Why do africans keep chimping out and kicking out France for wagner even though it inevitably ends in this?
Why do africans keep chimping out and kicking out France for wagner even though it inevitably ends in this?
Why do africans keep chimping out and kicking out France for wagner even though it inevitably ends in this?
Because malians officials need a second marble mansion to house their 13 wives
Muhfuggin whitey get out
>Inb4 France isn't white
The people that get sent in Africa ironically are.
No concept of delayed gratification, inability to emphasize or carry any sense of gratification. It mostly goes like this:
>White man say country can be rich
>but must give gold to build learning buildings and medicine houses
>too much work
>russian say ME can be rich
>just let them dig gold, and they give some back
>no work for me
Well there's that Botswanan president. That's it really.
I need context.
Botswana is one of the few places in africa where when they found diamond mines they didnt fight moronic civil wars over them and instead invested the revenue into public infrastructure and education etc. the first president who had previously been a king was responsible for this iirc
Thanks
Other point. One of the biggest reasons why decolonization was such a shock to African countries was the mass brain drain since the most of the people who knew how to use anything more advanced than a plow up and left. Botswana’s president paid some of the euros out the ass to stay for a while and teach people shit. Tragically they’re now being flooded by dipshits from neighboring failed states who want gibs.
This. People act like 50 years is enough to literally rebuild a society that has been intentionally gimped of intelligence and the ability to maintain infrastructure.
It's laziness. European powers got what they want(or can't stay anymore), why would they invest in what is now a failed colony?
Hell even in the developed world a lot of governments lack the foresight on what to do with Raw resource deposits. They can be more of a curse than a blessing.
Problem with them is because everyone wants to buy your raw resources, the value of your currency keeps rising. With rising of the currency all other of your exports become more expensive. Which means everything NOT raw resource based starts getting broke as it becomes too expensive for exports.
And since raw resource sector pays well for low education it ALSO means you have more and more school dropouts, so there is a massive "brain drain" by virtue of future generations not interested in getting one.
So if eventually your resource sector contracts, you no longer have the workforce required to turn back into an industrial economy.
This phenomenon is called the "Dutch Disease" since it was first identified in the Dutch natural gas industry. In general: every resource rich country is a shithole in terms of standards of living. And it's not a coincidence. "But what about Arabia" you may ask "they are all rich". Yes... because they have a colorful interpretation on who counts as a citizen. 90% of their inhabitants are basically slaves, but since they are foreign slaves they don't count into the statistics. But once you do the country's standard of living are in abject poverty.
So that means, if you are rich in raw resources, you need to CONSTANTLY spend that money to keep the value of your currency from inflating (i.e. Norway's Foreign Wealth Fund). You need to spend, and spend and spend some more. Even get yourself in debt over it (pretty ironic, I know). That's the ONLY way to combat the "Dutch Disease".
I would spend on public infrastructure, nuclear power plants, trains, subways, food industry and desalinization via excess heat from nuclear power plants
Aaaand a huge program to grow population of Croatian superhumans, and make sure to push a new culture of fanatic, hard working, proud, national chauvinistic Chads that value effort and responsibility. Goal would be to reach 5.5mil till 2055, 9.5 mil and almost completely new Croat pop till 2085.
No cancer gays, no poor cardio health vermin, no slow people, no weak chins, no addiction predisposition bums, no depression turds
>This phenomenon is called the "Dutch Disease" since it was first identified in the Dutch natural gas industry.
It's known simply as "Resource Curse" from where am I. Africa is full of it, South America deeply in it and Russia has it as well.
If he was a king, then he was higher than normal men by birth. That cancels out his Black personliness.
>implying they wasn't all kangz
When Botswana got independence it was basically empty. It had a ridiculously low level of literacy and little resources except diamonds. Based Khama turned them into the most functioning african nation by pushing education and laws to prevent corruption. They still got fricked by aids and some corruption but Botswana is pretty nice. I went a few years ago with work and its safer than most western cities.
That's usually why they don't really care about punishment for crimes. Imagine you see a sign that says "No jaywalking, 15 glorpforf fine". You have no idea what a glorpforf is, so it doesn't carry much weight to you. For the African, a 10-25 year sentence doesn't mean anything, they're physically incapable of perceiving time in that manner
This post is the male equivalent of when women charge crystals by moonlight.
Jesus, fresh off the boat off reddit. I guess you were not here when 4chinz discovered like 7 years ago what "African time" was... Kek.
>"African time"
QRD for a newbie like me?
Some dude who claimed to have worked in Africa says that Africans don't have the ability to plan long-term because many African languages lack words for things far in the future or describing things with much precision. Things like not having a future tense or only being able to say something is up in a tree, but not only halfway or at the top. The counter to this is I've heard that southeast Asian languages also have very simplified tenses for the past and future and they can obviously plan for the future.
>Some dude who claimed to have worked in Africa says that Africans don't have the ability to plan long-term because many African languages lack words for things far in the future or describing things with much precision. Things like not having a future tense or only being able to say something is up in a tree, but not only halfway or at the top. The counter to this is I've heard that southeast Asian languages also have very simplified tenses for the past and future and they can obviously plan for the future.
This is Bullshit worked in africa as a translator.BTW
No surprise here, I don't know anything about African languages or culture, so I took it with an very large grain of salt. But /misc/ really ran away with it and it gets mentioned a fair amount, so I figured I'd share with newbie.
jesus christ you sound like such a fricking loser lmao
can you explain the "no word for promise" claims? which language(s) did you work?
Time continuity is actually a very advanced concept. We have it because we were raised in culture where, simplifying, history "begun in Rome/Egypt and came to today", but it wasn't so obvious for more primitive cultures, even like original indo-european which we came from. Basic understanding for a simple man would be that time is, in fact, cyclic, time doesn't start anywhere and doesn't go into any point, it's cycled on itself and repeats continuously, that's a natural understanding you'll get when all you see is how day changes with night, summer with winter and old with youth and backwards for all your life. You can see it everywhere, a lot of mythos in a lot of cultures comprehend reality in that way or have traces of it, pajeets even persisted with it and have it as a cornerstone of their religions now.
So there would be nothing strange in that yesterday's tribesmen whose granddad hunted antelopes on his bare foot wouldn't fully grasp on modern concepts of time, it's understandable, you have to have a deep historical background behind you to achieve that naturally, and for Africa it often means western education, which is somewhat rare in some parts.
Almost forgot, the same dude also claimed that African languages lacked a word for promise or strong committment. The closest they have means something more like "I'll try". So to outsiders they seem to lie a lot, though it's not intentional.
ONCE AGAIN ZULU ARE NOT WEST AFRICAN OR SAHEIAN. what a dumb fricking post
The post is about Africans, and as a side tangent Black Americans, in general. It just primarily uses Zulu examples, because the person he discussed this with in university was a Zulu and they both had a Zulu-English dictionary to compare their notes with.
>The post is about Africans, and as a side tangent Black Americans, in general
african americans come from west africa and the biggest west african languages is Chadic it does not have any of these problems listed
Bullshit the Kikuyu have words for day,tomorrow and what time.
>Ũũ nĩguo Jehova ekuuga: ‘Rũciũ ihinda o ta rĩrĩ kĩhingo-inĩ gĩa* Samaria, gĩthimi kĩmwe gĩa sea* kĩa mũtu mũhinyu gĩkeendagio cekeri* ĩmwe, na ithimi igĩrĩ cia sea cia cairi ikeendagio cekeri ĩmwe.’”
It's not so much as words but concepts and how they are perceived going by what was written in the blog post. So it's not that they can't understand the passing of time, but more along the lines of not understanding what time is; and that such a thing is so deeply ingrained in the European psyche that we struggle to understand how someone can't have an intrinsic understanding of it.
It's a hard thing for me to try and put into simple words, but I think the best way to describe the point it's trying to make is that Africans only live in the moment and are...unaware of the past and future? It's not like they don't care about the past or the future, but they are incapable of dealing with future or past problems until they are physically confronted by it, I think?
Sorry, I wasn't expecting for the first Anon to drop an entire anthropology essay down upon us.
>Africans only live in the moment and are...unaware of the past and future? It's not like they don't care about the past or the future, but they are incapable of dealing with future or past problems
Timbuktu Manuscripts (or Tombouctou Manuscripts) is a blanket term for the large number of historically significant manuscripts that have been preserved for centuries in private households in Timbuktu, a city in northern Mali. The collections include manuscripts about art, medicine, philosophy, and science, as well as copies of the Quran. The number of manuscripts in the collections has been estimated as high as 700,000
poltard alert
>hurr Black folk can’t perceive time
Assuming you aren’t a newbie, the first time you visited PrepHole I bet you didn’t think you’d be posting here in 2023. I know I didn’t
>posting here
Here and PrepHole are the only boards I stay on. Been that way since the first Avatar film
>Been that way since the first Avatar film
what the FRICK does that have to do with ANYTIHNG? ARE YOU SOME SORT OF FILM CRITIC? HUH? WHY?!?
>he wasn't here for Avatar posting
Joseph Savimbi
Based
He was a real homie.
Savimbi was straight up moronic, refused actual political power in favour of constant never ending civil wars.
Truly the /k/est Black to ever live
Is blech the /k/ animu?
Because France has been chimping out and raping Africa so long and through they'd hate them so much they don't care that the alternatives are even worse.
Imaging unironically believing that
Doesn't matter, it matters that the Black folk believe it.
>raping Africa
having uranium mines that employ thousands of people directly or indirectly is bad???
I guess it's true that the Black folk can't use the Uranium to power their own nuclear power plants... you know they ones they don't have.
>Employ
Lol. Lmao even.
yeah no, of course those mines just work by themselves I guess frickign moron.
but hey, maybe they can do it by themselves.. right?
>raping Africa
Mate, have you ever seen a bonafide African? I dare you to go on Tinder right now and set your GPS to Mali and see how long it takes you to find ten +7's.
Because for decades, France help this area of Africa, but also impose some restraints so they can’t fully ape out. And chimps don’t like that. Menwhile, China promise ”free” loan money (without caring where the money actually goes) in exchange for exploitation of their ressources, and Russia promise weapons and training without caring about massacres and torture etc.
But honestly, look who those anti french judgmental africans are so proud of... like the Mali military junta that gained power through another coup. Kek, Africa is fricked, and they like it like that.
Wrong, France never had any meaningful presence in Mali. They did in Mauritania, Senegal, Ivory Cost, and still do to an extent in Chad and Burkina and Niger. Most of the gold mines and other infrastructures are held by Anglo firms.
have a nice day, Nigel
shoulda listened to SSTEP
Well because France has fricking children mining uranium for their powerplants
most uranium France used is from canada, Ukraine and Kazakhstan
Because they want do the macho thing of kicking out European states, whilst then slurping on PMC Europeans. Basically peddling to the people and authority figures to give the illusion that they're a serious country that can tell the big bad Europeans what to do, whilst in reality they're more cucked to foreign entities than before.
Well yes France is still raping west Africa and when you have nobody Russia seems reasonable
How are the French raping Africa exactly?
Take are taking all of Niger's uranium and having children mine it same thing with mali
On top of controlling all of their currency's (CFA frank)
>On top of controlling all of their currency's (CFA frank)
The CFA frank arguably provides good financial stability to these African nations that otherwise would struggle with their own currency, being pegged to the euro gives a sense of security many other African nations would long for. Also provides protection against rampant inflation. I'm not saying France is a saint, they're not, but for the CFA Franc it's not as black and white as you're making it out to be as these country could not support a fiat currency.
Yeah they Gaddafi TIRED to break away from that with a currency back by gold, but oh wait he got topped and now Libya is in civil war
A gold backed currency would have rapidly led to economic irrelevancy as it would hard cap itself against a fiat currency and suffer from a deflationary spiral.
Can you explain this using less smart words?
A gold based economy is growth restricted based on your gold reserves and ability to acquire more. A nation switching to the gold standard would see immediate deflation (money is worth more) and the spike in demand for gold would further increase the value of money. While this seems like a good idea, it has massive negative impacts on consumption, debts, and cost of business.
In hurr-durr terms, money should never be allowed to become a commodity in and of itself. If/when that happens, the bad kind of fricky-fricky ensues.
I mean the current approach of 'print as much money as people will agree is sort-of ok but not too much more than that' isn't exactly ideal either.
I'll be honest I've never looked into that sort of thing in depth. Why would investing in that be more worthwhile than just holding on to your cash unless perhaps the increase in value in the longterm investments outweighs the deflationary 'interest' equivalent of holding on to your cash.
Gold standard is considered bad because the amount of gold in the world is limited and thus you cannot print money forever to allow inflation to 'work'. In and of itself there's nothing wrong with having no/very small amounts of inflation but deflation (currency increasing in value) is bad because people hold on to it instead of investing and spending. In a world where fiat currencies exist and are not bound by any sort of commodity like gold it's also a problem since they are not limited in this sense.
You can argue for other commodities to back a currency that aren't as limited in quantity as gold but they will still have at least a theoretical hard cap.
>deflation (currency increasing in value) is bad because people hold on to it instead of investing and spending
That's the pro-inflation take on it. If you do the actual graphs, a deflation-centric economy often incentivizes longterm investments in capital goods aka advanced technology.
People don't live in long-term macroeconomic trends.
One of those just flew over my house!
Dunning-Kruger moment
I smell kosher trickery
Anon, the Opium War is a direct result of the issues inherent to a specie economy.
a much less smart explanation than
:
1. even when all currency could be exchanged for coinage worth something in metallurgical / commodity value, "bad money drove out good". shittier coins with the same face value as better ones drove the better coins out of circulation, for instance.
this is called gresham's law.
2. modern monetary policies have extended this principle by embracing subjective theory of value. this pov basically involves giving up the idea that the currency itself is a store of value. if people are hoarding fiat to an unusually high degree, rather than using it to transact and invest in shit, the modern system considers this a failure of currency to be intrinsically as worthless as it's intended to be.
3. keeping your currency on a commodity-backed standard chains it to a physically quite limited quantity of something out there in the world. that something – reserves of gold or whatever – obviously can't grow 1:1 with any major economy. this makes a gold-backed currency a deflationary currency, and an economy denominated in that currency a growth-constrained economy relative to other economies.
>currency limited by physical amount of gold
>this will cause its value to deflate
post nose.
>doesn’t know what deflation means
>resorts to low tier ad hominem
imagine my shock
That’s not what deflation means moron
>t.
No he didn't, Gaddafi had tons of crazy schemes that had no manner of working because Gaddafi was a crank.
I know you NWO types are like "GADDAFI WAS ABOUT TO UNITE ALL OF AFRICA THAT IS WHY HATO KILLED HIM!!!!"
No he was a nut and after Chad BTFO he lost a lot of African influence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Man-Made_River
no, Libya was in a civil war, then France helped the rebel, remember ?
there's no Uranium in Mali
And there's hardly any uranium being extracted from Niger these days because it's not profitable.
Australia and Kazakhstan are much more important providers.
The French shill posts this shit weekly. Half the times it's not even countries Wagner operates in. Ironically, France had no problem with Wagner prior to 2022.
Africa wants France gone partly because it failed to curtail ISIS in the first place and partly because everyone in Africa hates France because of its colonialism and neocolonialism.
>How are the French raping Africa exactly?
14 West and Central African countries have their currency issued by and reserves controlled by France. It's called the CFA Franc.
France is also pretty skittish about other countries increasing their influence in West, Central and North Africa, but at this point can do very little about it. There was a French journal a few weeks ago complaining about African countries buying Turkish drones
>14 West and Central African countries have their currency issued by and reserves controlled by France. It's called the CFA Franc.
They're in the CFA Franc zone because outside of it their currencies would be Zimbabwe-tier if not worse.
They seethed pretty hard when Gabon and Togo joined the Commonwealth.
I wonder how mad the Belgians were when Rwanda joined the Commonwealth. Instead of trying to go overboard with anglicizing the country, Kagame shoud have had people learn the French spoken by the one bunch of Francos who gave a frick in 1994. Which would have pissed France (who believe they own the language) and Belgium utterly off.
Kagame's faction were Anglophone and backed by the United States. He literally dropped out of the Army War College to pull his invasion off.
Also, Kagame and his faction lived in Uganda and Tanzania before the war.
I know that. I've read that paratrooper thread pic and the book it's based on AND Gen. Dallaire's book (I consider Dancing in the glory of monsters an unofficial sequel to Shake hands with the devil). So I can see why Kagame went that way.
>14 West and Central African countries have their currency issued by and reserves controlled by France. It's called the CFA Franc.
Thinking this is an issue is Tankie-tier stupidity
The CFA is controlled by the african nations, not France. Half of their foreign currency reserves was sent to an account in France, and France paid them dividents on it every year. In exchange, France provides cover of all their trades in case they don’t have enougth of a specific foreign currency (like usd or yuan) because France has just much more reserves.
This obligation was removed a few years ago, and they are now free to move all their currency reserves to the swiss accounts of their ministers... yet France keep on providing the security on their trades.
The claims on the CFA are voluntarily untrue, and aimed at the ignorant that can’t bother even looking it up.
By the way, the total amount of money on that account in the French Treasure accumulated since 1945... is less than the amount of money coming from France towards those 14 nations in a single year.
-The CFA : see
-the French are wary of other country expanding their influence because if those countries are fricking up the place even more, more and more of those useless frickers will try to emigrate in France, and they don't want that
But it isn't reasonable, it's superficial actions that do nothing. Africans seem to think they should be spared geopolitical realities, when really a serious country or an experienced country learned long ago in this world you become better diplomats and either stay neutral(requires good statecraft) or align yourself to one side. Problem with these African nations is they make short-sighted decisions with them trying rather pathetically to play both sides, all this leaves them worse off.
Also this anon
summed it up well, a lot of African leaders like it this way because it lines their own pockets. This status quo is good for them, and they'll only slightly change it when it suits them, letting in Wagner suits them.
The elites of African countries aren’t the clinically moronic 60-IQs of the population; they’re high-IQs from wealthy and powerful family lineages. What that means is that they’re all about corruption. Using the country as a resource export business to be rich and maintain the access to wealth and security. The people have to be managed and minimally placated but being low-IQ they can’t organize politically in a meaningful way so the elites always get their way.
The elites won’t turn away Western aid, but, ultimately, they’d rather line their pockets. ISIS doesn’t really effect them.
they made their bed, time to get fricked in it.
Don't forget the massacres of the locals that Ruskies then carry out.
To answer your qeuestion - because they're actual malnourished morons and their worldview is based on what their (grand)parents told them about their youth or whatever the current junta leader tells them
CIA couldn't cope. Had to ape out, many of such cases.
50 cents!
>Why do africans keep chimping out and kicking out France
Because France does nothing for them
Serious answer - the insurgency in Mali started out as a secessionist affair which then got taken over by ISIS. When that happened, the French came and cleaned house as far as they could, using conventional means and stuck around doing COIN shit. Then Mali had two consecutive coups and the latest junta got pissed, when the French started complaining about human rights abuses and refused to take part in atrocities against the secessionists
Paul Kagame is an unironic genius
Getting on with age and he still neither has a successor if he wants the country to stay a dictatorship, nor is he taking steps to prepare it for a transition to democracy.
That’s my main criticism of him but other than that he made Rwanda from a failed lawless state to essentially the safest country in Africa.
Absolutely, but it would be a damn shame to let that go to waste.
>muh democracy
NTA but I don't necessarily think Rwanda needs democracy (I don't think a country where people were hacking their neighbors with machetes only 30 years ago is ready for democracy). But it is a problem if he hasn't picked a successor.
If you don't have a successor ready to go it's the only way to avoid a civil war. For example: what do you think's going to happen in Russia once Putin's gone?
Considering how much France still butt fricks them it’s not surprising
why are russians so bad at fighting?
Paternalistic imperialism is still imperialism if things don't really get better in decades.
The citizens like NATO and France. The governments are corrupt shitholes. Unironically, if you ever meet a farmer there they are some hardworking people with some even spending night learning to read and write better.
THEY WUZ COLONIZERS!!
The Ghanian president and Thomas Sowell.
I honestly think most people memory hole Ghana existing because it is so stable and uncontroversial, it still amazes me how much money the US & US businesses spend on central Asia and Europe, but not West Africa, which has a few decent targets for investment & political reform - Morocco, Ghana, the Namibia+Botswana merger long term (Khoisan union), Angola, Liberia if they ever stop being gay, etc.
They don't really want a solution to the African crisis. If they did, they would have, like you said, invested in West African more, but that would mean less cheap immigrants for Europe.
>Why do africans keep chimping out and kicking out France
Pas mon problème.
It's pretty common with African blacks, but much rarer with American ones.
the merchants bought the stock from tribals who of course sold them their most undesired and unwanted. That got exported to the americas. On top of it all western africans like bantus which are stone age functionally and never exposed to civilization like east africans before the big euro expansions
>western africans like bantus
West africans aren't bantu
>which are stone age functionally and never exposed to civilization
West africans had metal works and farming.
What a dumb fricking post holy shit.
France is losing in Africa because the French have stopped understanding how the world, and Africa, works.
Until the 1980s, all the civil servants and diplomats that worked in what was called the "cooperation" in positive terms (or "Francafrique" in less positive ones) had a traditional education about the world, where they learned about the various cultures, ethnic groups, etc.
So they understood that Africa is a country that works on a tribal basis, where ethnicity trumps everything else. Understanding that, they identified the strong ethnic groups and backed them. This created relatively stable regimes, with whom they could trade, etc.
Since the 1980s, the French education system has started brainwashing kids that "all human beings are strictly equal and equivalent", and that ethnic groups don't exist, populations don't exist, etc. This was the terminal conclusion of French republican idealism: there are no ethnic groups, just humans, and anyone can become French by stepping foot on France.
The problem with that thinking is they stopped understanding Africa. At the same time, African tribes started turning away from the now collapsed Soviet union, and towards Arab countries, to fund the militias used to wage the wars they have been waging for thousands of years (to control various fertile lands for their crops if they are sedentary subsistence farmers, or for their cattle if they are pastoralist nomads).
So they nominally adopted Islam. But it's literally just a way for them to get weapons and funding. They still believe all their primitive and superstitious African beliefs, but just like they adopted communism when the soviet union was powerful, they now adopt Islam.
Now, France has stopped understanding tribes, ethnic groups, etc. and at the same time it is fighting "Islamic terrorism". Now, *ALL* those tribes are Islamic. So what happens then? France starts killing the leaders of all those groups, fairly effectively.
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but they can't secure alliances with anyone. So they completely lose their grip over Africa.
That's where Russia enters the picture. Russian diplomats have not been brainwashed by modern French Republican universalism. They still understand what an ethnic group is, what a tribe is.
So they literally do what France used to do: they identify the strong leaders of the strong groups, and they back them.
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Good posts. This is also one of the major weaknesses of the “international system”, so much emphasis is placed on the optics of only recognizing “real” governments, and only negotiating with those governments (or privileging them heavily over other actors in the same territory), that diplomats completely lose sight of the reality on the ground.
Bonsoir Bernard Lugan, I wasn't aware that you were posting on PrepHole
(By the way, you are right at 200%)
The issue here is the fact that a country that prides itself in civic republican nationalism (France), keep-on-living as you were at home but with healthcare and no guns multiculturalism (Canada) or you'd better enjoy NASCAR, fast food, football and cheap beer by the second generation or else multiculturalism (USA) would look bad from the PoV of their own population if they promote ethnic nationalism somewhere else while repressing it within their borders.
>Africa is a country
Because Wagner doesn't ask them to do annoying things like "hold fair elections" or enforce "human rights" and they won't refuse to attack someplace because of the "women and children". Wagner protects the mines and the wells and keeps your personal income flowing.
France is a nation, not a business.
Because the French are honestly fricking horrible to deal with. Even cursory research into Africa conflicts will show just how fricking terrible the French are.
I honestly don't even know where to begin on describing France's malice and perfidy in Africa in the second half of the 20th century and throughout the 21st. It hits every note from bombing civilians, to rape of civilians, to blatant exploitation of resources, to assassinating any and all people who think of their own country as a country rather than as a French protectorate.
I guess to start, watch this,
https://pluto.tv/en/search/details/movies/the-ambassador-1-1
and read this,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mali_wedding_airstrike
Also let's not forget that this entire mess was STARTED BY FRANCE when they pushed to destroy the Libyan nation because Gaddafi was going to implement a Gold Dinar as pan-African currency, which would devalue the Franc, and DARE to give Africa economic independence.
>Gold Dinar as pan-African currency
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand dropped
https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/6528
France is an obnoxious country still furious they aren't important anymore. That's why the EU keeps english as the language for politics despite only Ireland still speaking it in the EU, because otherwise the french would push their language.
They also got pissed at the US sub deal despite selling under teh table shit to the russians under sanction
>France is an obnoxious country still furious they aren't important anymore.
Another mind where we live rent free
>Un autre esprit chez lequel on vit sans payer de loyer.
Join the eternal anglos we live rent free pretty much everywhere.
Everytime some thirdy has anything bad happen to them they instantly scream at us for some reason.
That said you live rent free in the minds of africans and euros.
Despite their long standing rivalry, France and the UK are bizarrely similar. It's a shame they don't cooperate more foten, whenever that happens it oftten delivers good shit.
>France is an obnoxious country still furious they aren't important anymore.
Reminder that wagner lost over 600 troops last time they tried to start shit with a western military. Spamming won’t make this become a reality vatBlack person.
The training pics were always funny because most Malians look like malnourished manlets then some 7' tall gigaBlack person appears occasionally. Why did we give these people the gift of the rifle rather than letting them club each other like the good days?
>why are Black folk stupid?
>MINUSMA isn't perfect
>because their mandate actually never got adapted to proactively hunting and eliminating rebels and terrorists themselves
>all thats left for them is to do defensive work, sit in their base and deny the occasional spook shit operation that has to take place because the domestic Malian troops literally can or do not DO shit
>so yeah, MINUSMA as a mission has become fairly ineffective over the years because the situation in mali changed while their mandate did not
>"WAAH THEY'RE NOT PERFECT, LET'S KICK THEM OUT"
>who should replace them?
"HOW ABOUT SOME EX CONVICTS WHO RAPE THEIR OWN RECRUITS?!"
>sounds like a bad idea
>*russian made leather case full of diamonds and dollar bills appears*
>meh doesnt sound like such a bad idea after all
Because the French actually holds them to standards like "No war crime-ing the locals". Wagner has no such preclusions, and will in fact happily commit some for them.
Sometimes thats the only way to pacify a place. I wonder how well the US wouldve fared in Iraq and Afghanistan if theyd never been shackled by these ideals. One of the reasons Malaya was so successful was the massive media blackout and the fact it was an "emergency" not a war meant none of the commies were counted as POWs so didnt fall under the Geneva convention.
Well evidently it isn't fricking working in Africa.
do you really need a reason for kicking out the french?
I hope France, Europe, the US and whoever from the Free World, just let them deal with their bullshit. They chose, they wanted Russian wiener, now they have to assume the consequences. Good riddance.
Can't wait until Chink's wiener buttfrick them down the line.
>b-but Russia and China can't be allowed to get a stronghold on Africa and its resources
Yes, yes we should let them go. We should let them wast time, money and resources on that shithole of a continent that will FOREVER stay a shithole of a content. Mankind will be in the Alpha Centauri system that they still won't have figured out agriculture.
>implying mankind will reach space travel
The mass human tidal wave from shithole countries will drag the civilised world down
Unless we start just agreeing with their Anti-Western propaganda and funnel all of them into Russia and China instead. That sounds like it could be a lot of fun.