They may have fricked up the beginning of the invasion based on moronic assumptions but they are still going to hammer out something they can call a victory.
Yes. Western countries aren't sending them enough stuff to turn the tide. Russia is in a weaker position on a global scale overall and NATO is debatably the biggest winner here, but they will beat Ukraine.
Yeah at this point they’re pot committed. They actually have nothing to gain from stopping now since the western world went full moron on them. You all cry about money and casualties like Russia has ever given a shit about those.
They are winning on all fronts though. Kherson offensive got BTFO, LPR territory is nearly fully liberated and more and more of DNR is getting liberated too.
Most of the time they can prevent the Ukrainian air force from flying though which seriously hampers the ability of the Ukrainian forces to go on any serious offensives.
Russia is weak.
The more pertinent question is why the frick has Ukraine not take back a single scrap of land, they have a million people under arms, all of the financial and military backing of the West and they can't even take some fricking villages near Kherson...
>why the frick has Ukraine not take back a single scrap of land, they have a million people under arms,
Ukrops did not have general mobilization until war broke out, we are 4 months into the war. How many months are needed to train sufficiently fresh recruits do you think?
The time they had might be enough for simplified territorial defense units but not for regular soldiers meant for combined arms operations needed for proper offensives.
because putin refuses to admit he fricked up and insists on "shadow mobilization" sending a few thousand men at a time, his battle groups are critically understrength and can't gather enough forces for a serious offensive and they are forced to fight one battle at a time while the Ukrainian army continues to grow every day
at this rate if he doesn't declare a general mobilization he will lose donbass and crimea before the end of the year
That cauldron has closed. A true shit ton of advanced Western weapons have arrived this past week, and more delivered every day. Russia's only chance at this point is to run as fast as they can back across the border. They're about to lose pretty much everything currently on Ukrainian clay. Russia lost hey moment they decided to invade Ukraine, now they have to decide how much more they have to lose before they surrender unconditionally.
I don't think people really appreciate how much is at stake here, if russian forces suffer a decisive defeat, Russia itself might not survive. best case scenario for them is regime change, worst case scenario is balkanization and warlordism. this is becoming more likely every day as the Ukrainian army gets bigger and stronger while the Russian force gets smaller. right now russia can only focus on one specific area while ukraine gains ground everywhere else (kherson, kharkiv, even in the direction of maripol)
Putin can still turn this around if he declares a general mobilization and sends 1 million men to fill all the gaps in the front
>best case scenario for them is regime change,
there is no successor to putin on the table right now. he did too thorough of a job cleaning up potential rivals, that's the big problem that makes even a 'simple' coup virtually impossible without real infighting
They can’t mobilize their entire forces because they’re meant to back up the Rosgvardia.
Putin might have tunnel vision but he’s not arrogant enough to drop his own safety net if the eastern oblasts start rebellion.
define won
political goals failed, 2 week operation turned into war with whole NATO
on economy Russia is winning
they are being backed by world manufacturing centres
We are worlds top exporter of pride parades
They will win way more in winter when Europe starts infighting over remaining gas and oil
Longer this war lasts more they win, simple as
okay I might have missed this, you have to excuse boomer
what volume? trading volume?
I don't think they can afford to wait until winter. their "shadow mobilization" is not even enough to replace losses. most of their units are at 50% strength and can't be rotated out since there are no more reserves. meanwhile the ukranian army has 700k men and can afford to fight in multiple places at once, this is why they're advancing towards maripol, kherson and around kharkov. its really not looking good for russia, they risk losing donbass and crimea, and putin is too proud to mobilize
sir are you OK? have you been reading warmonitor3 too much?
>on economy Russia is winning
post trade volume, inflation, or gdp predictions from russian government, i fricking dare you
post steel, oil, gas, any industry stockpiles and manufacturing output
Russia and allies make everything
we don't make our own steel, fertiliser or anything really in substantial numbers
we shipped everything to Russia, China and India
so you're saying you can't post trade volume, inflation, or gdp predictions from russian government? why wouldn't you do that? i thought russia was winning economically??
I don't think they can afford to wait until winter. their "shadow mobilization" is not even enough to replace losses. most of their units are at 50% strength and can't be rotated out since there are no more reserves. meanwhile the ukranian army has 700k men and can afford to fight in multiple places at once, this is why they're advancing towards maripol, kherson and around kharkov. its really not looking good for russia, they risk losing donbass and crimea, and putin is too proud to mobilize
Wait, you mean if you make it impossible to convert your currency on forex, forcing exporters to convert the excess revenues to ruples, and making it difficult for foriegn investors to sell their stakes out of country artificially increases the currencies value?
no fricking shit you dumbBlack person.
They don't want to admit that their northern Kiev offensive failed spectacularly and took 15,000 casualties including being embarrassed in the air-game and technology game (they were piggy-backing off American/NATO satellites for GPS before the war)
They won when OMON seized Queef and the separatists conquered Dumbass and Lakanda. What you see currently is HATO propaganda since the operation ended peacefully six months ago.
God hates Russians. He even allows their enemies to sink Russian ships that carry holy relics in order to bribe him for his favor.
They may have fricked up the beginning of the invasion based on moronic assumptions but they are still going to hammer out something they can call a victory.
>they are still going to hammer out something they can call a victory
Are we sure about that?
Yes. Western countries aren't sending them enough stuff to turn the tide. Russia is in a weaker position on a global scale overall and NATO is debatably the biggest winner here, but they will beat Ukraine.
Yeah at this point they’re pot committed. They actually have nothing to gain from stopping now since the western world went full moron on them. You all cry about money and casualties like Russia has ever given a shit about those.
Full extinction is the only solution. Hitler was right all along.
>Hitler was right all along
Weird.
Depends how they feel after "liberating" all of Luganda and Donbabwe, which feels guaranteed at this point
They might still push for Odessa
Same reason you made another thread instead of using one of the other 30 Ukraine threads; gross incompetence
Pride.
They cannot accept that they have already lost.
They are winning on all fronts though. Kherson offensive got BTFO, LPR territory is nearly fully liberated and more and more of DNR is getting liberated too.
it was supposed to be a 10 day operations, and we're now coming up on day 130
>liberated
Because they decided to invade without achieving air superiority
Air superiority and total air dominance are two different things. The Russians do have air superiority.
Yeah, like 50km from the border at best.
Most of the time they can prevent the Ukrainian air force from flying though which seriously hampers the ability of the Ukrainian forces to go on any serious offensives.
>Because Russia decided to invade.
The only "because" that matters.
Russia is weak.
The more pertinent question is why the frick has Ukraine not take back a single scrap of land, they have a million people under arms, all of the financial and military backing of the West and they can't even take some fricking villages near Kherson...
WHAT THE FRICK
I want a refund.
Because most of their army is equipped like donbabeweans or worse and most of their heavy equipment is destroyed.
>why the frick has Ukraine not take back a single scrap of land, they have a million people under arms,
Ukrops did not have general mobilization until war broke out, we are 4 months into the war. How many months are needed to train sufficiently fresh recruits do you think?
The time they had might be enough for simplified territorial defense units but not for regular soldiers meant for combined arms operations needed for proper offensives.
Hello John iz Flarida oblast
Russia will win in 2 more weeks
Just need 15,000 more dead vatniks
Because russia has not defined what victory is yet.
Because, Russians.
because putin refuses to admit he fricked up and insists on "shadow mobilization" sending a few thousand men at a time, his battle groups are critically understrength and can't gather enough forces for a serious offensive and they are forced to fight one battle at a time while the Ukrainian army continues to grow every day
at this rate if he doesn't declare a general mobilization he will lose donbass and crimea before the end of the year
They can't into air
That cauldron has closed. A true shit ton of advanced Western weapons have arrived this past week, and more delivered every day. Russia's only chance at this point is to run as fast as they can back across the border. They're about to lose pretty much everything currently on Ukrainian clay. Russia lost hey moment they decided to invade Ukraine, now they have to decide how much more they have to lose before they surrender unconditionally.
I don't think people really appreciate how much is at stake here, if russian forces suffer a decisive defeat, Russia itself might not survive. best case scenario for them is regime change, worst case scenario is balkanization and warlordism. this is becoming more likely every day as the Ukrainian army gets bigger and stronger while the Russian force gets smaller. right now russia can only focus on one specific area while ukraine gains ground everywhere else (kherson, kharkiv, even in the direction of maripol)
Putin can still turn this around if he declares a general mobilization and sends 1 million men to fill all the gaps in the front
>best case scenario for them is regime change,
there is no successor to putin on the table right now. he did too thorough of a job cleaning up potential rivals, that's the big problem that makes even a 'simple' coup virtually impossible without real infighting
They can’t mobilize their entire forces because they’re meant to back up the Rosgvardia.
Putin might have tunnel vision but he’s not arrogant enough to drop his own safety net if the eastern oblasts start rebellion.
define won
political goals failed, 2 week operation turned into war with whole NATO
on economy Russia is winning
they are being backed by world manufacturing centres
We are worlds top exporter of pride parades
They will win way more in winter when Europe starts infighting over remaining gas and oil
Longer this war lasts more they win, simple as
Post volume, you disingenious vodkaBlack personhomosexual 😉
okay I might have missed this, you have to excuse boomer
what volume? trading volume?
sir are you OK? have you been reading warmonitor3 too much?
post steel, oil, gas, any industry stockpiles and manufacturing output
Russia and allies make everything
we don't make our own steel, fertiliser or anything really in substantial numbers
we shipped everything to Russia, China and India
so you're saying you can't post trade volume, inflation, or gdp predictions from russian government? why wouldn't you do that? i thought russia was winning economically??
weird cope
I don't think they can afford to wait until winter. their "shadow mobilization" is not even enough to replace losses. most of their units are at 50% strength and can't be rotated out since there are no more reserves. meanwhile the ukranian army has 700k men and can afford to fight in multiple places at once, this is why they're advancing towards maripol, kherson and around kharkov. its really not looking good for russia, they risk losing donbass and crimea, and putin is too proud to mobilize
>on economy Russia is winning
post trade volume, inflation, or gdp predictions from russian government, i fricking dare you
Wait, you mean if you make it impossible to convert your currency on forex, forcing exporters to convert the excess revenues to ruples, and making it difficult for foriegn investors to sell their stakes out of country artificially increases the currencies value?
no fricking shit you dumbBlack person.
They don't want to admit that their northern Kiev offensive failed spectacularly and took 15,000 casualties including being embarrassed in the air-game and technology game (they were piggy-backing off American/NATO satellites for GPS before the war)
Because when redditor like (you) eat the narrative you want to hear it makes them seem like they losing
They won when OMON seized Queef and the separatists conquered Dumbass and Lakanda. What you see currently is HATO propaganda since the operation ended peacefully six months ago.