Why do private citizens buy glocks? Howard Stern, who has hundreds of millions of dollars, has a glock for home and personal protection. So many people buy these shitty, cheap guns. They feel horrible. I understand if you're poor, but why do normal people buy these things?
they simply don't get wrapped up in all the consumerism in the gun industry and see it as purchasing a tool for a job they hope they never have to do.
that's why I own a glock.
Now don't get me wrong, I totally realize it's nothing special. But it's reliable and it gets the job done. It's like asking why people buy Toyota Corollas and F150s. I absolutely do appreciate fine firearms as well, I just don't choose those for carry. Practical guns for practical things, cool guns for range toys, investments, and so on.
People buy Toyota Corollas because they can't afford a better car.
Speak for yourself. I bought one because it just werks. Come to think of it that's why I bought a Glock too. All my surplus money goes into investments.
Maybe I'm a type.
A Porsche Panamera works, too. If you could afford it, you’d buy one.
Maybe you would, but some of us are responsible with our money.
You're quite the responsible dullard
>Practical guns for practical things, cool guns for range toys, investments, and so on.
ugh
>they simply don't get wrapped up in all the consumerism in the gun industry
Are you kidding? I see people with glock stickers on their trucks all the time. They turn owning a glock into a personality, along with having a buzzcut/"viking beard" combo and blasting shitty country music while living in suburbs.
You clearly haven't seen the Sig Legion bros.
Just like the Glockdouches, they'll cope and defend their low quality trash when it fails. But instead of jamming in 60% of videos where it's actually used in a shooting, it shoots when you don't want it to shoot. They'll claim user error, improper holsters, etc when in reality we live in a world where corporations are peddling us cheap plastic trash made in India and assembled by Black folk that doesn't fricking function.
>Glockdouches
>not Glockroaches
I'm a bit disappointed in you
sick personal anecdote bro, you definitely convinced us we're wrong
Well we can't always be right. Long as we're better than before
You are trading it in right?
The worst part is how ugly they are. People have always put a lot of effort into the appearance of weaponry and treating your weapon as just a tool
and getting some ugly piece of shit is peak soulless npc behavior. Whether it's a sword or a knife or a gun, aesthetics should absolutely be one of your secondary concerns. Pic was the first handgun I bought and the appearance was a big selling point.
I like Walthers, mine has a really nice trigger, it's easy to shoot, and it looks pretty good too.
>Glocks
>Not consumerist
The fricking things have become so heavily advertised and ubiquitous that they're becoming a generic name for any handgun.
Is buying Kleenex consumerist just because they have the name recognition, you moron? Consumerism is jumping from trend to trend by buying whatever the newest bestest thing being shilled is, not buying a gun they can trust to go bang, taking it to the range every once in a while, and then forgetting about it 99% of their life.
It's just mass psychosis. I, too, fell for the "glock 19 is the best first EDC pistol" shilling that was common on this board years back.
Glock 19 is the best starter gun is generally accepted as including any reputable midsize 9mm, though there are very good reasons to pick the 19 specifically.
Because they just work and he's not into guns. Basically this
Look, 2011's are probably the premium top of the line right now but they are not as reliable as the simple wonder 9 and if you want a simple wonder 9, Glocks work.
The reality is you've made several threads that are little more than thinly veiled acts of vengeance brought on by your own bitterness. You've actually made me curious what your damage is.
I fricking hate the glock 19, it has absolute garbage ergonomics for anyone who has mansized hands, the glock 45 is far superior
I have pretty big hands and would have to say the Glock 17 fits me the worst as I tend to palm it. The Glock 19 doesn't fit me particularly well. Ironically, both the Glock 20 and Glock 48/43x fit my hand perfectly and shoot great for me. To that point, I can't really criticize a gun broadly for not fitting me perfectly when it may fit someone else just fine.
I shoot them well and have had less issues with them than other guns I've carried.
it looks cool
They don't feel good but they don't feel 'horrible'. I take it you've never had a buddy show you their $200 justasgood pistol. Idk why this has to be so black and white. they will always look cool in a form over function utilitarian way though. Simple as.
no
they're literally the worst looking handguns on the market besides hi points
very subjective. I actually like the blocky look. tapered slides look gay.
Glocks are good guns and like the MP5 the reliable original of their formula
However, adversary companies have already improved the design and offer better alternatives
The only real argument for glocks nowadays are afternarket parts and craving the aesthetic
best grip angle, best holster support, the only thing someone can actually complain about on one is the trigger, which is mediocre but doesn't actually matter
Ackshually the VP9 is a better striker fired polymer pistol
>better ergonomics
>better weight
>better trigger
>better safeties
>better slide weight
as someone who used to have an MP5 issued and recently had it replaced with the MP7 I can tell you why you’re wrong
the MP5 is FRICKHEAVY, reloading can be awkward because lmao no bolt catch/release in 2023, you need non HK aftermarket parts for an optic which loses zero often enough, the cartridge is underpowered and outdated for the MP5s role as a carbine/pdw
the uzi already did alot better, the MP7 pinnacles it by using superior ergonomics and a more adapted cartridge for modern environments
I am also a big fan of grip magwells because you have better hand to hand coordination in low light environments so reloading is alot easier but that’s just me
>paddle mag release
The extended paddles are great, you don't have to adjust grip, which you have to do with a shitty gen 3 Glock that people keep shilling. The VP9 also has an optional button mag release option for homosexual and transgendered gun owners.
weirdly apt comparison with the wrong conclusion, no MP5 competitor or replacement is actually better than the MP5 in every way and a lot of them miss the point entirely. The UMP was an abstract failure, the MPX has considerable continual issues, the SP9A3 has severe reliability issues, the scorpion is at least reliable but has dummy felt recoil, the B&T buffered actions are close but not quite in terms of felt recoil and are reliable but hilariously enough have varying reliability with JHPs just like the MP5s do. If you ignore the memes and actually dig around the argument for modern choices being meaningfully superior to the MP5 just doesnt really hold up.
Glocks are like Toyotas, it’s what you buy if you don’t know what you want or aren’t Particularly passionate about the related hobby, and you want something that just works.
A first time buyer isn’t going to know about trigger pull or hammer vs striker minutia, but they’ll see all the cops and soldiers carrying the same thing and assume it’s a safe bet.
Good enough for western specops with infinite choice and money, good enough for your average sane and rational man. The rest is contrarian cope.
>picrel is just your basic b***h 19 plus some minor adds
literally never in the history of battle has a pistol like this been used to any significant effect
they buy these because they can, not because they're good
>literally never in the history of battle has a pistol like this been used to any significant effect
You should work for the history channel.
Ok but we're not talking about battle, homosexual
A fricking used gen 4 G19 is the answer to all your handgun problems, it's great but also disappointing when you think about it.
Its dumb but back in the days it took me awhile to realize there are tons of other pistols out there that are perfectly reliable. For the public's mind Glocks are the pinacle of reliability and it doesn't go further. Someone who doesn't know shit about guns and wants something that works well he will pick one. Obviously its not a bad choice but maybe they would have been served better by a Walther PDP, Sig365 or whatever.
Reliability over a maximum of 20 rounds is all that counts for SD. Its great if the gun can run 5K without cleaning and 15k without part breakage but it doesn't quite matter for that specific purpose. And most gun owners will hardly ever reach 2-3k on the pistol they shoot the most anyway
I find it rather reassuring, meaning reliability is affordable
You're not a specops, you're an individual. You're choosing a gun for the lowest common denominator, made by the lowest bidder. And your reason is because everybody else is doing it, and you don't even know why. Certified NPC moment
Same reason you buy an AR.
https://www.gtdist.com/products/used-gun-glock-22-gen-4-40-pistol.html
you need more??
>Howard Stern
Why do I give a good goddamn what that hook nose israelite has or does?
baba booey baba booey howard stern's small penis
It's economy grade shit being marketed as premium grade shit. I say this as someone who's forced to carry a Glock and drive a Ford Taurus for work, there are better options than the low bid trash the police use. Them using it is more of an indication that it's bad rather than good. You don't see even the well funded departments walking around with Luago Aliens or even P30s, nor driving BMW patrol cars, it's always just buy whatever the frick is cheap enough yet still works most the time and throw them in it. They don't really think equipment through that much anyway, certainly not as much as internet autists. Their concern is way more heavily focused on legal stuff, guns might be brought up maybe 1% of the time.
>marketed as premium grade
Brand new G19 is $500. How poor are you?
The new ones are $650, you're trying to pass a gen 3 Glock off as a "brand new G19" when it's old slippery grip trash that you can't even reach the mag release button on. No moron, an actual brand new G19 is $650. The gen 3 they keep around just to have a cheaper version for the poorer morons is $500 on clearance.
a new gen 5 g19 is $480 bucks on gun.deals, stop lying
The only one that cheap is a refurbished option. The rest are $530 with $100 fees and shipping. Try actually clicking on the ads moron, they're clickbait. By the time you ship and pay all the fees you're well over $650 for a fricking plastic Glock.
it doesnt say anything about being refurbished and the other one is 15 dollars S&H, stop lying
And it was brand new, you stupid homosexual.
>I have gay hands
My G19 was $500 OTD locally with two mags, a brush, hardcase and a speed loader. Quit lying you coping contrarian moron.
Haven't seen that price since about 2010. At least not near any major city. Glocks are $600 minimum in any gun shop within 100 miles of me. Often they are $650 or thereabouts.
Thats wild because I bought mine like 2 months ago. Maybe try going to less shitty gun stores.
Here's $540 for a NIB Gen 5 at sportsman's warehouse.
://www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/handguns/glock-19-g5-front-serrations-9mm-luger-402in-black-ndlc
Nothing to do with shitty. The point is that the closer you get to larger populations, the more that retail stores charge for the same things you can find for cheaper in the boonies. Again, if I wanted to buy a Glock for less than $600, I would have to drive about 1.5 hours. And the time and cost for gas would just about negate the savings, so...
I think it's the opposite, bro. In the sticks, people charge more due to availability.
If you wanted to buy a glock for less than $600 you would order online.
Don't tell him about the internet
if you are looking for anything close to the going price for a gun at a shop you are just outing yourself as a moron. Anyone with a brain has been buying online from dropshippers for the past 5 years.
They're talking about gen 3's with the fricked up mag release that go on clearance sometimes for $500. The only reason those still exist is because of the California roster and poorgays who keep actually buying them. Glock didn't get even remotely acceptable until gen 4 and better with gen 5 when they removed the cuck grooves. It's still pretty shitty and stripped of features, but the gen 3 was so fricking bad I consider it on the level of HI Point.
You're a fricking mongoloid.
www.sportsmans.com/shooting-gear-gun-supplies/handguns/glock-19-g5-front-serrations-9mm-luger-402in-black-ndlc
https://www.basspro.com/shop/en/glock-19-gen5-fs-semi-auto-pistol
https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/glock-19-gen5-fs-semi-auto-pistol
You do not actually get them for this price, you'll pay near $100 in taxes, fees, and shipping (which they practically add a tip to). You're the exact type of moron that sticker prices and hidden fees exist for because the trick apparently works on you.
You can order it directly from the website and have it shipped to your store, for free you fricking idiot. These are big box retailers not some weird website. I refuse to believe you're this moronic.
I've done exactly this and always get charged around $100 more than the advertised price, at Sportsmans and Bass Pro no less. You're a fool for believing in the advertised price. Go ahead and order it and see for yourself or pay attention next time you're making a gun purchase. They always do that shit.
I have done this several times and no, they dont charge you anymore than the advertised price.
You're just shopping for (you)s at this point.
Perhaps you switch it around. Carry a Taurus and ride a Glock stallion for work.
Glocks are toyota corolla of the guns. Nothing fancy, it just werks.
The new GR Corolla is a beast though
So a Glock.
>walk into gun shop for first time with no knowledge
>ask what to buy
>employee tells you glock/pump shotgun/ar15
"well, this must be the best, otherwise they wouldnt have told me to buy it!"
simple as that
if/when people actually start shooting their guns more than one time
they begin to understand what they like or dont like
then they try other things and buy other things
some go a completely different direction,
others stick with the first gun they got and expand on it
but the key step is to start shooting more often
if someone at a gun shop tried to sell me a glock i'd walk out immediately
moronic contrarian
moronic NPC. Since the employees are only interested in shilling me the lowest common denominator gun, instead of catering to my needs, they are greedy israelites who are looking for a quick buck. If they really wanted to help they'd ask me questions not give me shitty answers.
Because they work. They're reliable, proven and tested. Point-click-bang is all your average consumer wants and Glock will do that.
moron take.
Gun store employees are the most likely to be contrarians concerning handguns and are incentivized by some manufacturers to sell more of their guns. Glock doesn't do that.
>Point-click-bang
More like point click jam.
>Why do private citizens buy glocks?
I know haha, I bought a Ruger for $100 cheaper lol imagine wasting money on an expensive glock!
>these shitty, cheap guns
...wait a minute.... Are glocks themselves the cheap shitty gun? Did I just buy an even cheaper, shittier gun?
Because they fricking can
Are glocks 17 still being produced ? Also what would make a glock unreliable? Do new gen mags work for old glocks from 90s?
>Also what would make a glock unreliable?
Aftermarket mags and fricking around with the internals. They're so easy to work on and the aftermarket is so huge people want to tinker around with shit when they shouldn't be.
...and yet a 3.5# connector is both a huge improvement and barely a modification, same with night sights.
they dont though lmao, i honestly went full circle from glocks to trying all the other "better" options. Smiths, Sigs, H&Ks, CZ, etc. At the end of it all i circled back around to the gen 5 glock, with a close second being the M&P2.0. A lot of that is personal preference as it always is with handguns, but the glocks are quality, they are extremely well vetted, the gen 5s are reliable, and the grip angle does work for reducing felt recoil(IMO). Lots of decent and adequate choice but if you ignore personal preference the glock wins by a small amount, if you dont then go with what you shoot the best as long as it runs reliably.
>Why do private citizens buy glocks
I know this thread is just an excuse to cause a flame war but whatever. It's because they are adequate. Not great, not shit, perfectly middle of the line. If there was any way to describe Glock, it'd be "it's fine"
People who aren’t really into guns but want a handgun for self defense will buy one because it’s what the police usually use.
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>t. noguns teenaged poster
Howard Stern is moronic
Look no one gives a frick but I grew up around 1911 platforms and revolvers shooting with my grandpa growing up. Became an adult and went to buy my own pistol and hated the glocks wasn't what I was used to. Most other consumers probably don't have my bias they hear glock is reliable because the PR department is doing their job.
Because it's an uncomplicated answer to a complicated question. You can absolutely get into the weeds about reliability, lethality, size, safety, ergonomics, bore axis, and so, so much more or just buy the option so many others are going with. Doesn't hurt that it's an extremely identifiable gun and one of the most represented guns in media, a normie that just grasps the basics of guns isn't going to dig much deeper. For those that do, the deep and precise documentation and parts availability draw in more experienced shooters. Like a lot of other people said, it's just like a corolla, liked and endorsed by n00b and expert alike
Im not a Glock fanboy but I like my 10mm. My wife really likes her 43x, and I have a 19 that I enjoy shooting. I like my Beretta way better, but thr 10mm one is alot of fun
Glock is the closest you can get to "generic gun" so it's purchased by people who either don't care about the particularities of their firearm or weirdos who find comfort in mediocrity.
It's not even the cheapest handgun.
It just works.
Learn to shoot better.
I fell for the Glock meme and honestly I fricking hated my Glock 19 so much it's unreal. I hated the weird grip angle, I hated the slickness, hated the trigger, hated the rear notch sight, hated the block ergos and aesthetic. The ONLY good thing about Glocks are the mags are cheap. They aren't even cheap guns. At $500-$600 there is a lot of competition and every competitor has same performance and multiple improvements.
People need to recommend noobs the fricking S&W M&P 2.0 instead, THAT is an actual good starter gun.
Oh look it's this fricking thread again. Just shut the frick up already. Glock 19 is the perfect handgun. You objectively don't need anything else. A 2011, cz shadow, FN 509, 92fs, usp, vp9, 320, pdp, M&P or 226 literally does nothing a glock 19 doesnt do. Doublestack 9mm goes bang. It's a tool. Pure snowflakery
You're a tool who has it ass backwards. Glock 19s do less than all those guns in its own special way. That's what being mediocre gets you. All 9mm pistols go bang, but for glocks that's all that can be said for it, and you call that a bonus? If I can pay for a gun that goes bang and fricks ur mum on the side I would buy it over this tactical Tupperware trash
Gee I wonder why the vast majority of metropolitan police departments, the FBI, DHS, SOCOM, every global state counterterrorism group, the vast majority of first world special forces groups and secret service use glocks? It's just a mystery! How can they tolerate such an ugly generic gun?
They use it because Glock has saturated the market for like 30 years and offer cheap contracts and parts availability.
"Cops and the military use it" isn't a good argument. A lot of cops and military members don't like Glocks and would carry something else if they weren't forced to. As a civilian you have more choice and better options.
>"Cops and the military use it" isn't a good argument.
Yes, it is. People who actually need to use their weapons choose Glock.
>A lot of cops and military members don't like Glocks and would carry something else if they weren't forced to.
I know multiple LEOs and many service members. Every one of them are huge Glock people.
Quit repeating memes you heard online. This guy
is the only honest Glock hater in this thread in that he doesn't like them based on appearance.
>People who actually need to use their weapons choose Glock.
They use them because they are given them and told they have to use them, moron.
You think the P320 is the best current pistol because the Army uses it?
>he doesn't know
special ops who choose their own gear chose glocks. troops who use whatever they're given get P320s or M9s.
Another example of cargo cult consooomerism. Monkey see, monkey do, and you dont even know why they chose it. No, you're just getting a gun perfect for the lowest common denominator and for the lowest price. Oh right, not like you'll ever enjoy the prices these departments get!
Spec ops don't choose their gear, procurement does. And they have reasons that go beyond individual whims. They're buying for thousands, not just for one. They're buying for decades at a time, and not a one time purchase. They're buying training for the armorers, contracts for parts supply, and other side expenses. All you buy a gun for is to fingerfrick. It's not call of duty where you get your own
ebin loadouts. If you don't even know exactly why they choose, and how their reasons apply to you, you're just a trendchasing NPC
They just work. Its a defensive pistol. Its got one job: dump rounds COM and not frick up in the process. It does that job as well as any other striker-fired handgun.
I personally don't like them, but that's just because I don't like strikers.
Glawkqueens coming out in force today it seems
Glockriders would be infinitely more respectable if they just said they liked it simple as, like anyone else with preferences.
Despite other guns having similar overall dimensions, the Glock remains one of the most comfortable guns to conceal carry. It's flat sides and lack of any sharp protrusions along with it's relative compactness and light weight make it comfy.
It's also undeniably reliable with cheap mags (that are even compatible with many PCC's) and has a broad holster selection. If you shoot it well stock, or don't mind throwing in a connector and sights, both which will bring the cost up, then there's really no reason not to like the gun. I mean shit, it's a comfy, reliable, easy to live with pistol that is more than proven.
>tl:dr If you shoot the Glock well, there's no reason not to carry one. Otherwise don't.
Glock 19M pretty comfy
>arch
Artix
Cinnamon just werks
thats Artix
>he doesn't use a tiling wm
shut it neet
>arch user
post BMI right now
Because, just like a decent powerdrill, it just works when it is needed, but it won't be used often since its not meant for someone who is a construction worker.
Same you could say about guns in general.
One day, I decided that I wanted a full sized pistol that was made by a reputable company and didn't cost an arm and a leg. I went to a local gun store, and they had some police department trade-in Glock 22s for sale for less than $500. I knew Glock was a well-known brand, but I didn't know Jack shit about. 40 caliber, but it was cheaper than the 9mm Glocks, so I said, "Frick it" and bought one. It took some getting used to, but I kinda like the damn thing. I also have a couple of replacement barrels to go with it so I can make it a 9mm or a .357 Sig. I also have a hook-up for some free .40 cal ammo, so it works out pretty well for me.
Based and reasonable-pilled. If it just works and works well for you when you need it to, then so be it.
it just works bros
>Why do private citizens buy glocks?
>It just werks
>Howard Stern
>Literal who??
thats a facebook-ass meme, my man
>all the people itt trying to justify glocks as "just working" as if functioning reliably isn't the bare minimum for a decent handgun
>all the people itt conveniently forgetting that beretta and M&P offer guns that do everything glocks do while being ergonomically superior and cheaper
It's like watching a hipster justify their Triumph motorcycle as being "utilitarian"
I own an M9 myself, but I'm highly considering buying a Glock 19 just because of its utilitarian nature, reliablity, cheap mags, and look cool. I also believe that they're called a "handgun", not a "hands-gun" for a reason. In an emergency situation where one arm is rendered disabled, you should be able to run your handgun with one hand only. For me, it's difficult to pull that 12 lb DA trigger one-handed and be accurate, where as I can probably shoot a striker fired gun more accurately one handed, so I may have to reconsider my primary carry gun. It is great fun to shoot at the range though, and dry fire with the DA trigger is a blast.
>wtf am I reading
Literally just wiener the hammer
checked
>Literally just wiener the hammer
That defeats the purpose of a DA/SA system. Yes, I can wiener the hammer, but with one hand, under stress, it ain't gonna be easy for me to do. The logical action to do is just draw, pull trigger, go boom, repeat as needed. I've tried shooting my Beretta one handed, and while I'm OK at close ranges, it goes to shit in my off-hand, especially in double action. I believe in training both of your hands for the actions you need to do, and a striker fired weapon would seem to do that just fine, although yes, if enough time is put in I'm sure you can be surgical with a Beretta, off handed, in double action.
>beretta and M&P offer guns that do everything glocks do while being ergonomically superior and cheaper
My APX choked when it got cold outside. I traded it right after. My Glock has never had issues no matter how cold or dirty it was. I don't have any experience with the M&P line
Pull the trigger, gun goes bang. Every fricking time.
he's a moronic israelite that doesn't know any better.
anyone not using a rifle is on crack or moronic.
Glock is just good enough to make people that don't shoot not think twice about it.
>Howard Stern is against firearms only reason he has one is be cause he is one of the very few people in NYC that is allowed to CCW
Frick stern and frick glocks
i guess they've just been shilled and are just among the most well known modern pistols.
a lot of people probably want a gun but don't want to put much thought into it so they just go with whatever google suggests. everything i've read says theyre good but when i watch firing tests it looks like they can jam from limp wristing a lot easier than other pistols.
Howard Stern is a closeted homosexual with a beard wife. I bet he's never fired his Glock once.