Once you shoot the enemy has an idea of where you are. If you scoot, you are no longer where the enemy things you are. This helps you avoid return fire.
Trying not to get shot, diversions, combined arms tactics, precision weapons, and competent leadership are all cowardly western techniques the Ukrainians use to trick the gallant Russian fighting man.
> Self-propelled artillery is now an ISIS-American tactic > FUN FACT: Those Mstas in the 2nd Chechnyan war and all those Smerchs and Tornados are actually just on loan to Russia from the US
If only vatniks weren't completely and utterly devoid of all honor and actually backed up their wods, they would nicely line up 18th century style to get mowed down as they march toward the enemy.
>azerbaijan starts full scale war again with armenia >russia is forced to repsond in some way >lost so much equipment in ukraine we start to see Russian T-34s role into Nagorno-Karabakh with conscripts only armed with nuggets
>america begins pumping tons of lend lease material into russia once again >russians manage to repel azeri forces after losing several millions of their men
Apparently the only point of russian SPGs is the protection from shell fragments afforded by their armor. Otherwise they use them just like towed artillery.
To the homosexual in the last thread whining like a b***h about war not being /k/ I hope you fricking seee this you homosexual, gos for you too mods. I even think gun control should be /k/ if limited to a fricking general. GUN control. Fricking douches. God I hate pol, it’s literal visual shit
Yeah bud your just wrong and likely an American tucker fan. It was the same thing with Syria and lybia, I found out about mohmmar ghaddafi here from pics taken by the mob who found him way before the news picked it up. Same with Georgia and when Greece and turkey spat. Only difference, THIS is a REAL happening, it’s land war in Europe and we are watching one of the worlds heavy hitters lose all credibility. If it was the other way around and Ukraine folded then they woulda been looking smugly at Poland next. People here are army vets, war historians, and people like me who are simply interested. /misc/ is fricking shit, so is arg, get out of the thread if you don’t care, but you clearly do because your a whiny fricking former tump tard (legit think Putin planned this thinking trump would be in office) homosexual or a drunken vatnik loser
>Why is it an ISIS-American tactic to shoot and scoot?
Because it tries to make a link in the minds of the uninitiated between a mediaeval death-cult and the US - the actual tactic is irrelevant in this case. It's propaganda.
The actual tactic is common sense and all armies of any quality (last phrase added for the Russians) practice it, especially when the enemy has artillery-seeking radar and audio detection systems
Friendly reminder that Russia not only fired artillery into Ukraine from Russia without declaring war in 2014, they also drove their artillery over the border, shot and then scooted back over the border to Russia.
Not really the same thing. Fire and flee, let's go with that. Glad we could think tank this promotional material everyone. There is coffee in the break room for everyone, and no it isn't free.
It's just a huge conventional force trying to bait a smaller unconventional force into a standup fight on the field of battle. No one is stupid enough to fall for it since we stopped charging machineguns but Russia tried anyway.
Warfare is mobility and firepower. Whether at the tip of a spear or a missile, the ability to maneuver and bring force to bear on a target better than your enemy is what wins a victory on the battlefield.
Once you shoot the enemy has an idea of where you are. If you scoot, you are no longer where the enemy things you are. This helps you avoid return fire.
And this is why the Russians are losing, they expect their enemies to stay still so they can fire upon them.
>they expect
more like require
how else are they supposed to hit anything with that 500m CEP
It's the tactic for people who don't wanna frickin die
Do you prefer the Gayreek and Serbroach tactic of chimping out and hoping someone else saves you (but then they don't show up)??
Hide and seek is more fun if you hide.
true
>Chad Shoot n' Scoot vs Virgin Hide n' Seek
Make it happen
>shoot at enemy
>try not to get shot
Apparently these are unique trademark tactics exclusive to only 2 military forces
Trying not to get shot, diversions, combined arms tactics, precision weapons, and competent leadership are all cowardly western techniques the Ukrainians use to trick the gallant Russian fighting man.
> Self-propelled artillery is now an ISIS-American tactic
> FUN FACT: Those Mstas in the 2nd Chechnyan war and all those Smerchs and Tornados are actually just on loan to Russia from the US
If only vatniks weren't completely and utterly devoid of all honor and actually backed up their wods, they would nicely line up 18th century style to get mowed down as they march toward the enemy.
You're meant to sit there and let them take a shot back. It's not fair if you run away and I'm totally telling on you for not playing fair.
>shoot and scoot?
It is to complicated a tactic for Russia, if you try to explain it, they will not understand.
>dat tank.
I wonder how next year, the Russians parade is going to looks like.
Probably like this (Their most advanced remaining tanks)
>azerbaijan starts full scale war again with armenia
>russia is forced to repsond in some way
>lost so much equipment in ukraine we start to see Russian T-34s role into Nagorno-Karabakh with conscripts only armed with nuggets
would love to see it
>america begins pumping tons of lend lease material into russia once again
>russians manage to repel azeri forces after losing several millions of their men
it's like poetry, it rhymes
Damn you George Lucas.
>Turkey is pissed
>NATO loses one of it's stronger members
B-Bros, is this the plan...!?
Apparently the only point of russian SPGs is the protection from shell fragments afforded by their armor. Otherwise they use them just like towed artillery.
The M109 paladin is the same. The armor is just for shell fragments and small arms fire.
>shoots
>18 seconds to scoot
>doesnt
>russian tank commander lands on the house behind
>op is either moronic or a gay
Not Russian it was a German American operated NATO tank
nope already proven as German Pz4
just another case of hohols showing their own losses as russian
>opened paint
That's a lot of efforts for such a shit bait.
>German Pz4
Nice
>mfw this shit could be straight from Russian MOD
Well done.
mucho obligado
The PzIV in Panzermuseum Munster is tan, tho. Because it is from the Afrikakorps.
holy shit
is he alright?
Yea, he's fine. He'll just walk it off.
>Abundant concealment all around
>Does nothing for 15 seconds after taking a shot
Displace you idiot, DISPLA-oh never mind.
To be fair, he just fired so it wasn't his turn again yet.
ukrainians won the speed tie
Props to whoever built that house to withstand a human falling at terminal velocity after getting explooded into the air.
The tank ran out of Action Points so it couldn't flee
Yep.; picrel is a case of "shooting and NOT scooting". Fricker went from infantry to airborne
he didn't fly so good!
He finally got that VDV promotion he always wanted.
He probably was waiting for his power meter to be full again
dude, stop killing my sides
Pretty fly for a white guy
Inb4
>vatniks
>white
To the homosexual in the last thread whining like a b***h about war not being /k/ I hope you fricking seee this you homosexual, gos for you too mods. I even think gun control should be /k/ if limited to a fricking general. GUN control. Fricking douches. God I hate pol, it’s literal visual shit
Yeah bud your just wrong and likely an American tucker fan. It was the same thing with Syria and lybia, I found out about mohmmar ghaddafi here from pics taken by the mob who found him way before the news picked it up. Same with Georgia and when Greece and turkey spat. Only difference, THIS is a REAL happening, it’s land war in Europe and we are watching one of the worlds heavy hitters lose all credibility. If it was the other way around and Ukraine folded then they woulda been looking smugly at Poland next. People here are army vets, war historians, and people like me who are simply interested. /misc/ is fricking shit, so is arg, get out of the thread if you don’t care, but you clearly do because your a whiny fricking former tump tard (legit think Putin planned this thinking trump would be in office) homosexual or a drunken vatnik loser
>Why is it an ISIS-American tactic to shoot and scoot?
Because it tries to make a link in the minds of the uninitiated between a mediaeval death-cult and the US - the actual tactic is irrelevant in this case. It's propaganda.
The actual tactic is common sense and all armies of any quality (last phrase added for the Russians) practice it, especially when the enemy has artillery-seeking radar and audio detection systems
"guys why dont you sit still and get hit by counter battery fire"
oh gee
Friendly reminder that Russia not only fired artillery into Ukraine from Russia without declaring war in 2014, they also drove their artillery over the border, shot and then scooted back over the border to Russia.
TOOT IT AND BOOT IT
>shoot and scoot
>fire and forget
>dump and ditch
>launch and lunch
>squirt and skirt
>cum and run
what else am I missing?
ejaculate and evacuate
kek
gun and run
Twist and shout
Nut and bolt
Shid and fard
>Nut and bolt
perfect
smash and dash
stab and dab
fire and retire
>fire and forget
Not really the same thing. Fire and flee, let's go with that. Glad we could think tank this promotional material everyone. There is coffee in the break room for everyone, and no it isn't free.
mog and jog
>sneed and feed
>blam and scram
>boom and zoom
>woof and hoof
>fry and fly
>squeeze it and cheese it
>>cum and run
the good ol' "Ejaculate & Evacuate"
Because it's US policy to get the highest K/D ratio possible.
assail and bail
Needs a radio on
It's just a huge conventional force trying to bait a smaller unconventional force into a standup fight on the field of battle. No one is stupid enough to fall for it since we stopped charging machineguns but Russia tried anyway.
Hey if it works, it works
no need to think too deeply about it
Isn’t this more of a Sun Tzu tactic, we aren’t the people who created this military tactic, it's been used for millennium.
Because they are not low iq?
U M A D
M
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21st century version of Brits complaining about not wearing uniforms and lineup volleys.
How does this little metal beam hold up a metal box of missiles that large?
cowardly western technology
Hydraulics
The 6 pack weight 12 tons. That is nothing for a small hydraulic jack.
hey do we have any footage, did the himars trucks ship with their LTAS armor or not?
Warfare is mobility and firepower. Whether at the tip of a spear or a missile, the ability to maneuver and bring force to bear on a target better than your enemy is what wins a victory on the battlefield.
Just Russian butthurt :^)