Armies filled with people who are there for political/ideological reasons rather that being "they are competent" reasons tend to preform very poorly, even with good technology and money to back them up. Of course, you should never underestimate your enemy, but just an insight.
The government touts and waves around their symbols(gay flag, trannies, morons). Before they at least pretended to represent a white and generally conservative country
Party loyalists who have had their minds fucked by Marxist professors and garden gnomes. What a waste. Imagine if liberals were pro White in America. Their fervor for their stupid shit is second to none.
no you retard also this is a technology demonstrator meaning its a look at all the cool shit we could put in a abrams kinda thing.
The abramsx as shown there will never enter serial production at least not exactly as seen there,on a sidenote i doubt they are gona start up abrams production agien ever to justify something like that they would probably go for something entierly new. But something like this might get sold as an upgrade package to 2nd hand users like australia or maybe the saudis since the m1a3 whit the new turret should show up at some point.
look at the status of the ukraine war.
neither side is using tanks in large scale anymore because they get taken out far too easily.
modern tanks are like battleships during WW2.
generals haven't figured out yet that they are obsolete.
Not true first off there are 0 tanks whit aps in ukraine second if you dont use tanks/afvs you are back to chargeing machine guns whit infantry ww1 style and noone thinks that is the better solution.
Libs only have culture war. They are in love with the current fiscal situation, so any issue they see in society must’ve been caused by some kind of social politics. These are the people that unironically love Hillary and Biden.
Does any modern tank have a solution to being smashed with a bunch of molotovs? Seems to me that shit would at the very least fuck up your optics and sensory equipment pretty bad.
Molotov, plus powered laundry soap mixed in for extra sticky fire, right onto the rear deck, over the air intakes for the engine.
This will trigger in fire suppression system in the engine compartment and the subsequent automatic shutdown of the engine.
Congratulations! You have scored your first Mobility Kill.
yes and the solution is literally not getting in range for one
nobody who understands what a modern MBT actually is, what its capabilities are, or what it was intended to do, will roll one into an urban area
it's like golf-carting into a fucking subway tunnel
if you need to roll in some form of armour into urban areas you use turreted MRAPs
>They want to see everything that isn't a blue city turned to ash, all the women raped, all the men mutilated.
All cities are blue now, Cletus. And yes, we do want to rewild the parts of Earth you raped with extractive industries like agriculture. Burn the ruralites out and RETVRN to nature.
Just use a paintball bomb to cover their sensors. Boom I'm genius
https://i.imgur.com/vzGvsmM.jpg
Molotov, plus powered laundry soap mixed in for extra sticky fire, right onto the rear deck, over the air intakes for the engine.
This will trigger in fire suppression system in the engine compartment and the subsequent automatic shutdown of the engine.
Congratulations! You have scored your first Mobility Kill.
>le molotovs
Tanks haven't been vulnerable to molotovs since Vietnam, and if they were somehow still vulnerable, they why didn't the people in Gaza use molotovs against tanks?
Am i incorrect? The Israelis didn't lose a single tank during their operation in Gaza because of it's APS and other counter measures, hamas used everything including ATGMs, molotovs, and grenades but it was all invalidated by the Merkava's APS.
https://i.imgur.com/6JfU5Al.jpg
uh oh
Hamas tried the same thing and it was still invalidate by israel's APS system.
Explain to me how i'm wrong? Israel didn't lose a single tank in Gaza to le Molotov's because of it's APS.
2 months ago
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they lose several patrols to hamas every week to the point most recruits have become demoralized as gaza patrol duty is considered the worst position to have. US used tanks in Vietnam, tell me how that turned out?
2 months ago
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>they lose several patrols to hamas every week
They do NOT lmao quit kidding yourself retard.
>they why didn't the people in Gaza use molotovs against tanks
Because they get killed by the infantry support with the tank before they can get close enough.
Just blow up all the roads. IEDs. Cut power. Hit power plants.
Use flying columns for cross country raids.
Hit them at maintenance. Hit them at home. Assassination. Sabotage.
There's like, 10.000 ways to deal with the threat of the state versus normal people. Especially if they use incredibly complex, extremely expensive shit like ops pic
>omg 99% civs will go against the government if they bomb some random retard in his neighborhood! >but us destroying literally all infrastructure will totally not make every citizen go against the rebellion!
fucking retard.
You only need to cut certain vital supply lines to have unlimited RW Appalachian freedom from the federal government.
You haven't thought this through, right? Say, the government uses certain highways to resupply this monster tank with fuel because its such a gas guzzler. Ok? Just blow that road. Make it unsafe for a 70 ton tank to drive over.
Why would a revolutionary militia hit their own roads they use to drive their own vehicles? You're not making sense
Then why didn't the iraqis do this in Iraq? Oh that's right it's almost like America knew that shit would be targeted so they set up surveillance and troops around key infrastructure.
because the iraqis had no ability to target american infrastructure from halfway accross the planet.
it's a very different story when the very people you are trying to oppress occupy the land that all of your food/water/power/fuel must travel through.
If The US Government is "all knowing and all powerful" - then how the fuck did it lose to fuckers in black pajamas back in the '70s? Or even how it lost a 20 year Occupation to Dune Coons? OR even how it suffered major casualties that it couldn't even counter in the form of IEDs in 'Raq?
One of my biggest red pills in recent years is the realization that the US military is actually pretty shitty. Great technology, no question. But holy shit they have sucked in virtually every war they've been a part of.
Don't forget the deindustrialization. The demoralization.
The US military is now being milked by trannies for sex change operations and HRT medication sinecures.
It also got purged by all the right leaning whites that actually know war.
Its totally ineffectual, no one wants to join anymore
not defending it but i'm pretty sure our dudes werent even allowed to shoot back if they were being fired at
if there was even like one rambo guy like mark wahlberg over there that war would have gone very differently i assure you
bootlickers and glowies will say all those losses were part of their plan
like how america abandoned a ton of military equipment and vehicles behind when they fled afghanistan and they claimed it was on purpose so the opposition could use them to ruin their own country for the usa
if that pulls up in my driveway I would climb on top of it. what will they do then? shake me off? spin the top gun toward me? trust me ive seen the morons in blm riots do this to swat cars nothing will happen.
It's called back scratching. Infantry, mostly Soviet and Japanese, in WW2 used to swarm tanks. In response tank crews began the order "scratch my back" over the radio where a nearby friendly vehicle would pour small caliber MG fire over the other's hull. It resulted in absolute butchery.
>if that pulls up in my driveway I would climb on top of it.
My god, I just pictured this obese Yank trying to climb the Ambrams like a retarded Chink tank man.
Tanks will not be effective in the upcoming US civil war. If the US were to deploy them, it would exclusivelybe in plains or desert states, where little fighting will occur. Even countryside would be hell for tanks. They're not rolling fortresses, they're very, VERY specialized tools.
in today's world it isn't the government you need a gun to protect yourself from, it's the morons and third world subhumans they're flooding into your communities
Because they want nothing more than to see an incredibly powerful central government use all weapons at its disposal to attack rape and kill their political enemies. When you hear the statement "no government wants to rule over ashes", they don't believe that. They want to see everything that isn't a blue city turned to ash, all the women raped, all the men mutilated. Liberals are truly not human and need to be treated like roaches.
>They want to see everything that isn't a blue city turned to ash, all the women raped, all the men mutilated.
All cities are blue now, Cletus. And yes, we do want to rewild the parts of Earth you raped with extractive industries like agriculture. Burn the ruralites out and RETVRN to nature.
Crazy how people that know nothing about military technologies instantly think it's all indestructible. Convex pipe config under a road and boom, the crew are dead and the tank has lost it's purpose, not to mention tanks are rarely used against light targets unless necessary.
>80% of the military is right leaning >the majority of people that manufacture arms are right leaning
What do they expect is going to happen? Billybob in the marines who has a confederate flag in his room is going to slaughter his neighbors because Biden told him to?
100% he will. Two years ago every cop in America would have gladly killed you for going into a grocery store without a paper mask. The military is way way worse and will follow any order. This was decided in the 1950s for fucks sake.
Billy Bob is actually Pablo and Pablo will absolutely shoot at anyone he is ordered to (especially white people)
This, Anyone that thinks a government employee is their friend has their rights, safety, or interests in mind is a fucking idiot that is in for a big surprise.
It’s ok, the politicians who order the Abrams around have homes. They have children. They have predictable routines. And their private security forces have homes, families, and predictable routines as well.
>And their private security forces have homes, families, and predictable routines as well
I think this is the hard part. People don't want to hurt those who are just doing it for the paycheck to feed their families. Its mentally difficult to accept that the hands of the establishment need to be forced harder than any other part. Giving them the chance to go home to their families and let the natural process happen without them is difficult to standardize and convince until they're completely overwhelmed
So this man supports using tanks against American citizens.
He supports the killing of American citizens, remember that.
This is what we call a loyalist, loyal to these chomo elites.
>AR-15
The AR-10 is my weapon of choice for the revolution.
The Taliban took out Abrams tanks with $60 improvised mines.
The Ukrainians take out heavy armor with dirt cheap quadcopter drones loaded with basic munitions.
It's not tanks and planes that win wars, it is public support. That is how third worlders defeated the US military, the most powerful military in the world, in Afghanistan and Vietnam.
But we aren't third worlders, we are Americans. We have over 60 million gun owners and now over 400 million guns. We aren't a foreign country on the other side of the world.
To contrast, the government has 1-2 million armed personnel, max, not including the ones that join the revolution.
You do the math. We have the arms, the veterans lit the spark. Keep organizing in arms, even a local militia. It's your Constitutional right.
These fucking people should consider we literally JUST lost Afghanistan after pouring everything we had into for decades.
A bunch of goat fuckers with ieds were too much for these fucks but they are going to be super effective against us for some reason?
Try fucking winning a goddamned war with all the money you’ve been stealing from us before you think you have an effective deterrent.
What’s the quickest way to start Civil War 2 and get 99% of the population to fight against the government? Have the government start bombing random houses in your neighborhoods.
Liberals are the dumbest mother fuckers on the planet who only exist to simp for the state establishment.
This. So much repression and projection coming from the left. There's some on the right, too. But we aren't as emotionally unstable as they are. I guess that's what competence does.
Its pretty unnerving. I've also realized that they hate everything and everyone, including themselves. That's why they sound so deranged when their unloading on what they think is an acceptable target surrounded by like-minded people. They are, at their core, pure bundles of hateful misanthropic energy. Your typical Klansman could never measure up to their basic level of hatred.
Imagine cheering on the military just executing your fellow American just because you don’t agree with them. I’m all for civil war at this point. Fuck the left and the right. You are both cancer and deserve what’s coming your way
That argument was always retarded. Libs seriously think there would be no pushback from soldiers if they were told to fire on their own people?
Also accidentally blow up someone's sister with a tank or air strike and see how much their family, friends, or town continue to support your government.
Hell our government couldn't even beat the bunch of fuckwads with AK-47s, the number of armed American citizens makes that look like nothing, and considering most of those own more than 1 they could easily double that number.
Kek, General Dynamics is so creatively bankrupt at this point it has to result to welding some angled slabs of sheet metal to a 1970's hull and paint it gray to make it look more futuristic, just like Twardy and 2A7. Instead of experimenting with some actually progressive fast light tank design with advanced stabilization and continuous streaming ballistic calculus and pattern recognition assisted target tracking and efficient fast firing unmanned turret, capable of repetitive hits on target even at 60kph in off road.
Demoncrats really can't understand dying for any cause other than Black emancipation. The government can kills hundreds of thousands of us, there will still be millions more to take their place. There is no victory for them other than bombing major cities. That wouldn't be much of a victory for them considering America would revert to being +90% white.
> Somebody J Walks > Abrams: *Fires at that somebody and kills them with Canister Shot* > The Public (in the Abrams Operator's mind): *Cheers* > The Public (in Reality): *is VERY visibly horrified and begins to dogpile on the Abrams*
Maybe the libs do, but the US government's entire shtick with dealing with a civil war is to make sure it never happens via infiltration of organized groups, Stasi like tactics to make people paranoid, and keeping people addicted to distractions. No telling if one would start, but it would most definitely need a leader to rally behind, which unfortunately is lacking (as of this moment, the right only has civic nationalist cuckolds who are scared to death of doing anything other than grifting).
If a civil war did start, people would go after pipelines, the electrical grid, key highways, and railroads in small groups or even alone rather than marching in columns at the nearest tank. And if a war does start here, expect a lot of people to leave, especially liberals, elites and their pet post 1965 migrants.
>If a civil war did start, people would go after pipelines, the electrical grid, key highways, and railroads in small groups or even alone rather
Don't forget the fiber lines. Literally one man with a rifle and basic hand tools can destroy infrastructure around the country. There have been a few attacks on substations already and I don't think the government has ever caught any of the people involved.
Okay gay. Then you work either in Logistics, Medical, and/or fucking Signals. Leave shit like that to folks like me - I personally don't like the Government Bootlickers and they deserve to pay the ultimate price for being such traitorous fucks.
> TFW The US lost The Philippines Insurgency and that was 2 years shy the length of Afghanistan > TFW The US pulled out only after 50 US Army Rangers died in Mogadishu > TFW The US Military APPARENTLY trains for war, however, it fucking sucks every time it actually does fight a fucking war - WELL rather it sucks once it heads into a Military Occupation following a Conventional Conflict but still
It’s just power fantasies that they have because they’re naturally weak people and are still seething over rittenhouse smoking some pedoleftists, people they identify with. Also, they think if they shill for the state, the state will turn around and share their power sometime in the distant future as a reward.
You see Ivan, USA used to be a place where it was a somewhat "the harder and more honestly you worked, the more you got rewarded for it." but now, it become,...russia 2.0
Israel's trophy APS (the same one that Abrams uses) are able to take out rockets traveling at 300m/s, i doubt a drone traveling far slower than that will be able hit an abrams.
Is it 4 rockets coming from directly above, shit ass?
The trophy APS has full 360 protection, so yes it won't be a problem retard, that exact scenario happened in Gaza numerous times and everytime it happened, it failed.
Anon, do you think that APS shoots every fucking bird out of the sky that flies near it? No. Because, the radar signature of a bird is not a threat and is likely filtered from the radar screen as to not cause sensory overload to the guy operating it. You have no idea how any of this shit works.
Yeah it won't shoot every "bird", but the moment a "bird" is 10 meters away from it traveling at 100kms an hour, i think the aps would attack it then.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Fireworks, now you got enough tips
2 months ago
Anonymous
But my bird drone will be the size and average speed of a hawk. Good luck.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Fake and gay, won't be able to see the 2nd one let alone have an answer for the 4th. IN ADDITION, a system is always several orders of magnitude easier to destroy than it is to build, that's a fact. Have faith in your star treck tech in your portable coffin retard.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Fucking retard the trophy APS has 360 protection, multiped rockets attacking a single tank happened in Gaza and it still couldn't get passed the APS.
2 months ago
Anonymous
rockets from multiple directions =! several dropped objects with the same vector, with a brief time delay between them. Retarded gnomish moron gay.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Or some plain old satchel bombs and anti-tank grenades
2 months ago
Anonymous
I'm sure a rebel will get close enough to throw a anti-tank grenade at a modern tank, real sure fucking retard.
2 months ago
Anonymous
To be fair, I would not want to get in line of sight of the machine gun, but the retards on here thinking a tank will battle a militia man like it's a fucking pokemon battle are fucking retarded.
those quadcopter drones won't be able to do shit against tanks. Do idiots here really believe those things are equivalent to a shahed drone? Why the fuck are people so stupid?
Yeah, and a well placed molotov cocktail from a $100 eBay kit drone will still fuck that engine up and pressure cook the crew real good. That or a copper plate pressured to a cup full of blackpowder wired to a pressure sensor to the side/undercarriage. Even better is a simple piece of rebar launched in between the tracks and the gears.
Anon, do you think that APS shoots every fucking bird out of the sky that flies near it? No. Because, the radar signature of a bird is not a threat and is likely filtered from the radar screen as to not cause sensory overload to the guy operating it. You have no idea how any of this shit works.
If the AR-15 is so puny and useless why do you want to ban them? You gays simultaneously say they are useless and a powerful weapon of war no civilian is qualified to own.
>So we'd have less mass shootings
The overwhelming majority of mass shootings are moron on moron using handguns. If. A white man had done pic related with an illegal full auto it would have been national news. But since it was. A moron murdering another moron with an illegal full auto it isn't even a blip on the media radar.
That gun in my webm was already illegal, gay. I am sure making it DOUBLE illegal would stop the moron, who most likely makes his money trafficking illegal goods, from having it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
wrong, that gun may have been legal but the glock switch was not. Glock switches are extremely easy to make/buy, but they're useless once the guns are banned and taken away (forcibly).
2 months ago
Anonymous
so, you intend to give JUST the police the guns then? werent you all just protesting the police? wait. how does that work?
2 months ago
Anonymous
yes, and I never protested the police, don't project.
or maybe we just ban murder.
murder is already illegal, a gun ban would help enforce that.
https://i.imgur.com/qbUuUUA.png
>muh morons
Doesn't matter, all guns will be taken away.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Doesn't matter, all guns will be taken away
Gun rights are expanding at the state level. Assault weapon bans and magazine bans keep getting overturned as unconstitutional Cope and seethe.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>things will never change
Too bad, there's going to be a breaking point, and it will happen.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>Noooooo!
2 months ago
Anonymous
Just a warning, they'll probably just ignore the ruling and continue to enforce it, or make some other weird regulation to defacto legalize it.
2 months ago
Anonymous
the current administration is actively working to rig the next election by levying criminal investigations against their chief political rivals.
we have reached banana republic levels of governmental legitimacy.
we are very close to a naked tyranny where the only authority the agencies of the government rely upon is the strength of their arms and all law will be enacted in the form of decrees.
these people aren't planning on losing an election ever again.
they don't care what judgements are made against them because they will just do whatever they want because they have the guns.
the judicial branch has no power.
the legislative branch has no power.
the executive himself is just a figurehead.
the true rulers of this country are the heads of the three letter agencies and the corporate oligarchs they collude with.
we already live in a fascist state, they just haven't announced it yet.
2 months ago
Anonymous
damn well at least you're honest. i never protested police so i couldn't possibly be projecting, fyi. was pretty clear from my statement
2 months ago
Anonymous
Why would I protest the police when they're the main enforcers of the law? It was a dumb assumption to make.
2 months ago
Anonymous
true. i guess if you really think the government has your best interests at heart then more power to you.
2 months ago
Anonymous
no no no you're right they definitely make laws up just to fuck with you
Those Chinese balloons snuck in like it was nothing
yeah which is why we NEVER detected them huh?
2 months ago
Anonymous
They were detected in the Pacific first retard.
They were spotted by nerds on Twitter
2 months ago
Anonymous
no they weren't
2 months ago
Anonymous
The very first sighting was reported by civilian passengers on an airplane
2 months ago
Anonymous
that's incidental. they make laws to benefit themselves. im surprised that you think they have your best interest at heart.
2 months ago
Anonymous
they still need people to rule over, and keeping americans safer benefits everyone.
2 months ago
Anonymous
well. they are safe from who exactly? the rulers or the people? shouldn't all guns, including the military and police be banned, in the name of safety? fireworks too? things like that.
2 months ago
Anonymous
from mass murderers you dumb FUCK.
2 months ago
Anonymous
mass murderers like hitler, pol pot, mao, stalin? or? also there's no reason to be angry. everyone is entitled to their opinion.
2 months ago
Anonymous
real Dinesh hours
2 months ago
Anonymous
what a fucking idiot you are, no dumb FUCK, the ones in the news every few weeks in AMERICA, I don't give a shit about what happens in other countries, fuck em.
2 months ago
Anonymous
you should probably read about those people if you don't know who they are. they were actually defeated with guns, and generally are considered to be mass murderers.
2 months ago
Anonymous
yeah, mao was defeated with guns, kek.
2 months ago
Anonymous
then we are in agreement. guns and self defense against tyranny is a good thing. i knew wed find a middle ground
2 months ago
Anonymous
no, dumb ass, you said these tyrants were defeated by guns and yet you listed both mao and stalin, none of whom died by guns. You fucked yourself. Hell, even hitler committed suicide via pills and the gun was just insurance lmao.
2 months ago
Anonymous
we are in agreement! it's a good think to resist tyranny with guns.
2 months ago
Anonymous
what a stubborn fuck lmao
2 months ago
Anonymous
i dont understand? isnt tyranny bad?? or were these guys good guys. guns were used to defend against them. i thought we were in agreement on this. tyranny=bad
2 months ago
Anonymous
lmao, yeah, mao and stalin totally lost, okay
2 months ago
Anonymous
you realize it's not like a marvel movie right? there's not some epic final showdown right? the world is complex, and tyranny is bad. so we should resist tyranny with guns. i thought we were in agreement on this? tyranny = bad right?
2 months ago
Anonymous
actually that wasn't the point of our little exchange, way to change the subject though, bravo
2 months ago
Anonymous
its not like a marvel movie. outside of maybe math, there isn't some "point" theres only opinions.. i think we are in agreement though: tyranny=bad, use guns to resist tyranny.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>this retard is lecturing me now
Kek
2 months ago
Anonymous
if three sentences is a lecture, it says a heck of a lot about you. again, i think we both agree guns resist tyranny ! im really glad we could come to a middle ground on this!
2 months ago
Anonymous
Hey newfag, thread’s over and (You) killed it by clogging up one out of every ten posts ITT sucking circumcised cock.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>"n-no you can't post more than x times because I said so!"
Too fucking bad buddy
2 months ago
Anonymous
the government kills more people than mass shooters.
mass shootings are statistical anomalies overblown in significance by the federal government in an attempt to scare you into surrendering your rights.
you are far more likely to be killed by LIGHTNING than a mass shooter.
wake
the
fuck
up
2 months ago
Anonymous
>the government kills more people than mass shooters.
How? >inb4 muh replacement
2 months ago
Anonymous
not really.
the people in charge of the country right now are the same people who believe the world has too many white people in it.
they don't care if you die, and in fact, they want you to be the victim of random violence because then you will beg them to take away your rights in exchange for the illusion of safety.
2 months ago
Anonymous
morons don't by legal guns because most moron males are felons.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Do you think it would be feasible to catch every illegal immigrant in the USA and deport them?
No?
Then why do you think forcibly confiscating every gun is even remotely possible when it would be a several times larger and .kre difficult task? It is literally NEVER going to be possible. There are more guns in the USA than people.
2 months ago
Anonymous
obviously it won't be easy or fast. Anyone caught owning guns after a deadline will be punished. Severely.
2 months ago
Anonymous
If the state feels it can "severely" punish someone for a malum prohibitum crime then I guess I should use that tool to defend myself from them
2 months ago
Anonymous
See what happens.
2 months ago
Anonymous
We're pretty much at the point that government pretends to honor our rights and we pretend murdering tyrants and enforcers is bad. I'd personally love for the masks to come off.
2 months ago
Anonymous
that's just you.
I would go on the offensive before that deadline ever came.
just you? okay, see what happens.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Hardly.
2 months ago
Anonymous
>just you? okay, see what happens.
Yes, just me with my trusty shovel. I can tell you what will happen. You won't be able to get in the Internet and shill anymore.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Your life will end in a mass grave for the WEF. You are weak. The government is weak. I am better than you.
2 months ago
Anonymous
I would go on the offensive before that deadline ever came.
2 months ago
Anonymous
Do you plan on banning 3D printers and CNC machines too?
2 months ago
Anonymous
Are you retarded? Obviously not, but if you're going to be using them to make fucking weapons, yeah.
2 months ago
Anonymous
and I'm pretty fucking sure manufacturing weapons without a license is fucking illegal
2 months ago
Anonymous
Yes sharpening sticks now requires a license.
2 months ago
Anonymous
if you intend to fucking kill someone with it, then yes. That's an extra charge for you. God, you're a fucking retard
2 months ago
Anonymous
fyi, it's not illegal. i dont know where you got that from
I bet there is something you can put in the fuel that would destroy it; hundreds or thousand of miles away from the actual tank.
I bet some anon has already figured out what this "Hispanicy additive" is, and has stockpiled a few thousand pounds of it.
Maybe liquid mercury? Or something that releases hydrogen causing the engine to embrittle and crack?
morons with handguns kill 1000x more people each year than "racists" with AR15s.
Send decoys to waste countermeasures. your overpriced piece of shit can be destroyed by an IED.
>Send decoys to waste countermeasures.
Large firework rockets wrapped in tin foil.
i have a pack of trained orangutans that are very cute to look at but are secretly trained killers that could easily disable that
>i have a pack of trained orangutans that are very cute to look at but are secretly trained killers that could easily disable that
Is that you Vlad?
Hell weld the Bore with Thermite. INSTANT De-Activation kill - especially since they would have to haul the AbramsX ALL the way back to the factory and have it "re-armed". Just imagine that doing that to an entire Battalion's worth of Tanks.
you're right an AR15 would do nothing to that, however, the 480lbs of fertilizer underneath the manhole cover wired up to a raspberry pi with accelerometer ground sensor will.
>giant tank, somehow on a regular parking lot without damaging the pavement
i think we can safely say this one is a meme, but i wonder how heavy a real one will be, some 80 ton tank rolling down the street is going to have a bad time...
They fantasize about being the Commissars in the Bolshevik revolution. They will just end up dead since garden gnomes don't want any competition. The crazy part about these morons is they have never been in real combat, and think that having a tank equates to an automatic win condition.
If you blow up the track, the tank is as good as dead. Just do a 360 and walk away. Ez as.
Tanks also need parts and fuel to function, which are completely reliant on local infrastructure. You also need competent crews with a high morale so that tanks aren't just abandoned on the side of the road at the first sign of trouble.
>citizens rise up against the government >use cities as cover >government kills millions of bystanders trying to hit multiple guys shooting from different buildings
I’m not left or right, I’m just anti fed and I think both left or right could over throw the US government pretty easily and the fed is terrified of people actually doing. They can’t win a war when any real action would lead to civilian casualties.
remember the greatest military force in world history spent 20 years fighting a bunch of goat herders and opium farmers and they took over before we could even get out.
sure the us government could carpet bomb and roll tanks through its cities and kill millions to exert control, but a government, any government, even an occupation government, needs some form of legitimacy and consent over the ruled. when it loses that, it is in for a very bad time and won't last long.
who is going to side with the government when they are going ape shit on regular citizens, flattening cities, rolling into neighborhoods with giant tanks, etc?
Why do you think Israel is so hated? Because they do shit like that without any remorse.
No, I hate Israel because they are kites, alot of what they do would be based af otherwise...I want an extremely violent right wing theocratic ethnostate, just not for garden gnomes.
>Why do libs want to cause a civil war because of some rifles?
They think a civil war is "we the people" vs "the federal army", if the amerimuts had any education at all they would know that civil wars start in earnest when the army splits in two. So there will be people in each side with these wunderwaffen tanks that probably burn like any other tank when they are shelled.
Doesn't look like it has an active radar or a way to counter the drone threat, looks like they've had their head up their ass the entire Ukraine/Russian conflict. I understand the mines problem but they do have de-mining rollers that can be placed on them but those are so-so at best and can only withstand a few hits from mines before rollers need to be replaced.
A civil war could easily be won with a few handguns alone. It's not about firepower, it's about the target. That's why they want to take your guns. The entire argument is stupid.
its insane. they dont fucking understand what it would be like. pure chaos and they wouldn't be spared. it's like they WANT a tyrannical government to come make everyone's lives as shitty as their own.
>dude what if one guy rises up and they drive a tank to his house!!
These are the same people that were convinced there was going to be blood in the streets when a bunch of facebook memers walked into the congress building and that they had to leave for Canada to avoid literal Trump death squads
Right wingers will never do shit, half of them believes this country is controlled by satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles and if that doesn't make them start a civil war, nothing will.
Because they're arrogant obnoxious gays who think they understand how the world really works from their shoebox apartment in <insert US metropolitan shithole here>
The only thing worse than an idiot is an idiot that thinks they're smart.
I find it ironic that that are no right wing people threatening liberals with the govt.
We threaten them. They say "well you can't fight the govt"
We aren't fighting them. We will be fighting you.
>the government will save me from you
Why would you expect a different attitude from people who literally expect government to be their mommy and daddy?
That just looks like the basic Cold War tank with some 3D-printed shit on it to make it look futuristic to functional retards that haven't realized that American military-industrial complex is a scam.
yeah I'm starting to think all of you antigovernment gays in here are chinese or russian trolls/shills. Fuck off, it's way too obvious. You will never stir shit up here.
>yeah I'm starting to think all of you antigovernment gays in here are chinese or russian trolls/shills. Fuck off, it's way too obvious. You will never stir shit up here.
How much fuel does it use and where are the refineries? It's easy to operate war machines when the infrastructure they depend on is safe on another continent.
Considering the military’s habit of pulling out of conflict and leaving millions of dollars in vehicles/ordinance for their enemies to take, I would encourage them to roll that into my driveway.
Yeah, and a well placed molotov cocktail from a $100 eBay kit drone will still fuck that engine up and pressure cook the crew real good. That or a copper plate pressured to a cup full of blackpowder wired to a pressure sensor to the side/undercarriage. Even better is a simple piece of rebar launched in between the tracks and the gears.
That’s all common knowledge you can find in baby’s first PrepHole thread, at least before it got ~~*flooded*~~ last year. You can find all of that on a Wikipedia article or two.
Okay. Too bad I do not care and neither do any jurisdictions outside of sheriff Mike Chitwood when anons troll him. Besides, knowledge isn’t illegal, only using it is. All I’m doing is pointing at that no amount of modern tech can defend against guerilla tactics that take advantage of fundamental design weaknesses of all tanks since WW2 at least.
Did you know that a high-powered laser can blind a federal agent, police officer or soldier in 1/15th of a second? Did you know that a high-powered laser can destroy cameras and other sensing equipment within seconds of exposure?
did you know your post is archived and can be used against you if you tried anything like that?
who is going to side with the government when they are going ape shit on regular citizens, flattening cities, rolling into neighborhoods with giant tanks, etc?
Why do you think Israel is so hated? Because they do shit like that without any remorse.
No one will care if some crazy gun autists got flattened for shooting at cops.
nope, stop projecting, I don't give a fuck about morons
if three sentences is a lecture, it says a heck of a lot about you. again, i think we both agree guns resist tyranny ! im really glad we could come to a middle ground on this!
Well you keep repeating it like you wanna brainwash me or something, fuck off already.
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tyranny=bad, and guns resist tyranny, i know we have differences, but I'm happy we could come to this middle ground!
reminder that fed morons always try to scare anons by warning them their posts are archived.
we are rapidly approaching the point where it won't matter.
try the mass crackdowns you fetishize and you will find that political assassinations will be happening faster than you can investigate and prosecute the culprits.
this is not a threat, it's a warning
>fuck that engine up and pressure cook the crew real good
its not ww1 any more retard the engine is separated from the crew compartment its not like tanks are unkilable but that and the fucking rebar in the tracks are stupid
>Imagine this pulling up your driveway.
Imagine this 10 million dollars abomination blowing up on $400 of fertilizer IED, ANFO Oklahoma City Bombing style!
>If any of your enemies survived after you wiped out their army and replaced their government for 20 years before going home, you lose
lol if this is the bar you want to set for yourself, then you're a loser before the fight even starts.
>Taliban gets ousted by US >wage 20 year war with goal of getting power back >do so >US now slipping globally because it’s run by geriatric retards >b-but muh kdr!
Taliban won. Get over it.
They "won" in the case that the ones that didn't fight ended up surviving. The ones that fought all got fucking killed. Are you too retarded to understand this? Do you ever experience thoughts?
>all the ones that fought got killed
Abdual Ghani Baradar is still alive and kicking. In fact he’s the number 3 guy who the US is in talks with now. It’s fucking embarrassing you think like this. >Are you too retarded to understand this? Do you ever experience thoughts?
War is politics by other means. Failure to meet the underlying political goals of a conflict means defeat. The US lost. Get over it.
>War is politics by other means.
Is there some fucking brain disease that causes you fuckwads to repeat this? You don't even fucking know what it means. You just say it, because you're a fucking idiot.
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... this is a concise fact. I don't understand what there is to not understand here?
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>t. retard whose never read on war
Clausewitz outlines it pretty well. You should read it.
>If any of your enemies survived after you wiped out their army and replaced their government for 20 years before going home, you lose
lol if this is the bar you want to set for yourself, then you're a loser before the fight even starts.
20 years of keeping israel safe! thank you for your service!
This conversation is always usually retarded because there is absolutely zero context to what the conditions and parameters are of said “civil war” kicking off
because they fetishize using military hardware to kill the people who made them mad on twitter.
yes, they are that petty and evil, it's their defining characteristic
This argument is always such a defeatist attitude. It's essentially "we should just bend over and let the government do whatever it wants because we could never beat it".
yes, a government is there to make sure the country is stable and functioning, so yeah that kind of good. You want instability and chaos just because someone may or may not take away your range toys.
they’re gonna use a non-binary xabrams to kill us bros
thing looks like a GI-Joe toy
>here's the new StacyAbramsX tank driven by Djaquanleefa
Armies filled with people who are there for political/ideological reasons rather that being "they are competent" reasons tend to preform very poorly, even with good technology and money to back them up. Of course, you should never underestimate your enemy, but just an insight.
>liberals suddenly love the government
lmao
How do you explain this? What causes this behavior in Americans?
Those liberals have always done exactly what the media told them to.
Don't try to pretend the Republicans are any different. Sorry, I forgot I asked an American. I shouldn't have expected any kind of intelligent answer.
The government touts and waves around their symbols(gay flag, trannies, morons). Before they at least pretended to represent a white and generally conservative country
Party loyalists who have had their minds fucked by Marxist professors and garden gnomes. What a waste. Imagine if liberals were pro White in America. Their fervor for their stupid shit is second to none.
isn't that just a Merkava?
no you retard also this is a technology demonstrator meaning its a look at all the cool shit we could put in a abrams kinda thing.
The abramsx as shown there will never enter serial production at least not exactly as seen there,on a sidenote i doubt they are gona start up abrams production agien ever to justify something like that they would probably go for something entierly new. But something like this might get sold as an upgrade package to 2nd hand users like australia or maybe the saudis since the m1a3 whit the new turret should show up at some point.
look at the status of the ukraine war.
neither side is using tanks in large scale anymore because they get taken out far too easily.
modern tanks are like battleships during WW2.
generals haven't figured out yet that they are obsolete.
Not true first off there are 0 tanks whit aps in ukraine second if you dont use tanks/afvs you are back to chargeing machine guns whit infantry ww1 style and noone thinks that is the better solution.
Libs only have culture war. They are in love with the current fiscal situation, so any issue they see in society must’ve been caused by some kind of social politics. These are the people that unironically love Hillary and Biden.
>molotovs your air intake
Oops
Completely perforated by 100$ basement made efp
Even better if you melt down pre-1982 copper pennies and use those for the cone...
Does any modern tank have a solution to being smashed with a bunch of molotovs? Seems to me that shit would at the very least fuck up your optics and sensory equipment pretty bad.
Just use a paintball bomb to cover their sensors. Boom I'm genius
Molotov, plus powered laundry soap mixed in for extra sticky fire, right onto the rear deck, over the air intakes for the engine.
This will trigger in fire suppression system in the engine compartment and the subsequent automatic shutdown of the engine.
Congratulations! You have scored your first Mobility Kill.
this guy fucks
very unlikely
but he's a lot of fun to have around
fuck off with your preddit speak
>Molotov, plus powered laundry soap
Why do something that retarded when dissolving styrofoam in gasoline is literally the recipe for genuine napalm?
They all do. Tanks haven't been vulnerable to that since the 70s.
lol
?t=1101
check out 18:21 and tell me how your molotov tops that
yes and the solution is literally not getting in range for one
nobody who understands what a modern MBT actually is, what its capabilities are, or what it was intended to do, will roll one into an urban area
it's like golf-carting into a fucking subway tunnel
if you need to roll in some form of armour into urban areas you use turreted MRAPs
What would an MBT ever do near or in a city, if anything?
They stay way out of molotov range and even if one of them is disabled, if the battle is won the tank can quickly be repaired..
the intake would suck you in
It's not your mum
>destroy agriculture
What will you eat?
>le molotovs
Tanks haven't been vulnerable to molotovs since Vietnam, and if they were somehow still vulnerable, they why didn't the people in Gaza use molotovs against tanks?
lol
Am i incorrect? The Israelis didn't lose a single tank during their operation in Gaza because of it's APS and other counter measures, hamas used everything including ATGMs, molotovs, and grenades but it was all invalidated by the Merkava's APS.
Hamas tried the same thing and it was still invalidate by israel's APS system.
lol please stop it's embarrassing
Explain to me how i'm wrong? Israel didn't lose a single tank in Gaza to le Molotov's because of it's APS.
they lose several patrols to hamas every week to the point most recruits have become demoralized as gaza patrol duty is considered the worst position to have. US used tanks in Vietnam, tell me how that turned out?
>they lose several patrols to hamas every week
They do NOT lmao quit kidding yourself retard.
mad little garden gnome, aren't ya?
>they why didn't the people in Gaza use molotovs against tanks
Because they get killed by the infantry support with the tank before they can get close enough.
And that's why it wouldn't be a problem for America either.
>Tanks haven't been vulnerable to molotovs since Vietnam
This is what your post said. Is your position still that tanks are invulnerable to molotovs?
Just blow up all the roads. IEDs. Cut power. Hit power plants.
Use flying columns for cross country raids.
Hit them at maintenance. Hit them at home. Assassination. Sabotage.
There's like, 10.000 ways to deal with the threat of the state versus normal people. Especially if they use incredibly complex, extremely expensive shit like ops pic
>omg 99% civs will go against the government if they bomb some random retard in his neighborhood!
>but us destroying literally all infrastructure will totally not make every citizen go against the rebellion!
fucking retard.
You only need to cut certain vital supply lines to have unlimited RW Appalachian freedom from the federal government.
You haven't thought this through, right? Say, the government uses certain highways to resupply this monster tank with fuel because its such a gas guzzler. Ok? Just blow that road. Make it unsafe for a 70 ton tank to drive over.
Why would a revolutionary militia hit their own roads they use to drive their own vehicles? You're not making sense
Then why didn't the iraqis do this in Iraq? Oh that's right it's almost like America knew that shit would be targeted so they set up surveillance and troops around key infrastructure.
Iraq was 60% of the size of texas.
because the iraqis had no ability to target american infrastructure from halfway accross the planet.
it's a very different story when the very people you are trying to oppress occupy the land that all of your food/water/power/fuel must travel through.
Holy shit, the clowns made the engine on the Abrams X even bigger.
They made the engine an even bigger Lancet target then it already was...
didnt stop the viet cong
The obligatory
If The US Government is "all knowing and all powerful" - then how the fuck did it lose to fuckers in black pajamas back in the '70s? Or even how it lost a 20 year Occupation to Dune Coons? OR even how it suffered major casualties that it couldn't even counter in the form of IEDs in 'Raq?
Or all the wonderwuffe getting smashed by 60 year old soviet doctrine and weapons
M4 888 X
Because God grants providence to the good and holy cause.
Blue pajamas. The Vietnamese killed the black pajamas.
One of my biggest red pills in recent years is the realization that the US military is actually pretty shitty. Great technology, no question. But holy shit they have sucked in virtually every war they've been a part of.
Don't forget the deindustrialization. The demoralization.
The US military is now being milked by trannies for sex change operations and HRT medication sinecures.
It also got purged by all the right leaning whites that actually know war.
Its totally ineffectual, no one wants to join anymore
not defending it but i'm pretty sure our dudes werent even allowed to shoot back if they were being fired at
if there was even like one rambo guy like mark wahlberg over there that war would have gone very differently i assure you
bootlickers and glowies will say all those losses were part of their plan
like how america abandoned a ton of military equipment and vehicles behind when they fled afghanistan and they claimed it was on purpose so the opposition could use them to ruin their own country for the usa
if that pulls up in my driveway I would climb on top of it. what will they do then? shake me off? spin the top gun toward me? trust me ive seen the morons in blm riots do this to swat cars nothing will happen.
It's called back scratching. Infantry, mostly Soviet and Japanese, in WW2 used to swarm tanks. In response tank crews began the order "scratch my back" over the radio where a nearby friendly vehicle would pour small caliber MG fire over the other's hull. It resulted in absolute butchery.
>come on mg bros
>give away your position
>I swear back scratching is a end all be all
>morons in blm riots
White man in his home gets treated differently
>if that pulls up in my driveway I would climb on top of it.
My god, I just pictured this obese Yank trying to climb the Ambrams like a retarded Chink tank man.
Tanks will not be effective in the upcoming US civil war. If the US were to deploy them, it would exclusivelybe in plains or desert states, where little fighting will occur. Even countryside would be hell for tanks. They're not rolling fortresses, they're very, VERY specialized tools.
(Abrams) - Even our fucking tanks are gnomish goddamnit
in today's world it isn't the government you need a gun to protect yourself from, it's the morons and third world subhumans they're flooding into your communities
Because they want nothing more than to see an incredibly powerful central government use all weapons at its disposal to attack rape and kill their political enemies. When you hear the statement "no government wants to rule over ashes", they don't believe that. They want to see everything that isn't a blue city turned to ash, all the women raped, all the men mutilated. Liberals are truly not human and need to be treated like roaches.
>They want to see everything that isn't a blue city turned to ash, all the women raped, all the men mutilated.
All cities are blue now, Cletus. And yes, we do want to rewild the parts of Earth you raped with extractive industries like agriculture. Burn the ruralites out and RETVRN to nature.
edgy but true
greenhouses with ai and robots will replace hillbilly farms
go vegan!
Based. The future is pod living in LGBT arcologies, 15 minute megacities, vertical bug farms, and high speed rail with no stops between cities.
So you're not going to burn down entire forests in order to kill/drive out rebels? Good to know.
Yes, we will burn out the Nazis. All the land spoiled by agriculture will have to be replanted anyway.
But I wasn't talking about land spoiled by agriculture, I was talking about forests.
They forget how easily lefties bombed everything in the 70s. You cant ban cleaning chemicals.
Crazy how people that know nothing about military technologies instantly think it's all indestructible. Convex pipe config under a road and boom, the crew are dead and the tank has lost it's purpose, not to mention tanks are rarely used against light targets unless necessary.
If you think AR15s are irrelevant, then why are you trying to take them?
>THEY'RE WEAPONS OF WAR... N-N-NO YOU CANNOT USE THEM TO WAGE W-WAR ON THE US GOVERNMENT T-THEY'RE TOO STRONG!
>80% of the military is right leaning
>the majority of people that manufacture arms are right leaning
What do they expect is going to happen? Billybob in the marines who has a confederate flag in his room is going to slaughter his neighbors because Biden told him to?
When you threaten his pension he will.
100% he will. Two years ago every cop in America would have gladly killed you for going into a grocery store without a paper mask. The military is way way worse and will follow any order. This was decided in the 1950s for fucks sake.
Billy Bob is actually Pablo and Pablo will absolutely shoot at anyone he is ordered to (especially white people)
This, Anyone that thinks a government employee is their friend has their rights, safety, or interests in mind is a fucking idiot that is in for a big surprise.
Most don’t even get a pension, you retard
Military fags are just that fags.
Theyl listen to the big man first.
>Why do libs want to cause a civil war because of some rifles?
Last year your people started a war because aa reason
It’s ok, the politicians who order the Abrams around have homes. They have children. They have predictable routines. And their private security forces have homes, families, and predictable routines as well.
That looks like shit
>And their private security forces have homes, families, and predictable routines as well
I think this is the hard part. People don't want to hurt those who are just doing it for the paycheck to feed their families. Its mentally difficult to accept that the hands of the establishment need to be forced harder than any other part. Giving them the chance to go home to their families and let the natural process happen without them is difficult to standardize and convince until they're completely overwhelmed
>Inb4 politicans also start travelling in tanks and living in bunkers.
I'm afraid to ask but how much does it cost to produce one?
why are libs advocating for government fascism lmao
>HAHA YOU CAN'T STAND AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT
>TAKE THAT
Neoliberal fascism is real
They locked down churches with police
We are already at war, the peace is broken
Tyranny is a breaking of the peace against the people
So this man supports using tanks against American citizens.
He supports the killing of American citizens, remember that.
This is what we call a loyalist, loyal to these chomo elites.
>AR-15
The AR-10 is my weapon of choice for the revolution.
The Taliban took out Abrams tanks with $60 improvised mines.
The Ukrainians take out heavy armor with dirt cheap quadcopter drones loaded with basic munitions.
It's not tanks and planes that win wars, it is public support. That is how third worlders defeated the US military, the most powerful military in the world, in Afghanistan and Vietnam.
But we aren't third worlders, we are Americans. We have over 60 million gun owners and now over 400 million guns. We aren't a foreign country on the other side of the world.
To contrast, the government has 1-2 million armed personnel, max, not including the ones that join the revolution.
You do the math. We have the arms, the veterans lit the spark. Keep organizing in arms, even a local militia. It's your Constitutional right.
https://www.militarynewbie.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/TM-21-210-Improvised-Munitions-Handbook-1969-Department-of-the-Army.pdf
Saved, maybe one day it'll make itself useful. Thanks anon
Sorry I already buried a copper plate shape charge in my driveway. Already waiting for an MRAP from SWAT or Abrams from the military.
These fucking people should consider we literally JUST lost Afghanistan after pouring everything we had into for decades.
A bunch of goat fuckers with ieds were too much for these fucks but they are going to be super effective against us for some reason?
Try fucking winning a goddamned war with all the money you’ve been stealing from us before you think you have an effective deterrent.
Liberals are so fucking dumb holy shit lol
What’s the quickest way to start Civil War 2 and get 99% of the population to fight against the government? Have the government start bombing random houses in your neighborhoods.
Liberals are the dumbest mother fuckers on the planet who only exist to simp for the state establishment.
Libs have a bloodlust they aren't willing to admit
This. So much repression and projection coming from the left. There's some on the right, too. But we aren't as emotionally unstable as they are. I guess that's what competence does.
The left thrives on self-hate and self loathing. Projection is the most sincere form of insult for them.
Its pretty unnerving. I've also realized that they hate everything and everyone, including themselves. That's why they sound so deranged when their unloading on what they think is an acceptable target surrounded by like-minded people. They are, at their core, pure bundles of hateful misanthropic energy. Your typical Klansman could never measure up to their basic level of hatred.
I would shoot at the tank and die before I gave them my guns. Check mate libtards I pay my taxes! How are you going to suck me dry if you kill me!
*blocks your path*
laser anon would burn right through their armor and fry the crew
Imagine trying to spend all that money on tanks for the entire country, to find out nobody wants to fucking fuel them up anymore. Gee willickers
They don't remember my Uncle?
Imagine cheering on the military just executing your fellow American just because you don’t agree with them. I’m all for civil war at this point. Fuck the left and the right. You are both cancer and deserve what’s coming your way
>gov is powerful and can kill you easily so dont be armed
what kind of argument is this
demoralization
>pulling up in my driveway
>without crashing through the 10-ton max weight limit bridge
>lol
>lmao
That argument was always retarded. Libs seriously think there would be no pushback from soldiers if they were told to fire on their own people?
Also accidentally blow up someone's sister with a tank or air strike and see how much their family, friends, or town continue to support your government.
Hell our government couldn't even beat the bunch of fuckwads with AK-47s, the number of armed American citizens makes that look like nothing, and considering most of those own more than 1 they could easily double that number.
Kek, General Dynamics is so creatively bankrupt at this point it has to result to welding some angled slabs of sheet metal to a 1970's hull and paint it gray to make it look more futuristic, just like Twardy and 2A7. Instead of experimenting with some actually progressive fast light tank design with advanced stabilization and continuous streaming ballistic calculus and pattern recognition assisted target tracking and efficient fast firing unmanned turret, capable of repetitive hits on target even at 60kph in off road.
Zoomer engineers do not even know what files are, its all over.
Demoncrats really can't understand dying for any cause other than Black emancipation. The government can kills hundreds of thousands of us, there will still be millions more to take their place. There is no victory for them other than bombing major cities. That wouldn't be much of a victory for them considering America would revert to being +90% white.
>Almost 1m views
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Less than .0001 likes to views
Love how Muskrat made the site actually free.
>the tanks will stand around on street corners enforcing laws
I can't even summon up the energy to mock these retards anymore.
> Somebody J Walks
> Abrams: *Fires at that somebody and kills them with Canister Shot*
> The Public (in the Abrams Operator's mind): *Cheers*
> The Public (in Reality): *is VERY visibly horrified and begins to dogpile on the Abrams*
Maybe the libs do, but the US government's entire shtick with dealing with a civil war is to make sure it never happens via infiltration of organized groups, Stasi like tactics to make people paranoid, and keeping people addicted to distractions. No telling if one would start, but it would most definitely need a leader to rally behind, which unfortunately is lacking (as of this moment, the right only has civic nationalist cuckolds who are scared to death of doing anything other than grifting).
If a civil war did start, people would go after pipelines, the electrical grid, key highways, and railroads in small groups or even alone rather than marching in columns at the nearest tank. And if a war does start here, expect a lot of people to leave, especially liberals, elites and their pet post 1965 migrants.
>If a civil war did start, people would go after pipelines, the electrical grid, key highways, and railroads in small groups or even alone rather
Don't forget the fiber lines. Literally one man with a rifle and basic hand tools can destroy infrastructure around the country. There have been a few attacks on substations already and I don't think the government has ever caught any of the people involved.
That's also true, and someone real ballsy can go after an underseas cables as well.
maybe Dr Evil was really onto something with the sharks with laserbeams idea
the combat vets would be picking off regulars like turkey hunting - us gov knows this
tank driver has a mom tho?
But first you gotta find 'em and rope 'em (i.e. tie 'em up).
i would never hurt a fellow american (unless put in a self defense situation)
Okay gay. Then you work either in Logistics, Medical, and/or fucking Signals. Leave shit like that to folks like me - I personally don't like the Government Bootlickers and they deserve to pay the ultimate price for being such traitorous fucks.
> ACK!
You realize a tank would just roll right over that, right?
I can't think of one war the united states military has won since wwii, and wwii was won by the russians.
> TFW The US lost The Philippines Insurgency and that was 2 years shy the length of Afghanistan
> TFW The US pulled out only after 50 US Army Rangers died in Mogadishu
> TFW The US Military APPARENTLY trains for war, however, it fucking sucks every time it actually does fight a fucking war - WELL rather it sucks once it heads into a Military Occupation following a Conventional Conflict but still
It’s just power fantasies that they have because they’re naturally weak people and are still seething over rittenhouse smoking some pedoleftists, people they identify with. Also, they think if they shill for the state, the state will turn around and share their power sometime in the distant future as a reward.
The ar-15 isn't for the tank; it's for the driver's wife and kids, "safe" at home, miles away.
You just gotta get the driver outta there and ID them. Or probably ID the driver in question via the local National Guard Unit.
Or you just go to every house that you know has someone in the military. No need to ID specific actors when they're all guilty.
You're right anon. Got a good point there. Fuck them all.
someone please post the chatgpt dr seuss revolutionary poem
You see Ivan, USA used to be a place where it was a somewhat "the harder and more honestly you worked, the more you got rewarded for it." but now, it become,...russia 2.0
The End
How much of a support structure is needed to field a tank like the abram's. you don't attack the tank you attack the support structure.
Kinda hard to run a tank without fuel.
Hell Battle Order made a video on it.
Sauce: https://youtu.be/cgeVuwxOkAo
in the early days of war ukraine targeted russian fuel trucks to the point they resorted to disguising them.
i see you are a man of culture as well.
US Army Logistics is a pretty interesting subject.
it is especially if you served as a tanker. the us army is playing the logistics game on creative mode.
*Fucks up your tank for $299*
>invalidates your drone
uh oh
we already see supersized versions of pic rel in Ukraine
>Build drone that looks like a bird
>Radar made ineffective
Israel's trophy APS (the same one that Abrams uses) are able to take out rockets traveling at 300m/s, i doubt a drone traveling far slower than that will be able hit an abrams.
Send decoys to waste countermeasures. your overpriced piece of shit can be destroyed by an IED.
Good luck at sending 48 drones at once.
The trophy APS has full 360 protection, so yes it won't be a problem retard, that exact scenario happened in Gaza numerous times and everytime it happened, it failed.
Yeah it won't shoot every "bird", but the moment a "bird" is 10 meters away from it traveling at 100kms an hour, i think the aps would attack it then.
Fireworks, now you got enough tips
But my bird drone will be the size and average speed of a hawk. Good luck.
Fake and gay, won't be able to see the 2nd one let alone have an answer for the 4th. IN ADDITION, a system is always several orders of magnitude easier to destroy than it is to build, that's a fact. Have faith in your star treck tech in your portable coffin retard.
Fucking retard the trophy APS has 360 protection, multiped rockets attacking a single tank happened in Gaza and it still couldn't get passed the APS.
rockets from multiple directions =! several dropped objects with the same vector, with a brief time delay between them. Retarded gnomish moron gay.
Or some plain old satchel bombs and anti-tank grenades
I'm sure a rebel will get close enough to throw a anti-tank grenade at a modern tank, real sure fucking retard.
To be fair, I would not want to get in line of sight of the machine gun, but the retards on here thinking a tank will battle a militia man like it's a fucking pokemon battle are fucking retarded.
those quadcopter drones won't be able to do shit against tanks. Do idiots here really believe those things are equivalent to a shahed drone? Why the fuck are people so stupid?
See
Is it 4 rockets coming from directly above, shit ass?
Anon, do you think that APS shoots every fucking bird out of the sky that flies near it? No. Because, the radar signature of a bird is not a threat and is likely filtered from the radar screen as to not cause sensory overload to the guy operating it. You have no idea how any of this shit works.
i have a pack of trained orangutans that are very cute to look at but are secretly trained killers that could easily disable that
This is designed for missles not FPV
And that's just because the FPV speed
Israel's APS engaged drones in Gaza.
lol imagine some dumb fat 70 IQ black woman driving this thing through your neighborhood, it'd fall in the first ditch and explode
I mean... they're right, the fuck is your range toy going to do to a tank? Now think about what it can do to a jet, fucking nothing.
If the AR-15 is so puny and useless why do you want to ban them? You gays simultaneously say they are useless and a powerful weapon of war no civilian is qualified to own.
So we'd have less mass shootings. Those murdering psychos are not shooting at tanks with these things, you dumb FUCK.
You're right, every person in America should have their own tank to protect them at all times.
yeah, and then we'd have no roads left, what a genius idea. How about we also ban airsoft guns just like you guys did?
Pretty sure you're thinking of Australia, airsoft is fine here. Also tanks don't have to run on bare metal tracks.
>So we'd have less mass shootings
The overwhelming majority of mass shootings are moron on moron using handguns. If. A white man had done pic related with an illegal full auto it would have been national news. But since it was. A moron murdering another moron with an illegal full auto it isn't even a blip on the media radar.
....okay? Sounds like banning guns and enforcing it is a great idea.
That gun in my webm was already illegal, gay. I am sure making it DOUBLE illegal would stop the moron, who most likely makes his money trafficking illegal goods, from having it.
wrong, that gun may have been legal but the glock switch was not. Glock switches are extremely easy to make/buy, but they're useless once the guns are banned and taken away (forcibly).
so, you intend to give JUST the police the guns then? werent you all just protesting the police? wait. how does that work?
yes, and I never protested the police, don't project.
murder is already illegal, a gun ban would help enforce that.
>muh morons
Doesn't matter, all guns will be taken away.
>Doesn't matter, all guns will be taken away
Gun rights are expanding at the state level. Assault weapon bans and magazine bans keep getting overturned as unconstitutional Cope and seethe.
>things will never change
Too bad, there's going to be a breaking point, and it will happen.
>Noooooo!
Just a warning, they'll probably just ignore the ruling and continue to enforce it, or make some other weird regulation to defacto legalize it.
the current administration is actively working to rig the next election by levying criminal investigations against their chief political rivals.
we have reached banana republic levels of governmental legitimacy.
we are very close to a naked tyranny where the only authority the agencies of the government rely upon is the strength of their arms and all law will be enacted in the form of decrees.
these people aren't planning on losing an election ever again.
they don't care what judgements are made against them because they will just do whatever they want because they have the guns.
the judicial branch has no power.
the legislative branch has no power.
the executive himself is just a figurehead.
the true rulers of this country are the heads of the three letter agencies and the corporate oligarchs they collude with.
we already live in a fascist state, they just haven't announced it yet.
damn well at least you're honest. i never protested police so i couldn't possibly be projecting, fyi. was pretty clear from my statement
Why would I protest the police when they're the main enforcers of the law? It was a dumb assumption to make.
true. i guess if you really think the government has your best interests at heart then more power to you.
no no no you're right they definitely make laws up just to fuck with you
yeah which is why we NEVER detected them huh?
They were spotted by nerds on Twitter
no they weren't
The very first sighting was reported by civilian passengers on an airplane
that's incidental. they make laws to benefit themselves. im surprised that you think they have your best interest at heart.
they still need people to rule over, and keeping americans safer benefits everyone.
well. they are safe from who exactly? the rulers or the people? shouldn't all guns, including the military and police be banned, in the name of safety? fireworks too? things like that.
from mass murderers you dumb FUCK.
mass murderers like hitler, pol pot, mao, stalin? or? also there's no reason to be angry. everyone is entitled to their opinion.
real Dinesh hours
what a fucking idiot you are, no dumb FUCK, the ones in the news every few weeks in AMERICA, I don't give a shit about what happens in other countries, fuck em.
you should probably read about those people if you don't know who they are. they were actually defeated with guns, and generally are considered to be mass murderers.
yeah, mao was defeated with guns, kek.
then we are in agreement. guns and self defense against tyranny is a good thing. i knew wed find a middle ground
no, dumb ass, you said these tyrants were defeated by guns and yet you listed both mao and stalin, none of whom died by guns. You fucked yourself. Hell, even hitler committed suicide via pills and the gun was just insurance lmao.
we are in agreement! it's a good think to resist tyranny with guns.
what a stubborn fuck lmao
i dont understand? isnt tyranny bad?? or were these guys good guys. guns were used to defend against them. i thought we were in agreement on this. tyranny=bad
lmao, yeah, mao and stalin totally lost, okay
you realize it's not like a marvel movie right? there's not some epic final showdown right? the world is complex, and tyranny is bad. so we should resist tyranny with guns. i thought we were in agreement on this? tyranny = bad right?
actually that wasn't the point of our little exchange, way to change the subject though, bravo
its not like a marvel movie. outside of maybe math, there isn't some "point" theres only opinions.. i think we are in agreement though: tyranny=bad, use guns to resist tyranny.
>this retard is lecturing me now
Kek
if three sentences is a lecture, it says a heck of a lot about you. again, i think we both agree guns resist tyranny ! im really glad we could come to a middle ground on this!
Hey newfag, thread’s over and (You) killed it by clogging up one out of every ten posts ITT sucking circumcised cock.
>"n-no you can't post more than x times because I said so!"
Too fucking bad buddy
the government kills more people than mass shooters.
mass shootings are statistical anomalies overblown in significance by the federal government in an attempt to scare you into surrendering your rights.
you are far more likely to be killed by LIGHTNING than a mass shooter.
wake
the
fuck
up
>the government kills more people than mass shooters.
How?
>inb4 muh replacement
not really.
the people in charge of the country right now are the same people who believe the world has too many white people in it.
they don't care if you die, and in fact, they want you to be the victim of random violence because then you will beg them to take away your rights in exchange for the illusion of safety.
morons don't by legal guns because most moron males are felons.
Do you think it would be feasible to catch every illegal immigrant in the USA and deport them?
No?
Then why do you think forcibly confiscating every gun is even remotely possible when it would be a several times larger and .kre difficult task? It is literally NEVER going to be possible. There are more guns in the USA than people.
obviously it won't be easy or fast. Anyone caught owning guns after a deadline will be punished. Severely.
If the state feels it can "severely" punish someone for a malum prohibitum crime then I guess I should use that tool to defend myself from them
See what happens.
We're pretty much at the point that government pretends to honor our rights and we pretend murdering tyrants and enforcers is bad. I'd personally love for the masks to come off.
that's just you.
just you? okay, see what happens.
Hardly.
>just you? okay, see what happens.
Yes, just me with my trusty shovel. I can tell you what will happen. You won't be able to get in the Internet and shill anymore.
Your life will end in a mass grave for the WEF. You are weak. The government is weak. I am better than you.
I would go on the offensive before that deadline ever came.
Do you plan on banning 3D printers and CNC machines too?
Are you retarded? Obviously not, but if you're going to be using them to make fucking weapons, yeah.
and I'm pretty fucking sure manufacturing weapons without a license is fucking illegal
Yes sharpening sticks now requires a license.
if you intend to fucking kill someone with it, then yes. That's an extra charge for you. God, you're a fucking retard
fyi, it's not illegal. i dont know where you got that from
or maybe we just ban murder.
Yea, maybe they should make a law or something.
godDAMN was that like a 60 round mag it hit every car behind lmao
I bet there is something you can put in the fuel that would destroy it; hundreds or thousand of miles away from the actual tank.
I bet some anon has already figured out what this "Hispanicy additive" is, and has stockpiled a few thousand pounds of it.
Maybe liquid mercury? Or something that releases hydrogen causing the engine to embrittle and crack?
morons with handguns kill 1000x more people each year than "racists" with AR15s.
>Send decoys to waste countermeasures.
Large firework rockets wrapped in tin foil.
>i have a pack of trained orangutans that are very cute to look at but are secretly trained killers that could easily disable that
Is that you Vlad?
>morons with handguns kill 1000x more people each year than "racists" with AR15s.
okay, and? They're part of the murdering psychos category.
They can't stay inside the tanks forever.
They can if you weld the door shut woth thermite 🙂
Hell weld the Bore with Thermite. INSTANT De-Activation kill - especially since they would have to haul the AbramsX ALL the way back to the factory and have it "re-armed". Just imagine that doing that to an entire Battalion's worth of Tanks.
you're right an AR15 would do nothing to that, however, the 480lbs of fertilizer underneath the manhole cover wired up to a raspberry pi with accelerometer ground sensor will.
>giant tank, somehow on a regular parking lot without damaging the pavement
i think we can safely say this one is a meme, but i wonder how heavy a real one will be, some 80 ton tank rolling down the street is going to have a bad time...
Tanks not going to roll through here very well.
Tanks are designed to roll through exactly that kind of terrain.
All you need is a thermos full of thermite.
They fantasize about being the Commissars in the Bolshevik revolution. They will just end up dead since garden gnomes don't want any competition. The crazy part about these morons is they have never been in real combat, and think that having a tank equates to an automatic win condition.
If you blow up the track, the tank is as good as dead. Just do a 360 and walk away. Ez as.
in some cases a tank is a killing machine, striking fear into the hearts of your enemies.
in some cases it's a coffin loaded with explosives
ZOGBOT tankers have mothers and wives
Are you sure Hernandez, Tyrone, and Juan really care? 2 weeks without gibsmedats and they will run away.
Tanks also need parts and fuel to function, which are completely reliant on local infrastructure. You also need competent crews with a high morale so that tanks aren't just abandoned on the side of the road at the first sign of trouble.
>citizens rise up against the government
>use cities as cover
>government kills millions of bystanders trying to hit multiple guys shooting from different buildings
I’m not left or right, I’m just anti fed and I think both left or right could over throw the US government pretty easily and the fed is terrified of people actually doing. They can’t win a war when any real action would lead to civilian casualties.
shouldn't have hid behind others like cowards if you didn't want civilian death.
remember the greatest military force in world history spent 20 years fighting a bunch of goat herders and opium farmers and they took over before we could even get out.
sure the us government could carpet bomb and roll tanks through its cities and kill millions to exert control, but a government, any government, even an occupation government, needs some form of legitimacy and consent over the ruled. when it loses that, it is in for a very bad time and won't last long.
except most normal people would not side with you lunatics.
Most "normal people" do not participate in conflicts, they either sit by and watch, or run away to a different country.
who is going to side with the government when they are going ape shit on regular citizens, flattening cities, rolling into neighborhoods with giant tanks, etc?
Why do you think Israel is so hated? Because they do shit like that without any remorse.
No, I hate Israel because they are kites, alot of what they do would be based af otherwise...I want an extremely violent right wing theocratic ethnostate, just not for garden gnomes.
How good does it work if it happened to run over a tarp covering a deep hole camouflaged with gravel to match your driveway?
They will just open the door and swim to the surface.
Who said anything about water?
A mini excavator can dig 14ft deep.
>let's the grass grow tall
NATO tactics BTFO!
Because they are very mentally ill.
>I FUCKING LOVE A MILITARIZED GOVERMENT OPPRESSING ITS CITIZENS
>Why do libs want to cause a civil war because of some rifles?
They think a civil war is "we the people" vs "the federal army", if the amerimuts had any education at all they would know that civil wars start in earnest when the army splits in two. So there will be people in each side with these wunderwaffen tanks that probably burn like any other tank when they are shelled.
Doesn't look like it has an active radar or a way to counter the drone threat, looks like they've had their head up their ass the entire Ukraine/Russian conflict. I understand the mines problem but they do have de-mining rollers that can be placed on them but those are so-so at best and can only withstand a few hits from mines before rollers need to be replaced.
Whenever someone suggest that government would use some multi million dollar war machine to hunt down insurgents, I see this scene play in my head.
>gets hit by arty once
>all the cameras break
>the tracks break
>shiiiieeeeeeetttt I can't see
>abandon tank
A civil war could easily be won with a few handguns alone. It's not about firepower, it's about the target. That's why they want to take your guns. The entire argument is stupid.
its insane. they dont fucking understand what it would be like. pure chaos and they wouldn't be spared. it's like they WANT a tyrannical government to come make everyone's lives as shitty as their own.
>You better fear your government
Boot licking lefties
SNEED
I imagine it getting stuck in mud and falling into anti-tank ditches like everything I’ve seen in Ukraine
Still will get turned into scrap metal driving over ieds.
>dude what if one guy rises up and they drive a tank to his house!!
These are the same people that were convinced there was going to be blood in the streets when a bunch of facebook memers walked into the congress building and that they had to leave for Canada to avoid literal Trump death squads
Right wingers will never do shit, half of them believes this country is controlled by satanic, cannibalistic pedophiles and if that doesn't make them start a civil war, nothing will.
They don't have to, you are crashing the country
Two more weeks for government collapse Sista?
Because they're arrogant obnoxious gays who think they understand how the world really works from their shoebox apartment in <insert US metropolitan shithole here>
The only thing worse than an idiot is an idiot that thinks they're smart.
>Don't buy weapons since the military can flatten you with a tank
Retarded message, always buy weapons.
The rifle is for shooting you, not the tank.
Built for EFP
I find it ironic that that are no right wing people threatening liberals with the govt.
We threaten them. They say "well you can't fight the govt"
We aren't fighting them. We will be fighting you.
>the government will save me from you
Why would you expect a different attitude from people who literally expect government to be their mommy and daddy?
>inb4 Marvel fag
Back when marvel had some good stories.
They taught me a valuable lesson.
$2,000,000 mech suit < $200 RPG
$8 million CV90 was taken out by RPG
That just looks like the basic Cold War tank with some 3D-printed shit on it to make it look futuristic to functional retards that haven't realized that American military-industrial complex is a scam.
have to come out to eat eventually
Russia will airdrop us some RPGs
how? they'll never make it within our airspace
Those Chinese balloons snuck in like it was nothing
They were detected in the Pacific first retard.
just use a sticky bomb on the tank
yeah I'm starting to think all of you antigovernment gays in here are chinese or russian trolls/shills. Fuck off, it's way too obvious. You will never stir shit up here.
Your govemrnet is enforcing global moron regime
>not an american
yep, just like I said, thanks for proving my point retard.
Your whole point is muh morons good.
>yeah I'm starting to think all of you antigovernment gays in here are chinese or russian trolls/shills. Fuck off, it's way too obvious. You will never stir shit up here.
show flag, chink
>show flag, chink
>and the russhit buttbuddy arrives to defend his chink pal
kek
>>and the russhit buttbuddy arrives to defend his chink pal
>Threaten citizens
>Call them russian agents when they complain
Evil glowmoron
show flag you dumb chink
Hello, fed
>this tank will help me kill americans in a shtf scenario!
Lmao
There's not enough words to describe this retardation
What rifles?
this little divide and conquer shit you shills are trying to pull in here? Yeah, it's not working
How much fuel does it use and where are the refineries? It's easy to operate war machines when the infrastructure they depend on is safe on another continent.
hahaha the squishy carbon life form that operates the tank lives in a house with his family.
A soldier and his family will definitely not be living at their homes during a civil war, they will be living at a base.
nah these anons can geolocate their family members before the government can stop them from killing innocents. Insane right?
Considering the military’s habit of pulling out of conflict and leaving millions of dollars in vehicles/ordinance for their enemies to take, I would encourage them to roll that into my driveway.
Imagine sneaking into the home of the guy delivering the fuel with your AR.
I beg your pardon?
Yeah, and a well placed molotov cocktail from a $100 eBay kit drone will still fuck that engine up and pressure cook the crew real good. That or a copper plate pressured to a cup full of blackpowder wired to a pressure sensor to the side/undercarriage. Even better is a simple piece of rebar launched in between the tracks and the gears.
yeah nothing like telling the whole world your plan. You do realize posts are archived? Forever?
Oh no! Now the government knows that in this theoretical scenario where tanks are used against US citizens, this guy would fight back. Its over.
i would to
That’s all common knowledge you can find in baby’s first PrepHole thread, at least before it got ~~*flooded*~~ last year. You can find all of that on a Wikipedia article or two.
yeah, that'll hold up in court.
Okay. Too bad I do not care and neither do any jurisdictions outside of sheriff Mike Chitwood when anons troll him. Besides, knowledge isn’t illegal, only using it is. All I’m doing is pointing at that no amount of modern tech can defend against guerilla tactics that take advantage of fundamental design weaknesses of all tanks since WW2 at least.
you can't arrest all of us, but I'd love to see you try
Did you know that a high-powered laser can blind a federal agent, police officer or soldier in 1/15th of a second? Did you know that a high-powered laser can destroy cameras and other sensing equipment within seconds of exposure?
did you know your post is archived and can be used against you if you tried anything like that?
No one will care if some crazy gun autists got flattened for shooting at cops.
Man, they're really shitting themselves at Eglin today, huh?
They literally riot every time a moron gets shot after shooting people though
nope, stop projecting, I don't give a fuck about morons
Well you keep repeating it like you wanna brainwash me or something, fuck off already.
tyranny=bad, and guns resist tyranny, i know we have differences, but I'm happy we could come to this middle ground!
Anon, were not telling them anything they shouldn't have learned in the ME.
reminder that fed morons always try to scare anons by warning them their posts are archived.
we are rapidly approaching the point where it won't matter.
try the mass crackdowns you fetishize and you will find that political assassinations will be happening faster than you can investigate and prosecute the culprits.
this is not a threat, it's a warning
scare anons? It was a friendly reminder, buddy.
>fuck that engine up and pressure cook the crew real good
its not ww1 any more retard the engine is separated from the crew compartment its not like tanks are unkilable but that and the fucking rebar in the tracks are stupid
Didn't work in Gaza, it's so fucking funny to watch you retards think modern western mbt's don't have counter measures against molotovs.
keep sucking Israeli cock I'm sure they'll pay you your 20 pieces of silver, gay.
>Imagine this pulling up your driveway.
Imagine this 10 million dollars abomination blowing up on $400 of fertilizer IED, ANFO Oklahoma City Bombing style!
They were always the real bootlickers
how many millions of printed muttshekels in maintenance does it need to move this shit?
Wait til the Chinese get their hands on it's ventilation schematics.
Some things never change. War is hell.
lmao, America should send a couple of those XERbrams to Ukraine for the ukies to try out, I'm sure that'll end well for them
Those tanks didn't have APS
But it doesn't really matter; in the end, ruskies or whoever else will find a way to fool that system as well.
That's a pretty funny show model. Didn't even mow down the crowd. Nice job. Lets see how it does in the ukraine kek
Oh wow. How quickly would that get blown up in Ukraine?
Laughs in Taliban
Taliban got fucked mauled by the US military, dumbshit.
Only the ones that hid from battle survived. It's a dumb-as-fuck comparison.
t. losing flag
>If any of your enemies survived after you wiped out their army and replaced their government for 20 years before going home, you lose
lol if this is the bar you want to set for yourself, then you're a loser before the fight even starts.
>Taliban gets ousted by US
>wage 20 year war with goal of getting power back
>do so
>US now slipping globally because it’s run by geriatric retards
>b-but muh kdr!
Taliban won. Get over it.
They "won" in the case that the ones that didn't fight ended up surviving. The ones that fought all got fucking killed. Are you too retarded to understand this? Do you ever experience thoughts?
>all the ones that fought got killed
Abdual Ghani Baradar is still alive and kicking. In fact he’s the number 3 guy who the US is in talks with now. It’s fucking embarrassing you think like this.
>Are you too retarded to understand this? Do you ever experience thoughts?
War is politics by other means. Failure to meet the underlying political goals of a conflict means defeat. The US lost. Get over it.
>War is politics by other means.
Is there some fucking brain disease that causes you fuckwads to repeat this? You don't even fucking know what it means. You just say it, because you're a fucking idiot.
... this is a concise fact. I don't understand what there is to not understand here?
>t. retard whose never read on war
Clausewitz outlines it pretty well. You should read it.
this, it was 20 years of uncontested DOMINATION.
20 years of keeping israel safe! thank you for your service!
DAMN! Full-bird US Army colonels and Public Health Service admirals look like THAT!?
This conversation is always usually retarded because there is absolutely zero context to what the conditions and parameters are of said “civil war” kicking off
because they fetishize using military hardware to kill the people who made them mad on twitter.
yes, they are that petty and evil, it's their defining characteristic
>30 dollar EFP blocks your path.
>m-muh tanks aren't as insane as you think they are!
That's not the point retard, your peashooters are nothing compared to military equipment
Tank traps are a thing
This isn't ww2 anymore retard.
you think tanks are invincible ok thats nice (pats head)
This argument is always such a defeatist attitude. It's essentially "we should just bend over and let the government do whatever it wants because we could never beat it".
Zogbots are just as bad as glowmorons. Just look itt. Pathetic
>ANYONE I DON'T LIKE IS A ZOGBOT
Shut the fuck up, you're not even american, none of this concerns you
Talks like a duck etc etc
again, not your fucking problem sven, don't butt in.
Never served in the military, never will (unless drafted)
not my job, not my problem
>will go when drafted
Fed fag
it's either that or jail, not much of a choice
>Never served in the military, never will
So you’re just a fucking retard who really thinks the federal government is a force for good?
He gets benefits from the government taking your tax money (he's a chud)
yes, a government is there to make sure the country is stable and functioning, so yeah that kind of good. You want instability and chaos just because someone may or may not take away your range toys.
Written like somebody who works for the ZOG. How's the USAF treating you?
moron
what about a makeshift mine?