Why are Vinegar and Baking soda always treated like household panacea? You always see it recommended from polishing things, removing limescale to unclogging drains. It's all bullshit, is it just because it becomes bubbly when mixed?
Why are Vinegar and Baking soda always treated like household panacea?
I always figured it's bullshit and people just get impressed by the bubbles like kids that think everything "science" involves green liquids in flasks. By themselves they're both decent cleaning chemicals, but when mixed they yield sodium acetate which isn't particularly useful.
this it actually cancels itself out, vinegar is a acid and soda a base.
vinegar is the cleanest acid
bleach is the cleanest base
baking soda is the cleanest abrasive/sponge
IPA is the cleanest solvent
soap is the cleanest oil/surfactant
>bleach is a base
Lol wut anon
Bleach is a basic or alkaline chemical with an extremely high pH of about 13.
Wow you are right. How could I have gone all my life thinking that bleach was an acid?
Too be fair, a strong base and strong acid will dissolve your skin all the same. I'm trying to figure out you forgot high school chemistry?
Maybe I associated bleach with hydrochloric acid...
thirdies will even call lye an acid, maybe you just chimed in on the wrong conversation
when bleach decomposes while cleaning it will form hypochlorous acid and hydrochloric acid. the more acid form the more chlorine is released by the bleach and the more acid is created. this is why comercial bleaches are mixed with a base like sodium hydroxide or sodium carbonate.
so the raw blech its not an acid but not a real base either.
Same here, didn't find out till I was 32.
it's not just a base, it's a strong one at that.
>lemon 2
>can easily enjoy them
>stomach acid 1
>will kill you
It's amazing how the acid scale is all edible up until the very end while base gets deadly fast.
Log scale
>harsh poisonous chemicals
>common cooking items
It is a real mystery.
I know you're not supposed to mix bleach and ammonia or you'll gas yourself and die, but what if I mix bleach and white vinegar? Will they do anything cool? Will I gas myself?
don't mix bleach with anything moron
mixing bleach with sodium carbonate(washing soda) makes it actually saver it decreases the amount of free chlorine gas leving the bleach.
(comercial bleach often contains some soda)
if I remember my chemistry right, it will produce heat and chlorine gas
so I wouldn't recommend it
>is it just because it becomes bubbly when mixed?
Probably.
I was trying to clean burnt-on stains off my glass cooktop stove, and "use baking soda and vinegar" was recommended.
And it works! Way better than just soap and a scotchbrite sponge.
BUT
Then I tried baking soda alone (with a little water) ... and that also works, just as well!
The vinegar was totally unnecessary, and probably recommended just because of the bubbles, I guess ... the real workhorse is the baking soda.
From personal experience in rust removal:
- Sandpaper + Vinegar with salt is one of the fastest ways to remove rust actively
- Vinegar bath overnight is the best passive approach
-Baking Soda + Vinegar provides a good compromise, removing rust close to wd-40 every 20 mins to 30 mins
I got mad about this the other day when I realized the cleaning products my wife buys are either just watered down bleach or ammonia with color and fragrance added.
Noooo you can't reveal my proprietary formula, i added 0.2% citric acid and other industrial waste to be different from the rest.
the acid seeps into stuck on grime, when it makes contact with baking soda, the gas formed tends to break apart surface level dirt.
if that doesn't break it apart without work, the baking soda is abrasive and you just scrub over top of to clean off what's left.
hydrogen peroxide works the same way to clean wounds. it actually is pretty bad and using it is more likely to cause scaring. but it will take dirt and debris and lift it from inside the wound to the surface so you can clean it better.
this is at least the way I have used and understood these products.
>hydrogen peroxide
is an oxidizing agent releasing free oxygen which is highly reactivate, tearing electrons so violently from cells it kills them
yes.
but it beats infection and death I suppose.
if vinegar and baking soda work ina similar way, it could violently loosen dirt.
>hydrogen peroxide works the same way to clean wounds. it actually is pretty bad and using it is more likely to cause scaring
I have soke severe scaring on my right knee frlm when I was like 6 years old.
Fell on a rock and cut it open, my mom washed it with H2O2 every day for a few weeks until FINALLY asking a doctor why it wouldn't heal and he told her that she shouldn't do that and should've gotten me stitches on a woundthat large.
Whenever discussion about the scar on my knee comes up (pool party) she tells everyone my dad did it.
To be fair it does do a pretty good job of disinfecting an open injury, and if you're in an area where the water supply is shit you'd probably be better off having a scar than having to amputate.
That said, there are much better ways to go about doing it these days.
But why is poo dirty?
just like when you mop a floor, the water gets dirty and you need to dump it.
you too need to dump all the stuff you don't need before your body overfills, like if the bucket never got dumped.
poo is dirty because your body has decided it's already the dump of another human (water is already dirty), so your brain wants clean water and your butt produces dirty water.
some people's bodies don't have this rejection, some buckets are so gross they love dirty water and to make water dirtier.
we call them Indians.
none of this applies to women. women don't poo.
neither does Kim Jon Ill, who is still alive.
I clean my kitchen sink with white vinegar. Effective and zero chemicals to worry about.
>zero chemicals
what about acetic acid?
You know he meant cleaning product chemicals you obtuse homosexual.
care to explain the difference, if it's so obvious?
define 'cleaning product chemical' and how acetic acid doesn't qualify.
note: i'm currently in possession of multiple bottles of cleaning vinegar, active ingredient: acetic acid.
>Why are Vinegar and Baking soda always treated like household panacea? You always see it recommended from polishing things, removing limescale to unclogging drains. It's all bullshit, is it just because it becomes bubbly when mixed?
Don't mixx the two or they will become useless
Mixxing them will make sodiumacetate which is useless for cleaning
Use one at a time
It is actually vinegar, baking soda and toothpaste
"Clean it with vinegar" is shit redditor advice, it's too weak to do anything but leave your home and belongings smelling like vinegar. Sometimes they'll add a bonus bit of shit reddit advice and propose that you put lemon juice in the vinegar to prevent it from smelling, which of course does not at all.
you should update with the new neckbeard version
I think the proportion is a bit off... I don't use the app enough to do what I want when I want.
Independently they actually work great as a cleaner for certain things, just don't trust anyone who tells you to mix themfirst.
citríc acid does the same as vinegar without the unbearable stench
my water is really hard, its useful because its dirt cheap and doesnt attack seals or plastic
Why would you mix them? they're very useful for very different things. You don't need to buy brand name corporate chemicals for cleaning your house lmao
vinegar, baking soda, bleach, warm water, and elbow grease will clean 99% of things no problem, and don't give you cancer or frick with sperm/eggs
It's simple.
You dissolve the baking soda in water and spray it on caked on dirt or grime like in your oven.
Wait a few minutes for it to soak in then spray it with the vinegar.
The reaction causes bubbles which break up the grime.
>The reaction causes bubbles which break up the grime.
scrubbing bubbles shill pls lv