Why do so many Americans believe Euros can't own guns? Do they think all of Europe is like Britain?

Why do so many Americans believe Euros can't own guns? Do they think all of Europe is like Britain?

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  1. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    If it requires a license it's effectively the same as owning a video game.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So you don't own your car?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You don't need a license to own a car, only to drive it on a public road.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >you don't need a license to own a car, just to do the only thing anyone buys a car for
          it's the same shit

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            It is not even close

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              "not even close"
              really?? now I know you're just being facetious

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Nta, but I think you might be a little dumb.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                He's not dumb, he's just wrong. That's a similar distinction to the one he's arguing to be the same.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                frick you Black person!

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Actually it is.
              In most european nations it's perfectly legal to OWN a gun (like, if you get it as inheritance from a family member who has owned one). It's your property, but you don't have a license to keep it in your possession or use it.

              My mother inherited a gun (p08 luger pistol) from her uncle. In normal circumstances it would have been her legal property and she could have sold it, but it would have just been taken to police custody as she had no license for it. (in our case my dad had license for similar pistol, so they just let them have it at home in his safe). Then she applied for a license, went through the legal process to get it, and now she has a license for the gun.

              So it's kinda same as owning a car but not having a drivers license. You can own it, rent it, sell it, but not use it. The only difference is about where it can be stored (You can't have it in your possession without license).

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Also, you can't BUY a gun without having a permission to acquire a firearm, which is part of the process of getting a license.

                Think it as in order to buy a car, you already have to have a valid drivers license.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                > in order to buy a car, you already have to have a valid drivers license.
                But you don’t have to in the US.

                Man, I really wish the old grabber nugget of “we should treat guns just like we do cars!” could come true. That’d be pretty based.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >In normal circumstances it would have been her legal property and she could have sold it, but it would have just been taken to police custody as she had no license for it
                >Uhhh you can OWN it
                >But uhhh you can't POSSESS it
                This is some b***hute conspiracy tier semantic frickery anon, just own up to the fact that most Euros don't have genuine rights and civil liberties.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >So it's kinda same as owning a car but not having a drivers license. You can own it, rent it, sell it, but not use it. The only difference is about where it can be stored (You can't have it in your possession without license).
                Black person, that's the principal difference, good job admitting you're wrong. And one more thing, driving on private roads and property without a license is perfectly legal, so you can use it, just not on taxpayer roads.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                https://i.imgur.com/r6ztMLf.jpg

                Also, you can't BUY a gun without having a permission to acquire a firearm, which is part of the process of getting a license.

                Think it as in order to buy a car, you already have to have a valid drivers license.

                >but not use it.
                In the US you can operate a motor vehicle without a license on private property. Your analogy fricking sucks anon.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                you can too in germany. The first time I "drove" a car was when I was 4 years old on my dads lap because my feet where to short and it was a manual.

                Its also quiet common for children to go to a ADAC Platz where you can drive with your parents or older friend who already own driver licenses for some time.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Cara are useless if you can't drive on a public road
            Do Europoors know that we can have private land in the US?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Private…
              Land?

              I don’t understand.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Private…
              Land?

              I don’t understand.

              Congrats you can drive around on your own driveway, how fricking useful
              Owning your own fricking roads, never mind roads that actually go somewhere relevant, is not something that realistically comes into play for 99.9% of people and that includes in America

              This is why Americans assume you're all cucked and unfree, you don't even really understand freedom and what is and isn't freedom, and what is less free than something else.

              A driver's license is akin to a CCW license to carry in public, not the ability to own a gun at all.

              You need neither insurance nor a license to own a car in the US. You can be a 16 year old farmboy with no license driving daddy's truck on his farmland to help move bales of hay for example.

              irrelevant for the vast majority once again
              the meaningful distinction between guns (for citizens, not the army) and cars is that the primary use case for cars is outside the home, and the primary use case for guns is inside the home
              sure, there are cases where people use their guns far from home, and cases where it's useful to have a car for freight on a farm or somesuch, but I'm talking about the vast majority of cases
              >This is why Americans assume you're all cucked and unfree
              It's because you think if you give everyone personal freedom you automatically get collective freedom as a consequence
              But what makes one man more free can in fact often make another man less free
              Driving is indeed a very potent example. If you improved people's individual freedom by removing the need for licenses, you would worsen the collective freedom because roads would be full of shit drivers and the risks of using them would become too great

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >collective freedom
                Holy frick Europeans are moronic.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Europeans genuinely do not understand the meaning of freedom and openly and proudly admit they prefer comfort to freedom.

                [...]
                Congrats you can drive around on your own driveway, how fricking useful
                Owning your own fricking roads, never mind roads that actually go somewhere relevant, is not something that realistically comes into play for 99.9% of people and that includes in America
                [...]
                irrelevant for the vast majority once again
                the meaningful distinction between guns (for citizens, not the army) and cars is that the primary use case for cars is outside the home, and the primary use case for guns is inside the home
                sure, there are cases where people use their guns far from home, and cases where it's useful to have a car for freight on a farm or somesuch, but I'm talking about the vast majority of cases
                >This is why Americans assume you're all cucked and unfree
                It's because you think if you give everyone personal freedom you automatically get collective freedom as a consequence
                But what makes one man more free can in fact often make another man less free
                Driving is indeed a very potent example. If you improved people's individual freedom by removing the need for licenses, you would worsen the collective freedom because roads would be full of shit drivers and the risks of using them would become too great

                That's not freedom.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Europeans genuinely do not understand the meaning of freedom and openly and proudly admit they prefer comfort to freedom.
                [...]
                That's not freedom.

                >personal freedom
                >collective freedom
                These terms are meaningless. Denial of rights is not an expansion of freedom.

                I don't know if you know this but there's a state dick so far up your ass it's poking out of your mouth and speaking for you.

                Even if nothing is explicitly forbidden, you are not "free" if almost everything is disincentivised, impractical, or inaccessible to you, by design.
                I'm sure you understand what I'm talking about but you're playing the fool.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >bro freedom isn't freedom, possibility isn't freedom
                >only the comfort guaranteed to you by the state, that is freedom
                You weren't built for it. You were born to be a serf.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >personal freedom
                >collective freedom
                These terms are meaningless. Denial of rights is not an expansion of freedom.

                I don't know if you know this but there's a state dick so far up your ass it's poking out of your mouth and speaking for you.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Europeans genuinely do not understand the meaning of freedom and openly and proudly admit they prefer comfort to freedom.
                [...]
                That's not freedom.

                hey lads you have ONE SHOT to prove that you're not massive fricking DO NOTHING KEKOLDS

                you best defend texas!

                OH WHAT'S THAT?
                YOU SHAN'T?

                LMFAO

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why? Seems like the national guard is already there doing the job.
                >s-so I can whine on the internet!
                But you do that already

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >here's some gay as frick analogy because I am not articulate enough to refute you directly
                whew lad I thought you were gonna start trashing locke and I'm not well read.

          • 1 month ago
            Based Doomguy

            This is why Americans assume you're all cucked and unfree, you don't even really understand freedom and what is and isn't freedom, and what is less free than something else.

            A driver's license is akin to a CCW license to carry in public, not the ability to own a gun at all.

            You need neither insurance nor a license to own a car in the US. You can be a 16 year old farmboy with no license driving daddy's truck on his farmland to help move bales of hay for example.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's where you're wrong
          t. drove my $300 piece of shit beater 97 accord for 7 years without a license.

  2. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    oh hey anon, its sad you got btfo in your other thread.

    [...]

  3. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because as an American I have no clue where you are much less what your society is like unless I'm actively bombing it back to the stone age

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I really wish other American would stop bragging about how they choose to be geographically illiterate.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I know you're a dogwater european but people living in first world countries don't give a frick about other shithole continents, countries or whatever the frick. The only people that care about this shit are third-world shit eaters (see russians).

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I dont expect euros to know where fricking Arkansas is. But im expected to give a shit about the geography, culture and history of a bumfrick country of 10 million people that has changed governments 4 times in the past 100 years? Frick off.

  4. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The problem is in Europe they only let you have them under harshly regulated conditions. You will keep it locked in a safe at all times no fun allowed, the police have to like you and do constant wellness checks, no buying ammo that's dangerous, you must let us examine to see what features it has, pay the loicense, etc. The reason Europeans don't own firearms isn't because they can't per se but because the process of owning one is so unenjoyable compared to in America that it discourages people from trying

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >but because the process of owning one is so unenjoyable compared to in America that it discourages people from trying
      yet i still can own 12.5 inch ar with a stock and my dog won't be shot by the atf
      oh have i mentioned i can buy silencers online and have them delivered to my doorstep with not tax stamps nor licenses?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Can you carry your AR shorty or a handgun around in public for self-defense without needing a license? Because I can do that where I live. Also, you still need to register your gun and have a license for it. That's way worse than needing those for a suppressor.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        OK then show us a picture. Oh wait you'll have to call the cops and see if it's OK to look at. They'll say no anyways

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Now carry it outside

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Will you ever use it thoUuugh?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          No and that's a good thing

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          American larpers never will either, so that’s a wash. And if euros did revolt, I doubt they would bother with the law anyways.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Country?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          They'll never answer because a quick google search will reveal they're full of shit and had to jump through a bunch of hoops or it has to be a .22

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >oh have i mentioned i can buy silencers online and have them delivered to my doorstep with not tax stamps nor licenses?
        yeah, this is pretty true Europe wide as well, at least for 22s

        OK then show us a picture. Oh wait you'll have to call the cops and see if it's OK to look at. They'll say no anyways

        No one posts guns since vatBlack folk started screaming post guns.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        You mean a cucked ar or a real one?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Post guns 🙂

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >pay the loicense
      Is the only fact here
      The rest is american fantasy nonsense
      We can buy ammo at pubs and there's no check about wtf you do with your guns

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >harshly regulated conditions
      Depends on the country. Most Euro countries have still less harsh conditions than several US states.

      >You will keep it locked in a safe at all times no fun allowed
      Not true in most countries. You need to have a safe but as long as you're home it can be whatever.

      >the police have to like you and do constant wellness checks
      Depends on the country, there are no wellness checks here and everything other than full auto and destructive devices is shall-issue, cops have no say in whether you can buy something or not.

      >no buying ammo that's dangerous
      What?

      >you must let us examine to see what features it has, pay the loicense, etc.
      Mostly it means taking the gun to the PD every decade so they see you still have it and haven't sold it to gypsies to rob people with.

      When will burger bros learn Europe isn't a single country?
      They themselves have gun laws that vary wildly state from state, this shouldn't be hard to grasp at all.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >>no buying ammo that's dangerous
        >What?
        Murder bullets are banned. The other kind that is safe is OKay.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >When will burger bros learn Europe isn't a single country?
        >They themselves have gun laws that vary wildly state from state, this shouldn't be hard to grasp at all.
        It's even worse. It varies a lot between regions. It's a law hell. For example, Spain:
        Main gov has power over ammo, so you can buy 00bucket for your hunting shotgun. But regional gov has the jurisdiction over hunting, and doesn't allow that ammo. So i can legally buy it here but i'm not allowed to use it lmao.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >When will burger bros learn Europe isn't a single country?
        when euro bros learn the us isn't one state

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          wait the USA isn't just Texas? where do they keep the Maryland then?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That'd be fair towards the general populace but I'm pretty sure every Euro coming to /k/ knows NJ and MS have very different gun laws.

          >Most Euro countries have still less harsh conditions than several US states.
          That's just bullshit and I say this as a Euro. Yeah, you can cherrypick shitholes like WA or NYC, doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of the US is better off than the vast majority of Europe. But the average Euronormoid wouldn't know liberty if it punched him in the eye, and thus things will never improve

          >you can cherrypick shitholes like WA or NYC
          Or NJ or IL or CT or Cali?
          There are many places that are positively dogshit for gun owners.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >There are many places that are positively dogshit for gun owners.
            Yeah, like Germany lmao

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              You can buy an AR, a .50 BMG rifle and a semi shotgun with a 5+ rd capacity in Germany.
              Can you in Illinois?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >AR
                No real capacity mags, so invalid. Europe is a fricking shithole gunwise and all my fellow Europeans claiming otherwise are coping

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >No real capacity mags
                That's nice because you can't get these in Illinois either. :^)

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't live in Illinois, I live in Finland. Give it 5 years and we won't own a single semi-auto anymore

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Oh of course it's the finncuck doomer.
                Go and get some sun, the cold, the day drinking and staying indoors all day is making you gays all depressed.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The rest of the EU may well survive the lead ban, Finnish gun ownership will not

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >every American poster on /k/ lives in Illinois
                If this straw man was any bigger, this post would have crows all over it.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The original argument was that there are worse places for gun ownership than most EU states and the posted opposed the notion using Germany as an example, there's no strawman whatsoever.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                *worse places in the US

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Why are you trying to act smug over people losing their basic human rights and freedoms? You do realize this just makes you sound like a completely spineless homosexual bootlicker who takes it up the ass from gov right? But you're also a thurd-worlder sooo...

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >:^)
                I can just smell the pure foaming at the mouth seething lol
                Doesn't your country have hate speech laws LMAO

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Most Euro countries have still less harsh conditions than several US states.
        That's just bullshit and I say this as a Euro. Yeah, you can cherrypick shitholes like WA or NYC, doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of the US is better off than the vast majority of Europe. But the average Euronormoid wouldn't know liberty if it punched him in the eye, and thus things will never improve

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        why dont you state which country you're in instead of being an ambiguous c**t?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Czech republic, do you need a tampon?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        All depends on the country.

        I live in Belgium and here:

        >harshly regulated conditions
        Some regulations are less strict than U.S., some are stricter (i.e. 10-round mag cap limit for center fire rifles, up to 30 with a special extra license), but as long as you're a collector you can have functional full-auto firearms

        >You will keep it locked in a safe at all times no fun allowed
        Safe is mandatory once you have 11 or more weapons registered, guns can only be unlocked at the range or for maintenance

        >the police have to like you and do constant wellness checks
        Police can check at any time they want, but they don't. They do have a final say in wether your license gets approved or not, and the reason for a negative advice doesn't necessarily need to have a legal basis. They can deny your license because they don't like you, which you can appeal but it's a very tedious process from what I've heard. I read about a guy this week who has been a licensed sport shooter for over 6 years, who just now got his license revoked because someone found out his wife was treated for mental health issues 19 years ago.

        >no buying ammo that's dangerous
        Hollowpoints aren't allowed here, and our own invention, the 5.7x28mm is also banned because of the "straight through 4 kevlar vests" meme

        >you must let us examine to see what features it has, pay the loicense, etc
        Gov'ment needs to know brand, model, serial no (which the police checks), barrel length, and overall length. The interns who need to put all this information in the federal registry though frick up a lot of times, leading to unnecessary legal trouble. Licenses are about €130 and they get more expensive every year. You can get up to 5 guns on 1 license payment, if you buy them at the same time. You don't need to pay the fee for .22 pistols, single shot rifles and shotguns, bolt action rifles, lever action rifles and any black powder gun. Double barreled shotguns are also considered single shot.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >owns LAM
        >in Czech Republic
        I am merely an ignorant burger so correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't ITAR specifically ban the export of all gen III+ NVGs? Given that all modern image intensifier tubes are produced by only two companies (both of which are located in the US) this effectively restricts civilian ownership to persons located within the borders of the United States. So this begs the question, why do you have a LAM on your rifle?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >So this begs the question, why do you have a LAM on your rifle?

          Because you can still get a plethora of gen III image intensifiers in the EU.
          Mine is a Katod (rebranded by Harder Digital), there are also Elbit units available.
          ITAR is a hassle but not an insurmountable obstacle by any means.

          • 1 month ago
            [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

            >buys nods (mono kek)
            >isn't even allowed to shoot outside of a shooting range
            >all the gear is completely pristine
            Top kek

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >newly bought things are pristine
              Astute observation dog molester, I'm proud of you.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >there are also Elbit units available
            AFAIK Elbit only exports gen II tubes. I have never heard of Harder Digital, can you give me a rundown of what you get for how much money? Specifically FOM, SNR, res, gain, autogated (y/n), price, etc. Also curious if they're white or green.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              White tubes, autogated.
              6800-ish Euro (yes I know the price is fricking moronic but that's what extremely limited availability gets you).

              FOM 2142
              Resolution 70
              EBI 0.9
              SN 30.6

              They're no longer sold because Katod is a Russian mfg, so ACT only uses Photonis cope Gen2+ tubes now.

              As for the Elbit tubes they're legit Gen3.
              ITAR shit can be exported, it just takes paperwork and time and money.
              https://www.falconclaw.eu/product/pvs-14-gen3-white-phoshpor/

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >ITAR shit can be exported

                Meant it can be exported to "friendly" countries and the end user has to sign some shit saying he won't ever sell it to third worlders.
                You get this piece of paperwork with every bit of ITAR regulated hardware you buy from places like Brownells Europe etc.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >owns LAM
              >in Czech Republic
              I am merely an ignorant burger so correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't ITAR specifically ban the export of all gen III+ NVGs? Given that all modern image intensifier tubes are produced by only two companies (both of which are located in the US) this effectively restricts civilian ownership to persons located within the borders of the United States. So this begs the question, why do you have a LAM on your rifle?

              Also, aside from legit ways to buy shit, there are numerous US bases in Europe and things tend to fall off trucks (or are just lost/written off) regularly.
              Funnily enough, the easiest and cheapest way to get your hands on NODs and full power LAMs in Europistan are airsofters, the larpy kind who always goes the extra mile to get legit shit.
              Unfortunately you have to know where to look and things for sale only pop up so often and get snatched fast.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The reason Europeans don't own firearms isn't because they can't per se but because the process of owning one is so unenjoyable compared to in America that it discourages people from trying
      This much is true. My experience is a lot better than what you listed and it's still complete ass at times (does vary heavily between countries)

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Austria is laughing in "you only need for the 88 mm flak a loicence" at this nonsense. cucks.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Austria is better than most, but still restrictive. You need to get lawyers involved to own multiple guns in many cases and you cannot own a pump shotgun whatsoever.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Seriously?
          This is illegal in Austria?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Yes. Looks like as of 1994 due to some shithead 1 off mass shooter.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          That's Australia dummy

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >The reason Europeans don't own firearms isn't because they can't per se but because the process of owning one is so unenjoyable
      this one is true, but on the flip side, people who are willing to get the loicense anyway are really into guns. Ive made lots of good friends in my club so thats something nice i guess.
      The thing i envy Americans is that you guys can go shoot wherever you want. Here, shooting outside of a proper range is a no-no.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The thing i envy Americans is that you guys can go shoot wherever you want. Here, shooting outside of a proper range is a no-no.
        There are some rules about that.
        Mostly it regards being within city limits.
        Out on federal land or rural private property shooting is fine, but obviously the authorities will be upset (but nt shocked) with an impromptu outdoor shooting range on Lake Shore Dr. in the middle Chicago.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          > obviously the authorities will be upset (but nt shocked) with an impromptu outdoor shooting range on Lake Shore Dr. in the middle Chicago.
          Unless you’re a, uh, “disadvantaged youth”

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >The thing i envy Americans is that you guys can go shoot wherever you want. Here, shooting outside of a proper range is a no-no.
        You can do it in some countries if you own land. Until 2019 it was actually pretty lax in Finland, you just had to inform the cops that you're shooting somewhere regularly if you kept it under 10,000 rounds a year. Now it costs tens of thousands of € to build such a range. They're strangling the hobby using ecofascism as an excuse, nothing new but it gets worse by the year

  5. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    i don't think about europe much at all. the more civilized parts of europe (germany, france, etc) are pretty strict and those are the only parts of europe that matter.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >i don't think about europe much at all. the more civilized parts of europe (germany, france, etc) are pretty strict and those are the only parts of europe that matter.
      France is way less strict than California or New York or many other US states anon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >"military rounds" require sport shooting license
        >semi auto require sport shooting license
        > bolt/lever action require hunting license
        > need approval for rifles shotgund, or more than 3 rounds in a mag
        >no carrying ANY weapon without "exceptional risk to life" and limited to 1 year and 50 rounds
        >better than ANY state
        I hate you lying fricks so goddamn much, it's bad enough you flip flop between unarmed serfs and "just as good" gun rights depending on which b***h fit you're throwing about Americans at the time but then you follow it up with a complete lack of knowledge on the subject yet still deliver it with all the arrogance of a smug moron in the 1800's claiming the backwater upstarts in America will collapse any day now.

  6. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because we so rarely think about you.

  7. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >all of Europe is like Britain
    I thought Britain was Europe. Now I'm confused. Where the frick do they keep France ..?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Regulation of firearms translates as selling out to a FED in the eyes of an American. So when the vast majority of Europe requires loicenses or another form of registration it is definitively noguns. Even though Europe, Britain included, can actually enjoy some minor liberties of firearm ownership that the average American cannot such as the commonly parroted unregulated silencer or high capacity magazines. Want a SPAS-12 with a silencer? You can in Europe as long as you are willing to sign your name to it.

      Britain has Texas syndrome so being part of a continent is incomprehensible to the average bong. While Europeans on the other hand are so embarrassed to have Britain lumped in with them that they actively ignore and pretend they are a completely separate thing entirely. So as far as both party's are concerned Britain is not European (even though they actually are).

      >because your complete lack of gun culture means your club options are typically limited to boomer who see an AR-15 as unnecessary,
      quite the opposite my fellow hamburger. Many gun clubs are populated with zoomers with FOG patches and suppressed ar15s. On the other hand boomers tend to shoot ipsc and could beat you up.
      so in general i think fudd-to-goon ratio is much better in eu

      This. Post pandemic there have been so many fricking zoomers at my local range wanting consoomer grade operator LARP .22lr AR or AK skinned 10/22s.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >minor liberties
        > high capacity magazines and regulated silencers

        But no semi auto centerfire rifles,handguns and you need a loicense and can’t carry (unless you live in certain exempt territories) damn this some pathetic bong cope delusions also we have easy access to high capacity mags if you’re not in a cuck state I know suppressors are hard to get but but only as difficult as it would be to get a regular gun in bong land

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Why do you think I said "minor liberties"? I was not saying bong or euro gun legislation was superior. Only that there are caveats.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Well the high capacity one is bs because we can have them and also bong land has a to make you register any shotgun with more than three rounds in same category as a rifle that is harder to get

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >has a to make you register any shotgun with more than three rounds in same category
              Nice grammar, truly America's finest. High capacity is not bullshit and the difficulty of getting an FAC is overstated.

              Euros will never be accepted on this board
              In America we just make guns inside our house with no license or permit or permission needed
              It's based, no other country allows this
              Also most states you can just buy a gun in cash with no background check or registration or licensing, private purchases are based

              https://i.imgur.com/hyVZ8XC.jpg

              Seethe euro scum

              I would say something but I prefer you to spend money on backyard gun CAD work than fursuits and anthro body pillows so you do you. But really you should subsist on something other than attracting negative attention on an image board. All you seem to do is piss people off in whichever thread you decide to slide in.

              • 1 month ago
                [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

                >I would say something but I prefer you to spend money on backyard gun CAD work than fursuits and anthro body pillows so you do you
                I don't have a fursuit or body pillow
                Post your gunsmithing

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You do. You posted a pic of a pillow while sperging on a gun camo thread iirc. It was through a night vison optic.

              • 1 month ago
                [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

                That's not my body pillow, I know other furries irl bro, were like weebs, weebs know other weebs irl and meet up with them

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >That's not my body pillow
                Sure man. Sure.

              • 1 month ago
                [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

                >coping about a 70 dollar pillow
                You should be more worried about my 1700 dollar eotech plus magnifier combo, or the 2000 dollar rifle it's on, or the night vision
                Or all my custom gunsmithing tools that I designed and made

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >lies about not having pillow
                >gets caught posting a pillow
                >says its not their pillow
                >now says they know how much that pillow is
                >says nervously throws out "cope" and you should be more worried"
                Either way good on you for having an impressive gun/nod collection. But just own up to your shit without digging a hole man.

              • 1 month ago
                [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

                >gets caught posting a pillow
                >gets caught
                Uhh bro I know what images I've taken and posted
                There's a pic of me holding the pillow in my left arm, who do you think took the pic?

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                The one I saw was the pillow upright without being held.

              • 1 month ago
                [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

                Then you ain't lookin

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Possibly misremembered. But I recall it resting against a wall next to a rifle on the floor or something like that.

              • 1 month ago
                [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

                That photo does exist, how is that relevant to who owns the pillow
                This is getting off topic, post some guns or the mods ain't gonna be happy

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No one gives a shit about your Black person-rich spending habits, any NEET can afford NODs and an AR with decent optics given enough time to collect neetbuxx, the fact remains you're a mentally ill cretin desperate for validation.

              • 1 month ago
                [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

                Ok so post yours
                Also any neet owns a garage with tig welders presses plasma cutters drill presses mig welders and welding tables too right?
                Go ahead bro, show us what you got, wow us

              • 1 month ago
                [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

                Noticing this dude never posted his gunsmithing works

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                That's not my body pillow, I know other furries irl bro, were like weebs, weebs know other weebs irl and meet up with them

                >coping about a 70 dollar pillow
                You should be more worried about my 1700 dollar eotech plus magnifier combo, or the 2000 dollar rifle it's on, or the night vision
                Or all my custom gunsmithing tools that I designed and made

                >gets caught posting a pillow
                >gets caught
                Uhh bro I know what images I've taken and posted
                There's a pic of me holding the pillow in my left arm, who do you think took the pic?

                https://i.imgur.com/aX6IWoA.jpg

                That photo does exist, how is that relevant to who owns the pillow
                This is getting off topic, post some guns or the mods ain't gonna be happy

                Just showing how easy it is for you to lie to safe face when originally I was just pointing out you had a productive hobby which I appreciated seeing. Have a nice day.

              • 1 month ago
                [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

                What proof do you have that a lie has occurred?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >While Europeans on the other hand are so embarrassed to have Britain lumped in with them that they actively ignore and pretend they are a completely separate thing entirely.
        Brits and Germans would be a lot more tolerable if they weren't anti-liberty in all its forms and willing to cuck to any tyrannical measure devised

  8. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Its not even about the guns really, its a foundational thing, like the whole mentality of it. Guns are a right for Americans, for leisure but also defense of life and liberty. This is just not the case for euros, and they dont have a problem with that, disgustingly. I think most Americans are tacitly aware that most places in Europe allow you circumstantially to own some guns and there are a couple of places that are reasonably loose by cali standards, but thats kinda missing the point. The whole licensing thing means its not ownership, its a rental from the state. Every time this topic comes up, theres always some euros that say "um ackshully if I give up my firstborn and submit to mandatory penis inspections I can have the fragile privilege of owning a bolt action so my country isnt actually noguns" and that just speaks volumes of how little they get it. Its just an cultural gulf that cant be crossed, either you get it intuitively (and many do, Ive met a surprising number of bongs and Australians that migrated just because of the guns) or you dont.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      it's quite similar to how we think about burgers going bankrupt from the medical cost of getting a cold

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Imagine bragging about taxes. Euros are a slave race and no American will ever respect you.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Everybody with a real job has health benefits

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >everyone with a job pays out the ass for private insurance that will still leave you with a significant bill if you have the audacity to use it
          eurocucks owned!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >going to the doctor for a cold
        Do yuros really

  9. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    It's just a spot of bantz

  10. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The whole ordear of needing a loicense for a gun is moronic, but I love the fact that you can just get a can of any kind without the israelite stamp or wait/transfer time. Some Euro countries have it kinda based, but the craziness with "magazine capacity" and such has been taking a foothold over the last few years.

  11. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The real issue is you stupid gays keep insisting its fine or you're just like US when clearly it's not, you aren't, and actually you're a dumb homosexual please shut the frick up when you talk to a superior race of men.

  12. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I will NEVER understand the Amerifats' obsession with owning as many infant-killing firearms as possible. I only have a single bolt action rifle, and that's all I need.
    >b-but muh self-defense!!
    Your obesity is a bigger threat to you than anything you can shoot.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I will NEVER understand
      no you wont eurocuck

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        your weight begins with a 3 and your height a 5

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >even when larping as a European, the burger can't keep himself from using imperial measurements
          Confirmed bait.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            don't try to pretend you would have understood what I meant if I didn't use your nonsensical measurements, mutt

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Cool damage control but you're not fooling anyone.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >thinly veiled attempt at getting me to dox myself
                watching you struggle is amusing to me, please keep replying

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No (You)s until you come up with a funnier cope.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                You already tipped your hand moron-kun

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        aaaah, prease-e don't shoote me, dilbelt-sama!

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      7/10 if bait.
      have a nice day if you're actually a Euro.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      May hordes of mostly peaceful Muslims come your way.

  13. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Why are Europeans obsessed with America?

  14. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >stupid americans, don't you know we can own guns too?
    Yeah, mostly with draconian licensing laws in which many countries may require you to be a member of a shooting club, and that's a toss up because your complete lack of gun culture means your club options are typically limited to boomer who see an AR-15 as unnecessary,
    >oh but anon, I don't live in such a country! I live in <x>
    Very nice, now let's hear about those storage laws and limitations on how much ammo you're allowed to purchase in a single month
    >don't you see, anon, I'm unaffected by that!
    That's awesome anon, now where can you shoot your guns?
    >well, there's this uhh government-owned range but they don't allow me to have any sort of fun
    What about a local range that's owned by a club?
    >err, well, it's just for boomers shooting clays and they don't allow me to wear my plate carrier
    That sucks, anon, I hope one day you'll be able to enjoy that 80% of the land around you is completely legal to shoot on with impunity like I do
    >...but I can have suppressors without a stamp
    I can own machine guns

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >complete lack of gun culture
      That actually depends on your country, as the Swiss, Czechs and Austrians have something that could be called gun culture
      I actually hate how Finland has a sort of hunting and marksmanship culture but no real gun culture whatsoever, so our gun owners will cuck to anything as long as their bolt actions and .22LRs and over-unders aren't banned

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >because your complete lack of gun culture means your club options are typically limited to boomer who see an AR-15 as unnecessary,
      quite the opposite my fellow hamburger. Many gun clubs are populated with zoomers with FOG patches and suppressed ar15s. On the other hand boomers tend to shoot ipsc and could beat you up.
      so in general i think fudd-to-goon ratio is much better in eu

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >club options are typically limited to boomer who see an AR-15 as unnecessary
      in Poland, fudds stay in hunting clubs, diffrent world. Sport/collector clubs (most popular way to own basically any gun) are almost total opposite. IPSC and IDPA are absolute craze, basically everyone at least try some.
      Also lots of larpers, but in a cool way.

      >Very nice, now let's hear about those storage laws and limitations on how much ammo you're allowed to purchase in a single month
      i need a safe (or designated safe room), true, but i can buy as much ammo as i can afford.

      >That's awesome anon, now where can you shoot your guns?
      Only ranges, true. There more and more of these though. Also if you can afford it, its not that hard to open your own. Hardest part is to find good spot without people around so they wont b***h about noise.

      >What about a local range that's owned by a club?
      Usually great.

      >I can own machine guns
      one of the benefits of opening a range (or being professional instructor and having a company providing training) is the ability to own machineguns. My club has several, from scorpions, ar9, ar15, aks, to mg42.

  15. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    The europoors took refuge on the board when their turd world neighbors starting fighting again, and they seem to think they’re welcome here.
    Friendly reminder only based that based swissanon and finnbros are welcome here. Anyone else can return to their europoor containment threads to be promptly filtered.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Please stop acting like turd-world morons aren't desperately wanted gone by the common man of the European nations.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Not most of the electorate, that's for sure
        And I say this as a European

  16. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    same reason why everyone in the midwest thinks california is just one big los angeles and everyone there is a stereotypical lib

  17. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do so many Americans believe Euros can't own guns? Do they think all of Europe is like Britain?
    Basically the Bongs assumed all their mindless shit was Europes fault and projected it when it was their own and this place is english speaking Not that all of Europe is great, the therlands is new york, the UK is a slave state where gun contol is straight out of dystopian nightmare but a lot of places are pretty ok on handguns and CF semis like the swiss and French and Poles and Czechs etc pretty much anywhere in Europe is fine with regular bolt action mil surp and in the UK its a terrorist offense tier thing only gun dealers and the royal family can have

  18. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because I have a friend in France and he basically tells me almost daily the amount of hoops and other legal bullshit he has to jump through just to even get something as basic as a damn bolt action rifle tells me your continent is royally fricked with gun laws. Also if I am being honest the amount of shit you need to do if I had to do here I would have never gotten into firearms. The process for me buying something like a Steyr AUG is having the money or financing it with Credova (lmao please don't do this my fellow burger anons) and filling out a 4473 if its at a physical gun store. Or if I am buying online sending it to an FFL, paying like $20-30 for their FFL fee and filling out the 4473 form. Also if you have a DD 214, valid military ID, or are part of a shooting club you can buy M1 Garands and get them shipped straight to your door bypassing the whole 4473 process. Can you, Euro, get a firearm shipped straight to your door?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Oh I also forgot to mention 80% builds. You can basically build whatever you want at home as long as it abides by state and federal laws at home.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >almost daily the amount of hoops and other legal bullshit he has to jump through just to even get something as basic as a damn bolt action rifle
      hahahahahahahah
      that's so fricking easy in france
      you go sign up for a hunting license takes you two weekend courses and is so chill people form other countries come and take it in french because theirs is much harder.
      Go talk to a doctor that confirms you aren't a danger to yourself or others and this can be you regular doctor or any other doctor.
      You now get a vault and boom you can have shotguns, bolt actions and semi autos.
      your friend is a moron or lying, probably both

      But I do agree that having to get a license does filter out impulse, low effort and low IQ buyers.
      And while not fun to deal with, if you can manage to get a drivers license, finance a car and get insurance you can get a guns.

      >Can you, Euro, get a firearm shipped straight to your door?
      yes, it's direct delivery or buying it at a store.
      They can't leave the package tough so you have to be there or it get's taken back to the point of sale that sent it.
      But I've had ammo that I ordered delivered while I wasn't home and simply picked it up at the post.
      what show is the bikini gayu from, I need to know for erm reasons

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        > that's so fricking easy in france
        Sounds like a lot more hoops to jump through than
        >go to store
        >pay money
        >get gun

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          yes, it's more hoops
          but if you can get a driving license you can get a gun.
          I like how relaxed the USA is with guns, the ease of just taking your gun across state lines without paperwork ect.
          Going hunting in Poland takes me trip to the embassy, a waiting period, a handling fee and then the hassle with the airliner and airport.
          But I don't really mind the few hoops I had and have to go trough because it keeps most morons and spergs out.
          Less kids being shot because daddy impulse bought a 9mm because there was a robbery a few miles away, put it in the night stand loaded and then forgot about it.
          Both have their appeal to me.
          i understand that is very easy to go and go usa #1 freedom baby. But its also usa #1 child of eight shot sibling because daddy left his impulse purchase loaded and accessible.

          I’m curious.
          Does ANY European country allow concealed carry by members of the public (not police, security guards, politicians etc just regular dudes)?

          Czech republic is very chill with CC. Some other eastern Euro ones maybe, idk.
          Personally I don't feel the need to CC and part of my job is kicking people out of their homes in some of the "best" parts of Brussels.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >We have cucked gun laws, but its okay because some government official put out a study saying its for our own good and can at anytime take away our firearms
            >HA! Take that, stupid Americans!

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Both have their appeal to me.
            >i understand that is very easy to go and go usa #1 freedom baby. But its also usa #1 child of eight shot sibling because daddy left his impulse purchase loaded and accessible.
            Americans, this kind of person is what we have to contend with. Like even many black rifle owners will think black rifles are for me and not for thee because you're a fricking incel terrorist and I'm an innocent sport shooter. I lived through a childhood where my friends' dads left their shotguns and ammo lying around wherever during hunting season and nobody died

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Bro its so easy, just do all of this bullshit and you'll eventually (maybe) have a firearm!
        vs
        >I want this gun, fill out form, wait 10 min, go home with said gun

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >We have cucked gun laws, but its okay because some government official put out a study saying its for our own good and can at anytime take away our firearms
          >HA! Take that, stupid Americans!

          0/10 get better bait

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Okay challenge time. You get someone in your country who currently does not own a firearm to get into owning firearms and I'll do that also. I am willing to bet I'll be done by lunch and your person still doesn't have a firearm by the time summer is here.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              yes, you can get a firearm faster
              that's not even a contest and I'm not even disputing that
              but it's not unubtanium, I got mine in less than a month (although I had some luck with dates lining up for courses and the hunting exam in france).
              Took me less time in all than getting my drivers license and cost a lot less even with safe and my first gun.

              And while you can purity spiral about firearm access until can get a maxim gun from a vending machine. I don't think that would be better for society as a whole.
              Living together involves giving in a degree of freedom.

              We could also go and talk about how speed limits limit freedom.
              How if your country has road safety laws you live in a cuck slave state.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >And while you can purity spiral about firearm access until can get a maxim gun from a vending machine. I don't think that would be better for society as a whole.
                >Living together involves giving in a degree of freedom.
                This kind of thinking is why we will never have rights. I mean I have friends who own guns who don't really give a shit if their guns get banned or welcome new restrictions because "now bad people can't get guns as easily". Like Black person, you really think Ahmed has the patience, IQ or language skills to sit a written hunting test? If he does he's more likely to just hunt ducks like the rest of them.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                No, I want laxer gun laws
                but I also don't think that complete freedom would do society any good.
                Not because I fear school shootings, achmet getting a full auto (I mean he just buys it from his deal friends).
                But because the flip side of impulse buying, suicide and accidents.
                The leading cause of gun deaths in the USA is suicide, then accidents, then shootings.
                This is why i think there should be a bit of impulse control, not as much as there is now.
                Get a few easy hoops to get your first gun, get a few basic tests to make sure I'm nor a moron and know how to handle a gun safely. Then frick off and let me do as I want, own what ever firearm I want and how many I want.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Just give people easier access to painless suicide and leave the gun owners alone
                Not my fricking problem

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                >but I also don't think that complete freedom would do society any good.
                You're an absolute homosexual and objectively a very evil person to the core. Like unironically a piece of shit. I'd spit in your homosexual face if you said this to me IRL.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            yes, you can get a firearm faster
            that's not even a contest and I'm not even disputing that
            but it's not unubtanium, I got mine in less than a month (although I had some luck with dates lining up for courses and the hunting exam in france).
            Took me less time in all than getting my drivers license and cost a lot less even with safe and my first gun.

            And while you can purity spiral about firearm access until can get a maxim gun from a vending machine. I don't think that would be better for society as a whole.
            Living together involves giving in a degree of freedom.

            We could also go and talk about how speed limits limit freedom.
            How if your country has road safety laws you live in a cuck slave state.

            You're absolutely cucked and coping hard holy frick.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Ah but you can't buy suppressors that get clapped out after a hundred rounds

          FRICKING AMERIFATS XDDDDD

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >doesn't mention the shotgun can't be rifled and the "semi auto rifle" can't use military rounds or have 3+ capacity
        Fricking lying c**t frog

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          I didn't say anything about how french law limits what guns you can't have, just how to get guns.
          I'm not a frog I just got my hunting license there because it's easier.
          If you want those here are the requirements in English
          https://www.service-public.fr/particuliers/vosdroits/F2250?lang=en
          tldr, get a clear bill of health, join the shooting organization, don't be a sperg, have gun vault
          honestly if you can't get this then its a you problem an not a law problem

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Go talk to a doctor
        what the frick is wrong with you morons

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >having a quick chat with someone to make sure you aren't a raging lunatic when you get your first gun
          it's almost like the concept of mental health care is alien to burgers. Preferring instead to let their mentally deranged form tent camps in their major cities. So they can have designated shitting streets next to the designated injection streets

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Can you, Euro, get a firearm shipped straight to your door?
      Funny thing but the cops here hate delivery methods that aren't "straight to your door". Like I want to get guns and ammo delivered to the local parcel office (because I have to work by day and can then pick up my shit later) but the cops keep pestering the delivery companies only to offer direct deliveries because it's muh safer.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Can you, Euro, get a firearm shipped straight to your door?
      At least in scandi-land where I live firearms are normally shipped as high-value parcels, meaning that you have to pick up up at the local post office and show the clerk ID.
      Firearms should also be sent partially disassembled, typically this means sending the firearm with one critical component (usually the bolt) removed, and shipping the critical component separately. This is just so thieves won't get a complete working gun if they steal a package they have reason to believe contains a gun.

      Some retailers are a bit fast and loose with this kind of shit. For example ammo is supposed to be shipped as hazardous/flammable goods in an expensive and complicated process.
      But I ordered a crate of commie-surplus 7.62x39 ammo from a small company specializing in selling "tactical"-style firearms and accessories. I expected I'd have to pick it up at the post office and show ID and such, but the crate just showed up at my doorstep one day.
      The BASED retailer had labeled and shipped it as "sporting equipment".
      That was probably illegal of them to do, but I was grateful because they saved me like $60 on shipping.
      I've been a loyal customer ever since.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >Can you, Euro, get a firearm shipped straight to your door?
      I'm not a Euro, I'm a leaf, but not being able to have (the vast majority of) guns shipped to your door is an America thing. In Canada they're sold online and shipped to your door the same way as a book from Amazon

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Once when I was picking up a Russian capture k98, they had the wrong one ready, so they just sent the correct one in a box by post.
        Mom picked it up at the post office while I was at work. 'WTF Anon there was a rifle in the package?'

  19. 1 month ago
    Anonymous
  20. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >ITT Americans spazzing out over Euros living in safe and sane countries which have the modicum of common sense to ban and license dangerous things because that's what the democratic mandate for a government is, be it guns, cars, dangerous chemicals and drugs, unsafe work environments, all of it

    >Continue to keep spazzing out and call euros slaves for living in the most liveable and safe countries on the planet from a Black personized shithole with daily shootings because admitting their ideology is wrong is beyond the AmeriBlack person

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Dangerous freedom > peaceful slavery

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      have a nice day soibrain.
      t. Euro

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      You could give a free AR-15 and a crate of ammo to every White American and crime would barely have a bump.
      We all know what the REAL problem is, but this is a blue board.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >Czech Republic
        >1.8 firearm deaths per 100k

        Nonsense, even TOTAL homicides per 100,000 weren't over 1 in like 15 years.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Black Americans are still American, own it

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          is my dog an American too?

  21. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Is this a warriortard thread ? I can't be bothered to read the whole thing.

  22. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I’m curious.
    Does ANY European country allow concealed carry by members of the public (not police, security guards, politicians etc just regular dudes)?

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Poland requires you to CC.
      >Firearms for sporting purposes can be carried loaded, in a holster or case, as close to the body as possible and in a manner as inconspicuous as possible.
      There are a handful places where you are not allowed to carry, like courts, but other than that, no problemo.
      I am currently looking for some nice small gun (thinking about hellcat or p10s), because my shadow 2 is not a great carry.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      If you have been a victim of a violent crime and there's a police record of it, you can use it as a reason for requesting a carry permit. Problem is that most people who want to carry don't know this and file a claim, which then gets instantly rejected and they give up on ever getting a carry licence. The other issue with carry permits is that the police can revoke them at any moment if they decide that you're life is no longer in danger and if they do revoke your licence, there's no chance of getting it back, at least I don't know a single case, where a revoked carry permit got re-issued. Same goes for rejected claims, if your claim gets rejected once, they won't grant you a permit a second time, even if there's a legit justification for granting one, because they'll think that there's a shady reason behind your desperation of getting a cc permit and further claims get yeeted automatically.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        So you need to already have been a fricking victim of a crime to have the thing to prevent the crime? Amazing.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          It's moronic but you could always be like Finland
          >1997
          >foreign criminal executes two cops during a robbery
          >massive uproar
          >result: legal CC banned forever
          I just don't know how the leftist mind works, and I used to be a lefty as a teenager myself

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I have a colleague who successfully both challenged a refusal to grant and then the repeal of his CC license.
        He is in a legal profession, has masters in law and performs what can be called a high risk profession.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Estonia is one of them. An ownership license is also considered a concealed carry license there

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        based country

        • 1 month ago
          [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

          >needing a license to own a gun
          >based
          I do not believe you know the meaning of this term

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Neat. Estonia seems like a pretty nice country. They have a sexy flag too

  23. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Do they think all of Europe is like Britain
    In fact, yes they do. It's like with Latin America and how Americans think all of Latin America is ither Mexico, Colombia or Cuba.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      They might as well be

      Well, except for Brazilian women having fat asses. That’s the only meaningful difference.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I know you're American because you think only the Brazilians have fat asses.

  24. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I bought this at the local Gunsmoke (one of four in my town of some 8,000 souls) with no license, no registration and no waiting period.
    Can ANY europoor say this?

  25. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Do they think all of Europe is like Britain?
    Yes.

  26. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Do they think all of Europe is like Britain?
    Unironically yes. Because the UK is one of only two English-speaking countries in Europe, Americans tend to only get information on Europe through the lens of the UK.

  27. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Americans
    > Our bill of rights says we have a right to bear arms (as part of a well-regulated militia, but ignore that part)
    "It's illegal to require regulation for owning guns!"

    Same Americans
    > Constitution guarantees right to vote
    "You need a license to vote!"

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The militia in the US is any able-bodied male aged 18-45. Try harder.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        poor reading comprehension

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Same Americans
          > Constitution guarantees right to vote
          "You need a license to vote!"

          Yes, for American citizens. So I fail to understand your comment. Would Italy allow, let say some random Polish guy vote in their elections? I highly doubt it.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I just want some consistency, either direction is fine.
      Either you need photo ID for both purchasing a gun and voting, or you don’t need it for either.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Nope.
        Elections must be secure and so must liberty.
        Unregistered guns limitless.
        Voter registration.

        American chuds hit the "militia" part and their brains resort to regurgitating talking points instead of reading

        [...]
        only person with a brain

        I love being a Chud. I even got the closest glasses I could find to the meme.
        >Anyone who doesn't agree with me just isn't reading it right!
        No, I understood, I just think you're a dipshit.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >(as part of a well-regulated militia, but ignore that part)
      Completely incorrect. It's been established to death that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to keep and bear arms. Every other right in the Bill of Rights pertains to individuals? Why would the Second Amendment be any different? The founding fathers who wrote the bill of rights had just fought a war against a tyrannical state military/militia. Why would they seek to empower the very thing they fought against? They understood that a standing military is necessary to protect the nation from foreign threats. But they also knew that a standing military could be used and abused by a potential despot. If the Second Amendment were written today, it would probably be worded in a similar way to the Alaska state right to bear arms:

      "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The individual right to keep and bear arms shall not be denied or infringed by the State or a political subdivision of the State."

      Sincerely,
      Australian /k/ommando.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        can you people even read?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          >(as part of a well-regulated militia, but ignore that part)

          I know it's hard to admit you're getting b***hed but it happens even to the best of us. Bow out fella

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Not him but what is even your fricking point?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            You have the bravado and poor reading comprehension I've come to expect of an American

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          You have the bravado and poor reading comprehension I've come to expect of an American

          There is no mistake at all. You implied that the 2nd Amendment only applies to those serving in a militia. This is completely and utterly false by both historical and legal metrics.

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            > This is completely and utterly false
            And even if it wasn’t, and 2A did only apply to the militia, everyone above the age of 18 is a part of the militia. Therefore the 2A applies to everyone.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Everyone is a part of the militia. Try again.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Disregard. I am a moron who misclicked. I meant

          Americans
          > Our bill of rights says we have a right to bear arms (as part of a well-regulated militia, but ignore that part)
          "It's illegal to require regulation for owning guns!"

          Same Americans
          > Constitution guarantees right to vote
          "You need a license to vote!"

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            No worries, mate.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      "Well-regulated" in 18th century parlance means "properly equipped" not "drowned in bureaucracy and in service to the feds".
      Available arms prevents greater tyranny, hence leftist oppositiontotheidea.
      Keeping elections secure with a FREE registration card makes fraud more difficult, hence leftist opposition to the idea.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        American chuds hit the "militia" part and their brains resort to regurgitating talking points instead of reading

        I just want some consistency, either direction is fine.
        Either you need photo ID for both purchasing a gun and voting, or you don’t need it for either.

        only person with a brain

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      but anon you need proof of citizenship for both

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Isn't the meaning of "well regulated militia" related to the Swiss constitution where over there refers to "well trained, able-bodied population"? It doesn't say anything about you having to join the military.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >(as part of a well-regulated militia, but ignore that part)
      That part does not exist. The right to keep and bear arms is for the people, not the militia. This is not even up for debate as more than 200 years of law uphold this fact, not to mention multiple explicit court rulings which state the right to keep and bear arms is an individual right independent of militia membership.

      Cry about it in hell Eurogay.

  28. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    But a euro can just come visit america and buy guns

  29. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I know in most European countries you can own guns with a license. And if you compare the most gun restrictive states to most European coubtries it probably looks like a close comparison to you but the US isn't just California, most states aren't like that though. I can own a gun without a license, and I can even make my own guns legally without a license. There is a growing movement here (still small tough) to repeal the NFA, GCA and Gun owners protection act, which would make even things like sbr's, silencers and machine guns legal without a tax stamp. I can legally carry any weapon in my state without a license and defend my life and property with it. Having checked there is no other country where that is legal.
    There are places that are more restrictive, but no where on earth that has as much inrestricted garunteed rights to gun ownership and use as the US.
    Although I ubderstand Switzerland is pretty good and if I for whatever reason had to live in Europe I would probably pick Switzerland but it's still not as free as a progun state in the US.
    Where I live there is no caliber restriction, no weapon restriction at the state level and I have a garunteed right to self defense explicitly a garuntee to not be prosecuted in a legitimate self defense shooting which is also legally defined. I can carry any weapon and those weapons do not require a license or tracking by the governnent. I am protected by state law from federal law and my state made it illegal for local law enforcement to comply with the ATF. Any weapon made here even NFA weapons ae legal to manufacture and posses with out a license at a state level (bypassing the interstate commerce clause but no manufacturer has tried it yet unfortunately). In my research there is no other country on earth that allows this level of freedom.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      > Gun owners protection act
      Assuming you mean FOPA, the no. Absolutely not. That would be a goddamn terrible idea.

  30. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Europe is completely irrelevant and Americans never think about the dead continent unless something involving Legos or birkenstocks come up.

    >t. I'm General George Washington

  31. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Euros own safe queens and get the opportunity to shoot their shit at very controlled ranges a couple times a year. They're like collector gays but instead of making the choice to be insufferable they're forced to do so.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Don't post bullshit like this
      The only reason my guns haven't gotten enough fresh air lately is Baldur's Gate 3

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Suuuure. At least you can find time to post picture and seethe bait in the interim between the bi-yearly paper shooting ventures.

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          My range is an outdoor one and half an hour away so in midwinter it's dark by the time I get there after work
          You can shitpost in the darkness too

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >Forced to go to highly regulated range
            Tragic

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              >highly regulated
              It's a military range so all I have to do is call in that I'm in the area so the MPs know I'm there. Otherwise there's nobody around unless there's a military exercise or other hobbyists. God knows I'd like to shoot in the nearest forest but that's like the only thing my country isn't Socialist about

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                If I want to shoot I just set up targets in my backyard or drive 10 minutes out into the woods.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                See, I've seen people do that here too but they usually live in backwoods and own the land they shoot on. I bought a pistol from a guy who would shoot it at targets in his front yard and tested the FAL I bought in the seller's front yard too

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I literally have a key to the outdoor range that is 35 minutes away
      >the only time I can't go shoot is when they're holding a match which is like 5 times a month

      Bait used to be believable.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        And how many time in a year do you actually go to the cuck range princess?

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          More than you do, what are you gonna do now, post your 16" carbine gas abomination that you totally put 20k rounds through, and never wipe the brass deflector of in fear of strangers online accusing you of not shooting it?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Twice a year? Or maybe you're breaking the mold with 3?

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Not him but I went like 30 times last year
              Can't really go easily apart from weekends due to my work hours

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            >never wipe the brass deflector
            Jesus who bothers with that sort of thing? t. Euro

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              If you have marking on your brass deflector you have weak ejection so the entire point is moronic.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                My only gun with brass marks is a FAL
                The opposite of weak really

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Most references to not wiping brass deflectors on this board are a reference to AR15s

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I dunno, /brg/ advocates it for FALs too. I can't be bovvered because the parkerizing is shit and will probably come off too

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                I don't know shit about FALs but aggressive ejection would be anything at an angle forward of the ejection port.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                FALs slam the brass full force into the dust cover, after which it flies forward into orbit

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Yeah from what I'm reading forward ejection is normal for an FAL and so is marking at all or most gas settings. As long as the pattern is consistent it shouldn't matter. /brg/ is probably making the same incorrect conclusions that I did.

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                It's not but that's because mine has a wobbly gas tube. My friend's FAL has actually had the tube pinned in place for probably the same reason

  32. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Man I wish everyone in Europe had better and more free gun laws like us
    >STOOPID AMERICAN PIGDOG SCHOOL SHOOTINGS GUN LAWS ARE GOOD LOOK AT ALL THE GUNS I CAN OWN YOU WHO CARES WHAT YOU THINK
    Yeah

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Sounds like some seethe if I have ever read any.

  33. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    most europeans can't get a gun licence (nor are they interested in it)
    guns are only for gun ranges and hunting in most of europe

  34. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    you gotta understand that most rules in Eastern Europe are just suggestions. for example, you need a firearm licence to buy ammo, however you can buy ammo directly from a private individual, becase the sale of ammo doesn't have to be reported back to the authorities unlike the sale of firearms. private sellers aren't required to run a background check on you, because they can't, so buying ammo is basically legal.

    there are also stores that sell demilled guns, but they way they were deactivated is quite sloppy and you can put them back to working order with a drill and a dremel. on paper demilled guns are just scrap metal and can be owned freely. the sandBlack folk who shot up that French magazine HQ also used formerly demilled AKs from Eastern Europe which were turned back to live firearms.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >there are also stores that sell demilled guns, but they way they were deactivated is quite sloppy and you can put them back to working order with a drill and a dremel. on paper demilled guns are just scrap metal and can be owned freely. the sandBlack folk who shot up that French magazine HQ also used formerly demilled AKs from Eastern Europe which were turned back to live firearms.
      This is what ruined Euro gun laws forever (although there were going to be more bans anyway, they're not going to let us fight the Great Replacement, are they)

  35. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Becuase Europe’s gun culture outside of hunting and target shooting is incredibly small. There are plenty of Europeans who are ignorant of what guns they can even own in their own countries.
    Also don’t get standard yank opinions from fricking PrepHole(nel) of all places. This place is a cesspool.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Where else would you feign superiority if it weren't for PrepHole?

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I prefer flexing in front of a mirror while trash talking my reflection.

  36. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    >Why do so many Americans believe Euros can't own guns? Do they think all of Europe is like Britain?
    Good question OP, may we see your firearm?

  37. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    British people can own guns, even high powered bolt actions. Can only own 22 ARs though.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      The only thing I like about Bri'ish gun laws is that shotguns (low capacity because Britain) at least are shall issue. That's already a sight better than my shithole, and I say this as someone who owns multiple centerfire semis. Shit, I would have to jump more hoops to get a fricking double barrel than I did for the semis.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      So they can’t really own guns.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I won't begrudge the Brits their rifles and shotguns

  38. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Even some (small) parts of Britain are moregunz than the mainland. You can CC in Northern Ireland, Isle of Man, Jersey. It's England, Scotland and Wales that are cucked.

    Oh and Wales just passed a country wide 20mph speed limit. lmaooooo

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >moregunz than the mainland
      Apart from CC, just no. Pretty much everywhere in Europe allows handguns.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        I meant the mainland UK. And I was specifically referring to CC'ing, don't really care about all the other shit

  39. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Third world education mostly

  40. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    America isnt the Goal, American gun laws are already infinitely too much. So anything PAST America is double infinity homosexualry.

  41. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    dude, no one gives a shit about europe.

  42. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    post guns and your passport homosexual
    you aint got shit

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >you aint got shit

      Cry about it.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        sorry
        i love you

  43. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Yurops can't own guns because yurops aren't people. Only humans qualify for property rights, lower order creatures cannot own anything.

  44. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I bought a full auto ZASTAVA M21 for 700 bucks Americans do not understand our freedom.
    >most boomer gun ranges do not allow full auto fire because they are all fudds shooting m1 carbines

  45. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    in most of europe it's a privilege
    in most of the usa it's a right (tho legally it would be all if courts didnt cuck to local oppressive democracy)
    so there's a difference in attitude and that's why americans laugh at certain continentals being proud of jumping through hoops to pretend to be an upper class hunter

  46. 1 month ago
    [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

    Euros will never be accepted on this board
    In America we just make guns inside our house with no license or permit or permission needed
    It's based, no other country allows this
    Also most states you can just buy a gun in cash with no background check or registration or licensing, private purchases are based

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      No one asked about your opinion furgay.

      • 1 month ago
        [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

        Seethe euro scum

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Your constant mewling for validation is pathetic.

          • 1 month ago
            [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

            I love when ESLs use a dictionary or thesaurus to find words and they're just so out of use and no actual English speakers have used these words in fricking centuries
            Always so easy to spot em

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              T. Actual literal dogfricker trying to shit on everyone else to feel better about his own revolting degenerate self and stave off his inevitable suicide for another day or two

              • 1 month ago
                [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

                >actual literal dogfricker
                Proof?
                I've yet to see any
                I've been on the verge of suicide for.... 15 years now on PrepHole?
                >just 2 more days!
                Good luck bud looool

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Maybe one day you'll give a piece of high prose such as picrel a try and see how full of wonders English really is.
              Still I'm proud of you, it's generally hard to communicate in English when you have Down's and FAS.

              • 1 month ago
                [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

                t. ESL third worlder

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >tripgay
      all I need to know

  47. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I keep my guns at my bedside loaded

  48. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because the best cases in Europe are still on par if not worse than America as far as licensing, regulation, and storage requirements go. There are more European countries like Britain for their gun laws than countries like the Czech Republic. Even Switzerland which is notorious for some very solid gun laws still has a lot left to be desired especially recently as many cantons have been shifting anti-gun.
    t. Europoor living in the US.

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      https://www.frankonia.de/schiesssport/langwaffen/Artikel.html

      you cant buy man of those in states like california but you can in germany a notorious gun unfriendly land

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >as many cantons have been shifting anti-gun.
      With 40% of the population being immigrants nationwide I'm not quite sure what the Swiss expected
      I want based pro-gun immigrants like Vietnamese but keep getting Nigels and Ahmed

  49. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Even in the gun friendly You're-a-peein' countries, you still have to obtain loicense to own, and another loicense to carry, IF you can carry.
    Regs on how you can store firearms, etc.

    In my state, one could legally do the following:
    >turn 18
    >go to gunstore, legally buy Barrett .50BMG and AR-15
    >also obtain 100 round drum and fill it with M855 cuz why not?
    >leave with said rifles in less than 30 minutes if you don't stick around to bullshit with the guys
    >walk outside
    >meet stranger from Armslist to buy Glock with 33 round stick mag
    >hand him cash, no bill of sale or background check required
    >put said Glock on your hip, open or concealed, doesn't matter
    >leave aforementioned loaded AR-15 in your passenger seat, and Barrett in your open truck bed
    >go to McDonalds and enjoy burger, God, and freedom, knowing you can't get red flagged
    >go home, start blasting rounds into the dirt for funnies, and the worst that will happen is a cop will tell you to quit before it gets dark so people can sleep

    Some of you Euros have *decent* gun laws, but they'll always be far too Draconian for an American to stomach

  50. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Hello Eurofrens, burger here. I know you're getting a bit of a ribbing in this thread for being Euros but I've been there a few times and I think you're pretty cool 🙂

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      all in good humor you should see what we say about each other when you guys aren't looking
      I mean we did start the biggest wars ever

  51. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Anon, a lot of rural and flyover morons in this country unironically worship a new york real estate mogul and consider him some kind of working man's hero. Are you really surprised that many Americans have such uninformed views on Europe?

    Barely half the country knows what a passport is, let alone owning one.

    • 1 month ago
      [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

      [...]

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        Case in point. Even the mildest slight at dear leader immediately has them howling in pain and feeling attacked kek.

  52. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    I don't think about you people at all, OP

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      >I don't think
      We know mutt, trust me we know.

      • 1 month ago
        [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

        Beg for more military equipment in another thread please

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          t. miguel hernandez.

          • 1 month ago
            [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

            Uhm no

            >newly bought things are pristine
            Astute observation dog molester, I'm proud of you.

            Ah, so show us the wear now that they're used

  53. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    stop feeding the namegay
    he's here because he wants attention and "fame" because he can't get it IRL

    • 1 month ago
      [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

      I've never had a credit card in my entire life

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        well they don't them to subhumans like you so it figures.

        • 1 month ago
          [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

          >you just have a credit card
          >no I don't
          >y-yoyre subhuman!!
          Seethe and mald for me

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            there is a strong correlation between credit unworthiness and being non-white. Stop seething at me please and go be poor elsewhere.

            • 1 month ago
              [PLEBSPOTTERS] BigC

              There's a strong correlation between being noguns and being euro
              Please stop seething and malding at me

              • 1 month ago
                Anonymous

                Lucky for you, you live in a 3rd world shithole, and none of those exist in europe.

                Have no idea why you're crying this bitterly though.

  54. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    We don't think about yuros at all

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I do, sometimes. Well, only about the family I have in the UK. They're real cool and I love how they get annoyed at how I say banana. Oh, and the Ukrainians because the news. Can't help but think about those guys.

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        >I love how they get annoyed at how I say banana
        Explain

  55. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    both bongs and yanks are obsesesed with each other

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      Because the rest of the world is too culturally alien to ever really make sense of, aside from other anglosphere countries that are all just copies with different accents

    • 1 month ago
      Anonymous

      I-it's not like we like you or a-anything baka!

      • 1 month ago
        Anonymous

        no, never

        • 1 month ago
          Anonymous

          Has a colony and former colonial power ever maintained such an amiable relationship?

          • 1 month ago
            Anonymous

            Canada, Australia, and New Zealand. That's about it. Anglos just can't be beat.

            • 1 month ago
              Anonymous

              Anglo pride
              World wide

  56. 1 month ago
    Anonymous

    Because you can't.
    >Do they think all of Europe is like Britain?
    Yes.
    >I-I'm Czech though!
    Nice try homosexual Czechoslovakia doesn't exist
    >I-I'm Swiss!
    I looked up Swedish gun laws and they suck ass, fully Britain-tier don't lie.

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