Why is it so hard for firearm manufacturers to make a bullpup that doesn't suffer from shitty triggers, gassing you if you shoot with a can and bad ergonomics?
Why is it so hard for firearm manufacturers to make a bullpup that doesn't suffer from shitty triggers, gassing you if you shoot with a can and bad ergonomics?
idk bro maybe because the trigger is in front of the hammer
>shitty trigger
nature of the beast
>gas
idk lol!!
>bad ergo
practice, user is unfamiliar with bullpups
>practice, user is unfamiliar with bullpups
Or rather than wasting time training all the infantry on an inferior weapon plan, you can just drop a mortar or two hundred through the roof of whatever building you're trying to take and shoot the shell-shocked survivors stumbling out with regular rifles.
Why waste time training soldiers with conventional rifles when you can just push a red button and vaporize your enemies?
You pull a trigger. The trigger is connected to mechanisms that make the bullet fly out. If the action is closer, your trigger pull doesn't need to travel as far. The problem is the trigger and action are much farther in a bullpup, thus much harder to make it good.
>main barrel length
>implying there is a secondary barrel
>includes the receiver in barrel length
>it doesn't even measure the entire length of the barrel
How does one make an info graph so terrible?
I mean, the term "main barrel" makes no sense, but the part of the gun that the graph is referring to does. Its the part that makes the gun go bang bang, the rest of the barrel after the gas port can be more or less any length you fancy, with the extra length for the stock being the main difference between them.
Shitty Trigger - A long connector bar between the trigger and the striker/hammer release will always give you a bad trigger because you got to move more mass. During my time in the service, I have shot the Steyr AUG, FAMAS F1, Bushmaster M17S, and Enfield L85A2. Compared to the M4, the triggers were too heavy, too mushy, and were just plain awful compared to the USGI triggers in the M4 and were even more crappy compared to the aftermarket trigger in my personal AR15.
Powder Blast - When the primer of the bullet is detonated, causing a flame to travel into and detonate the smokeless powder, the chamber, bolt, and barrel has to contain the explosion. The gas has to go somewhere. It will try to get out every gap it can. No bolt can 100-percent contain every bit of burning gas and powder. There will always be gas seeping out and in a bullpup, you will get some gas and burning powder in your face. You get some with the M4, but it is forward of your face, not directly under your chin. With a can, you get more expanding gas getting kick back into the chamber and into your face.
Ergonomics - I admit that 20+ years of training and experience with conventionally laid-out rifles have caused me issues using bullpup rifles. Contrary to what most folks think, not every American solder or Marine is a gun nut. I grew up in a military family and was trained in firearms as a kid. However, when I was in boot, half my fellow recruits only exposure to firearms was watching Hollywood movies and maybe some time with a BB gun. We all went through training and mastered the M4/M16 rifle because we had to or suffer. As we advanced, some of us were trained on other weapon systems, but for many of us, we specialized in the M4. Most US veterans have an almost instinctive reflect reaction when handling, shooting, reloading, and clearing out jams in our rifles. It is hard to change over the reactions of an entire army to a new weapon system. This is why successor systems are similar to M4.
TLDR; I don't know any better and I won't budge from my [lowest bidder product] because of brand loyalty
The distance between the trigger and the action on bullpups has nothing to do with the feel of the trigger. It's the design of the gun itself that ultimately has the last say. There are bullpups like the M17S that are explicitly designed to have good triggers, and there are conventional guns that have poor triggers despite lacking any appreciable distance between trigger group and action. It all boils down to design.
Trigger is easy, just use a circuit with a microswitch and a solenoid.
If it's so easy why hasn't it happened?
Gun electronics in fiction good, gun electronics in reality bad.
>t. the entirety of the firearms consumer base, apparently
IIRC the Arcflash guns have them, but they're weird experiments in all directions.
It already has.
https://digitrigger.com/
Not worth $600
I believe ATF also plays a part here. They don't like electronics in a trigger component because full giggle concerns on their part.
EMP
God i wanna frick a female elite soooo bad
I’m glad I’m not the only one. The only frickable Halo alien species
no ungoy pussy?
no because they breathe methane. What about brute pussy?
>et tu, brutussy?
>HE WAS A PROPHET OF THE COVENANT!
You can make kig'yar work but they kind of end up looking like kobolds versus the toothy bird horrors they really are.
I guess as long as its T'vaoans or Ibie'shan you can make it work.
Only?
counterpoint:
I thought from the thumbnail that it said hold rb to plap
source?
Check e6
already did, couldn't find it.
Elites look like worms without their armour, they should never under any circumstance take it off
Wtf bro
That's the normal position weirdo.
It's a good thing he was in New Mombasa and not Reach then
Jiralhane girls are more appealing because space gorilla
Brutes were never supposed to be gorillas or orcs for that matter, newbie.
They were supposed to be awesome Grizzly bear rhinoceros monsters.
Even better
Fair enough, I dont care if you frick the alien monster just as long as you frick their more based design.
Shitty trigger is mostly a cost thing, we can machine things well enough to give them a good trigger but that costs way more than stamping out something close enough.
super long trigger bar gets stretchy / may twist
from my experience with mechanisms it might just be easier to use hydraulics if they were not so leaky
They aren't leaky at all done right, when was the last time you have your car brakes leak?
>car brakes leak ?
the fittings weap a little bit, but its not enough to have a notable effect with such a large reservoir
I think for a smaller system the fittings would need to be allot better to make sure air does not get in
the heat and oil resistance of the tubes is probably sufficient
Marriage to Sangheili.
kissing to sangheili, all risks included
RDB has none of those problems.
>trigger?
sear is at the trigger instead of connected by a linkage
>gas in face?
adjustable gas piston
>ergos?
will literally balance on its flash hider.
RDB is the best bullpup I’ve ever shot. I own a 20” and like it, but like all kekteks, it’s “almost good”. Bullpup configurations work best as bolties.
How wet are Elite pussies?
Quite
>dude bad triggers
>stupid ideas about triggers
>muh ergos
>muh military use
>muh gassing
Why the frick does this thread with all the same dumbfrick theory crafting about whizbang triggers and uninformed opinions need to happen every single day?
Bullpup gays know no bounds in their moronation
Is this a bullpup? In fact, the frick is this French gun?
does it explode if you pull both triggers?
one trigger is fires at 1000rpm the other at 300
>irrelevant lust provoking image
God I wish that were me.
The BR55 is a bullpup
So are the assault rifles...
Ngl playing Halo Reach as a kid is probably why I want a bullpup
I loved the Silenced SMG in ODST personally, a shame I'm not aware of any guns with a similar style of magazine (I'm more of a swordtard so my gun knowledge is lacking)
I've seen people make custom parts for keltec guns and turn them into Halo replicas
The magazine works the same as the P90's except it loads from the side. The real kicker is the ammo, the M7 is caseless. You could make a cope replica that just takes P90 mags. Would be a little harder than that Aussie flipping a shotgun upside down, but seems doable if you have some gunsmithing skill.
RDB
The trigger is only shitty if you're some autist marksman LARPer. Actual soldiers get along just fine.
If your trigger is worse than a milspec run of the mill no thrills ar-15 trigger you've done something stupid.
Every 2-stage aftermarket AR trigger is worse than milspec. The single stage basic b***h trigger is unironically perfect and bullpups need to stop trying to emulate the worse option.
You don't own an AR
Shitty pic but this build puts 2 hits/sec on a man-sized steel target at 440 yards. Put in a Hiperfire 2-stage because everybody told me it's the best thing you could ever put on your gun and it was notably worse to shoot than the bargain bin LPK trigger I had on it in the first place. 2-stage is marketing bullshit by glockgays with Stockholm Syndrome.
Do you not own guns or just not train enough?
>shitty trigger
M17S, RDB, MDR, X95 with trigger pack
>gassiness
Come back when regular guns have solved it.
>ergos
Baby duck syndrome. Its more ergonomic than conventionals to the point the average user shoots better with a bullpup.
post more aliens please