Why are maces never the hero's weapon? Like swords, they're also fancy, have no other use outside of combat, and not something peasants will ever have.
Why are maces never the hero's weapon?
Why are maces never the hero's weapon? Like swords, they're also fancy, have no other use outside of combat, and not something peasants will ever have.
it probably comes across as kind of crude and barbaric
i mean a mace is basically just a fancy club right?
Maces have been a symbol of rank and nobility since the bronze age. Ever heard of a scepter before?
Any records of a regent or someone else bonking someone's head in with a scepter?
Probably back in medieval ages.
While Cross-Sword is symbol of religion, appointment by god, and right to personal agency, Scepter or Mace is symbol of Royalty, command and rulership. Has been since Egyptian times. Big fancy pointing stick you can wack a motherfricker with real hard.
Some are shaped like the earth or world is on a stick, others have a world and a crown. Shit is cool as balls, and by tradition, are a deeply religious and sacred instrument. A symbol of appointment to power over all by God.
Just imagine how utterly patriotic you'd feel, beating a man to death with one of the royal scepters.
The first pharoah, Narmer is depicted with a mace, about to royally stove someone bonce in
>The queen is unable to lift the scepter
>So just some random guy does it instead
i feel like this cheapens it and he's not a real knight now.
Nobody in the modern age is a “real” knight. Knights were basically the mafia lieutenants of their day, you were expected to know how to run a local protection racket, how to rub shoulders with the right folk, and when necessary, how to kill.
He's not being knighted and that thing's fricking heavy.
If you count hammers there's thor and sigmar
stronk bonk is literally god tier
they were pretty mid, people meme about how they were good for armored opponents, but they were almost exclusively used by people in armor, and optimized for killing people with none
if you fight against a guy in armor using only a mace, you're just fricked unless you can land a blow to side of the head since metal disperses force easily
but spears, now thats an underappreciated knightly weapon
talking out of my ass here but after watching a longbow/crossbow vs plate armor test where the arrows managed to frick up and dent the joints on some pieces of armor, I think that a mace would be quite effective towards the limbs even if you can't manage to cause significant harm to the body outside of the head
just denting armor doesnt really mean that much in the end, you have a layer of steel, chainmail, and cloth between you and the dent so any hit to the limb will be dispersed across the whole limb
and i can say this with evidence, if you've ever heard of buhurt you'd know just how extreme it can get, i've seen videos of people in armor getting their helmets dented while fighting because they got hit so hard, and while it made them a bit dizzy or it might bruise if it hit somewhere bony like the collar bone, it was very far from doing anything more than a minor injury
pic rel is a good example, despite being hit so hard that his helmet got dented at some point, he talked on facebook about how he was trying to buy his fricking kids some buhurt armor
There's actually a medieval story of William the Marshall getting hit on the helmet so much that he needed a blacksmith to get the damn thing off. By all accounts he won that tourney.
Morning star Chads rise up, our time is now. Frick the mace homosexuals and Speer queers. Break their bones AND peirce their flesh.
*gets stuck in a shield*
*twist handle prying spikes out*
>NGMI Speer queer
ok mall ninja
>twist handle prying spikes out
I guess it depends on how strong are your wrists and how short are the spikes
>Why are maces never the hero's weapon? Like swords, they're also fancy, have no other use outside of combat, and not something peasants will ever have.
Symbols of authority held traditionally by military leaders in eastern Europe(hetmen) and kings in western Europe(monarchs royal mace) you mean?
Hercules though.
Swords are just cool. You wouldn’t get it.
Change in tastes, I suppose.
Especially these last 600 years or so?
>Ram headed mace
Fereydun and Rostam bonked a lot of demons and villains with it.
Blame the French. During the medieval period French nobility developed a bias for blade weaponry as they saw it as the ideal and most honorable weapon a warrior like a knight could use. This coupled with swords being used by a large amount of institutional symbols and artwork of the time only cultivated its romantical image further. But in many battles they would end up going up against armoured opponents and get their shit kicked in when they realise people like the English didn't give a frick about idealistic warrior hood and used maces along with warhammers to great effect. This is not to say they were useless, the french used alot of peasant militias that usually had little to no armour so a sword was the perfect answer to their style of warfare at the time. But again they became so ingrained with their use that using anything esle seemed less prestigious. Hundreds of years later the french idea of chivalry and the knight art has been preserved as reference for the period and become synonymous with combat of antiquity
Probably because if you wanted a hero with a blunt weapon that is noble you use a hammer rather then a club because it’s more recognized by the plebs and against armor was more effective.
You can be more creative in making new hammer designs.
If you want a barbaric designed hero/theme ditch the mace and go full club like Hercules.
It’s all about leaning In the theme of the main character and the mace fits support/ the wall
>that execute where he literally just crushes you by stepping on your corpse
What a guy that Shugoki
Never?
>who is Robert baratheon
>Robert Baratheon
>Heroic
Targ fricking shit
Robert was just the blunt object the Lannisters used to kick the Targarians out.
>Robert was just the blunt object the Lannisters used to kick the Targarians out.
>Targarians
This isn't even true in bastardized show lore
>tfw ywn be a loving husband for Shireen
They come off as unskilled. You never worry about edge alignment or precision, you just swing and swing hard. It's hard to present yourself as an underdog when your weapon demands you be both wealthy and physically powerful.
Hammers are just better.
Because bludgeoning implements are inherently crude and inelegant. Antithetical to heroism.
>posts Indian/Iranian maces
>who is Bhima
>who is Rostam
As a plus, there is Hercules with his club. Yeah I know its not a mace, but it is a bonking weapon too.
I do admit that swords are the more mainstream hero weapon tho
I'm thinking about building something like number 3 or 4. I think those kind of maces would be great to break bones when you don't want to kill your enemy.
Its been a while, but didn't one of the Redwall badger lords use a mace?
Sunflash the Mace, made from an ironwood branch he found while escaping from his searat captors, as I recall. Bella of Redwall, the blind, retired Badger Lady who lived in Redwall Abbey after she abdicated rule of Salamandastron, used a rolling pin as a mace until the Red Mist came over her and she slaughtered her foes with her teeth and claws until she bled out from innumerable wounds during one of the vermin invasions of the abbey.
>Like swords, they're also fancy, have no other use outside of combat, and not something peasants will ever have.
Puh-leze! The commoners of Sweden used to have war hammers for self-defense.
>That mace + axe combo
Now that's clever
Jan Zizka, the Czech equivalent of George Washington or William Wallace, is almost always depicted with a mace for cracking German skulls.
>Sword or mace?
>Why not both? There are many kinds of elves to kill.