The Tonenke attack from yesterday was supposed to have been "huge" but only used like 36 tanks and 12 BMPs. The Avdiivka assaults used a pretty serious number of vehicles but it was always less than 20 a day per assault over the course of weeks. Meanwhile we had shit like the Battle of Chawinda where India used 260 Centurion MBTs in a single push.
Why doesn't Russia take like 400 Tanks, 600 BMPs and whatever else for a single, extremely concentrated push?
>They don't have enough vehicles
They've lost way more than that in 2023 alone. What's the point of slowly bleeding them out like this? Why didn't they use them for a singular, gigantic charge instead?
logistic. they cannot transport that many tanks and in the meantime keep the pressure on the front lines.
Not to mention a big concentration of tanks would be a giant red flag for any intelligence guys, and pappa himars would be right there to wreck havoc
>logistic
Logistics are easier when your troops don't live long enough to need food, and your armor doesn't;t last long enough to need reloaded.
They should have worked this out by now.
Last I saw, mobiks were only getting like two mags.
Landmines.
has taken my sight
Big build ups like that are instantly targeted by swarms of drones, artillery, air strikes, ect.
It's why all they do is bum rush Ukie positions and hope their own artillery did enough damage.
Because it's gonna be spotted and then HIMARS gonna be like
>oWo wuts dis
before nuzzling them with tungsten rain
>What they are doing is working fine.
Joke's on you NafoTroon, Russian meat cheaper than western ammo! israeli Banderas lose with every kill they make!
Piggers need to do better with their watermarks, I've seen these same images called "a failed Ukrainian counter offensive" everywhere and normies believing it, I almost believed it too because I'm not an autist that knows every obscure Ukrainian/Russian unit emblem.
>clearly visible ДOHБAC battalion insignia
>not Ukrainian
Anyone not putting 2 and 2 together with this can't be helped no matter what. No use in wasting time trying to think how to make this even more obvious to moronic turd worlders just barely intelligent enough to power on their phone and go on the Internet.
Russian armored assault
Since when have they been mobilizing Kennedys?
Are there any hatches below those tanks? Or did those ziggers just drown in a metal coffin?
Oh man. That must suck
Can't put together a force that's stronger than the blocking detachment. HATO gays will never understand.
unironically think this is an underrated reason.
russia is sending their minorities and duped foreign workers into the grinder with no real training or oversight. it becomes a risk if that force becomes too large and decides to turn around instead of impaling themselves.
Russia was never sending JUST its minorities. The VDV and RU Navy alone is historically mostly ethnic Russians.
One day Americans will not project American socio-cultural and political issues and complexes onto the rest of the world but today is not that day.
Because they can't. They don't have the logistics, the support, or the coordination to do a proper combined arms assault like western countries.
So they send these units into moronic suicide frontal assaults out of WW1 to keep the pressure and pretend they're doing something, because they can't do anything else.
The only think they've achieved is making Ukraine unable to focus their forces into a south attack to the Azov's sea.
Technically it's a phyrric stalemate, hence all the shilling trying to stop the West aid. Because if the West ramps up their deliveries, Russia would have no answer to that.
Forty years ago they were supposed to send entire tank armies against NATO units in Germany, on the first day of ww3...
There are generals in the Russian army that were active during those days. And they are watching this.
Now is half tank regiment plus all the morons they can corral around and makes to the news as the biggest assault since the Kiev push... This is the best they can do now, after a year and half of "ramping up weapons industry and being on a war economy".
Europe is supposed to be terrified about this.
We owe an apology to all the Arab armies for all these years of making fun of them. At the end they were West peer opponents after all.
arab armies have never held a candle to "the west"
the only thing arabs are peers in is using civilians as a shield for terrorism on an occupying force that has its hands tied. actually no, i reckon the west would btfo them on that as well (not that it will ever happen, thirdies have no morals)
They are as peer to the west as Russia is, thats what the other anon said
I'd like to see Russia trying to pull the Suez canal crossing operation at the same competence level as Egypt did back in 73.
And a holler to the the Iraqi republican guard divisions, that after months of air seal clubbing they still managed to keep some for of cohesion and ran some defensive operations against the coalition even if everything was already lost.
Two examples than Russia won't be able to pull
Wasn't Sayid from Lost former republican guard? Damn I remember he was competent, is a misfortune that sort of men isn't fighting for our side. Of course most of them always end up fleeing to the West, I suspect some of the people giving hell to the russians right now used to live there.
I thought he was Iranian? Haven’t seen that show in forever. Just remember that Korean dude b***h slapping his wife, constantly worrying about the dog, and calling bullshit on fatty staying fat after season 1
>Europe is supposed to be terrified about this.
Europe has been demilitarizing for the last 30 years. West is full of decadent people who don’t care and east is shitting their pants (baltics) or going on a yuge spending spree (poland), hoping ziggers get bogged down for a decade and fervently praying biden gets reelected.
Yea, zigger army is a total joke compared to US but so is everybody else’s outside of maybe frogs and bongs, neither of which would go balls in if some latvia they can’t even find on the map would get little green men’d and US didn’t tard wrangle NATO into doing anything.
>Europe has been demilitarizing for the last 30 years.
Europe has the military to BTFO Russia many times over, but we've been fooled by Russian Stronk bullshit, there's no political will, and people do not like militarism out of PTSD from WW2
Is it really world war 2? I think people are more knowledgeable about everything now. Dying screaming on the frontlines is something only a complete chump wants.
Russians wouldn't have an opportunity to do a whole lot of killing without setting up their gypsy camp anchored to a town or some other hardpoint, and any coalition force that could be expected to deploy to Ukraine wouldn't have much of an issue with leveling said camp because NATO armies strike deeper than Ukraine's artillery army.
It wouldn't be dissimilar from punching out Iraqis in 2003.
>Europe has the military to BTFO Russia many times over
>there's no political will
That’s pretty much my argument. It is irrelevant how much stronger yurop is than ziggeria if all that hardware won’t be used (because muh dangers, muh nooks, muh can’t send professional soldiers into combat because what if they get hurt, muh east is far away and isn’t real europe anyway, muh special responsibility towards russia, muh blah blah).
Either US will lean on those spineless wienersuckers or ziggers will have free reign to do whatever they want
>US will lean on those spineless wienersuckers
They better start with themselves.
>czechia
>marked slovakia
czechislovak nationstate.
we shall rise again
t. free Czechoslovak federalist
People expected the Russia from Modern Warfare 2, not from Red Alert 2 without the wonder-weapons.
Could you speak English, please?
>east is shitting their pants (baltics)
last I looked they were rapidly increasing spending on equipment and training while openly talking there is going to be war in the coming years
if ukraine could gut them so hard the baltics, with much better defensive positions compared to them are going to do a repeat of the special military disaster
>Forty years ago they were supposed to send entire tank armies against NATO units in Germany, on the first day of ww3...
There are generals in the Russian army that were active during those days. And they are watching this.
You understand the actual plan was to do that while nuking everything in sight in support of that and if it the attack is stopped just nuke everything. The whole USSR plan for a large war involved basically using nukes like they're conventional weapons, the RU never really saw it as a WMD it was just another conventional weapon. They still "officially" see it that way.
Russia/USSR can't leech the blood out of a nuclear wasteland, which is why a land empire goes empiring
it was NATO that didn't have any other option than to use nukes to stop the orc rush, until Air/Land Battle came in
The entire concept of tactical nukes was to cause minimal damage to infrastructure. Both sides went hard on the idea of throwing nukes at isolated formations through the 50s and 60s. The US made some crazy cool shit like nuclear A-A missiles, backpack nukes, nuclear artillery, and even nuclear landmines. The mid-20th century game plan was to drop the sun on any troop concentration larger than a fireteam.
no
as revealed by ex-Warpact generals at a NATO conference, the Soviet general plan was to tac nuke NATO on the assumption that NATO would not escalate beyond a battlefield exchange, so to speak
both sides were shocked to find that NATO had concluded that any exchange would culminate in a strategic exchange, so they would have replied to Soviet tac nukes with strategic targeting, and then we would all have died
>nuclear A-A missiles
the reason for them and for nuclear depth charges is that they were the only weapons guaranteed to destroy bombers and submarines at low levels of accuracy
same reasoning behind Russian nuclear anti-carrier missiles
that is why NATO leaned hard into precision guided munitions; solving the accuracy problem allowed them to achieve similar effects purely conventionally
The depth charges, yes. The value and limited quantity of subs made a nuclear depth charge worth the investment, but the Genie Rocket was also built to destroy bomber formations quickly with minimal aircraft. Taking out 6 bombers at once with one munition was an extremely important capability when you have 200 with fighter escorts coming to carpet-nuke your country.
>the Genie Rocket was also built to destroy bomber formations quickly with minimal aircraft
Again, as a function of accuracy. Nuclear air-to-air missiles stopped being necessary when conventionally guided missiles became more reliably accurate.
>to tac nuke NATO on the assumption that NATO would not escalate
>both sides were shocked to find that NATO had concluded that any exchange would culminate in a strategic exchange
and yet, 30+ years later, ziggers still think "muh escalation" and "you'll do nothing if Kyiv is glassed"
Just try it, c**ts.
>they got utterly BTFO so we must try even MORE meatwaves
Based OP
Organization like that is hard. It's why that attack wasn't supported with artillery, smoke obscuration, EW, aviation, helicopter support. It's hard as frick to do that and their officer corps is heavily degraded.
>Why doesn't Russia try bigger assaults
Unfathomably dark sentence.
With the rate Russia has lost most of its mechanized potential since the start of the war, this is really going to turn into the WW1 shenanigans of losing 80% of your 100.000 men in the last failed push, but next week the same push is surely going to work this time because now we have 200.000 men to throw in.
>saturation by high-precision artillery
>extremely concentrated push
They learned it in a hard way.
Very nice composite
holy frick, what is this trail of tears bullshit? how can russian command look at this and show up to work the next day?
how do russian people with access to the internet see this and not question this situation?
they don't see it
this was almost two years ago
>doesn't matter, we have more at home
>how do russian people with access to the internet see this and not question this situation?
They question it and if they question it in public the FSB shows up a rapes them so they learned not to do it.
>holy frick, what is this trail of tears bullshit? how can russian command look at this and show up to work the next day?
It's easy, they imagine all the money they can embezzle off the casualties' payment and pensions and the stolen and diverted parts from the replacement vehicles they'll send because of all that destruction. Then they remember they gotta always kick it back up the chain to Putin so it's not as good but the vodka and morphine makes up for it.
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>Hence the threat to surrender a few days ago to wapo
May I see it?
Test
>Why doesn't Russia take like 400 Tanks, 600 BMPs and whatever else for a single, extremely concentrated push?
that's all they have left right now after the grand putin offensive backed by tucker and Marjorie at least ones that can move and shoot
f7uck your zigger posting is fricking pathetic
>Hence the threat to surrender a few days ago to wapo
never happened
>they are fricked without US funding.
not even slightly but the USA is the ammo source for himars which has become a key part of their strategy, its true and amazing that Americans in Georgia, now the traitor state elected marjourie taylor geen who humiliated the USA on the world stage by stabbing Ukraine in the back bit the EU is ramped up to send enough gear to finish what is left of the Russian military off. That's enough of your /chug/ concern posting
Mobiks are expensive as frick, they cost mobilization system and logistics bandwidth (extremely limited, finite in terms of entire war from start to finish). Those tanks and other AFVs, while shit, are even more expensive - they require more attention from logistics, production can account for less than a month of medium-intensity fighting, and the stockpiles are so limited russian brigades/regiments have been getting demechanized since late 2022.
Nothing's free for the russian, this is them fighting at maximum capacity, in a do-or-die situation, and failing to make a difference in the grand scheme of things as their time is running out.
Funnily enough, their artillery tapped our first and now it can't act as an enabler for the ground forces unless the air force is heavily engaged. I wouldn't expect VKS to display more resilience than their artillery force, so that'll probably end this year too and all those mobiks will be left with 0 (zero) enablers.
>Mobiks are expensive as frick
An illiterate tard from east of the urals is expensive? Anon they give them a shitty AK and two magazines then expect them to die in a week tops.
Yes. Just moving the guy around and keeping him fed enough to walk is expensive.
And bringing a mtlb from the junkya... cold storage, rebuild it, install the cope cage/box so he can sit on it is even more expensive.
Someone posted a meal from the Russian chow hall sometime ago and it was a single carrot and potato.
>he thinks men, actual men, are getting fed a carrot and potato a day or some shit
Frick this place is full of children.
not men, Russians
>moronic post
>anime picture (out of context, not a new filename)
>Rich Investor
EVERY TIME.
anime website
>he thinks the russian soldiers are well fed
Kek
You're an actual child who has never gone hungry.
There's a literal joke about that in russia:
Two generals, one from a NATO country and one from russia trying to dick measure which army is better and go into small details. The russian general tries to show off:
- Our industry developed new ammo, it can punch through a meter of armored steel;
- Ha, that's so yesterday, our ammo can punch through 1,3 meters of armored steel;
- Well, our snipers can hit a 5 kopeck coin from a kilometer away!
- I don't want to upset you, but with our most modern sights our snipers can hit a 5 cent coin from 1.2 kilometers away;
- And we have... we have... in our army a soldier receives whooping 2,300 kilocalories a day! What will you say to that?
- In fact, the standard diet of a NATO soldier guarantees 4,700 kilocalories per day;
- You're lying, NATO bastard! Your soldier cannot eat two bags of rutabaga in a day!!!
2,300 kcal is the recommended diet for someone who's a healthy weight around 5'5 or so doing regular tasks. It's not enough for a soldier, at all, but it's not starvation tier either. A fricking carrot and potato for a meal does not even come close to 2,300 kcal, even if you're eating such a meal several times a day. You'd know this if you weren't clinically obese.
You do realize that I've just translated an actual joke? It's a joke, my autistic friend.
I'm well aware, moron.
The actual russian MRE on paper is about 3,300 kcal, although it's a bit fake because they use fatback lard to artificially inflate the numbers.
Failing to comprehend humor is a tell tell sign of being on the autistic spectrum.
It is also a sure fire way of detecting ESL's.
I'm going with fricking moron on this one.
He wasn't making an argument, he was just telling a classic cold war era joke.
>amateurs talk tactics
>professionals talk logistics
>and then there's , who's just a fricking moron
Mh... Let me guess... Russian total death collapse in 2 weeks?
>and all those mobiks will be left with 0 (zero) enablers
might finally be time for them to go to rehab then
A combination of attrition (they simply don't have as much stuff to throw anymore), artillery (any large concentrations of vehicles near the front are quickly spotted and shelled), and poor command and control (poorly trained mobiks with no means of communication can't coordinate in large numbers).
>unless they actively start running out, which doesn’t seem to be happening
Unless you count the increasing proportion of their assaults being carried out with refurbished vehicles from the stockpile- and then ditching armour altogether for golf carts.
I believe someone in another thread mentioned that their tank production is picking up a lot more.
Russians have been saying it's been picking up since the 2010s
Christ they lost another "small" column in Vuhledar yesterday as well.
>Vuhledar
This village must cause shudder to ziggoids.
What are you talking about? Nothing has happened there.
You're starting to sound like a radical - only western nazis would say anything has happened at Vuhledar.
In fact, it probably doesn't even exist.
Entirely our fault, sorry.
You linked to a generic article that says abosutely nothing about
>Hence the threat to surrender a few days ago to wapo
So go back to sticking your tongue up Marjorie taylor greens snatch like a good vatBlack person and remember, Georgia will be called the traitor state for hundreds of years
nta but you're an illiterate brown creature. Even if you're a headline slop-slurping brownie a
>threat to surrender
is not 'we're going to have to narrow the front by retreating and strike strategic targets in Russia if we don't get more support'.
>mobiks are free
They cant do shit without equipment.
The equipment is shit and it gets worse exponentially. We already saw 1:13 loss ratio at Avdiivka, so we are close to the point when taking another village would require a half of the army. Considering F-16 are guaranteed, this ratio will also apply to defensive operations. Losing Bakhmut AND 200 000 soldiers to Ukraine this year becomes a real outcome.
I'm so happy I'm not a citizen of this shithole and my country values the lives of its soldiers. God bless America!
>God bless America!
God Bless America, the EU, Canada, the UK, NATO, Japan,South Korea, Australia, France, Italy, Finland, Sweden, the Netherlands, Greece, Norway, Denmark, Ireland, Belgium, Spain, Portugal, Germany, Poland, Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Romania, Bulgaria, Czechia, Croatia, and all the other free peoples
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_military_aid_to_Ukraine_during_the_Russo-Ukrainian_War
and above all the Ukrainians, which much of the world holds in awe for their stand against an invader. They are going to win.
Oh yeah Poland, Albania, Argentina, Austria,Azerbaijan,Iceland,Jordan,Luxembourg,MonteBlack,New Zealand,North Macedonia,Pakistan,Slovakia and Turkey. Frick Putin.
The APC/IFV situation is different to artillery and MBT losses which Russia has managed to eat into resreves to keep going. They don;t seem to be able to for APCs, they had appro 13700 in service pre war about 13300 have been destroyed but they are down to unarmoured artillery tractors and now Chinese atvs when they should on paper have a 19000 strong APC reserve. The Russia military is on its last legs and so is their economy.
Holy false flag you mean. It's very obvious
This goes back to something that's been discussed a lot about equipment, namely, that it never "runs out", but it can reach levels of "running out" that are so dire that the equipment barely does anything.
We're seeing the cracks. Giving mobiks electric Chinkmobiles for them to try to storm the front with, instead of having them driven in via APC is one sign. Obviously there's the T-55 obr. 2024 thing as well.
Tank refurb can't keep up with these losses, so we're going to see more and more sparsity of tanks at the front until there's just select groups of them, and ones held in reserve to try to counter attack any pushes.
.... The extent to which we armchair generals have been acclimatised to this war is a bit frightening. You have to remember the areas these assaults take place in are tiny.
36 MBTs would be a fair size force if they were western units
yeah, so imagine a whole battalion of tanks being blown up in an attempt to take, like, fricking Bexhill or some other such no-name whosville in the middle of nowhere
>fricking Bexhill
We're gonna stop that Batter Pudding Hurler for good this time.
>i thought
when you say this, everyone knows you're about to make the most bad faith comment of the day
noty an expert but any big concentration would be spotted inmediately kilometers away from were it is supossed to go
>Why doesn't Russia take like 400 Tanks, 600 BMPs and whatever else for a single, extremely concentrated push?
DPICMs and tungsten rain.
Ukraine has the tools to obliterate massed formations. This forces Russia to attack in smaller formations that can be spread out while still fitting within the bottlenecks of mine-free roads etc.
This. Remember the miles long convoy to Kyiv? M30A1 would've caused a highway of death 2.0.
SUCH a shame we'll never see that again in this war.
russia really did think ukraine would fold in 3 days didn't they, otherwise why so overconfident with sending forward the supply train?
They needed to send the supply train forward to supply their forward units. Their forward units were supposed to go a lot further into the country so they were on a timetable to set off. The problem was the forward units didn't get as far as planned but the supply units had their orders and started to follow up, leading to a massive pile up that started getting hit by Ukrianian forces.
Remember that general got killed by a sniper because he went to the front of the column to try and get it moving?
Bruh, you do realize that their media had automated articles come out three days into the whole shitfest about how they won and how they'll finally solve the ukie question
I mean, they sent the riot Police to the capital alongside the army. We know of this, because their antio-riot vehicles were btfo
Imagine what could have been
Sincerely, thank you anon
>cassette shell go brrrr
Dear heavens, they're using mixtapes. Warcrime.
The russians started using incendiaries first
get it
>cluster munition
>look inside
>it's all tapes with Kaceta - SadSvit
frick that one azovstal vid with kaceta playing was kino
What the frick, this is staged, surely
those tunes would blow your mind, man
Oh, Dragonforce, I remember that epic meem
Their last album had some 40k songs in it. They've not been good since Maximum Overload.
THAT SHIT FIRE homie!!!
Would make a sick time capsule unironically.
Imagine someone digging it up and calling the EOD and when they diffuse it, they just find all your stuff from 10 years ago.
>they diffuse it
In Europe and America they don't bother, they put a newer explosive on top of it and blow it up. Sometimes they do it in place, where the UXO is found, sometimes they transfer it first.
In Ukraine they diffuse if they can. UXO FABs get diffused. Landmines, many of the soviet ones, have specific anti-tamper Black persony that makes diffusing them a pain.
>anon's dope mix '95
>Hair metal classics
>Radio rips with half an ad still in them
Take me back lads
Incendiary munition
>threat to surrender
What Zelensky said was "if we don't keep getting supplied we'll have to start retreating", which is true. But they'll keep getting supplied. They're just in a supply drought due to your FSB plants in western governments. So good job, well done. Unfortunately for you, MAGA Mike is a dumb homosexual like the rest of his party and is now backed into a corner from which only the Democrats can bail him out, so American will be coming soon.
*American aid
Besides the fact that both sides have a bunch of drones in the air watching for any major buildup, I suspect that the guys who "plan" these assaults are probably forced to scrounge together whatever they can own their own.
>massing tanks when you don't have the air superiority
HOW DO I TRIF- tbh tbh:
DESU
>Buy 10 $DESU
>Put $tbh in the option field
DESU
>monke is content in waiting for west to get bored and cut off support
Well, he'd better have a lot of patience then
The entire reason most European countries have a military is to kill Russians. If you think they are going to "get bored" of the only existential threat they have in the region being stuck in a quagmire, you are a fool.
They got bored in the 1990s and 2000s when France and Germany along with several other smaller Western European countries were demilitarizing because "History has ended". Similar happened in a lesser extent with the US in the 1990s.
HOLY FRICK STOP POSTING YOU DUMBASS. THAT WAS NOT WHAT THE PEACE DIVIDEND WAS.
Sorry Anon, but History has ended. Billions must live off pensions and spend their earnings in high tech consumer goods made through outsourcing and vote in elections.
You have to be 18 to post here.
You know how much NATO MREs depend on candy bars to inflate their numbers?
what's the bong version of "Bumfrick, Ohio"?
Candy bars actually have sugar and work
Because post-Soviet times there was hope Muscovites could grow up and join the modern world where open cooperative trade was most beneficial to all parties involved, rather than military posturing.
Unfortunately for human civilization, Muscovites are eastern subhumans who cannot conceive of equal cooperative relationships between parties, but only machismo posturing and alpha/beta moron dynamics.
2008 Georgia should've been a wake up call this ideal outcome would never happen but Georgia was too irrelevant to matter, 2014 Crimea was a big sign but enough mitigating factors to give Muscovites the benefit of the doubt; but the current "SMO" and it's atrocious handling shows the true colors of Muscovy.
You're fricking dumb, not even autistic, just fricking stupid.
>Mobiks are literally free.
Every dead mobik is a dead worker and a dead taxpayer. You're either moronic, coping or (most likely) both.
>unless they actively start running out, which doesn’t seem to be happening
*Caughs in chinese golf carts*
>but not “can’t build tanks 25 years out of date” shit
No, it's only "can't build any tanks at a truly relevant rate anymore" shit.
>As long as some progress is made in this bizarro attrition warfare
At the current rate of progress, Ukraine will litrally extermiante Russias male population in its entirety before the Russian Army makes it to Zapo and Kharkiv.
>west to get bored and cut off support
The west getting bored means indefinite continuation of support.
*every dead mobik is a dead pensioner or unemployed and a dead net drain on the supply of vodka
You understand the average Russian is a retired 60 to 70 year old woman and the average mobik is over 35 years old right? And the biggest employeer in Russia in the last 35 years is the Russian state?
You seem to have made the common and very American mistake of thinking Russia is a functioning country with a Western-like society with a well managed liberal economy with an abundance of private property and people who contribute with taxes.
>Our economy is shit, so burning down its future is free!
>We're a shithole country anyway, so us doing things that will turn us into a worse shithole means we're winning!
You're unironically spouting literal moron "logic" and pretending that it's working.
What part of that post did you read that sounds like a defense of Russia and anything Russia has ever done
The part where you consistently make all your great "wisdom" sound like it's a good thing for Russia and that it's working. And you're doing it so consisntetly that I refuse to consider that you may just be moronic and tone-deaf by this point, givne how often you've been called out on this exact bullshit.
The post I made had only (1) reply to it and from a different anon than you, what the frick are you even talking about
>every dead mobik is a dead pensioner
Most of them are still in prime working years... you understand for this 'kill them to cheat them out of their claim' concept to work you have to actually drain them of taxable income BEFORE they die, otherwise you're still at a net loss?
Also pocciya's population age was fricked before the war, so unless they start sending babushkas and granddads this issue is going to get even worse lmao
russia is a petro state, they don't need taxable income from mobiks
Considering the speed those plants have been blowing up, I'd say "is" becoming quickly "was"
35 to 48 years old is prime working years? I mean, by public employment work standards maybe
Also where did I mention any concept like that in that post?
>Every dead mobik is a dead worker and a dead taxpayer.
In resource extraction countries the only roads needed are from the mine to the port and from the palace to the airport.
Russia's wealth doesn't come from its mobiks.
This is why Africa is so poor, by the way.
>we didn’t want our soldiers and military vehicles
buy/sell 1000 at a time is too much of a pain
>The Tonenke attack from yesterday was supposed to have been "huge"
sorry i've been distracted from the war for a bit, what happened, did they make any gains?
Russkies launched an attack with 36 tanks and 12 BMPs. 12 tanks and 8 BMPs got promptly blown to pieces and the rest retreated.
And they did it in snow in April.
Ukies can just obliterate big attacks. Small attacks are a problem, because Ukies won’t want to use expensive weapons to stop just such a small force.
>400 Tanks, 600 BMPs
>recreate Kyiv traffic jam
>when ukies have tungsten rain
DO IT.
>april fools investor gag happens
>every single person actually using it on the main board has shit opinions
>you don't even need to glance at their post anymore
wow, thanks mods!
Using them for a single charge would require saving them for some time,which would allow the ukies to rest,build defenses and prepare their own assault.
Seriously, it makes me question how brain rotted Trump actually is because from everything I've seen he could genuinely cinch the election if he just started hardline supporting Ukraine
What are the fricking moron vatBlack person fifth columnist right wingers gonna do, vote Dem? All fourteen of them?
Trump is compromised by Putin. He will not support Ukraine under any circumstances
maybe telling the enemy that you have no ammo and would be totally unable to stop a really big meatwave was bait
I'm unironically starting to think the Ukies may have been exaggerating the direness of their situation a bit, not just to help convince westerners to give more aid, but to make the Russians overconfident
It could be both. An army always needs more of everything forever, and I'd easily believe that they're running a lot closer to dry than they would like, buuuuut IIRC the Czech shell initiative has been picking up steam and the Ukranians seem to be doing better with opsec recently.
You've gotta admit it was a hell of an April Fools joke.
Because they get spotted when they're concentrated like that and blown up with guided missiles.
slowly trading ground for a better attrition ratio is how you win wars of attrition
>suriyakmaps
who the frick is this xitter tard and why should I trust him
They wasted a dozen of tanks (in that video alone, mind you) to take another pig pen. Just 50 more of those pens and half a dosen of Bakhmuts and Avdiivkas and they may finally claim the entire Donbass by 2027.
they'll unironically run out of tanks before then. Satellite image counting by CovertCabal gives Russia 2.5 years of tanks
>and they may finally claim the entire Donbass by 2027
What what your telling me is that Russia is going to winning?
>Shareblue
That's not even a thing anymore, why are you morons still stuck in 2016?
Why doesn't Ukraine use the financial aid to buy bradleys?
>Shareblue
holy shit, they're deploying Metodichka Obr. 2014
1000 vehicle assault kek it will be a feast for raams
suriyakmaps is pure zigger propaganda one of the least accurate "OSINT map poster" if not THE least. I have failed to see him not posting blatant zigger propaganda even once.
Also
>Ukrainian forces began withdrawal and headed to the east
Yes, the Ukrainians are cowardly withdrawing... eastward. LMAO.
The way they handled it was to cover every possible approach with minefields and after they were breached send in as many men and units as possible to contain the breanch and then start a multiple month long offensive on another front consisting of never ending almost-suicidal assaults on highly prepared Ukrainian positions to keep the counter-offensive from restarting and the initiative being taken back by the Ukrainians.
It worked at the cost of tens and tens of thousands of casualties in both men, vehicles and artillery with the only victory being Adivvka being taken
>threat to surrender a few days ago
He said if they run out of ammo they will have to start retreating. And it was probably a lie for the Russians
>imply you are running out of ammo
>enemy starts doing high concentration attacks just days later
>enemy gets massacred at faster rates
Is the pic being spammed have a video attached to it because those Russian vehicles look kinda intact. Also there is no mass corpses of the usual dismounts
>Is the pic being spammed have a video attached to it
Yes
>Also there is no mass corpses of the usual dismounts
Video 2
More dead subhumans
https://files.catbox.moe/be4mfd.MP4
Wow they're literally not sending their best huh
Is that a motherfricking cope tent. Have the Russians straight up started bolting tents to their APCs
it's a gazebo, anon
protects from sun and rain
doesn't protect from drones, DPICM or shrapnel ~~*
>protects from sun and rain
Unless it is angered.
> The year is 2025
> mobiks have begun building duplex condos with pools atop BMPs
> They still get killed by the dozens
jej
>it's a gazebo, anon
is it hostile?
>That transition to writing made from corpses
Fricking kek
Well, guess we got our answer.
The War will not get better. The big attacks are done, the first pick of everything is used up.
Bro you are so far behind the times its not funny
Democrats arent even using online image management firms anymore, its all about independant social media 'influencers' now
Chinks see this war as testing ground for Taiwan.
Well hopefully one that makes them realize it's ridiculous and stupid. Thought frankly the power vaccuum caused by the world's two largest navies sinking each other in an afternoon would be hilarious. In response to the actual thread topic instead of my inane political rambling, What's we've learned is reconnaissance has gotten so good you just cant amass enough force fast enough to make any meaningful breakthrough before it just gets vaporized by artillery. New warfare meta is everyone blowing their loads on missiles
warfare has become so lethal that concentrating forces bigger than a platoon is just not worth it anymore.
a 100 years from now, it's only going to get worse.
Maybe Heinlein was right after all,only way to wage war would be to utilize super-soldiers/mechs spaced apart 1 mile from each other loaded to the gills with micro-nukes, while the ski
>warfare has become so lethal that concentrating forces bigger than a platoon is just not worth it anymore.
>a 100 years from now, it's only going to get worse.
Wasn't one the reason mechs were used in Mobile Suit Gundam by the Zeons was because they just trumped most things the Federation threw at them so they had to develop their own?
I always hear people against mechs/power armor say "just shoot a missile at it from a distance" or "just hit it with anti-armor". But wouldn't a mech/power armor have systems built-in to deal with those counters from the start?
You cannot armor a mech as well as you can a tank, nor can you fit as much active protection. Anything you can do to a mech that'll make it viable against weapons just apply better to a system that's more compact, has lower ground pressure, and doesn't have a bunch of exposed joints
>Exposed joints
You mean tracks?
>Anything you can do to a mech that'll make it viable against weapons just apply better to a system that's more compact, has lower ground pressure, and doesn't have a bunch of exposed joints
>Anything you can do to a tank that'll make it viable against weapons just apply better to a pillbox that's more compact, has lower ground pressure, and doesn't have a bunch of exposed tracks
corrected
a Gundam fricking FLIES through space you idiot
>a Gundam fricking FLIES through space you idiot
To be fair that's when one is space. What about when it's on the ground? Specifically on Earth.
Mobility is useful
Mechs don't have higher mobility than tanks, except in very specific situations
If we're talking about things that fly then obviously jets are the thing that's better than mechs, why waste weight and screw up aerodynamics with things like arms and legs when you could be using it for more speed or more payload?
Tracks are indeed a weak point of tanks. Now imagine them being further up off the ground, impossible to repair in place, and resulting in more than just a mobility kill (good luck shooting when you only have one leg to stand on)
>I always hear people against mechs/power armor say "just shoot a missile at it from a distance" or "just hit it with anti-armor"
those people are imagining tanks on legs, when they should be imagining BATTLESHIPS on legs. (not to mention being unable to give IC/OOC answers.) Gundams in-universe are the most powerful, well-protected and agile things in existence, not to mention literally psychic-powered in most universes (or as good as). They're equipped with battleship-grade weapons, and can evade most attacks.
even analogously, Gundams are like WW2 carrier aviation. saying "just shoot them with an antitank gun lmao" is moronic.
Gundam is moronic. A dedicated plane or tank with the same armour, weapons and systems as a Gundam would not only perform better than a Gundam but would also be cheaper.
>the reason mechs were used in Mobile Suit Gundam
As SF goes, it was more than that.
1) AMBAC, turning around without using fuel, limbed lever being better than inertial wheel.
2) they used micronuclear reactor and MS was the smallest they had
3) that reactor spew magical particle that frick up unshielded electronic in a convenient way
>has lower ground pressure,
Is a moronic arguments you repeat like a sheep.
Track were not created to lower ground pressure, they were created to grab/get grip on terrain regardless of shapes.
You WANT ground pressure, without it you slip around in mud, you want to reach the solid ground underneath the mud.
A wheel cannot get over an obstacle bigger than its radius.
A track allow it as long as the track itself is conveyed above by cheaper wheels.
A mech would have such clearance it would make it effortless.
>bunch of exposed joints
Only valid in a maintenance or cost-efficiency way.
I'd rather have a spider-tank lose one leg and keep going, than be mobility killed by losing a track.
There's methods to armor main joints and targeting them on purpose would require a LOT of effort. Sure, go ahead and create a ATGM that dive to slip under a spider-tank skirt. Go create a mine that keep the same explosive force despite it's target body being >2m above the ground.
The legs can be used/support for spaced armor that prevent the penetrating rod from killing everyone inside.
If the next argument is "muh height make bigger target" I'll point out that with modern sensors height is irrelevant and that having legs would make "hulldown" maneuver potentially easier.
Remain the question of speed, now that's a problem, only solved if you fight by killing enemies so fast speed is no longer important but then the main weapon would likely be indirect artillery with homing shells.
anon, did you get candlejacked? kek
it's 2024 for Christ's s
can't believe someine heres still rrmembers fkn candlejack, that shit is older tha
Neither side can conduct massed assaults because ISR is too good and precision strikes go up the request chain in minutes instead of hours now. Unironically WW1 style infiltration assaults are the best anyone can do since neither side has the sort of long range strike capability the US has.
I don't get this map explain it to me in Fortnite terms
that didn't achieve anything last time, do you have any reason to expect different results now?
>get btfo on the frontlines
>attack civilian infrastructure
Yeah, that worked so well the last 5 times zister! 2 more weeks!
lmao literally incapable of coming up with something on their own...
AWAITING LAUNCH
ukraine doesn't have shills on stanby for whenever something bad happens though.
you do.
>u-ukraine will freeze
>actually freeze themselves instead because their infrastructure is so shit ukraine doesn't even have to bomb it
lol, lmao.
>Russia bombs infrastructure
>temperatures jump to 25
God really hates Russia
>24/7
It's not out fault there is daily videos of Russia being embarrassed.
>N-NO YOU'RE THE SHILLS
you can stop raiding any time, you don't belong here lmao, do you think i bother raiding your shithole husk of a board?
its not our fault that we detected a pattern that whenever something bad happens to russia you guys instantly jump on here to create a ruckus.
your little monkey brain is like "hurr durr what if copy and say same" when it just doesn't work the other way around.
also once again showing you have 0 creativity, you hear something and don't understand the context, then copy it like a mindless drone lmao.
>pro-ukie spam
Substantiate your claims
SBU constantly rearranges the quark-gluon-lepton combinations to make reality look pro-ukrainian. Your retina is spammed by 400 million pro-ukrainian photons each second.
>I'm Kyrillo Budanov, but call me Dr. Manhattan
>NO STOP POSTING VISUAL EVIDENCE OF US LOSING, WE DONT HAVE VERY MUCH OF THAT HAPPENING ON YOUR SIDE
not my problem, go whine about it like the little mongol b***h you are.
Suri-ack maps is just rybar 2.0 he makes up new russian held positions all the the time to the point where ziggers get killed thinking following his maps by straight up walking into ukranian lines thinking its their own.
>ziggers get killed thinking following his maps by straight up walking into ukranian lines thinking its their own
We need to come up with creative ways to help make this happen much, much more often.
Is there an example of this? I want to see the before and aftermath lmao
There's no before and after because we know it happens because of Telegram and social media posts from RU troops and military bloggers criticizing Rybar and other propagandists over it. We know it happened at least once last month.
it's very risky
did everyone forgot the mile long convoys at the battle of kiev 2 years ago? they completely dropped the ball... it was insane. if they couldnt even achieve a convoy with military trucks, how the frick are they meant to do with with tanks?
by 1 mile, i meant 40 fricking miles...
'Hog pilots and fans hate you for bringing that memory back
>what could have been
imagine if Ukraine had ATACMS then
>Ctrl+F "(Dead)"
>51 results
Thank you, janitor.
General Arma-geddin-out tried that already. Get a new script, Vanya.
Because if you can see there is one fricking road.
maybe after the next mogilization
This. The russian bear should wake up and a wave of tens of thousands of glorious mobilised should crash upon the hohols.
t. Ivan Ivanovich from Moskow oblast
Seriously though pls do it ziggers. Cant get enough of this snuff kino. More exploding BMPs please
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Putin is a fricking moron. Had he spent his money pushing Psy Ops and making Crimea and the other pro Russian territories more successful places to live by comparison to their Ukrainian neighbors, bribing politicians, and demoralizing the Ukies he could have peaceably taken the country province by province over a couple decades by forcing resolutions and backing his shills with the threat of his military. But instead he got bored and decided to show how tough Russia is. Now he is crippling their military and economy, destroyed his international diplomacy, and has doomed his mission to failure. He could have won by just handing out gibs and bribes. Instead he chose bullets and is now getting embarrassed.
Russian military seems to have already been crippled, as in past tense crippled. It's an artillery army with an artillery component that's incapable of supporting a push on a small industrial suburb without copious airforce assistance. And it's not like their airforce can keep providing that assistance forever, and even then it's completely dysfunctional and requires a siege-style setpiece to kind-of, sort-of maybe work over the course of about 6 months.
It's pretty amazing to watch such a large military crumble over the course of 2 years, and that's with full backing of their state too. I have a feeling their way of war will die with their armed forces because of the sheer scale of this fricking disaster. The amount of materiel russian army burned through while failing to achieve any objectives is just mind-boggling.
>have already been
>past tense
You seem to be moronic, so I'll explain. It was crippled in the past (late 2022 to be specific), but we can feel the impact in the present because they are failing to achieve their goals in an effective manner. Thus "have already been crippled".
So, present perfect.
Exactly, but the point was that the actual loss of capabilities occured in the past.
That's how present perfect works, yes, no need to say specific time, unless it's not present.
Yeah it’s just over. They’re well positioned to keep what they have in a North Korea style defensive posture if they’re willing to but the amount of resources required to keep it compared to what they actually gained is a massive loss. The long term impacts are even worse. It is flat out fricking astounding that none of these tards seem to comprehend that in that world the bribe is mightier than the sword. These aren’t fricking Afghans that are culturally ingrained to reject all things not covered in the Qoran.
>Bribe politicians
>Wage media war against your enemies and discredit them
>Build some bridges and roads
>Create bullshit jobs programs inside gained territories
>Eat them piece by piece instead of choking on the whole thing
Fricking kremlin monkeys couldn’t even follow their own playbook
>They’re well positioned to keep what they have in a North Korea style defensive posture
Not really, in Korea UN forces (and specifically US forces) provided most of the combat power, in Ukraine all combat power is provided by the AFU. Once russian airforce deteriorates to the point even a repeat of Avdiivka will be impossible there's nothing to stop Ukrainians from waging this war forever, likely at a slightly lower intensity. This means continued strikes against russian infrastructure and continued attrition inflicted via drones and long-range fires.
Arguably, Western Europe (not the USA, because the USA doesn't provide that much financial backing) could force Ukrainians to stand down, but that'd only create an unresolved border dispute that'd eventually be addressed by the AFU, likely as soon as their country gets its finances in order. Basically a repeat of Israel-Egypt conflicts. Note that by the time a ceasefore becomes a realistic option, the cost of supporting Ukraine should be considerably more manageable (lower intensity, no more large-scale russian offensive operations). So, in theory, the conflict could be fueled by a smaller number of countries. I'd argue that even now France, Eastern/Central Europe and Scandinavia have enough clout and determination to facilitate a total Ukrainian victory.
From a russian perspective, the situation is thoroughly fricked and can't be unfricked without nukes. And since both China and the US will likely take action against russia if they use nukes, this war is basically over, although it hasn't played out completely yet.
He's old. He didn't want to miss his big chance to "fix" history. In the end he fricked it up.
Yeah, when Zelensky was elected (as a Russian appeasement candidate, too); if someone said in five years Finland and Sweden would be in NATO, while Russia would be begging North Korea and Iran for materiel, and renegging on military deals to India, I would've called them delusional.
February 2022 has got to be the biggest geopolitical blunder of this century so far.
The self-delusion from vranyo must be the only thing keeping that "culture" from mass suicide (inb4 wounded mobik sudoku).
They aren't interested in advancing too far.
Mobilisation was a disaster and they aren't going to force general populace into the army/factories against their will because it will start activating neurons within the apathetic populace who cares more about faux stability.
All they want is a deal that keeps NATO away from Kyiv and lets them annex (or pretend-annex) some new lands as a post hoc justification for the war which might salvage or even boost Putin's falling ratings.
That's it. This whole fricking ordeal is about saving the face and avoiding any major temperature changes in the conditioning pot they are boiling russian population in.
>They aren't interested in advancing too far.
Uh huh. So why do they keep throwing away entire companies in these constant costly attacks?
>All they want is a deal that keeps NATO away from Kyiv
If anyone in Moscow thinks that's still on the table, they're delusional.
>If anyone in Moscow thinks that's still on the table, they're delusional.
NATO is America, and America is clearly compromised. If the republicans end up winning the presidency it is all but guaranteed that NATO will stay the frick away from Ukraine. EU is another thing, but while singular countries may have the political will to bring Ukraine in, I doubt that's the case for the limp-wristed beurocrats in EU institutions
I'm sure it'll become true eventually if you just repeat that cope often enough
dude they can't even get a bill to pass in order to shit away some cold-war-era hand-me-downs. if couple of reps senators can hold the government hostage over it, how do you expect a Trump presidency to do anything at all for Ukraine. They will be lucky if they won't be outright forced to start peace talks
same thing for Europe. it is a coin toss whether or not Hungary or someone else stops the next aid package dead in its tracks. Not to mention no one even knows what an attack on an EU country would entail. there really is no such thing as a European defence system
Damn man I didn't even know Hungary had the power to stop Britain from sending missiles
Can't wait for those republican senators to hold aid packages hostage when Trump is president, too
I already pointed out that singular countries are willing to do more on their own. I was arguing for why it is super questionable wether or not there is a chance for Ukraine to become part of NATO or the EU. the former is pretty much a resounding no, given how clearly compromised the USA government has proven itself to be. the latter I feel is very questionable as well. again, single countries initiatives to help Ukraine does not an EU membership (whatever that entails in terms of security) make
>Can't wait for those republican senators to hold aid packages hostage when Trump is president, too
they won't, simply because there will not be any further talk of aid packages
you keep calling them traitors but as far as I know representatives owe loyalty to their voters first and formost, and the rupublican electorate mostly does not give a shit about Ukraine
>republicans
Do still have enough cold war fossils to drown out the traitors.
lol
lmao
The EU institutions (not individual countries) already delivered more aid to Ukraine than the US, by about 30%.
LMAO. Delusional.
The moment you made the equivalence of NATO=AMERICA is when you lost me. Nato is not all of America, and even then, you have to wonder how much of the support of Europe goes throught NATO and which doesn't.
Albeit we can agree both Europe and America share the same interest in keeping Russia in check, with Ukraine as their main attack dog, as well Armament industries interested in profiting and investing in this situation. And that's as far as I will go, Sorry fellas, but this is /k/, so this is as far I will touch Geopolitics.
Have a fricking guess you moron. Say hi to your discord friends
Bro, /k/‘s patch thread is just reddit nowadays. You can stop with the gaslighting, lmao
>/k/‘s patch thread is just reddit
Who gives a frick?
>oh no a random thread online upsets me, its basically le reddit
Frick off back then c**t
NTA but you would know homosexual
Why don’t you go back there and stay, since you know so much about it
NTA I just got to this thread and I can already tell you own an embroidery machine and are mad that people think it is cringe. Own your hobbies, King
post single mech capable of 70 km/h across rough terrain or power unit capable of powering said mech
What's with the mechgays ITT? Isn't your anime show on right now?
>samehomosexual
You dont know what samegayging is, its okay
>organic and definitely not samegayging
newbie
>geolocation of the 5 destroyed vehicles in few kilometers deep into Russian territory
so they sent 15 vehicles, some got destroyed, Russians advanced 3 kilometers and this is somehow a victory for gay nazis?
lel
/pol/Black folk from /chug/ spend more time on reddit than anyone else.
The funniest part of that is that the poo thinks he's epically trolling with shitty lancet videos
This year's may parade is gonna be entirely chinese golf carts
I like to think they have that single tank from last year locked up in some shed with a sticky note saying "Do NOT touch, for parades only"
I'm speculating they're specifically not sending them to the front such that they'll parade them in may along with captured 40+year old wonder waffles for chest thumping points, THEN they'll push them to the front.
sitting at the top of ukraine
watchin the meat waves roll away
>36 tanks and 12 BMPs
So a combined-arms battalion. Wow it's nothing. Russia is in the awkward spot where they can't do traditional combined arms, can't do futuristic deep-penetrating+persistent drone swarms, and are forced to rely on (very small military speaking) waves.
No wonder a small and poorly armed nation like Ukraine is stalemating them.
>small and poorly armed
They have more men in the field than Russia do and they're backed to the hilt by the entirety of NATO.
>backed to the hilt!1
More like halfhearted halfassed donations on a sporadic schedule.
>They have more men in the field than Russia do
X
>and they're backed to the hilt by the entirety of NATO.
How many NATO troops in Ukraine right now? Becuase, you know, backed to the hilt would mean NATO sending in those.
Am I moronic seriously? Why don't they shoot the fricking drones. You'd only need a WW2 tier ack-ack to knock them down.
Russia seemingly either never built many and/or had already scrapped most of its Tunguskas and ZSU-23-4 Shilkas.
And the Pantsir S-1 is supposed to combine the SPAAGs & S-10 Strelas/Osa into an uber-omni SHORAD panacea, but I guess there just aren't enough and Russia's FCS software simply isn't good enough.
>webm
lost hard
The bigger your force the bigger the overhead. Having several battalions do a simultaneous and coordinated assault effectively means you need top tier logistics communication and training. So not something the Russians are able to do.
Many reasons
>NATO recon would alert the Ukrainians a week before anything bigger than a brigade assembles
>Any large losses would result in political problems
>Much of the hardware lost would be lost for good due to Russia's poor industry
>Lack of air support would make a large offensive very difficult
They lost the ability to command units larger than a battalion, training and coordination is just not there especially with the current attrition rate. Between 2022 and 2023 they tried to switch from battalion tactical groups to fighting with regiments but it didn't improve anything
They took Avdiivka with a multi-divisional attack you fool.
Maybe on paper, in reality it was meat wave after meat wave of snow Black folk getting sent to hide in the farthest cleared rubble and basements before another multi-ton guided bomb was dropped on Ukie defenses that then became the next hidey hole for aforementioned meat wave survivors and their future "reinforcements".
well, it's still a multi-divisional meatwave...
jokes aside, it was probably a more competent attack than most since they used a few elite formations as well (most of the Central Military District iirc) not just mobiks
Dude, it was anemic as frick, it took them like 2 or 3 days to push through about 800 meters of Eastern European suburban houses and by all accounts they only succeeded because of fog and shell hunger on the Ukie side.
The whole assault kinda failed forward until Ukies retreated - the only difference between what happened there and the catastrophic pushes directed towards Stepove was that in Avdiivka Ukrainians didn't have the resources to isolate and clear out the "assault" elements, so these russian degenerates managed to continue securing terrain at a glacial pace until Ukies decided it was time to frick off.
so instead of a density of 100 mobiks per square mile, it's now 20 mobiks per square mile?
Logistics and command structure. Something that Puccia is known to suck absolute donkey dick at. They can barely muster up 20 vehicles to drive forwards without running over each other and falling into holes/off of bridges. How do you expect them to do mare than what they already did?
>donkey dick
>mare
>muster
>falling into holes
>running over each other
...anon? something you want to tell us?
Yeah you have to slam a company+ into an objective and then move THROUGH it with another undamaged company before you can even think of actually pursuing, defeating, encircling anybody. These fricked up attacks where you see 10+ tanks get killed instantly are a huge deal because those 10 tanks or whatever were the initial force that were supposed to get a decent way to, or through, the objective. If they get killed instantly the entire plan gets thrown off.
I think that's why we see later vehicles seemingly suicide themselves into mines or whatever. Their C2 is so bad they can't tell that all of their first echelon just got annihilated so the rest just go as if they had made it through.
>Their C2 is so bad
Anon, they just lie. That's all there is to it.
>What's that, boss? Oh, t-the assault I j-just ordered? Heh, of course it managed to capture the position it was supposed to, do you think I'm incompetent or something? Yes, sure, send in the next one based on that assumption.
And this problem only magnifies itself the further up the chain it goes because each moron keeps adding on to the lie himself. Funnily enough, this isn't the (total) deathblow to successful planning that you'd think it'd be since officers know about this trend and thus correct for it ... to some extent. And of course still lie themselves.
It's also partly why the initial invasion failed so fricking badly.
>What's that, Mr. Putin, sir? Are we ready to invade Ukraine? Sure are! How long would it take us? Ah, no more than two weeks, my subordinates assure me. We have it all planned out in fact.
>Logistics and command structure.
personally i love how Russians are importing million tonnes of high grade metals from NATO by shaving israelitekrainian pidors and battle medics on the side..
English?
i am sorry but i dont speack iszraeli Jenglish..
Maybe you should go dump dead bodies into a river or something instead of hanging around hyperjewmegaisraelite imageboards
Stroke or ESL?
>Why doesn't Russia take like 400 Tanks, 600 BMPs and whatever else for a single, extremely concentrated push
the exact moment you have 20 tanks + ammo depot close together ukraine is going to call in a himras strike.
Fairly convinced by this point that the mandate is to keep troops moving west to give the impression that there's still momentum. Alternatively they genuinely operate on a 1000 monkeys 1000 typewriters model which would be lovecraftian.