Go to any page about wars in the 20th/21st centuries, and you'll find so many of them are almost neverending. very common to find ones that last up to 25+ years.
Why is that?
Why do modern wars last very long?
Go to any page about wars in the 20th/21st centuries, and you'll find so many of them are almost neverending. very common to find ones that last up to 25+ years.
Why is that?
Wars have been getting shorter, dumbass
>no hundred years war equivalent since middle ages
I think thats what OP meant, based on his post text the title should have been Why DONT modern wars last very long
I think you're ESL
>everyone who makes a mistake is brown XD
>Everyone who is ESL is brown.
Yeah you're ESL.
Nvm I think me and OP are both moronic
Shut up, OP. You're a homosexual
Imagine being a 15th century peasant and dying in a war your great great great great grandfather died in.
It was more like a collections of small wars than one huge war
Again
Thats not one huge wars
More like a collection of conflicts
For exemple the roman-sassanid war of 602-628 is a war
The roman-persian wars are the collection of all those wars
so is the current war in the middle east, aswell as the napoleonic wars, the wars russia is involved with, etc
but nobody thinks of those as separated conflicts, they're all tied together in the same region with conflicts happening in atleast intervals of a few years
You'd have already knocked up your prime 14 year old virgin wife back then, who gives a shit? Life already peaked for you.
All of the wars in modern times have been over almost immediately. GW1&2, Serbia, Afghanistan. Are you perhaps thinking of the poor-man’s ww1 situations in Ukraine and Chechnya?
>Byzantine-Arab wars
>Arab-Byzantine wars
Thank them for all the muslims
Basically, the mountain-steppe turbanBlack person Sassanids imploded due to stabbing each-other in the back, and were replaced by Iran 2: Divine Childfricker edition.
I'm just confused about the difference between the Arab-Byzantine war and the Byzantine-Arab war. Sounds like the same thing to me
Defender is put first in a War between nations.
Arab-Byzie= Byzies attack Arabs
Byzie-Arab= Arabas attack Byzies
So Russia really is just defending itself.
Feels blessed to have been born during the Pax Americana
How come it took the Russians 167 years to conquer Siberia?
Did all of the colonists keep getting eaten by tigers?
More likely eaten by eskimos. Those people are vicious, even compared to the Russians.
Apparently, they Rsukies were especially afraid of the Chuchki (right on the eastern edge of Siberia)
https://www.rbth.com/history/332331-russia-cossacks-chukchi-chukotka-war
Or maybe they were nice people and the Russians just made up shit to justify killing them. Who can tell?
>Did all of the colonists keep getting eaten by tigers?
Mostly eaten by the mosquitos. Also there's the bit where most of it is a boiling bog in the summers, nearly Antarctic cold in the winters, it's a good bit larger than the entire USA and to this day has basically frick all in the way of roads. It takes a lot of people to establish any kind of presence there, Russia rarely had many to spare and those who settled in Siberia weren't in a good position to multiply.
If you look at it like that then you could say in IDK... 2840 History books
Modern TransAtlantic European EuroAsian wars - 1914-2023...
Problem with wars is they never fade, they just move, just like forest fire.
We actually had small pocket of peace from 1996 till 2001 in maybe long ass time.
There were certain periods in history, such as the Hellenistic period and the Napoleonic wars, where wars, where the destructive power of armies was greater than the productive power of states. So when two armies met, and one got fricked, the war was over because there is no time to build a second army. Then there are times, like the late middle ages and today, when a society's economy could fuel a war more or less indefinitely, and it would only end when something drastic happens or one side completely runs out of resources..
The war on terror was a war with no clear objective and as such we meandered in the sandbox only to do absolutely nothing .the Vietnam war was pretty long but lasted less than a decade as the home front grew sour about the war and we left empty handed
Ukraine is very different, it literally is fighting for it’s survival, and will not stop until either Russia is gone or their resolve is shattered, and Russia will not stop until it controls Ukraine or until there is no Russia anymore. The goals are clear, and now it’s a battle to see how lasts the longest
Ah yes, the famous modern wars like the Hundred Years War or the Thirty Years War.
Do you really think they had a WW2 like front and intensity for 100 years?
Do you really think that is what defines a war? Show me an example of something like that pre-industrial revolution. War used to be a series of campaigns with armies maneuvering and then having set piece battles, nations didn't have the economies to support massive fronts of continuous combat that is a recent development.
That's the point moron
No it isn't moron. You're trying to say that the 30 and 100 years wars weren't wars in themselves because they didn't have continuous fighting the entire time. have a nice day.
Then why not just lump together french prussian war WW1 and WW2 and call it "prussian war for european hegemony"
Because those wars each had an outcome that was achieved within those time periods. The 100 and 30 years wars took 100 and 30 years to end. You're a moron and by your definition of a war any war prior to industrialization wasn't a war. You're a moron.
Those wars are like the italian wars, it's moronic to make an equivalence with something like the iran-iraq war
Do you think the Afghan and Iraq wars had a WW2-like front and intensity?
The ideologies behind those wars keep persisting (especially now that communication is so much more connected), so it's easy to pass the fire on to new generations.
>Be medieval kingdom
>Grand majority of industry is sustenance agriculture and some guy called Geoff who makes carpets
>Don't have the economy to go on extended war without bankrupting yourself
>That and your peasant levies also gotta be back in time and in one piece to keep the aforementioned sustenance agriculture going
>Lords and nobles under you could provide levies if they're loyal to you but even then they face the same problem you do on a smaller scale
The only wars that have been going on for a long time are civil wars, not country vs country wars. Unless you count the Cold War, I guess.
low intensity containment conflicts
Ever heard of the 100 year war?
Yeah, but that only lasted 116 years.
>Reconquista
>military campaigns against muslims
>started in 718, lasted 774 years
>GWOT
>military campaigns against muslims
>started in 2001, lasting 19 years so far
Anon, historically, most major wars last for a minimum of 10 years and often go on for much longer. Having a war last less than five years from start to finish with a clean conclusion is rare.
You're right, the 30 and 100 years war are just artificial "wars" historians grouped together into a single big one.
Lack of total war by western powers as well as smaller armies. We didn't fire bomb cities in the war on terror and then fill the ruins with a massive number of troops. We didn't even invade North Vietnam to avoid angering commies. I mean how do you stop them from invading if there is no real damage to them at home?
Because israelites.
Industrial ability to replace attrition
Medieval states didn't have the bureaucratic and logistical competence needed for big armies, and had populations large enough to keep replacing the tiny armies of the period indefinitely.
have you forgotten about the 30 years war? Or the hundred years war?
Technology. Compare horse drawn carriages to modern transport vehicles. Compare bows and arrows vs field artillery. Compare hammers, maces, swords, and spears vs the rifle. Sitting in fortified castle doesn't really work nowadays compared days of the old where attacking a gate was a suicide mission.
Yeah if only it could be like the good ol' days.
>ITT: down syndromes arguing over what a word means ad infinitum
>goes on /k/
>is surprised when people are autistic over military related things
A slavic brother war dosen't mean all wars will be like it. Technology and systems of systems will get faster though from the lessons learned from it though.