Why does everyone hate the basic M4 stock so much?

Why does everyone hate the basic M4 stock so much?

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  1. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    do they? I'm assuming it's all about style points. I don't have any issue with it.

  2. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    wobbles

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      yours wobbles?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Not the guy you replied to, but in the estonian military rifle LMT R20, it rattled too much for my taste

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That is probably your buffer tube out of spec.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        your buffer tube is out of spec if it doesn't wobble. I didn't know a single person in the army that didn't have a wobbly stock. you're supposed to shim your tube with some duct tape

  3. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >implying its not the best

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      its ugly, fragile and rips my beard

      car 15 > CTR > sopmod
      any other stock is trash

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How come nobody considers the STR in lists with sopmod?

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Because it's ugly

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          BCM Gunfighter is an alternative to this. Nice flat sides with nothing to grab your facial hair. I'm pretty scruffy right now and I just rubbed my face all over mine and din't get any caught hairs.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          fat

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I like it

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        How do you charge your rifle with that cheek rest on there? It looks like it gets I the way

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          He cloned a british special forces rifle

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous
      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >fragile. Found to be indestructible by C.R.A.N.E.
        okay

  4. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    well just fricking look at it

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      yep. its pretty based.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I’m not seeing any problems

  5. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    look at it

  6. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I've never heard anyone say they 'hate' it. Functionally there's nothing wrong with it but I think that 1). It would benefit from having more adjustment points and 2).there are definitely cooler looking stocks

  7. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The same reason everyone hates white people: theyre dead ass jealous

  8. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Why does everyone like magpul stocks so much?
    >Wobble wobble
    >Rattle rattle
    "Quality"

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      cuz it works honkey, it doesnt affect aim.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Ever heard of CTR?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      My MOE SL is rock solid.

  9. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Unless I'm clean shaved it pulls and yanks my facial hair

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Me personally, I broke one on the range table smashing an aluminum mag that had fricked up feed lips. Granted this was a PSA version and thus the plastic probably wasn't up to spec, but I just buy magpul shit now and it's been fine.

      oh frick I forgot about that haha. Yeah that's not a good feeling.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Sounds literally impossible since according to C.R.A.N.E. the m4 stock you claim to have broke is literally one of the only two indestructible stocks that exist, the other being the sopmod b5.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >C.R.A.N.E.
          Dipshit, it isn't an acronym. NSWC Crane is called "Crane" because it's in Crane, Indiana. Way to out yourself as a moron.
          >sopmod b5
          Pleb

          https://i.imgur.com/a8rEQsZ.jpg

          Why does everyone hate the basic M4 stock so much?

          Because most people's experience with one is some shitty plastic replica instead of an actual contract stock made out of proper thermoset composite. People also don't like that it's a default option and seems "basic".

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >blowing $210 on a stock for a brand
            ishiggydiggy

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Magpul stocks do that to me something fierce

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Unless I'm clean shaved it pulls and yanks my facial hair

        https://i.imgur.com/4G89Www.jpg

        its ugly, fragile and rips my beard

        car 15 > CTR > sopmod
        any other stock is trash

        Stop being basedboys and you wont have this 'problem'

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I'm not shaving my mustache just because you're a gay.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I always laugh when people use those pics because irl Matt left his first wife for a younger woman, is rich, and fricks

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >Leaving the woman who married you and took care of your underemployed crippled ass for years before you made it rich
            Maybe there's a reason they split other than him becoming rich and being able to upgrade, but on the surface it seems distasteful.

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            chapo check

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >t. sóyboy that can't grow a beard

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          https://i.imgur.com/r40lz24.jpg

          Then shave, you fricking manbaby

          Lift weights and choose another frame style besides le incel glasses

          Oh, so it is the classic dysgenic loser obscuring his weak genes after all

          Cherrypicking hairless cucks
          Men on left would look manlier with beards and you know it
          Just like men on right would look more feminine when clean shaved and you know it

          >Ibn4 muh jawlet
          I have a cleft chin and sharp jaw and far better face than all of PrepHole
          I just cover it with the beard cause i prefer to be the most dimorphic possible

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            Cope

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              >cope

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Post physique

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                We talking about the face here
                You physique is obviously better since you train everyday, but if i start to train too, i would have a better body and even there i have some better parts then you while being untrained

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >but if i start to train too, i would have a better body and even there i have some better parts then you while being untrained
                Holy cope batman

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Its the truth
                While never exercising, i have better body parts than you

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Post body tubby. I'm not him either

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                bro then just lift

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >If I went to med school and became a surgeon I would make more money than you

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I've never seen this level of cope before. This has to be bait.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                i mean, he has a point

                genetics > gains every single time.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >genetics > gains every single time.
                I bet Senator Armstrong could break the twink in two with his bare hands

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                thats cool, if we lived in 1400bc that would be a valid skill

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                It's a valid skill at any point in time
                A pretty face won't save you from getting raped boy, au contraire

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                unfortunately we live in a society where violence of any kind is punished to an extraordinary degree. women are the selectors.

                therefore, the guy on the left will be superior every single time until that changes. and thats ignoring the fact that if the guy on the left went to the gym, he'd be better overall. thats the unfair world we live in

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                right gets more pussy because the twink is unironically gay

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                cope

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                seethe and dilate

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He has a point about bodies in general. Face > frame. He has zero point about his own body because he’s fat and out of shape

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I can't see left as a real person
                He looks photoshopped

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                He's just lensmaxxing

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Your head looks small

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/J63arXp.jpg

                Post body tubby. I'm not him either

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/J63arXp.jpg

                Post body tubby. I'm not him either

                Not till its perfected
                You guys are trained while im untrained
                Its not comparable but even then like i said i have better body parts
                I have wider shoulders than you for exemple

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I could kill you with one (1) punch

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah i would love to see that you low t homosexual
                I could break you in half when being a cripple

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Just say the time and the place homosexual
                Be there or be square
                My hands are registered as lethal weapons

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >You guys are trained while im untrained
                That's a cute way to say fat and weak. Post body.

                If you're bigger and/or stronger than me I'd actually be impressed. So prove it.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Bigger
                I have wider shoulders, dont have abs tho
                >stronger
                Im naturally strong and i know how to fight

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Post body tubby. Pic related is where you belong

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                good physique brah, wish i wasn't meal team 6

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You sound fat.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >total lack of pecs
                Man, what the frick you doing...

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I'll be real with you, I don't know why my pecs are shit tier than they should be. I've always had plenty of bench in my routines and it's one of my best lifts weight-wise. I actually benched too much and got inflamed cartlidge in my ribcage some I haven't been able to work any pressing movements the last month.
                So I might just have shit chest genetics. When I get healed up, I'm gonna focusing on something other than flat bench for building chest, see if that works.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >When I get healed up, I'm gonna focusing on something other than flat bench for building chest, see if that works.
                It probably will—pec deck flyes and incline/decline bench are all objectively better for pec development than flat bench

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I had some incline in there, but more as an accessory. Probably gonna make it the primary chest movement in the future and add some decline, too.

                https://i.imgur.com/Urhcut1.gif

                >concave chest
                >woman hips
                >anorexic
                >android phone

                >Still not posting your fat fricking body
                >Being so fricking fat that you think someone at 14% bodyfat looks anorexic
                >Being such a gay that you care about phone brands
                Holy shit, dude. I bet you can't even jog a mile.

                People who look like these bearded buttholes trigger a disgust response in me, anyone know why? It's not the beards necessarily, it's the sort of person who often goes for that style in general

                Probably because your brain is good at pattern recognition and it realizes that 99% of dudes who look like that are insufferable progressives with terrible opinions who will call you a nazi (on Twitter of course, they don't have the balls to do it to your face) for disagreeing with them.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Holy shit, dude. I bet you can't even jog a mile.
                Lol. I'm a woman, you silly little weak twink gay-boy

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                holy shit, c**t, I bet you can't even jog a mile

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Then you'd be losing a bet, sweaty. You've got a tiny little dick less than 7" too, don't you lol

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                YWNBAW

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >Probably because your brain is good at pattern recognition and it realizes that 99% of dudes who look like that are insufferable progressives with terrible opinions who will call you a nazi (on Twitter of course, they don't have the balls to do it to your face) for disagreeing with them.
                Not to mention probably sexual predators too.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Fair chance of it, yeah.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >I actually benched too much and got inflamed cartlidge in my ribcage some I haven't been able to work any pressing movements the last month.
                I’m curious, what does that pain feel like? Is it kind of a dull pain that comes and goes over your chest or what?

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Mostly when I do something at least mildly strenuous that engages my chest muscles, there's a sort of burning/sharpish pain in the center of my ribcage.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Got it. Thanks man. I’ve had pain for a couple months over my left pec that comes and goes so I was wondering if it’s similar. I know it’s not the muscle and been worried it’s the heart, but it doesn’t hurt when doing cardio.

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >concave chest
                >woman hips
                >anorexic
                >android phone

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                if you think iphone is better than android you need to leave this site unironically

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                This

                if you think iphone is better than android you need to leave this site unironically

                Reddit exists for people like (You)

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                >still b***hing like a woman
                >still not posting a body
                You are fat

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Looking thick, solid, right. Would be bros

                [...]
                Not till its perfected
                You guys are trained while im untrained
                Its not comparable but even then like i said i have better body parts
                I have wider shoulders than you for exemple

                Keep coping fat frick

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I didnt say i was fat
                I said i was normal

                Just say the time and the place homosexual
                Be there or be square
                My hands are registered as lethal weapons

                You first homosexual
                I could take both of you seething homosexuals while alone

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                Fite me, c**t

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                You always on your knees? That pose looks too natural for you

              • 2 years ago
                Anonymous

                I can see your penor

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            I agree—the problem with beards and mustaches these days is that it's no longer the dafault option, so the only people wearing them are people who think facial hair is a substitute for having a personality. Growing whatever facial hair you can manage won't make you look like Tom Selleck or a viking any more than shaving will make you look like Alain Delon—hot guys are hot, ugly and/or effeminate guys aren't, period.

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              Ya-YA-YAMERO MY MUSTACHE IS MY PERSONALITY DONT TAKE IT AWAY FROM ME AHHHHHHH

            • 2 years ago
              Anonymous

              if you pick any man, he would look more manly with facial hair and more feminine when clean shaved (not talking about stubble, five o clock, just about super clean shaved like a baby)
              Its just logical

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            >I have a cleft chin and sharp jaw and far better face than all of PrepHole
            Nice lack of proof lmao

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Who the frick shaves anyways? This isn't the 80-90's anymore... just trim and keep it nice

          t. Chad

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Even as someone who prefers being clean shaven, you sound like a massive coping homosexual

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Then shave, you fricking manbaby

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        if i shave i'll look like this
        i can fake a jawline with my beard

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, so it is the classic dysgenic loser obscuring his weak genes after all

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Lift weights and choose another frame style besides le incel glasses

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          Oh, so it is the classic dysgenic loser obscuring his weak genes after all

          Lift weights and choose another frame style besides le incel glasses

          >not minmaxing the Incel Shooter looks
          ngmi

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >if i shave i'll look like this

          And what’s wrong with that

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        I do shave I'm just lazy sometimes

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          I don't shave, I'm lazy all the time. I like to keep the beard just long enough that it doesn't itch but just short enough that it stays out of the way.

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Men back then lived harder lives and that aged them differently. Men today love soft lives and that's why they look soft. Good example is Clint Eastwood. He looks manly when he's clean shaven in Dirty Harry and manly when he has a full beard in TGTBATU. Compare him to someone modern like Chris Pratt, who even when he's shredded he still looks a little soft.

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          From what I understand it's a difference in diet. Carbs are much more common in modern food leading to overall softer faces and bodies compared to 60 or so years ago. Probably also has a lot to do with the materials used in modern food processing as well

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          the average 25 year old man today has the same testosterone levels as a 70 year old man from 50 years ago

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        People who look like these bearded buttholes trigger a disgust response in me, anyone know why? It's not the beards necessarily, it's the sort of person who often goes for that style in general

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >shave you manbaby

        >Literally advocating to emulate a baby's face.
        Wut?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >use army issue stock
      >IT PULLS MUH BEARD!

      Shut up and shave if you want to larp as an armyboy

  10. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Because the classic CAR stock is sexier

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      bump

  11. 2 years ago
    Geese

    i like the fixed a2 stock because i am better off without the adjustability

  12. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's ugly. The CAR stock is better.

  13. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's not that everyone hates it, it's just that replacing it with something better is fairly cheap and easy.

  14. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't hate it, I just hate that stupid sling loop. It digs into my shoulder.

  15. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    "correct" answer: It's a bit wobbly, the adjustment lever can be unintentionally negaged by a rear bag and cause the collapsible stock to collapse when you don't want it to, and it doesn't have storage or a buttpad or QD scokets for attaching a sling in the current fashion
    Real answer: it came with the gun and AR gays have to rice their shit up to make up for buying the most basic selfloading rifle available.

  16. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I have always hated where they put that sling attachment loop on these, so I've always just ran my sling through the little slot and around the buffer tube portion of the stock, and locked through the tri-glide or whatever the frick those things are called. Ratchet, but it works.

    The other day, someone informed me that the gap was never meant for stocks to be run there, that it's only there for weight savings, and it's likely to eventually snap break the stock in places where there's not enough material between the slot and the buffer tube portion to support weight bearing.

    I didn't want to argue with the guy that I've had my setup running there for nearly a decade with zero issues, so I'm pretty sure the risk of breakage is fuddlore. But what about the bit with the slot being there only for weight savings?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Basically 100% bullshit. If it was steel I'd understand multiple weight saving cutouts but a single toothpick-sized needle of plastic is going to do nothing. Why else would they provide a little slit that's exactly the same width of a sling?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      Total bullshit. The material removed probably amounts to no more than a gram or two, and the "lightening cut" happens to be exactly the right size and shape and in exactly the right spot for attaching a sling?

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      That homie looks like Sergeant Doakes

  17. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    its hard on the back and leaves a bruise on my shoulder from the recoil

  18. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    AR stocks?

  19. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    thread got gayer than a GT video

  20. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Looks like a gay version of the CAR stock. Sure, its functional, but aesthetics are more important than marginal increases in utility.

  21. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    wobbles, and apparently the length of pull is either always just too long, or just too short to fit properly.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      How is that the fault of the stock and not the cheap tube you are using?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        Goes back to the days of the original M4 stock.

  22. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    https://www.peacegeek.net/category-s/139.htm

    This is the best stock /arg/ told me so

  23. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's uggo

  24. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >hard plastic butt pad
    Rubber gives you a better seat into your shoulder and doesn't feel as cheap
    >thin profile cheek rest
    Doesn't cradle the face as comfortably
    >cuts in cheek rest
    Uncomfortable
    >looks bad
    This is objective
    >loose tolerances
    Makes it easier to adjust, but it wiggles a lot and doesn't feel as rigid as a result. You don't adjust the stock a lot anyway

    It's just cheap and looks and feels cheap.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >It's just cheap and looks and feels cheap.
      It is cheap and that’s the point. It’s good enough and works well enough and is cheap. Now for us, we have hundreds of options and paying a little more for something that doesn’t feel as cheap is a option most people use.

  25. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    These things are goat with the mft evolve stock attachment. Gives you a usable sopmod style waterproof tubed stock for an extra 17 bucks.

  26. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I like QD points, rubber butt pad, more ergonomic cheek, less wobble.

  27. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I personally like SOPMOD stocks

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >that fricking handguard
      >adjustment tab of the sling at the rear point
      What the frick is this shit?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        >that fricking handguard
        A DD Omega rail
        >sling
        It works for me

  28. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It’s sexy. I love the classic 90’s/2000’s M4 look

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      My fellow Numibian Royalty. Why the infighting i love the style the m4 stock brings, i love the new age stuff too and i love the old school car 15 stock. They are all cutie pies i like to frick with. AND they get the job done. What more can a man ask for. I like your style senpai

  29. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Idk. I haven't changed out any of mine they do the job.

  30. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    I don't hate it, I just prefer other stock designs.
    CTR for something similar to the og m4 but with better adjustment and fitment on the buffer tube to reduce wobble. QD points for sling is nice.
    B5 SOPMOD or Bravo stock for the better cheek weld, SOPMOD battery/storage compartment is whatever. QD points have anti rotation compared to magpul stocks. Again better fitment with the buffer tube.
    Both of these have rubber end pieces so it has better grip on your shoulder pocket and especially so when you have your plate carrier on or anything else you have on where the stock would rest on.

  31. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    My only b***h is no qd hole.

  32. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    i hate it because it rattles. i've tried mine on a few diff buffer tubes and it has play in pretty much every direction. ive tried mine on a few different buffer tubes.

    it's also missing features namely a qd socket. which is easily solved (pic rel) but its still thin plastic and a little sus.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      forgot to add. ive tried nearly every stock on the market and these are my favorites. In no particular order.
      >b5 sopmod stock - enhanced
      >Magpul CTR
      >VLTOR iMOD/eMOD - If you dont have a beard
      Ironically the MFT minimalist is fantastic but it's ugly as hell so I dont rec it.

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What is that qd?

      • 2 years ago
        Anonymous

        https://www.impactweaponscomponents.com/product/qd-rotation-limited-buttstock-sling-mount-n-slot/

        knights armament used to make one as well but they discontinued it. it really sucks, it makes the basic m4 stock into a fairly decent modern setup. so long as you dont have rattle issues

        • 2 years ago
          Anonymous

          >30$
          >when you can get a CTR for 60$

          • 2 years ago
            Anonymous

            yeah

            at that points its more for the classic aesthetics

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      What is that qd?

      Nvmd i found it.

  33. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It only gives -29% recoil in Escape from Tarkov.

  34. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    >mogs manlets
    >Mogs lanklets
    >Is the physical embodiment of the concept of Excalibur
    You can all cope but it's perfection

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      plus castle nuts are for pussies

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous

      >Is the physical embodiment of the concept of Excalibur
      Wut

    • 2 years ago
      Anonymous
  35. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    The same reason PC enthusiasts buy a $450 liquid cooking system even though they are just running an i7 that stock dell office machine coolers take care of just fine. Cuz its stock, and enthusiasts don't want to be seen running stock parts.

  36. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    Hate? I’m trying to find one in stock

  37. 2 years ago
    Anonymous

    It's a good stock and I like it a lot.

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