>when they all got jabbed
I just received my 4th dose of Pfizer (the bivalent shot) and am still running my ass off throughout the week. Just not on trails because those are for hiking.
Just curious, why would you get the fourth when all the bad stuff about the vaccine has been coming out, on top of the infection rate dying down a ton, on top of Biden saying "the pandemic is over"?
You're talking to someone who is scientifically illiterate and swallows conspiracy theories hook, line, and sinker. You gotta dumb it down a bit. Try saying stuff like "da good juice is gooder now, cuz now it works on the big sick's brother."
2 years ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/jaqJ0p1.jpg
but whatever conspiracy theory source you follow is perfectly legitimate
https://i.imgur.com/l0cLhuD.png
https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/ >During July 2022, unvaccinated people were 3.6 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated with at least a primary series. >During July 2022, unvaccinated people were 3.0 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated with at least a primary series. >During July 2022, unvaccinated people were 2.6 times more likely to get COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated with at least a primary series.
Deaths, hospitalizations, infections. All multitudes higher for unvaccinated people. But (insert conspiracy theory website here) says otherwise so it must be true! Science! Facts!
Conspiracytards are the biggest sheeple around.
>conspiracy theory >conspiracy theory >conspiracy theory >bad faith >bad faith
don't forget
this guy takes like 30 prescription medications and he's insane, probably a troon or a sex pest too.
if he's anything like my 75 year old mom they all share facebook videos fearmongering "new variants" and "the next surge" still. every few weeks one of these videos will make the rounds on social media and suddenly everyone's wearing masks again at the grocery stores in redmond, bellevue, and where all the low iq tech workers reside. the last 3 jabs didn't help but this is the one that will protect them from "the variant"
You're talking to someone who is scientifically illiterate and swallows conspiracy theories hook, line, and sinker. You gotta dumb it down a bit. Try saying stuff like "da good juice is gooder now, cuz now it works on the big sick's brother."
see above. its not like you're scientifically literate yourself. you don't follow medical journals, only uneducated journalism majors' regurgitated opinions of things they never went to school for. i find it hard to believe anyone actually closely following the medical literature took the third or fourth jab. not happening, the medical literature is not favorable to you right now. the first two jabs, sure.
Because it was an omicron-specific vaccine and I had no side effects from any of the shots besides a sore arm
how many times have you and your friends gotten covid?
you ever thought it was strange that people like me who didn't take any of the shots never got covid? or only got a mild head cold for a few days at worst?
>Why has trail running died down?
They all broke their ankles.
People interested in it saw the warning and didn't follow the hobby.
its probably because its a pain in the ass to find a good spot to do it.
- has to be a dayhiking spot near a parking lot
- without too many dayhikers
- without horses
- without mountain bikers
you can run at crowded places but its a pain in the ass kills your tempo constantly, no good. i stopped trailrunning when i moved and no longer had private property worthy of trailrunning on.
>how many times have you and your friends gotten covid?
Zero
>you ever thought it was strange that people like me who didn't take any of the shots never got covid?
The actual data is more useful than your anecdotal evidence. The death rate among unvaccinated people is multitudes higher.
2 years ago
Anonymous
israeli data isn't valid
2 years ago
Anonymous
but whatever conspiracy theory source you follow is perfectly legitimate
2 years ago
Anonymous
you sound like the same kind of homosexual who was cheering along with the news back when the un weapons inspectors were lying to the american public about saddam hussein having weapons of mass destruction. >alex jones
haha speaking of 9/11 he used to kick guests off the air for mentioning the israelites back then.
its super goofy how naive zoomers are. feels like an eternal cycle of moronation having to teach literal children that their media lies to them.
2 years ago
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2 years ago
Anonymous
https://i.imgur.com/jaqJ0p1.jpg
but whatever conspiracy theory source you follow is perfectly legitimate
the anons you're replying to aren't me. >the death rate
you can't tell me with a straight face you can pull useful data from this. just look at the first year's data and how many ventilator deaths are attributed to covid. the amount of fraud that went on is not up for debate now that we have seen how low the actual death rate is in following years since.
just look at how bad VAERS looks for the vaccine. and keep in mind, most doctors estimate that at best only 25% of adverse reactions ever get formally reported.
have you ever put your batch codes into http://howbadismybatch.info/ before?
the first round of vaccines they didn't even know how to dose it yet, so you could have gotten anything from literal saline to 12x a normal dose. might want to know what you actually got in your jab.
what medical journals do you follow, and did you follow them before or only after the 'pandemic'? do you have any sort of background in medical research?
2 years ago
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>the amount of fraud that went on is not up for debate now that we have seen how low the actual death rate is in following years since
The death rate declined (largely) because of the vaccination efforts
2 years ago
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nonsensical, the death rate declined in unvaccinated populations, in areas with low vaccination rates, and in areas with no mask mandates.
>i find it hard to believe anyone actually closely following the medical literature took the third or fourth jab. not happening, the medical literature is not favorable to you right now. the first two jabs, sure
Are there a couple of specific examples for medical journals you can point to?
Probably more this than the vaccines. The vaccines are objectively snake oil, and one was developed by a Twitter furry that's the chairwoman of R&D, but they're more useless than dangerous for the majority of people that get them.
kek, that other guy really needs to read some books on logic and statistical anomalies instead of wanking himself silly to outdoor superathletes all the time
inb4 troonyrunners go "hurr durr you got weak ankles" before pointing to some famous ultra-hiker who's in the 99.999999th percentile of all hikers and could probably hike long-distance trails barefoot without any problems
trail running is hard. when it first came out there was a lot of bullshit about 'how it was actually easier on your body than running on the road'. fat morons bought the meme about 'easier', got tired and frustrated, and left. i still like to do it periodically but for fun, nothing serious. it can be quite exhilarating but running up steep grades is hard no matter how fit you are and running down them can be damn near suicidal.
It’s a hell of a lot easier on my knees than pavement is, and uphill is a lot more fun to look at mountains and nature than it is a city street. Down hill is that hard part. I’ve seen too many people lock out their knees and cause a knee injury, but I’ve seen that on flat land runners too.
yeah mine too. but theres you and then theres 'runners' that fell for the meme but otherwise are basically just new years resolutioners with and outside magazine subscription. if hes asking why not as many people do it anymore, im sticking by my original answer
trail running is hard. when it first came out there was a lot of bullshit about 'how it was actually easier on your body than running on the road'. fat morons bought the meme about 'easier', got tired and frustrated, and left. i still like to do it periodically but for fun, nothing serious. it can be quite exhilarating but running up steep grades is hard no matter how fit you are and running down them can be damn near suicidal.
>running down them can be damn near suicidal.
I hike up and run down. Running up the steep trails that I prefer doesn't even seem possible. Running down a steep gnarly trail feels incredible.
>you're not trusting the science enough >starts reading the science >notice there's a massive disparity between the actual medical literature on the vaccines and what gets reported in the media >start noticing all the medical companies and news outlets are owned by the same people >start noticing none of the people telling you trust the science ever actually... read it
>thread about trail running derails into vaxxxx shit
Can you fricking morons go away already? Can you both stop being filthy evangelists at least in this board?
https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/ >During July 2022, unvaccinated people were 3.6 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated with at least a primary series. >During July 2022, unvaccinated people were 3.0 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated with at least a primary series. >During July 2022, unvaccinated people were 2.6 times more likely to get COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated with at least a primary series.
Deaths, hospitalizations, infections. All multitudes higher for unvaccinated people. But (insert conspiracy theory website here) says otherwise so it must be true! Science! Facts!
Conspiracytards are the biggest sheeple around.
>Post-vaccination cases are individuals who have a positive SARS-Cov-2 molecular test (e.g. PCR) at least 14 days after they have completed their primary vaccination series.
>get vaxxed >count as unvaxxed for 14 days??? >die from vax >damn, lost another unvaxxed to covid...
They use 14 days to allow enough time for the vaccine's protective effects to kick in. Why would they include people who just got the shot a few hours ago?
>Why would they include people who just got the shot a few hours ago?
Because adverse effects can happen from the instant the shot is taken. Also that data isn't from the CDC, it's from the Californian Government.
>The CDC shows [whatever the pharmaceutical companies pay them to]
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They don’t pay them. The CDC does it for free, as the people who work there are using their low paying government jobs as a springboard into the private sector. They don’t want to piss off potential future employers.
The CDC shows an even higher death rate for the unvaccinated (5x more likely)
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
kind of funny that even the most alarmist marketing material
>Conspiracytards are the biggest sheeple around.
its not even up for debate that you're moronic. how long were mrna vaccines sitting on the shelf as an unmarketable drug because they were considered both unethical and widely considered to not even be worth doing animal trials on because of how poor the safety profile is. its not like mrna vaccines are some magical new tech they miraculously discovered, moron. the cure was sitting around waiting for a disease, and even under emergency conditions could not pass animal trials.
why hasn't the jab been fda approved if its safe to take?
the only one that was ever approved was pfizer's comirnaty shot which was NEVER manufactured and has NO RELATION to the ones you took. the one you took ended in animal trials because it was killing too many.
https://dossier.substack.com/p/ghost-shot-pfizer-quietly-admits
if this stuff was safe they'd be marketing it since the 1990's.
>Bourla, who previously tested positive for COVID-19 in mid-August, said he is currently symptom free. He added that he has not yet received the new COVID-19 booster, as he was following guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
the ceo of pfizer won't even take the jabs anymore. you're a nutcase.
have you seen how bad the pfizer trial data looks?
preliminary pfizer trial data, 50,000 patient sample size
side effects are under-reported. vaers forms are 10+ pages, doctors hate filling them out, and a lot of hospitals fire you if you do. see these as absolute minimums.
3.3% of patients had cardiovascular problems
No shit mRNA technology wasn't suddenly developed in 2020 and has existed for a long time. That's what aided the vaccine's rapid development.
Vaccines are never without risks. Everyone has to weigh the risk of possible side effects from immunization against the risk of complications from the virus itself. How many unvaccinated morons who got infected with covid ended up with long-term cardiovascular, neurological and other issues? A ton.
I've received four shots and only had a mildly sore arm that went away the next day. I haven't gotten infected with covid either. Thank you Pfizer and BioNTech for your effective vaccines and Berbeador for your effective KN95 masks!
Trail running is just another part of the California Influence. The West Coast has a very disproportionate influence over the rest of the country with regards to outdoor recreation and gear. It’s why you see people in the Appalachians buying rain jackets for a hike in July. It’s why summer is considered the best season for camping. It’s why alcohol stoves are absent from all outdoor brick and mortar retailers.
In the case of trail running, it exploded in California because that state has an enormous amount of easy trails. People tried it in other places and soon realized that most of the trails on the East Coast (and Midwest, and South, and all of Appalachia) are rock and root strewn disasters that will frick up your knees and ankles. It’s also not a desert, so everything is covered in vegetation.
>Good luck running down this
yeah thats snap city for sure. luckily i live in california so ill take advantage of it. bounding through pine trees with nice clear sightlines and dry packed dirt is fricking excellent
Myocarditis and a 2 year layoff
this
i noticed the herd thin out in the seattle area when they all got jabbed
>when they all got jabbed
I just received my 4th dose of Pfizer (the bivalent shot) and am still running my ass off throughout the week. Just not on trails because those are for hiking.
Just curious, why would you get the fourth when all the bad stuff about the vaccine has been coming out, on top of the infection rate dying down a ton, on top of Biden saying "the pandemic is over"?
Because it was an omicron-specific vaccine and I had no side effects from any of the shots besides a sore arm
You're talking to someone who is scientifically illiterate and swallows conspiracy theories hook, line, and sinker. You gotta dumb it down a bit. Try saying stuff like "da good juice is gooder now, cuz now it works on the big sick's brother."
>conspiracy theory
>conspiracy theory
>conspiracy theory
>bad faith
>bad faith
don't forget
this guy takes like 30 prescription medications and he's insane, probably a troon or a sex pest too.
if he's anything like my 75 year old mom they all share facebook videos fearmongering "new variants" and "the next surge" still. every few weeks one of these videos will make the rounds on social media and suddenly everyone's wearing masks again at the grocery stores in redmond, bellevue, and where all the low iq tech workers reside. the last 3 jabs didn't help but this is the one that will protect them from "the variant"
see above. its not like you're scientifically literate yourself. you don't follow medical journals, only uneducated journalism majors' regurgitated opinions of things they never went to school for. i find it hard to believe anyone actually closely following the medical literature took the third or fourth jab. not happening, the medical literature is not favorable to you right now. the first two jabs, sure.
how many times have you and your friends gotten covid?
you ever thought it was strange that people like me who didn't take any of the shots never got covid? or only got a mild head cold for a few days at worst?
its probably because its a pain in the ass to find a good spot to do it.
- has to be a dayhiking spot near a parking lot
- without too many dayhikers
- without horses
- without mountain bikers
you can run at crowded places but its a pain in the ass kills your tempo constantly, no good. i stopped trailrunning when i moved and no longer had private property worthy of trailrunning on.
I didn't take the shot and I think I'm the only person I know besides my dad (cycling obsessed PrepHoleizen) who never got covid, it's really strange
>how many times have you and your friends gotten covid?
Zero
>you ever thought it was strange that people like me who didn't take any of the shots never got covid?
The actual data is more useful than your anecdotal evidence. The death rate among unvaccinated people is multitudes higher.
israeli data isn't valid
but whatever conspiracy theory source you follow is perfectly legitimate
you sound like the same kind of homosexual who was cheering along with the news back when the un weapons inspectors were lying to the american public about saddam hussein having weapons of mass destruction.
>alex jones
haha speaking of 9/11 he used to kick guests off the air for mentioning the israelites back then.
its super goofy how naive zoomers are. feels like an eternal cycle of moronation having to teach literal children that their media lies to them.
the anons you're replying to aren't me.
>the death rate
you can't tell me with a straight face you can pull useful data from this. just look at the first year's data and how many ventilator deaths are attributed to covid. the amount of fraud that went on is not up for debate now that we have seen how low the actual death rate is in following years since.
just look at how bad VAERS looks for the vaccine. and keep in mind, most doctors estimate that at best only 25% of adverse reactions ever get formally reported.
have you ever put your batch codes into http://howbadismybatch.info/ before?
the first round of vaccines they didn't even know how to dose it yet, so you could have gotten anything from literal saline to 12x a normal dose. might want to know what you actually got in your jab.
what medical journals do you follow, and did you follow them before or only after the 'pandemic'? do you have any sort of background in medical research?
>the amount of fraud that went on is not up for debate now that we have seen how low the actual death rate is in following years since
The death rate declined (largely) because of the vaccination efforts
nonsensical, the death rate declined in unvaccinated populations, in areas with low vaccination rates, and in areas with no mask mandates.
>i find it hard to believe anyone actually closely following the medical literature took the third or fourth jab. not happening, the medical literature is not favorable to you right now. the first two jabs, sure
Are there a couple of specific examples for medical journals you can point to?
This Sumner was pretty hot, here at least. I imagine it'll pick up more in the fall.
Probably more this than the vaccines. The vaccines are objectively snake oil, and one was developed by a Twitter furry that's the chairwoman of R&D, but they're more useless than dangerous for the majority of people that get them.
>Why has trail running died down?
They all broke their ankles.
People interested in it saw the warning and didn't follow the hobby.
so it's even more moronic than crossfit?
This. I can imagine the shelf-life of a trail runner is a few months until he inevitably trips on a rock or root and shatters several bones.
Explain Kilian Jornet then.
>THIS OUTLIER IS THE RULE!
every time
kek, that other guy really needs to read some books on logic and statistical anomalies instead of wanking himself silly to outdoor superathletes all the time
>t. Anklet
You 100% recommend boots instead of trail runners.
tfw rolled my ankle trail running this year
inb4 troonyrunners go "hurr durr you got weak ankles" before pointing to some famous ultra-hiker who's in the 99.999999th percentile of all hikers and could probably hike long-distance trails barefoot without any problems
trail running is hard. when it first came out there was a lot of bullshit about 'how it was actually easier on your body than running on the road'. fat morons bought the meme about 'easier', got tired and frustrated, and left. i still like to do it periodically but for fun, nothing serious. it can be quite exhilarating but running up steep grades is hard no matter how fit you are and running down them can be damn near suicidal.
It’s a hell of a lot easier on my knees than pavement is, and uphill is a lot more fun to look at mountains and nature than it is a city street. Down hill is that hard part. I’ve seen too many people lock out their knees and cause a knee injury, but I’ve seen that on flat land runners too.
yeah mine too. but theres you and then theres 'runners' that fell for the meme but otherwise are basically just new years resolutioners with and outside magazine subscription. if hes asking why not as many people do it anymore, im sticking by my original answer
>Down hill is that hard part.
>running down them can be damn near suicidal.
I hike up and run down. Running up the steep trails that I prefer doesn't even seem possible. Running down a steep gnarly trail feels incredible.
>you're not trusting the science enough
>starts reading the science
>notice there's a massive disparity between the actual medical literature on the vaccines and what gets reported in the media
>start noticing all the medical companies and news outlets are owned by the same people
>start noticing none of the people telling you trust the science ever actually... read it
> schopenhauer on PrepHole
back to
>thread about trail running derails into vaxxxx shit
Can you fricking morons go away already? Can you both stop being filthy evangelists at least in this board?
https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/
>During July 2022, unvaccinated people were 3.6 times more likely to die from COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated with at least a primary series.
>During July 2022, unvaccinated people were 3.0 times more likely to be hospitalized with COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated with at least a primary series.
>During July 2022, unvaccinated people were 2.6 times more likely to get COVID-19 than people who were vaccinated with at least a primary series.
Deaths, hospitalizations, infections. All multitudes higher for unvaccinated people. But (insert conspiracy theory website here) says otherwise so it must be true! Science! Facts!
Conspiracytards are the biggest sheeple around.
>Post-vaccination cases are individuals who have a positive SARS-Cov-2 molecular test (e.g. PCR) at least 14 days after they have completed their primary vaccination series.
>get vaxxed
>count as unvaxxed for 14 days???
>die from vax
>damn, lost another unvaxxed to covid...
They use 14 days to allow enough time for the vaccine's protective effects to kick in. Why would they include people who just got the shot a few hours ago?
>Why would they include people who just got the shot a few hours ago?
Because adverse effects can happen from the instant the shot is taken. Also that data isn't from the CDC, it's from the Californian Government.
The CDC shows an even higher death rate for the unvaccinated (5x more likely)
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-status
>The CDC shows [whatever the pharmaceutical companies pay them to]
They don’t pay them. The CDC does it for free, as the people who work there are using their low paying government jobs as a springboard into the private sector. They don’t want to piss off potential future employers.
I didn’t realize that the cdc was staffed by mods
kind of funny that even the most alarmist marketing material
>Conspiracytards are the biggest sheeple around.
its not even up for debate that you're moronic. how long were mrna vaccines sitting on the shelf as an unmarketable drug because they were considered both unethical and widely considered to not even be worth doing animal trials on because of how poor the safety profile is. its not like mrna vaccines are some magical new tech they miraculously discovered, moron. the cure was sitting around waiting for a disease, and even under emergency conditions could not pass animal trials.
why hasn't the jab been fda approved if its safe to take?
the only one that was ever approved was pfizer's comirnaty shot which was NEVER manufactured and has NO RELATION to the ones you took. the one you took ended in animal trials because it was killing too many.
https://dossier.substack.com/p/ghost-shot-pfizer-quietly-admits
if this stuff was safe they'd be marketing it since the 1990's.
>Bourla, who previously tested positive for COVID-19 in mid-August, said he is currently symptom free. He added that he has not yet received the new COVID-19 booster, as he was following guidelines from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).
the ceo of pfizer won't even take the jabs anymore. you're a nutcase.
have you seen how bad the pfizer trial data looks?
Nice trail running thread
theres currently 3 separate threads on the front page being derailed by what i assume is the same vaxx schizo that needs desperately to go back.
It's baffling, thread as almost 50 replies and they're all off topic. I hate vax/novax shills so much it's unreal. And jannies do frick all.
>trail running died
trail running is just the going down hill again part of the hike
Or flat boring sections
preliminary pfizer trial data, 50,000 patient sample size
side effects are under-reported. vaers forms are 10+ pages, doctors hate filling them out, and a lot of hospitals fire you if you do. see these as absolute minimums.
3.3% of patients had cardiovascular problems
2.2% of lab rat people had problems with their blood
kind of funny that even the most alarmist marketing material can only make it look like a slightly worse cold tbh
7.3% got coof
1.07% of jabbies got facial paralysis
JANNNNNNIEEEEEEES please clean this shit up, perfectly good thread derailed
2.5% have autoimmune problems from the jab
8.5% of them get musculoskeletal issues like arthritis and chronic fatigue
1.2% wind up with neurological issues
19.4% of vaxxies get...... herpes?
source is 5.3.6-postmarketing-experience.pdf from the conspiracy theory blog "pfizer"
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No shit mRNA technology wasn't suddenly developed in 2020 and has existed for a long time. That's what aided the vaccine's rapid development.
Vaccines are never without risks. Everyone has to weigh the risk of possible side effects from immunization against the risk of complications from the virus itself. How many unvaccinated morons who got infected with covid ended up with long-term cardiovascular, neurological and other issues? A ton.
https://newsroom.heart.org/news/myocarditis-risk-significantly-higher-after-covid-19-infection-vs-after-a-covid-19-vaccine
I've received four shots and only had a mildly sore arm that went away the next day. I haven't gotten infected with covid either. Thank you Pfizer and BioNTech for your effective vaccines and Berbeador for your effective KN95 masks!
Trail running is just another part of the California Influence. The West Coast has a very disproportionate influence over the rest of the country with regards to outdoor recreation and gear. It’s why you see people in the Appalachians buying rain jackets for a hike in July. It’s why summer is considered the best season for camping. It’s why alcohol stoves are absent from all outdoor brick and mortar retailers.
In the case of trail running, it exploded in California because that state has an enormous amount of easy trails. People tried it in other places and soon realized that most of the trails on the East Coast (and Midwest, and South, and all of Appalachia) are rock and root strewn disasters that will frick up your knees and ankles. It’s also not a desert, so everything is covered in vegetation.
Good luck running down this.
>Good luck running down this
yeah thats snap city for sure. luckily i live in california so ill take advantage of it. bounding through pine trees with nice clear sightlines and dry packed dirt is fricking excellent