in development" cope to now completely "we don't care".
Guess I did scare you c**ts out of this matter, played my card too soon.
>pussies out from posting proof
>n-no u
>pussies out from just asking for a picture
>"we're not asking anything"
>"no one cares"
That's right. No one cares enough to ask, and since you can't or won't post, you've been exposed for the homosexual you are. Well played
>No one cares enough to ask
more like the Indog chicken out and didn't dare to even ask for a picture, haha. Pathetic.
You know, those 3 still have higher IQ than the Indog. And they at least have cruise missiles while Indog has none.
Guess what homosexual, no one is going to ask. So we can only reach the conclusion you have no evidence and have been bullshitting the entire time, very implessive
Prease understand, in bugman's mind (whether Chinese or Vietnamese), he wins if you don't borher to ask him for proof for his fantastic claims
Again, why the frick should we ask? You're the one making the claims here, so back them up or frick off
Cause you wasting my time educating the low IQ trash from social media Indog like you. So at least be police and ask for it.
I know your kind, if I'm doing something when none of you ask, you'll switch the cope to the classic "no one care, didn't ask" and like that, waste my time.
The only thing you're educating is the rest of the world on how Viets think and behave - which turns out to be exactly like a chink shill making baseless claims to have quantum hypersonic electromagnetic AI while posting a conveniently censored photograph
Commies, one and the same color
>baseless claims
Then ask for proof. You didn't even ask, for frick sake! You low Indog trash chicken out.
Like I said: no one is going to care about your stupid Viet pride to ask. And since you decided to play cute and act like a titanic homosexual, guess who's the one who looks to be full of shit?
>I'm not even Indonesian
>"no one is going to care"
Ding ding ding. Like I said, classic low Indog just want to waste your time. They want you to proof your claim but wont ask it so they can pull this crap.
I'm not even Indonesian, but I'm taking their side just because of how much of a homosexual you are
Yeah that anon shouldn’t be so aggressive to another anon who is most likely going to be allies when China attacks
Russia, Vietnam and China have an inferiority complex and feel the need, to constantly proclaim that their weapon systems are unmatched. While the US has the best toys in the world and quietly goes about its business.
>j-just wait till I post the pic to pwn u! u just need to ask me first
Yup, back to Indog coping and shit up this thread.
> no one is going to ask. So we can only reach the conclusion you have no evidence and have been bullshitting the entire time, very impressive
>you'll switch the cope to the classic "no one care, didn't ask" and like that, waste my time.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. The low IQ Indog trashes were so low they make up all kind of cope to live with their sad live.
We sold them 2 of these a few years ago, the Coast Guard was replacing them with shiny new ones.
I thought that was the Philippines
The US donated a couple of coast guard cutter to both nations. The ships are around 2500-3000 tons so they’re a nice addition. Both Vietnam and the Philippines has lots of experience in shipbuilding but I’m not sure about military shipbuilding
Here is the spec of VRS-MCX maritime surveillance and fire control radar on VCM-B coastal defense system. The Indog rather belive this radar and the whole VCM-B system do not exist, creating all kinds of copes about this radar is rebrand or just exist in CG.
Then the fricking Indog will cope wil this post by "didn't care, didn't ask" crap because I walked into this same conversation so many times. The low IQ Indog were so stupid and use every kind of tricks to cope and waste your time.
Nothing's actually stopping you from posting the pics and shutting them up, you know. All this ranting just makes you sound autistic and makes your country look bad
Nah, they will pull that "didn't ask, didn't care" and ignore the whole thing. I don't want to waste my time and look like an ass to them. Too many time fall for that trick.
Welp, then don't blame the rest of us for taking them at their word when they say you're full of shit and you can't offer any evidence to the contrary
Whatever dude, this thread went to shit once those Indog from twitter and discord has to come to defense of their Indo pride, posting the same old meme they think as jab to Vietnam like a hivemind.
I can make a new thread about VCM-B, much more educated and civil but not this thread with the amount Indog and their homosexualry in here.
because u r coward and humiliated by indonesian for having no proof
>Viet schizo loses his mind as he realizes Indogs are too obtuse to do as he asks
Kek, InGODS, I kneel
>Indog homosexualry shit up the thread with their "no one care" but still reply to every post about VCM and drag on this this thread.
>sirry roundeyes! here proof that vietnam stronk! Now beg me to post!
>No, frick off
>b-but you have to ask! ask me to post dickpic! u-u general tso's chicken!
You are here
>"no one care"
>keep relying on every post about VCM
>"we're didn't ask, didn't care about your VCM!"
>repeat loop
Yep, it's Indog alright.
Bet you think you can fool me but Indog diaspora is still Indog in my book. Tell more of your Indog friend from discord come to /k/ and shit up this board with your low IQ post, maybe then they would range ban Indog so you c**t can back to your local chan. And stop being a gay Indog in Brit, you gayget.
https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7Dm8QzzTp-7VPI4n56OtoSarmHQAlb4c
>indogs post like a /misc/estinian shill
Curious
>SEAmonkey thread
>Tiresome bickering
Every single time.
Those BTR-152s look in way better condition than the more modern Russian vehicles.
>it's another SEA-monkey battle royale
God, i love these. almost as kino as Nip v. asiatic bants.