Why is it so hard for firearm manufacturers to make a bullpup that doesn't suffer from shitty triggers, gassing you if you shoot with a can and b...

Why is it so hard for firearm manufacturers to make a bullpup that doesn't suffer from shitty triggers, gassing you if you shoot with a can and bad ergonomics?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    idk bro maybe because the trigger is in front of the hammer

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >shitty trigger
    nature of the beast
    >gas
    idk lol!!
    >bad ergo
    practice, user is unfamiliar with bullpups

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >practice, user is unfamiliar with bullpups
      Or rather than wasting time training all the infantry on an inferior weapon plan, you can just drop a mortar or two hundred through the roof of whatever building you're trying to take and shoot the shell-shocked survivors stumbling out with regular rifles.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Why waste time training soldiers with conventional rifles when you can just push a red button and vaporize your enemies?

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    You pull a trigger. The trigger is connected to mechanisms that make the bullet fly out. If the action is closer, your trigger pull doesn't need to travel as far. The problem is the trigger and action are much farther in a bullpup, thus much harder to make it good.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >main barrel length
      >implying there is a secondary barrel
      >includes the receiver in barrel length
      >it doesn't even measure the entire length of the barrel
      How does one make an info graph so terrible?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I mean, the term "main barrel" makes no sense, but the part of the gun that the graph is referring to does. Its the part that makes the gun go bang bang, the rest of the barrel after the gas port can be more or less any length you fancy, with the extra length for the stock being the main difference between them.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shitty Trigger - A long connector bar between the trigger and the striker/hammer release will always give you a bad trigger because you got to move more mass. During my time in the service, I have shot the Steyr AUG, FAMAS F1, Bushmaster M17S, and Enfield L85A2. Compared to the M4, the triggers were too heavy, too mushy, and were just plain awful compared to the USGI triggers in the M4 and were even more crappy compared to the aftermarket trigger in my personal AR15.

    Powder Blast - When the primer of the bullet is detonated, causing a flame to travel into and detonate the smokeless powder, the chamber, bolt, and barrel has to contain the explosion. The gas has to go somewhere. It will try to get out every gap it can. No bolt can 100-percent contain every bit of burning gas and powder. There will always be gas seeping out and in a bullpup, you will get some gas and burning powder in your face. You get some with the M4, but it is forward of your face, not directly under your chin. With a can, you get more expanding gas getting kick back into the chamber and into your face.

    Ergonomics - I admit that 20+ years of training and experience with conventionally laid-out rifles have caused me issues using bullpup rifles. Contrary to what most folks think, not every American solder or Marine is a gun nut. I grew up in a military family and was trained in firearms as a kid. However, when I was in boot, half my fellow recruits only exposure to firearms was watching Hollywood movies and maybe some time with a BB gun. We all went through training and mastered the M4/M16 rifle because we had to or suffer. As we advanced, some of us were trained on other weapon systems, but for many of us, we specialized in the M4. Most US veterans have an almost instinctive reflect reaction when handling, shooting, reloading, and clearing out jams in our rifles. It is hard to change over the reactions of an entire army to a new weapon system. This is why successor systems are similar to M4.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      TLDR; I don't know any better and I won't budge from my [lowest bidder product] because of brand loyalty

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The distance between the trigger and the action on bullpups has nothing to do with the feel of the trigger. It's the design of the gun itself that ultimately has the last say. There are bullpups like the M17S that are explicitly designed to have good triggers, and there are conventional guns that have poor triggers despite lacking any appreciable distance between trigger group and action. It all boils down to design.

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Trigger is easy, just use a circuit with a microswitch and a solenoid.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If it's so easy why hasn't it happened?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Gun electronics in fiction good, gun electronics in reality bad.
        >t. the entirety of the firearms consumer base, apparently
        IIRC the Arcflash guns have them, but they're weird experiments in all directions.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        It already has.
        https://digitrigger.com/

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Not worth $600

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If it's so easy why hasn't it happened?

      Gun electronics in fiction good, gun electronics in reality bad.
      >t. the entirety of the firearms consumer base, apparently
      IIRC the Arcflash guns have them, but they're weird experiments in all directions.

      I believe ATF also plays a part here. They don't like electronics in a trigger component because full giggle concerns on their part.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      EMP

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    God i wanna frick a female elite soooo bad

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I’m glad I’m not the only one. The only frickable Halo alien species

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no ungoy pussy?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          no because they breathe methane. What about brute pussy?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >et tu, brutussy?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous
            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous
            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >HE WAS A PROPHET OF THE COVENANT!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You can make kig'yar work but they kind of end up looking like kobolds versus the toothy bird horrors they really are.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I guess as long as its T'vaoans or Ibie'shan you can make it work.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Only?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        counterpoint:

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous
      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I thought from the thumbnail that it said hold rb to plap

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        source?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Check e6

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            already did, couldn't find it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Elites look like worms without their armour, they should never under any circumstance take it off

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Wtf bro

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        That's the normal position weirdo.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      It's a good thing he was in New Mombasa and not Reach then

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Jiralhane girls are more appealing because space gorilla

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Brutes were never supposed to be gorillas or orcs for that matter, newbie.
        They were supposed to be awesome Grizzly bear rhinoceros monsters.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Even better

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Fair enough, I dont care if you frick the alien monster just as long as you frick their more based design.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Shitty trigger is mostly a cost thing, we can machine things well enough to give them a good trigger but that costs way more than stamping out something close enough.

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    super long trigger bar gets stretchy / may twist
    from my experience with mechanisms it might just be easier to use hydraulics if they were not so leaky

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They aren't leaky at all done right, when was the last time you have your car brakes leak?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >car brakes leak ?
        the fittings weap a little bit, but its not enough to have a notable effect with such a large reservoir
        I think for a smaller system the fittings would need to be allot better to make sure air does not get in
        the heat and oil resistance of the tubes is probably sufficient

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Marriage to Sangheili.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      kissing to sangheili, all risks included

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    RDB has none of those problems.
    >trigger?
    sear is at the trigger instead of connected by a linkage
    >gas in face?
    adjustable gas piston
    >ergos?
    will literally balance on its flash hider.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      RDB is the best bullpup I’ve ever shot. I own a 20” and like it, but like all kekteks, it’s “almost good”. Bullpup configurations work best as bolties.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    How wet are Elite pussies?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Quite

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >dude bad triggers
    >stupid ideas about triggers
    >muh ergos
    >muh military use
    >muh gassing

    Why the frick does this thread with all the same dumbfrick theory crafting about whizbang triggers and uninformed opinions need to happen every single day?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Bullpup gays know no bounds in their moronation

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is this a bullpup? In fact, the frick is this French gun?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      does it explode if you pull both triggers?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        https://i.imgur.com/OgXb6ED.jpg

        Is this a bullpup? In fact, the frick is this French gun?

        one trigger is fires at 1000rpm the other at 300

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >irrelevant lust provoking image
    God I wish that were me.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The BR55 is a bullpup

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So are the assault rifles...

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ngl playing Halo Reach as a kid is probably why I want a bullpup

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            I loved the Silenced SMG in ODST personally, a shame I'm not aware of any guns with a similar style of magazine (I'm more of a swordtard so my gun knowledge is lacking)

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              I've seen people make custom parts for keltec guns and turn them into Halo replicas

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              The magazine works the same as the P90's except it loads from the side. The real kicker is the ammo, the M7 is caseless. You could make a cope replica that just takes P90 mags. Would be a little harder than that Aussie flipping a shotgun upside down, but seems doable if you have some gunsmithing skill.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    RDB

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The trigger is only shitty if you're some autist marksman LARPer. Actual soldiers get along just fine.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If your trigger is worse than a milspec run of the mill no thrills ar-15 trigger you've done something stupid.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Every 2-stage aftermarket AR trigger is worse than milspec. The single stage basic b***h trigger is unironically perfect and bullpups need to stop trying to emulate the worse option.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You don't own an AR

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Shitty pic but this build puts 2 hits/sec on a man-sized steel target at 440 yards. Put in a Hiperfire 2-stage because everybody told me it's the best thing you could ever put on your gun and it was notably worse to shoot than the bargain bin LPK trigger I had on it in the first place. 2-stage is marketing bullshit by glockgays with Stockholm Syndrome.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Do you not own guns or just not train enough?

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >shitty trigger
    M17S, RDB, MDR, X95 with trigger pack

    >gassiness
    Come back when regular guns have solved it.

    >ergos
    Baby duck syndrome. Its more ergonomic than conventionals to the point the average user shoots better with a bullpup.

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    post more aliens please

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