Why am I seeing less mi-28 action in Ukraine? Most close air support footage Russians post are from ka-52
Why am I seeing less mi-28 action in Ukraine? Most close air support footage Russians post are from ka-52
Why am I seeing less mi-28 action in Ukraine? Most close air support footage Russians post are from ka-52
because despite being 40 years in development it's still not actually finished and suffers from teething reliability problems.
If I remember correctly it was taken into service only recently because of corruption. Even in USSR, it lost the contest to Ka50.
do they operate any ka50s anymore?
ka-50 never got any serial production
Probably no, they were used in the Chechen war as a result of which they came to the conclusion that despite the electronics, one pilot does not cope with the tasks. So after that Ka-52 was introduced. There was news about 3 assembled helicopters from soviet era frames in 2009 but I doubt they are used somewhere besides exhibitions
afaik they got sold to some african shitholes, those poor poor ka-50's deserved better and yes I used to play the shit out of DCS black shark
>they got sold to some african shitholes
no they didnt
>one pilot does not cope
🙂
They were trying to sell Ka-52 to the Chinese, so needed to prove its worth
Except that China already has not one, but two attack helicopter I don't see the need for Ka-52
hmmm, I guess the aligator has better defensive measures and since they are trying to avoid casualties they send in the KA-52's ? even though they have them fewer in numbers and I they are more expensive...
Both have President-S countermeasures system but the Ka-52 includes DIRCM modules so it is indeed probably better protected
Did anybody else noticed that in every video Ka-52 is always flying first and then Mi-28, also you never see pairs of Mi-28 flying sorties. I wonder what is the reason behind this.
ka-50 had a superior electronic system to the mi-28 in the 80s, mi-24 was mainly conversion of mi-24 to an attack helicopter. During the Chechen wars ka-50 also flew first before mi-24
That's pretty standard. Apache flys with other helicopters as an escort
Number of mi 28 + ka 50/52: ~ 250
combat status: LOL
number of AH64 + AH 1: 3100+
combat status: proven
lmfao, why does anyone fall for MIC fear mongering??
Part of that fear mongering is to stop departments from becoming complacent, since if the enemy has a bajillion Armatas and SU whatevers to throw away then you better start weaponizing the weather itself or some other crazy shit. Its a humility the likes of which Russia and China will never learn.
>lmfao, why does anyone fall for MIC fear mongering??
Literally nobody did and everybody on this board knew that if Russia tried shit they would get their fricking shit stomped. The only problem was that the same morons that are spamming the board now were also spamming the board about the US and NATO "having forgotten" how to fight a regular war.
All of it is MIC bullshitting to drive up sales to counter Russian WunderWaffe of which not more than a dozen will ever be built, let alone be fielded.
> Russians claim that they have this new crazy military technology that they put into mass production.
> U.S. MIC freaks out.
> Congress pours millions into the Pentagon and the CIA to build something that can counter it.
> One year later Lockmart/Raytheon officially reveal the U.S. Deathmachine SNEED System 1000, already revealed to be mass production and is being sold to the U.S.A.F. for one morbillion dollars.
> Russia gets into an actual war.
> Turns out the ‘based and trad’ military technology that Russia revealed is either ineffective or completely nonexistent and Russia is sending in their boys with weapon technology from the 70s.
> TFW the U.S. leaped two decades ahead of Russia in terms of military technology over nothing.
>U.S. leaped two decades ahead of Russia
It's not just military technology anon
Still can't into affordable housing for people from this country
I literally see complexes like these cropping up all over my state you're such a moronic moron. You've never lived in China and youtube videos are not an accurate depiction. You're so pathetic you little dicked /misc/ incel
Not that anon, but i spend 6 months on bussiness there. The thing that really stands out is all the unfinished construction complexes in the middle of nowehere. The chink guy who we had assigned to us, explained that that's how everyone invests their money - pre-pay for a concrete cubicle in some northern province shithole and wait for the price to go up. They don't even finish those things - no electricity, water, no nothing.And now that the bubble is bursting alot bugmen are gonna kiss their retirement fund goodbye.
Another thing i noticed is the highways - we had to regularly drive north to the mill and was able to wtiness it's consctruction. Building is quite fast, but not even a month in and the asphalt begins to spill out under the weight of the cars.
Funny you should say that, considering chink housing bubble popped so hard Xinnie the Pooh is sending tanks on the streets to force people to pay their mortgages
Yeah Russia is losing war in Ukraine and Chi-nah economy is collapsing...
>Yeah Russia is losing war
Yes.
>Chi-nah economy is collapsing
Yes.
Glad to see we're on the same page.
The pentagon has always been the best propaganda machine for the Russians.
Many such cases. Sad!
>> TFW the U.S. leaped two decades ahead of Russia in terms of military technology over nothing.
it has happened like 50 times now, specially during the cold war
Never understand these US axis countries and their hot air. It would've been much better if they'd just shut the frick up and do their R&D in secret or something. I mean they're doing this out of propaganda right? why not just put soldiers doing some backflip instead of parading your secret weapons and shit.
Their propaganda is meant to scare people out of attacking them, western propaganda is pretending to be dumb weak trannies to trick foreigners into giving us a casus belli so we can steal their stuff
>"Appear strong when you are weak"
Problem is they don't realize all the peawienering just makes them appear weaker.
>F-15
>Bradley
>Abrams
>V-22
>B1-B
>HIMARS
>C-RAM
Many such cases
>>V-22
What Soviet plane spooked America into developing the Osprey?
VDV's death count.
Anti ship missiles did that. Shore based missiles would be able to hit amphibs deploying landing craft, and increases in range would mean even using traditional helicopters to land troops would be difficult. So the V-22s would allow the amphibious force to launch troops outside the range of the anti-ship missiles.
I thought the failed mission to save US hostages in Iran was what spurred its development
That started it, but the anti ship missiles was the Marines justification for it in their doctrine.
Imagine the stuff we're not even aware of from either side. If the CIA got wind of a Russian space laser program in the '90s it probably means the US currently has cloaked orbital proton beam satellites.
and thats somehow a good thing?
it's a fun thing, for good or ill
It's better to have it and not need it. We'll probably find out about the GDI Ion Cannon over Asia when China decides to pop off rounds into Guam or Taiwan and we decide to replicate a Warhammer 40k/Star Wars orbital bombardment and turn a Chinese missile silo to molten glass
no I am specifically talking about weather its a good thing the US has it
Said Russian laser program would also turn out to be a couple of guys in a bureau with a laser pointer, a tennis ball, and a desire for ten million rubles.
>He doesn't know about the relativistic plasma rail cannon the US Air Force prototyped in the 90's (it officially no longer exists and no further information about it is known to the public)
once Russia falls and balkanizes, switch attention to China and repeat
Mi-28 engines were literally made in ukraine lmao
Also if they are like the Mi-35 they have problems with severe and inconsistent vibration that makes guided munitions hard to use, the Ka-52 doesn't have the same problem
>Also if they are like the Mi-35 they have problems with severe and inconsistent vibration that makes guided munitions hard to use, the Ka-52 doesn't have the same problem
Uhhhhhhhhhh
Shake Whatcha Oligarch Gave Ya'
turns out
is right, they don’t have the same problem - it’s worse
What causes this? Blades out of track? Shouldn’t contra-rotating blades be inherently smooth since there’s no torque effect? How the frick is it rattling itself apart?
Some people said that's because of blades but IDK what happened with them, maybe they are worn out, or maybe were replaced with a set that causes vibration or their balancing is so complex that it cannot be carried out outside the factory... This vibration was noticeable on several vehicles.
PTSD
Shit design
the manufacturing is even more shit
Battle of the design bureaus. Kamov vs Mil and who had more political clout.
Idk but the Ka-52 is fine. That clip of the IRCCM working and jamming a MANPADS was badass
Bc Blackshark is the better option I imagine.
I just want them to stop their moronic MLRS play-pretend with no impacts ever being shown. don't care which airframe they send to die
I really thought Mi28 would be slaughtering anything that moves during night time but they are just lobing unguided rockets in parabolic trajectories. It's fricking sad and I feel like I've been cheated. Stupid russians.
The MANPAD struggle is real.
No helicopter can fly in the face of even rudimentary air defenses. That's why Apaches etc. were all designed to lob missiles from behind line of sight by peeking over them with their radars or receiving targeting information from other platforms.
Well at least they could fricking do that
I'll give you unguided rocket pods lobbed in ballistic arc in general direction of the enemy. Best I can do.
I live in Ukraine and saw two Mi-24s being transported.
mi-28 > apache
it has extra space to carry one person.
But does it have T-I-G-E-R-S?
>be M-28 mechanic with an alcohol problem like most of your fellow russians
>work on the tail section in the crew/electronics compartment while chugging a bottle of vodka like its a pacifier
>black out
>wake up in a wreck 400 kilometers away from your base in russia
>walk it off because being in an ethanolic coma relaxes your muscles and keeps you from getting your bones broken
>liver and heart are safe because of scar tissue due to alcoholism
>stand around the wreck because you are confused as frick
>a bunch of hohols come near you with empty starstreak tubes
>they are also confused as frick because the pilots are canned soup
the nose is radioactive?
its a laser warning symbol.
The triangle on the gunner's sight is a laser warning triangle.
On the nose above the pilot's sight ball there's a radiation trefoil. It'll be because the pointy "rate nose" is the RF antenna for guiding Ataka missiles
Remember how Russia kept parking Mi-28s on the same airfield over and over again?