Still dumb.
You either have time to reload. Or need to be shooting. There is no time when you are shooting that you need to know how many bullets you have left.
Because it's a relatively high amount of expense for something without a lot of value, since soldiers reload "when you have a moment" or "when the gun goes click". Double that if you want something that accurately counts partial mags instead of resetting to a set number, because you'd need a way to register spring tension to tell you how full the mag is.
Windowed and even full translucent mags don't help you during the actual part where you'd need to see how many rounds you have left, which is towards the end. At least with the AR's gay magwell you can't see thr last few rounds, you certainly won't know you're near the last 1-3 rounds when you should reload.
Why are you waiting that long? Either your shooting to expenditure or you reload when there's a lull. The combat situation where you've shot ~25+ rounds and you're making a conscious value judgment about whether to reload or not, is not a circumstance that exists since you should always endeavor to have a full mag and the only thing that inhibits that is activity shooting right now or limited mag supply preventing a reload. Having a little round counter that tells me precisely how many rounds I've got wont change that, because I cannot be confident that the situation will develop in a way that less than 5 rounds can solve, so I reload regardless.
You physically have to focus your eyes off your target and onto your gun, and no one is doing that in the middle of a firefight. Thus it’s useless. Needs to be in the red dot window if it’s gonna be of any use.
It shouldn't be a matter of distraction or focus, one simple red dot should appear when you're at the last 3, 2, or 1 rounds. Maybe at your last 3rd, 3 dots appear. Then 2, then 1, then an X. Having such a big and bright number shining back at you would be an awful distraction and probably blind you/give your position away in low light.
How about a mag with an internal mechanism which makes a noise when the mag is at half, at the last round, etc. The sounds could be triggered by a simple device that catches on the spring plate ringing a little bell or something. Shit, if I were a mechanical engineer I’d make a million bucks selling those.
>Why hasn't this concept been implemented yet?
Literally what's the point in small arms? It could certainly be done in a variety of ways and wouldn't cost that much either, but how is it not a gimmick? You can just count your shots too.
In an aircraft or something where you have a high number of rounds but it's entirely fixed, when you're out you're out until RTB, and pilots have a million things going on, keeping track of ammo as well as all other consumables makes total sense and is done. For small arms with 30rnd mags or whatever why bother?
In some scifi future weapon thing where you've got an advanced energy weapon that can hold hundreds of shots or whatever sure gauge maybe makes sense as well as being gameplay but we don't have it because it's just not something anyone cares about.
Some steel string on a spool in the magazine’s baseplate, with the other end connected to the follower. As the follower goes up, the spool unravels. Degree of rotation of the spool is determined by the follower’s position in the magazine, thus tells you it’s remaining round count. Somehow (by Bluetooth maybe, idk, but there must be a way) relay this information to the optic, where it will display a live round count underneath the reticle. Have Microelectronics in the baseplate to accommodate all this. And a way to automatically turn the feature off when the mag is too far from the optic or in the wrong position e.g. not inserted into the gun.. Sig recently dropped a new optic with 2 zeros where both reticles can be on simultaneously, and they are different colors, so you could have a red reticle and green round counter below that. Make a red dot with a taller window to accommodate the extra info displayed. bam. Round count always right up there, always focused to your eye. Cant do anything about the one in the chamber without adding loads of complexity, but whatever, off by one is good enough.
>you can just count your shots
The point of technology is so you longer have to do stuff. “Why do hard things when you can do easy things (or nothing at all)” same can be applied to literally any other improvement in small arms (and any other domain as well) .. Moving from 308 to SCHV so you can carry more ammo? Just aim better, bro. Moving from irons to red dots? Just train more with irons bro. 10 round integral stripper clips to 30rd magazines? Just reload 3x as often bro, it only takes a second.
If you want to know how many rounds you have, use windowed mags. Otherwise, its just not important. You know intuitively if you've fired enough rounds to justify a reload (just round to the nearest 10, in you think you've fired more than 20 then load a fresh one), and if you've fired too many then you're dry and reloading regardless.
>>that post
because when you are doing shit like that you arent focused on the ammo counter number, you are blasting russians, and grabbing for your nades.
>Additional cost >Additional weight, bulk, breakable parts and batteries >Dubious reliability and value vs windowed/transparent mags >Visible light source that would probably be tapped over anyways for light discipline (see colonial marine corps manual from the movie series which even says marines do that in universe)
because in the heat of battle, you don't stop firing to count how many bullets you have left
u can just show it on your scope instead....
Still dumb.
You either have time to reload. Or need to be shooting. There is no time when you are shooting that you need to know how many bullets you have left.
Because it's a relatively high amount of expense for something without a lot of value, since soldiers reload "when you have a moment" or "when the gun goes click". Double that if you want something that accurately counts partial mags instead of resetting to a set number, because you'd need a way to register spring tension to tell you how full the mag is.
The alien can see when you're empty and attack.
Because life isn't like your heckin vidya games
Shut up, frog idiot.
the frog idiot is right
Nevabendunbefore
There are far simpler implementations.
how are hera mags by the way?
Windowed and even full translucent mags don't help you during the actual part where you'd need to see how many rounds you have left, which is towards the end. At least with the AR's gay magwell you can't see thr last few rounds, you certainly won't know you're near the last 1-3 rounds when you should reload.
bait or have you never actually used a pmag before?
Why are you waiting that long? Either your shooting to expenditure or you reload when there's a lull. The combat situation where you've shot ~25+ rounds and you're making a conscious value judgment about whether to reload or not, is not a circumstance that exists since you should always endeavor to have a full mag and the only thing that inhibits that is activity shooting right now or limited mag supply preventing a reload. Having a little round counter that tells me precisely how many rounds I've got wont change that, because I cannot be confident that the situation will develop in a way that less than 5 rounds can solve, so I reload regardless.
> can't tell how many rounds are left in the magazine by the weight
do people really?
Bro check your diabetes
I'd focus a bit more on your body weight rather than the magazine's
dafuq is the point?
Because its dumb.
it was long time ago, but it's just a vanity feature
You physically have to focus your eyes off your target and onto your gun, and no one is doing that in the middle of a firefight. Thus it’s useless. Needs to be in the red dot window if it’s gonna be of any use.
It shouldn't be a matter of distraction or focus, one simple red dot should appear when you're at the last 3, 2, or 1 rounds. Maybe at your last 3rd, 3 dots appear. Then 2, then 1, then an X. Having such a big and bright number shining back at you would be an awful distraction and probably blind you/give your position away in low light.
How about a mag with an internal mechanism which makes a noise when the mag is at half, at the last round, etc. The sounds could be triggered by a simple device that catches on the spring plate ringing a little bell or something. Shit, if I were a mechanical engineer I’d make a million bucks selling those.
WHAT?
>just let your enemy know when you’re empty, so he can pop his head out and shoot you.
M1 garand
The ping is not a feature
Your ping isn’t either
What’s my ping
Why the penis, of course!
Captcha:P4PVHT
Good luck hearing a ping over the cacophony of battle.
Haha, eat my 2nd Garand, suckers.
Always
Be
Carrying 2 Garands
Your mom lets you have two Garands?
only really worth it on big guns and they already have that
Someone isn't counting bullets.
so close
Just use tracer rounds for the final three or four bullets in the mag.
I think they should spend those resources on something that displays your health bar and call sign above your head, but only to allies.
>Why hasn't this concept been implemented yet?
Literally what's the point in small arms? It could certainly be done in a variety of ways and wouldn't cost that much either, but how is it not a gimmick? You can just count your shots too.
In an aircraft or something where you have a high number of rounds but it's entirely fixed, when you're out you're out until RTB, and pilots have a million things going on, keeping track of ammo as well as all other consumables makes total sense and is done. For small arms with 30rnd mags or whatever why bother?
In some scifi future weapon thing where you've got an advanced energy weapon that can hold hundreds of shots or whatever sure gauge maybe makes sense as well as being gameplay but we don't have it because it's just not something anyone cares about.
Better idea. A holographic round counter
Some steel string on a spool in the magazine’s baseplate, with the other end connected to the follower. As the follower goes up, the spool unravels. Degree of rotation of the spool is determined by the follower’s position in the magazine, thus tells you it’s remaining round count. Somehow (by Bluetooth maybe, idk, but there must be a way) relay this information to the optic, where it will display a live round count underneath the reticle. Have Microelectronics in the baseplate to accommodate all this. And a way to automatically turn the feature off when the mag is too far from the optic or in the wrong position e.g. not inserted into the gun.. Sig recently dropped a new optic with 2 zeros where both reticles can be on simultaneously, and they are different colors, so you could have a red reticle and green round counter below that. Make a red dot with a taller window to accommodate the extra info displayed. bam. Round count always right up there, always focused to your eye. Cant do anything about the one in the chamber without adding loads of complexity, but whatever, off by one is good enough.
>you can just count your shots
The point of technology is so you longer have to do stuff. “Why do hard things when you can do easy things (or nothing at all)” same can be applied to literally any other improvement in small arms (and any other domain as well) .. Moving from 308 to SCHV so you can carry more ammo? Just aim better, bro. Moving from irons to red dots? Just train more with irons bro. 10 round integral stripper clips to 30rd magazines? Just reload 3x as often bro, it only takes a second.
Low tech = reliable. Too much to go wrong to really depend on it vs "I'm empty" or "I have a minute and I've shot like 2/3 of this mag."
If you want to know how many rounds you have, use windowed mags. Otherwise, its just not important. You know intuitively if you've fired enough rounds to justify a reload (just round to the nearest 10, in you think you've fired more than 20 then load a fresh one), and if you've fired too many then you're dry and reloading regardless.
Gimmicky crap which adds design complexity and worsens reliability for no upside.
when the number hits zero it makes a ping noise and a japanese soldier in the next foxhole over will banzai charge you.
It's because we dont have a pistol mag that can hold 89 rounds of 10mm
That’s 99 rounds of explosive tipped caseless 10mm
Shit your fricking mouth, it's been like fifteen years since I last seen the movie.
we already unnecessarily computerized cars ill kill myself when i see the same to guns
Because batteries and no one has designed a gun that uses energy from firing to charge the battery like braking charges an EV.
Somebody post the "shut up Vatnik" webm.
>>that post
because when you are doing shit like that you arent focused on the ammo counter number, you are blasting russians, and grabbing for your nades.
op is a nogunz homosexual
It already was since at least 1899.
t. Savage 99 owner
Your average savage owner can't count to five.
dude open the windows, something's burning!
>allowed the fog to infiltrate his home
ngmi
our boy is taping the dryer shut. probably ran out of tape for the window and door seams
>Additional cost
>Additional weight, bulk, breakable parts and batteries
>Dubious reliability and value vs windowed/transparent mags
>Visible light source that would probably be tapped over anyways for light discipline (see colonial marine corps manual from the movie series which even says marines do that in universe)