>the M4A1 killed the submachine gun
I don’t think that really happened until 10.5” barrels started being accepted as usable and desirable. Then you have a gun that’s short enough to clear interiors efficiently and natively mount accessories like lights and IR devices.
>Hits someone with 7.62 Real Fricking NATO anywhere on the body >Sends them straight to hell to be tortured by Squid and his two SCARs (don't forget about his Benellis) >All external wounds are healed by the purity of the Virgin Mary due to his use of a roller-delayed blowback battle rifle
I'm sorry you're just too pussy to handle a real rifle.
It was made tiny, so that people could sit inside and jump out of humvees more easily. M16 guys would often get the barrel stuck in the door sills when attempting to dismount.
The M4 was meant to have the same role as the M1 Carbine in WWII, a small rifle for non-combat-arms troops to fill the gap between a full length infantry rifle and pistol.
Zero Reason we can’t scale down the 5.56 to ~1.8” or so in OAL and use a hybrid case @80kpsi to retain performance and chamber it in a mag-in-grip gun (mp7-style).. 10” barrel, and you have a holsterable mk18.
Im 5'6 and think it is very tiny, even g3 and fal are not as big as I expected them to be, follow up shots are a big slower but not by that much. I like the size of the RPK very much
Related question but I don’t want to start a new tread.
Would an M4 of or a 12 gauge (buckshot) deal more damage to a small UAV like pic rel, shooting from 100 feet?
The 12 gauge would work better. At 100 feet (33yd) the shot hasn’t lost enough velocity or dropped enough to damage hit probability and would likely even hit multiple times.
Look up Paul Harrel’s videos on shotguns-he does a lot to dispel myths and misconceptions about them.
That said, 100 feet is short range for an M4- a decent shooter can go to 200yds on static targets with irons and even further with optics.
Thanks.
My concern is if the pellets would still be able to deal damage to the internals after piercing the composite skin (or a thin aluminum one).
What would be the effective range for a 12 gauge for such target then?
Is it? I guess if you're coming from .308s it might seem that way, just seems normal to me.
>Is it?
>it's not tiny
it's only slightly longer and heavier than picrel
essentially the M4A1 killed the submachine gun
>the M4A1 killed the submachine gun
I don’t think that really happened until 10.5” barrels started being accepted as usable and desirable. Then you have a gun that’s short enough to clear interiors efficiently and natively mount accessories like lights and IR devices.
Built for weaklings. Behold 5'6" chad with battle rifle.
>runs out of ammo at the first engagement
>dies
>Hits someone with 7.62 Real Fricking NATO anywhere on the body
>Sends them straight to hell to be tortured by Squid and his two SCARs (don't forget about his Benellis)
>All external wounds are healed by the purity of the Virgin Mary due to his use of a roller-delayed blowback battle rifle
I'm sorry you're just too pussy to handle a real rifle.
What nation's kit is that?
Army gays couldn't handle the virility of an M16A4
The USMC considered this a good enough pistol
Have you learned to lace your boots yet gomer
>almost 9 lbs naked.
>now throw on necessary accessories.
>most which hang off the end of a 20-inch barrel.
>not free floated
>nonadjustable stock
You don't shoot much do you?
>Thinking a 5.56 rifle needs to be free floated
Wew
For epic room clearing tactical cqb duh
that's what she said
I know it seems like it but fully extend the stock and hold it at your side it's not tiny anymore. It looks like it sometimes. Yeah ARs are handy.
It was made tiny, so that people could sit inside and jump out of humvees more easily. M16 guys would often get the barrel stuck in the door sills when attempting to dismount.
So I can conceal carry it in public.
i-it's a grower not a shower
The M4 was meant to have the same role as the M1 Carbine in WWII, a small rifle for non-combat-arms troops to fill the gap between a full length infantry rifle and pistol.
No it wasn't you moron.
Smol gun kewl
Zero Reason we can’t scale down the 5.56 to ~1.8” or so in OAL and use a hybrid case @80kpsi to retain performance and chamber it in a mag-in-grip gun (mp7-style).. 10” barrel, and you have a holsterable mk18.
Hybrid case 221 fireball basically.
Im 5'6 and think it is very tiny, even g3 and fal are not as big as I expected them to be, follow up shots are a big slower but not by that much. I like the size of the RPK very much
Related question but I don’t want to start a new tread.
Would an M4 of or a 12 gauge (buckshot) deal more damage to a small UAV like pic rel, shooting from 100 feet?
The 12 gauge would work better. At 100 feet (33yd) the shot hasn’t lost enough velocity or dropped enough to damage hit probability and would likely even hit multiple times.
Look up Paul Harrel’s videos on shotguns-he does a lot to dispel myths and misconceptions about them.
That said, 100 feet is short range for an M4- a decent shooter can go to 200yds on static targets with irons and even further with optics.
Thanks.
My concern is if the pellets would still be able to deal damage to the internals after piercing the composite skin (or a thin aluminum one).
What would be the effective range for a 12 gauge for such target then?
I prefer the term "fun-sized."
That's just normal carbine sized. Real guns don't look like the over grown monstrosities in video games.
Why shouldn’t it be?