why would that matter?
if you can see an enemy boat you should shoot it regardless right?
if you sink the boat you will probably kill alot if not all of the crew.
so why do they need camo?
Not all jets are equipped to sink a battleship, so they would instead resort to taking potshots at the crew on board. If you can't see the crew, you don't know where to potshot. Of course camo does not save 100% of soldiers in such a situation, but if it can reduce casualties by even just 15% or so that is already worth it.
so the reason ALL naval crew members have to have specific water themed camo from head to toe is because on the off chance a jet is in range that has weapons that could kill crew that happen to be on deck but not any weapons that can do damage to the ship itself...
wouldn't it be easier to have 1 uniform for everyone?
why waste money and time making different designs and patterns?
or make it a solid color
from the height of a plane that can see there are crew on deck its going to see them regardless of camo pattern and its not going to be able to pick out the specific details of the camo, why not just make it 1 flat color?
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Anonymous
Maybe, I don't know, I'm just pulling things out of my ass here.
10 months ago
Anonymous
clearly
10 months ago
Anonymous
wouldn't it be easier to have 1 uniform for everyone?
why waste money and time making different designs and patterns?
or make it a solid color
from the height of a plane that can see there are crew on deck its going to see them regardless of camo pattern and its not going to be able to pick out the specific details of the camo, why not just make it 1 flat color?
Way back when, it was a solid color. We since discovered giving it multiple colors tends to not only look cooler but also provide a function.
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It's not as cool. Imagine you are building a comprehensive Imperial guard army for 40k with a massive budget, so you can build a ground army, space navy, regular navy and airforce, with vehicles and troops for each. Would you really use the same color-scheme for all of them?
Blue was a winter weight pattern and uncomfortable in most of the climates we operate in. Also blended in with the deck plates like perfectly so if there was a fire or whatever and you became a casualty, good chance the corpsman or dct investigator wouldn't see you. Also wasn't in any way fire resistant and couldn't be made into a floatation device which are the only two tactical type things a navy uniform needs to do.
Was probably the worst duty uniform ever issued in any branch of the military. It was a fricking abomination
I was one of the first people on my ship to swap to greens. Best decision I ever made. Way more breathable, more pockets. The rank tabs were a b***h and a half (colorblind), but they started swapping those out before I left.
They also had built-in blousing straps which the NWUs didn't. Massive FOD hazard on carriers; you had to wear Gulf War era camo pants if you worked flight deck. And before anybody says anything, no, you don't wear coveralls on the flight deck either. They also need blousing straps.
>blousing straps
Tell me you are a cum addicted homosexual without telling me you are a cum addicted homosexual.
Tuck your pants into your boots like a man anon. Or let me guess the US Navy spends it's day playing dress up on the Flight Deck instead of war fighting.
Recruiting. It was adopted when all the Marines and Army had already gone digital. The excuse was that it hid paint stains better than coveralls and so the uniform would remain serviceable for longer. Though the uniforms also melted to your skin in a fire so they banned it from ship use. The myth about it hiding an overboard sailor is moronic and if you believe that you should have a nice day for being so moronic.
Honestly, they were just jealous of the other branches. Not sure which dipshits thought ocean camouflage was a good idea. Stick out on land like a sore thumb and disappear if you go overboard.
hmm.
best option for that would be if they had hi-vis patches that were covered in a coating that washed off quickly in salt water so the hi-vis only showed if someone fell overboard.
if I was SECDEF... >combat servicemen wear camo for tactically operating operationally in nonpermissive AORs >Technicians wear khaki/drab coveralls with lots of pockets for wrenchs and screwdrivers and shit >deskgays wear service/dress uniform as punishment for enjoying air conditioning
It wouldn't be logistically efficient, but it would please my autism, which is more than enough justification as SECDEF
Pixelated shit is amazing. You never ever have to wash them honestly, they never look dirty. The more you wash them the more faded they get too so it looks less good.
t. wore same uniform for 4 months without washing. People retched when walking by me but I dont give a frick. My PO thought it was funny so he didn't say anything and just told our WO that I had bad body odor.
>DNA analysis of several other species of toothed whales indicated that the eyes of these whales do not develop pigment cells called short-wave-sensitive (S-) cones, which are sensitive to blue light. >Researchers theorize that all modern cetaceans, including killer whales, lack these visual pigments and therefore aren't able to discriminate color in the blue wavelengths.
I like the blue uniform. It makes sense. Army/ground troops get green/yellow/white for forest/desert/snow, sailors/navy get blue for water, pilots get light blue with white streaks for sky
the "blue berry" uniforms are legitimately moronic. they should have the same navy grey they use on their ships. no digital camo bs, just solid navy grey. it would have looked way better and a lighter color wont heat up as quickly as dark blue, so it would be better for the kind of work the navy usual has to do.
it just shows moronic the military's leadership can be "well everyone else has camo that looks like where they operate, we need ocean themed camo! the kids will love it and recruitment will go up!"
To flex on you. I bet you don't have any camo anon.
so fighter planes can't see the crew on the ship's deck and target them during strafing runs
why would that matter?
if you can see an enemy boat you should shoot it regardless right?
if you sink the boat you will probably kill alot if not all of the crew.
so why do they need camo?
Not all jets are equipped to sink a battleship, so they would instead resort to taking potshots at the crew on board. If you can't see the crew, you don't know where to potshot. Of course camo does not save 100% of soldiers in such a situation, but if it can reduce casualties by even just 15% or so that is already worth it.
so the reason ALL naval crew members have to have specific water themed camo from head to toe is because on the off chance a jet is in range that has weapons that could kill crew that happen to be on deck but not any weapons that can do damage to the ship itself...
They have to wear uniform anyway, might aswell give the uniform a secondary purpose.
wouldn't it be easier to have 1 uniform for everyone?
why waste money and time making different designs and patterns?
or make it a solid color
from the height of a plane that can see there are crew on deck its going to see them regardless of camo pattern and its not going to be able to pick out the specific details of the camo, why not just make it 1 flat color?
Maybe, I don't know, I'm just pulling things out of my ass here.
clearly
Way back when, it was a solid color. We since discovered giving it multiple colors tends to not only look cooler but also provide a function.
It's not as cool. Imagine you are building a comprehensive Imperial guard army for 40k with a massive budget, so you can build a ground army, space navy, regular navy and airforce, with vehicles and troops for each. Would you really use the same color-scheme for all of them?
having blue camo on a grey steel ship doesnt work as a camo
So they have an excuse to keep motoring when a seaman inevitably suicides by jumping into the big blue.
Any navy anon fill me in to why they change their camos to green? Is it true that the blue camos were uncomfortable to wear?
>Any navy anon fill me in to why they change their camos to green?
they changed to aor pattern
Blue was a winter weight pattern and uncomfortable in most of the climates we operate in. Also blended in with the deck plates like perfectly so if there was a fire or whatever and you became a casualty, good chance the corpsman or dct investigator wouldn't see you. Also wasn't in any way fire resistant and couldn't be made into a floatation device which are the only two tactical type things a navy uniform needs to do.
Was probably the worst duty uniform ever issued in any branch of the military. It was a fricking abomination
Don't forget the stupid goddamn cartoon in the left breast pocket either. NWUs were a joke all the way down.
would have been tan just like everyone else but marines threw a hissy fit
I was one of the first people on my ship to swap to greens. Best decision I ever made. Way more breathable, more pockets. The rank tabs were a b***h and a half (colorblind), but they started swapping those out before I left.
They also had built-in blousing straps which the NWUs didn't. Massive FOD hazard on carriers; you had to wear Gulf War era camo pants if you worked flight deck. And before anybody says anything, no, you don't wear coveralls on the flight deck either. They also need blousing straps.
>blousing straps
Tell me you are a cum addicted homosexual without telling me you are a cum addicted homosexual.
Tuck your pants into your boots like a man anon. Or let me guess the US Navy spends it's day playing dress up on the Flight Deck instead of war fighting.
Recruiting. It was adopted when all the Marines and Army had already gone digital. The excuse was that it hid paint stains better than coveralls and so the uniform would remain serviceable for longer. Though the uniforms also melted to your skin in a fire so they banned it from ship use. The myth about it hiding an overboard sailor is moronic and if you believe that you should have a nice day for being so moronic.
Honestly, they were just jealous of the other branches. Not sure which dipshits thought ocean camouflage was a good idea. Stick out on land like a sore thumb and disappear if you go overboard.
>disappear if you go overboard.
this is what I dont understand
it seems like they would want to wear hi-vis clothes
hmm.
best option for that would be if they had hi-vis patches that were covered in a coating that washed off quickly in salt water so the hi-vis only showed if someone fell overboard.
if I was SECDEF...
>combat servicemen wear camo for tactically operating operationally in nonpermissive AORs
>Technicians wear khaki/drab coveralls with lots of pockets for wrenchs and screwdrivers and shit
>deskgays wear service/dress uniform as punishment for enjoying air conditioning
It wouldn't be logistically efficient, but it would please my autism, which is more than enough justification as SECDEF
Because it's sexy as frick!
they should bring this back
but for everything, not just boats
planes, tanks, uniforms, guns.
Pixelated shit is amazing. You never ever have to wash them honestly, they never look dirty. The more you wash them the more faded they get too so it looks less good.
t. wore same uniform for 4 months without washing. People retched when walking by me but I dont give a frick. My PO thought it was funny so he didn't say anything and just told our WO that I had bad body odor.
>proudly stating you lived like a fricking creature just to keep your shit from fading
everyone knows that faded uniforms are the most comfy
underwater camo for counter-merman operations ofc
Did you just assume their gender?
>DNA analysis of several other species of toothed whales indicated that the eyes of these whales do not develop pigment cells called short-wave-sensitive (S-) cones, which are sensitive to blue light. >Researchers theorize that all modern cetaceans, including killer whales, lack these visual pigments and therefore aren't able to discriminate color in the blue wavelengths.
I like the blue uniform. It makes sense. Army/ground troops get green/yellow/white for forest/desert/snow, sailors/navy get blue for water, pilots get light blue with white streaks for sky
the "blue berry" uniforms are legitimately moronic. they should have the same navy grey they use on their ships. no digital camo bs, just solid navy grey. it would have looked way better and a lighter color wont heat up as quickly as dark blue, so it would be better for the kind of work the navy usual has to do.
it just shows moronic the military's leadership can be "well everyone else has camo that looks like where they operate, we need ocean themed camo! the kids will love it and recruitment will go up!"
so they're harder to rescue from sea
A bigger crime is the navy officially replacing AOR-2 with OCP
>blue sky
>blue ocean
>getting skylined
Blue camo makes sense
>camo
>posts navy work uniform