Why doesnt Putin just bomb the shit out of kYiV at this point? Doesnt he have long range missiles?

Why doesn’t Putin just bomb the shit out of kYiV at this point? Doesn’t he have long range missiles? Just turn the entire city into dust. What the fuck is he waiting for? If America were fighting the Ukes, this city would be completely annihilated within the first week. Putin doesn’t know how to do a war properly. He should just fake an assassination attempt on himself to drum up some “just cause” or something. Fucking pussy.

  1. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He has no missiles and no planes he can afford to lose. Most of them probably don't even fly anyway.
    Puccia is a third world joke. China is the new big bad guy now. Accept this fact and move on.

  2. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Why doesn’t Putin just bomb the shit out of kYiV at this point?
    he cant
    >Doesn’t he have long range missiles?
    look at their ballistic missile performance at the start of the war
    they hit random fields in a haphazard attempt at DEAD and couldnt even knock an airfield out of existence
    >If America were fighting the Ukes, this city would be completely annihilated within the first week.
    if the US was involved, their airpower would be largely targeted at enemy CnC and major supply arteries in attempt to decapitate enemy command and prevent any timely re-deployment of units allowing ground forces to defeat the enemy in detail

  3. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >can't do anything but kill civilians
    And russhits wonder why everyone hates them and want them wipe off the face of the earth

  4. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Contrary to retard belief, area bombing is a massively ineffective waste of time. The data gathered by the bombing raids of the very man who embodies area bombing, Bomber Harris, conclusively showed that it was nearly meaningless.
    That the only bombing which had significant effect on the outcome of WWII, was targeted at war critical industry, transport infrastructure, oil production, etc.
    Obviously nuclear weapons are another story, but indiscriminately bombing civilians is;
    Morally indefensible.
    Political suicide on the world stage.
    Not especially effective.
    Hardens resistance rather than quells it.
    And, very expensive.

    Flattening Kyiv would trigger an escalation only somewhat shy of setting off a nuclear weapon, and it would cost a lot more than just dropping a nuke.

    • 2 weeks ago
      All Fields

      people forget that the atomic bombs in japan individually killed LESS people than the firebombing of tokyo did.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        If you go by the official casualty figures, this is actually false, 100k in Tokyo, 70k in Hiroshima, 40k in Nagasaki. All of these numbers are low, but the in terms of percentage of population, both atomic bombs killed about 30% of the population of those cities, Tokyo's figure is closer to 8-10%.

        And the two nuclear weapons were about the crudest possible devices, Little Boy's yield was about 15 kt. Any modern nuclear weapon would deal an order of magnitude more damage.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Fewer. It killed fewer people, not less people.

        Less is a degree adverbs for a single entity, like less water, or less rain, or less lumber.

        Fewer is a degree adverb for multiple entities, like fewer trees, or fewer brain cells, or fewer people

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Okay Stannis

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          Brain cells are all connected so they are single entity. Less brain cells.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          fuck ya mudda

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >conclusively showed that it was nearly meaningless
      Yes and no. Directly, yes: "fumble bombing" was a gibe given by one mutt to it (not like they were any better).
      BUT ... indirectly, it worked, because enormous resources were devoted to the air defence of Germany. Imagine if most of the Luftwaffe's fighters and its 88s, plus the AD personnel, were freed up to fight the Russians. That would've had a giant impact on the eastern front.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        >That would've had a giant impact on the eastern front.
        Not really no. The germans lacked the range to do strategic damage and Luftwaffe already enjoyed air supremacy for most of the war on EF. To the point it was seen more of a training ground for noobs. It was primarily a tactical and at best, operational level air force.

        Only way Luftwaffe would have had a giant impact on EF if by 1940s they would have had strategic bomber fleets capable of reaching whole of america and bombing strategic objectives like factories, shipyards, depots etc. Starving the vatnik supply so they lacked the material to supply their lemmings spam waves.

        Frankly if RL were a strategic game, america would need a nerf badly for how fucking OP it is from sheer placement alone. Only way anybody outside can even defeat it is by hollowing it from inside out with extremism and population replacement.

        • 2 weeks ago
          Anonymous

          That guy choose the embody the Yes meme

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >The data gathered by the bombing raids of the very man who embodies area bombing, Bomber Harris, conclusively showed that it was nearly meaningless.

      The problem here is that you can't really measure that in hard data. Sure you can count popped rivets and charred corpses, but you can't really put those data into a bigger picture of the conflict, other than they lost X% efficiency in something and at our expense of Y bombers and crews, which almost never favors the attacker because for example they restarted production after 3 weeks while we lost 600 airmen which seems like a bad deal.

      Still, it worked well enough to shit up the production of every weapon that was to be aimed at Allies, meaning cheaper and more defective methods had to be used.
      It worked well enough to shit up logistics and troop movements, meaning General Negerstein now has a brigade less to shuffle around in face pressing Russians because said brigade either lost two days waiting for tracks to be fixed or is out of supplies because Harris dunked a bomb on the trainyard their ammo train was about to pass through, then Typhoons or local partizans came and finished the job.
      Also trucks needed to unload said train couldn't arrive in sufficient numbers because the ball bearings factory has a big hole in it. Now this factory has to be rebuilt, at nations expense, rather than building another, maybe even elsewhere and now workers need to be shuffled around.
      Said workers work less efficiently because they spent the night in fear of bombs exploding just outside. Because the outside is now a wasteland and he can't get medicines for his ill malnourished kids, Jurgen lost more of his usual faith in The Party and when it comes to showing his dedication to Das Volk he immediately surrenders after being thrown into Volksturm as soon as Americans arrive.
      Etc etc, it causes shitty little things all over the country undermining your war effort.

  5. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >Aussie vatnik is at it again
    Don't you have something better to do than spending 10 hours on this board every day?

  6. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And how will turning the city to dust = Victory?

    You think blowing up a city means everyone instantly surrenders and you win forever and ever amen?

  7. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Putin is a CIA plant sent to make Russia collapse.

  8. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They're all deep under the sea.

  9. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Kyiv is sacred to Russians, it's like asking a hardcore Zionist to bomb Jerusalem.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      >it's like asking a hardcore Zionist to bomb Jerusalem.
      they'd gladly do that, because modern Israel wasn't founded by the messiah, so it's not canon and ought to be demolished

  10. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    any answer that isn't "because they can't", is wrong

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      moron, Mariupol was surrounded and bombed by aircraft without air defence countermeasures.

  11. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because wasting long range missiles on civilian targets is dumb as fuck and UA air defense is fully operational, so any air raid would take massive losses Russia can't afford. Any more questions?

  12. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Didn't they carpet bomb Syria or was that just for posterity?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Syria wasn't right next door and didn't have a 1st world army with NATO weaponry. Russians are bullies - they won't want to risk a response that could mean their cities being bombed in reprisal, thus shattering the Kremlin's carefully crafted image. Plus they'd be shit scared of that meaning NATO taking an active role in Ukraine

  13. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Because he can't

  14. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    IQ 89 thread.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Struggling to follow it, are you?

  15. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    And what will this achieve? I dont get how killing a bunch of civillians is going to help win the war or advance any millitary objective.
    All the millitary targets in Kyiv will be harderned because I am sure it has occured to the Ukrainians after 7 months to not have exposed C4I.
    What you are suggesting is that Russia step up wasting resources on a V1/V2 style terror bombing campaign because they dont have any better options as they are being defeated on the battlefield.
    If anything this could help Ukraine finish off the war quicker because it could provoke a response from the West to send F16s /ATACMS Leopards ect.

  16. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Why does Lukashenko, the largest dictator, not simply eat the other dictators?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      It's part of his greater plan.

  17. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He’s not a big enough guy.

  18. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >bomb the ancient capital of russia's ancestors
    it could backfire

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      it worked against Napoleon though

  19. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    They are low on missiles. Missile use has dropped off hard and they are using older ones.

    They might be low on bombs too, who knows. But trying to bomb Kyiv would result in losing many aircraft they Russia cannot afford to replace. It would also stiffen Ukrainian resolve most likely based on other efforts and you wouldn't even be hitting the industry where their weapons are coming from.

  20. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    What aircraft would conduct this mission? We know Russia doesn’t have the missiles left to do it (ffs they’re using anti ship weapons from the 60s). So that leaves aircraft. What aircraft would they use? They’ve got a decent number of older strategic bombers, but these are painfully slow and not at all stealth. They would be absolutely slaughtered by AA. They CLAIM to have 55 tu95s. Assuming they’re all operational (they’re not) that bombing run would be a one way suicide mission. Tu-22? They claim 60 something. These are faster and a full on wave of them might see survivors return but the bomb load isn’t what you’d need for a massive carpet bombing campaign and they’d end up shot down rather quickly. Finally the tu-160. The only aircraft in the Russian arsenal really remotely suited to strategic bombing in the modern age and even that is a really generous statement. The Russians claim 17 operational airframes. I think it’s reasonable to say the real number is lower. The aircraft is fast and flies high, but is not stealthy. They could indeed use them to probably successfully do some area bombing. However there WOULD be losses and replacements are basically artisanal projects that may not even be functional. Meaning that Pootycakes can in fact launch strategic bombing runs against Kyiv. However there wouldn’t ever be more than a couple of them because attrition would rapidly totally wipe out his strategic bomber force and it just wouldn’t do anything. Then Russia would have even fewer delivery platforms for nuclear weapons and we all know that ‘muh nooks’ is literally the only card they have left to play. So. Why doesn’t Pooty ‘flatten’ Kyiv? He would, at best be able to blow up a few neighborhoods before attrition fist fucked him, and in the process? He would lose one branch of his nuclear triad.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Nice effortpost. They should still run their suicide bombing mission. It would be like the last punch Russia ever gave before it's partitioned. Vatniks could tell tales about it forever.

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Thanks. Though tbh there’s also the fact that the glowies would see prep for that a mile away and Ukraine could get concentrated anti air assets into position. Which would be beautiful because if it played out just right? Not a single airframe would return home. The wreckage falling on the countryside would do more damage to Ukraine than the planes would to Kyiv. They’d call it the aluminum hail.

  21. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    coz he cant lmao
    they reportedly assigned 500 aircraft to the theater, which would mean 1200 sorties per day, yet they only fly about 200 sorties per day and only 10% of that are combat missions

    russia just cant into airfoce

  22. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >If America were fighting the Ukes, this city would be completely annihilated within the first week.
    If Shills are stating this: does this mean Rus considers nuking Kyiv?
    Or this is simply a way of downplaying recent strikes on civilian infrastructure?

  23. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    >kYiV
    why do you spergs get so upset about how someone spells the name of city, which has multiple different spellings depending on the language?

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      Because if I was in a thread and someone was talking about "Londres" to an Englishman I'd think he was mentally deficient.

    • 2 weeks ago
      Anonymous

      because I hate the antichrist
      take your keev and shove it up your ass right next to the pockyston and the offwannaston

      • 2 weeks ago
        Anonymous

        Why do you hate the antichrist? What have-has he done to you?

  24. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    Cope Vatnik

  25. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He can only do it with nooks, carpet bombing with dumb bombs won't work as they can't get a plane that far into Ukraine. Nuking Kiev will get Moscow nuked in return.

  26. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    1. Ukraine claims its S300 and other air defense intercept some of Russia's long range missile strikes
    2. USA/UK/EU would supply Ukraine with more air defence if missile strikes seemed indiscriminate
    3. Russia probably wants to save its missiles for useful targets like power stations. Even if they do miss sometimes that seems their plan so far

  27. 2 weeks ago
    Anonymous

    He's trying to take over their infrastructure not blow it all up.

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