Why everyone say fixed blade bad for self defense? It's better than nothing. Just a backup in case some spook jumps you and tries to hump you.
Why everyone say fixed blade bad for self defense? It's better than nothing.
Why everyone say fixed blade bad for self defense? It's better than nothing. Just a backup in case some spook jumps you and tries to hump you.
Who is saying fized blades are bad for self defense? It's a fricking sharp piece of metal. Any sharp piece of spring steel is a good knife
Reddit
>Reddit
Makes sense. Haven't touched that cesspool in years
From a practical standpoint I think they are good, but from a legal standpoint, you can't carry a fixed blade where I live so the folder in your pocket will do you more service than the fixed blade you left at home.
They're probably manlets who cant fit a fixed blade in their booty shorts or purse
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>"Why everyone say fixed blade bad for self defense?"
I've never heard a single knife person say this and I talk to knife addicts all the time and martial artists somewhat frequently.
Go on Reddit every single post says never use a knife for self defense. Only gun or pepper spray
>Go on Reddit
Thats your first mistake, I've never seen a redditard with muscle. They are either obese or super skinny and malnourished.
Why not all three
>Go on Reddit
No, I don't think I will.
Buncha gays n' women
What I've noticed is that the people who say blades are bad for self defense (particularly on leddit) tend to take the following two lines of reasoning too far:
A. A knife fight (read: a fight between two knife wielding individuals) is a no-win proposition that generally ends in both participants dead or gravely wounded. This can be expanded more generally to the notion that deploying a knife in a self-defense situation introduces the possibility that your knife will be turned against you.
B. A knife is far inferior to a gun as a self-defense implement.
While these points are generally true, people extrapolate a lot of moronic shit from them and make blanket statements about how you should *never* use a knife for self-defense under *any* circumstances, to the extent that it will always do more harm than good. Like, the "loser dies in the streets, winner dies in the ambulance" line is repeated all the time as the slogan for why you shouldn't use a knife in self defense, but that's really only applicable to a knife-fight scenario (and hopefully you're not moronic enough to get into a knife fight in the first place), not so much as a backup weapon.
Similarly, although a gun is *obviously* superior to a knife as a self-defense implement and should always be favored over a knife, that doesn't preclude carrying a knife as a backup, or carrying a knife in situations where carrying a gun isn't feasible/legal. I think as a backup/weapon of last resort, a knife is perfectly sensible, particularly if it's something you already carry for utility. I'd rather have one than not have one. But, in the overwhelming majority of circumstances, you're better served with a gun or disengaging.
i always have guns
and always have knives
on my person
in my vehicle
and in my home
>This can be expanded more generally to the notion that deploying a knife in a self-defense situation introduces the possibility that your knife will be turned against you.
This literally only applies in anon's 1v5 unwinnable situation where you're going to lose no matter what and diffusing the situation before the physical altercation begins is the best action. And in the unwinnable situation you're at the mercy if the attackers and they might kill or maim you anyways even if you are unarmed, friendly and compliant.
Vigorous magdumping would have likely gotten him out of this situation, but there's no guarentee because it's an ambush anyway. Situational awareness is the best weapon, etc. I carry a fixed blade because it's another option that might make more sense if someone is on top of me or my other hand is occupied. It's also a knife and just a good tool. Everyone should carry a knife.
Vigorous magdumping is ~5rnds per assailant, so we're talking 20rnds in the carry mag such as a G19 or similar capacity. You can reload, but 1v5 ambush is about as difficult a situation as you can be in.
>in the overwhelming majority of circumstances, you're better served with a gun or disengaging.
Pretty much this.
Remove yourself from the proximity of the danger, if the danger can't be made safe.
It's a basic Cooperism, and common sense.
perhaps you should stay at reddit moron-kun
They're scared of getting stabbed. A few of them use the same arguments anti-gun people use against carrying firearms, like the attacker grabbing the knife and using it on the person carrying it.
They also say you should be running away if you have the chance and not try to get into close combat with a knife
Running away and getting away is an excellent outcome if available.
My good friend carried a fix-blade knife for self-defense for years.
When he actually tried to use it, it was because he was jumped by 5 dudes. They got his knife away from him. He shits into a bag out a hole in the side of his stomach now.
Carry a gun.
Is that true?
Well it's fricking PrepHole so believe what you want but yes, it's true.
He barely survived and lost several feet of intestine.
Maybe. The key difference is with a knife you have given yourself an edge (literally) in a hand-to-hand situation but you are fundamentally still in a hand-to-hand fight. It's also much harder to kill someone with a knife than most people realize, again as evidenced by the fact that he survived. A gun on the other hand potentially kills with each trigger pull, makes a LOT of noise, creates distance etc etc etc. There is plenty of CCTV footage of ambushes like we're discussing where the victim pulls a gun, gets a couple shots off, and the assailants scatter even if nobody gets hit. There's no way to say it would've gone differently for him if he'd had a gun instead of a knife but he sure carries a gun now.
>It's also much harder to kill someone with a knife than most people realize
No point in killing your attacker with the knife, you want them to stop attacking you for whatever reason to include fear, pain, reduced limb function or incapacity.
If he had a gun they would have shot him with it.
Knives are for surprise attacks, not brandishing, suckerstabbig, if you will. I will suddenly stab balls without mercy in the event of being attacked.
He didn't "brandish" the knife lol, he got punched in the side of the head, pulled his knife, got a couple swings in and was dogpiled. The entire thing was over in about 30 seconds.
For the record this is a guy I know through the MMA community. Much higher level of hand-to-hand experience than your average dumbass off the street, and it still didn't get him much.
If those couple knife swings he got in had been gunshots instead, he'd probably have killed at least one assailant and he sure as shit wouldn't need a colostomy bag.
I'm never sure if threads like this are thirdies or euros who can't get or carry a gun (likely in this case given OP's ESL grammar), underaged kids coping about not being able to get/carry a gun yet, poorgays who can't afford a gun, felons, or people from cuck states which makes them honorary thirdies/euros, or just guys who have never actually been in a real fight and think they're special action heroes.
Carry a gun.
You're not supposed to pull the knife out until you're on the ground and someone is on top of you and thats when you sneak attack. Standing up and slashing like your a duelist in the 1700s is moronic
You've never been in a fight in your life lmao
I'm a purple belt in BJJ and a high school wrestler
you just proved him right
Yes because I am intelligent enough in fighting to know to deescalate or run which is why I shit out of my ass
You shit out of your mouth too if this thread is any indication lol
Sounds like a good way to get your head stomped, bro.
Letting yourself be taken to the ground in a fight against multiple people is fricking suicidal, even if you kill the guy he's still lying on top of you and being on the ground means his buddies can start kicking away without you being able to stab any organ past their knees.
If you're not on the ground you can easily run away.
Go back, kek.
>telling people to carry guns and shoot muggers is le reddit now
This place gets more incoherent and moronic every single day lol.
Post news article if true.
Do you think every act of violence has a news article attached to it? Are you stupid?
>Don't fight 1v5 even if you have a knife advantage
Who could have thought that being in a bad situation had a high probability of serious injury?
>untrained dumbfrick tries to use knife when outnumbered
shocking
Well I assume you kept reading the thread but I'll reiterate this guy likely had more hand-to-hand training and experience than most people posting in this thread about how that wouldn't have happened to them
It was 14 years ago lol, I don't even think it made the paper in my hometown. Also idk if you read much police blotter but usually these types of incidents simply say "man stabbed during fight," it's pretty rare to get much more detail than that unless you live in a state like Florida where reporters have open access to police reports.
I'm not sure why this has rustled jimmies so hard but it's really drawing out the cope brigade lol.
>I'm not sure why this has rustled jimmies so hard but it's really drawing out the cope brigade lol.
Dumb people get riled up about the dumbest things sometimes. Nothing deep to it really.
Self defense meta in 2024 is pepper SPRAY (Not gel, gel sucks for actual incapacitation or pain compliance) and if you cant spray without hitting yourself run away or get your gun out.
You can't get into a knife fight with the expectation that you'll come out of it unharmed and unstabbed. You may "win", but it'll come at a personal physical cost.
>You may "win", but it'll come at a personal physical cost.
Frick off
What the frick is wrong with third worlders
winner had a longer knife lol
He was smart, he stabbed at his opponent's vitals while the other nogger tried to slash him. Unless you have a dedicated cutting blade like a kukri, then always go for a stab, you have much higher chances of scoring a critical stab than a critical slash. The poor nig realized that stabbing was more effective after he was poked and tiried to go for a stab as well, but he realized it too late and went to the Great KFC in the Sky.
>at least one presumably armed cop or security guard just standing around and watching as if nothing happened
what
If you are a security guard for some business and the fight is not at your place of work (public street) you're not going to. If it is your place of business you're going to call for help and not get stabbed by both.
If you're a cop and your job is to literally stop these fights, you're going to call for backup rather than tase one and get stabbed by the other and then also stabbed by the one you tased.
Jumping into the middle of stupidity like a referee is not advisable.
because it is.
knife vs gangbang? shit
knife vs pepper? shit
knife vs knife? shit
knife vs gun? rip
you only have the edge in knife vs unarmed situation, and that will not be the case if there's a single stick nearby
knife vs stick? shit
good luck out there with your badass collection, mate. you can make a lot of salad with it.
It's bad because it's not ideal. Shit reach, won't incapacitated quickly, and can be wrestled out of your control.
Because it's vastly inferior to a firearm. The only reason to carry a knife is because you can't carry a gun.
This is like $4000+ worth of knives, I want to see the gun collection now.
meh, if ya have to use it in self defense, you'd be stupid af to keep it.
Just 3d print a bunch of push-knives.
>can get into any courthouse
>throw away and print more as needed
Just flick your knife out and tell him to skip on down the lane jack
Because guns exist and they outclass knives with blades 10x that long.
Duh, fricking moron.
>Why everyone say fixed blade bad for self defense?
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I carry a fixed blade because any knives I've had with a joint like a switchblade or a butterfly knife inevitably become floppy. You can try to tighten them back up but it's just never as good. Also, I only carry it in case I need to cut something or an animal attacks, so simple is good. The best way to win a fight is to escape, so against a person I'd probably just whip it at eye level as a dustraction and accept having to buy another dinky little 3 inch kbar. Although, the other best way to win a fight is having enough situational awareness to not walk alone down buttfrick alley
>any knives I've had with a joint like a switchblade or a butterfly knife inevitably become floppy. You can try to tighten them back up but it's just never as good.
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Off-hand to compliment your pistol to provide defensive space to use such pistol is a pretty basic setup.
Overall if you have to use a knife, you also need to use your pistol and it is a dangerous situation to be in.